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From: "rides2far@..." <rides2far@...>
Date: Thu Jul 2, 2009 3:13 pm
Subject: scales for human

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>>>>I'm seriously contemplating bringing along a little portable scale to weigh

myself at the vet checks at Tevis to keep an eye on my hydration.  I



If you're going to take it seriously, experiment some with putting it on uneven

surfaces, grass, vs. packed *even* dirt, concrete etc. Even where you stand on

the scale makes a difference. As  ride manager I used to bring a piece of

plywood to put the scales on but it still makes a difference if it's not level.



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I went on the western state 100 run website and read their reccomendations for runners document last night.� It's chock full of WONDERFUL information, most of which would easily transfer over to taking care of yourself during the Tevis.� I highly reccomend everyone head on over there and take a peek.

�

I'm seriously contemplating bringing along a little portable scale to weigh myself at the vet checks at Tevis to keep an eye on my hydration.� I definately got behind the curve at last week's preride.� When I got home I weighed myself and it showed I had lost 5-6 pounds over the weekend.� ~4% of my body weight.� Not bloody likely.� I think it would be a useful tool to see if I'm doing a good job taking care of myself.

�

Melinda

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Lucy Chaplin Trumbull <elsietee@foothill.net> wrote:

Tevis' "sister" race, the Western States 100 Run was last weekend.

Anita Ortiz won the women's part of the WS100 - coming in 9th
overall. It was her first 100!!

This is a short excerpt from an interview with her - and much of what
she says carries over to 100 mile rides:

What are your top 5 pieces of advice to someone trying their first ultra race?�
�
1)� know what you can eat and drink and practice it� 2) Have an eating/drinking plan (how much of what, when) set up before the race� 3)� Eat and drink early even if you don't think you need it.�� 4)� never breathe hard in the early miles�� 5) Love your crew and they will love you back
�
Anything you want to add?�
�
Maybe that my success was due in a large part to my my crew and pacers. One of my crew/pacers was a dietician, Katie Mazzia. She was so great keeping my calorie and electrolyte intake correct. She mapped out every 30 minutes for me--what to eat and how much of it. The success of the race is feeling good. That requires training and fueling.� I did the training and she made sure I was fueled for maximum success. I am always telling people: "Everyone needs a Katie." I COULD NOT HAVE WON WESTERN WITHOUT KATIE'S EXPERTISE.

(the rest of the interview is at:
http://www.examiner.com/x-9750-Denver-Trail-Running-Examiner~y2009m7d1-QA-with-Western-States-100-winner-Anita-Ortiz )

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From: Sharon Levasseur <sharon1359@...>
Date: Thu Jul 2, 2009 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: scales for human

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Get one with as many sensors as you can, too, and that will help with

the unevenness problem.  My bathroom scale has a sensor at each

corner, but I think you can find them with up to 10 sensors if you look.

-Sharon





Quoting "rides2far@..." <rides2far@...>:



>>>>> I'm seriously contemplating bringing along a little portable

>>>>> scale to weigh myself at the vet checks at Tevis to keep an eye

>>>>> on my hydration.  I

>

> If you're going to take it seriously, experiment some with putting

> it on uneven surfaces, grass, vs. packed *even* dirt, concrete etc.

> Even where you stand on the scale makes a difference. As  ride

> manager I used to bring a piece of plywood to put the scales on but

> it still makes a difference if it's not level.

>

> Angie McGhee

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From: "rides2far@..." <rides2far@...>
Date: Thu Jul 2, 2009 4:20 pm
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Get one with as many sensors as you can, too, and that will help with
the unevenness problem. My bathroom scale has a sensor at each
corner, but I think you can find them with up to 10 sensors if you look.
-Sharon

Quoting "rides2far@juno.com" <rides2far@juno.com>:

>>>>> I'm seriously contemplating bringing along a little portable
>>>>> scale to weigh myself at the vet checks at Tevis to keep an eye
>>>>> on my hydration. I
>
> If you're going to take it seriously, experiment some with putting
> it on uneven surfaces, grass, vs. packed *even* dirt, concrete etc.
> Even where you stand on the scale makes a difference. As ride
> manager I used to bring a piece of plywood to put the scales on but
> it still makes a difference if it's not level.
>
> Angie McGhee
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From: "Beverley H. Kane, MD" <sensei@...>
Date: Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: scales for human [hydration]

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For various reasons, a scale is not the best gauge of your hydration, especially if you don’t intend to weigh yourself butt naked at each stop. Some confounding features are: clothes that absorb sweat that is gone from your body but still registering on the scale; dirt on the clothes; the fact that urine in the kidneys and bladder will show on the scale but is not available for hydration (a serious design flaw in the human body—hello, Maker?).

A better low-tech measurement would be a urine specific gravity w/ a small plastic gravitometer; I think you can also get chemical strips. Also—your skin tenting and your “tilts” --orthostatic blood pressure measured when going from lying down to standing. Most importantly, if you are peeing on the trail and your pee isn’t too concentrated.

Mainly, you should learn to recognize the signs and felt sensations of hydration/dehydration (urination, mentation, etc) + apply the logical knowledge of how much you have drunk.

Beverley

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From: Melinda Faubel <mnfaubel@...>
Date: Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: scales for human [hydration]

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I feel like I have a pretty good handle on hydration.� Being a runner really helps because I'm used to the stress on my body, the heat, drinking fluids etc.� But, I thought it interesting that the people at western states run seemed to be putting a lot of emphasis on the scale weight at various checks.� I do know that after my ride last weekend, I ran into some "water availabiliy problems..." and afterward I jumped on the scale ( I was curious). �I had lost 4 pounds since the morning.� Ummmm.....I don't think that was fat burning.....

�

I must admit I have a facination with numbers and trends and I think the scale would be cool just for that reason alone.� No matter what the scale says, I'll drink when I'm thirsty (and sometimes when I'm not).� But I still think it would be cool to track my weight through several different rides, along with montioring the amount of fluids I drink, the number of times I pee, the temperature during the ride, and graph it on huge sheets of paper that I can look at and analyze.....you can see where this is going!� LOL.� You should see some of the statictics I keep on my horse for no other reason than to play around and see if I see any interesting trends or relationships.�

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Beverley H. Kane, MD <sensei@...> wrote:

For various reasons, a scale is not the best gauge of your hydration, especially if you don�t intend to weigh yourself butt naked at each stop. Some confounding features are: clothes that absorb sweat that is gone from your body but still registering on the scale; dirt on the clothes; the fact that urine in the kidneys and bladder will show on the scale but is not available for hydration (a serious design flaw in the human body�hello, Maker?).

A better low-tech measurement would be a urine specific gravity w/ a small plastic gravitometer; I think you can also get chemical strips. Also�your skin tenting and your �tilts� --orthostatic blood pressure measured when going from lying down to standing. Most importantly, if you are peeing on the trail and your pee isn�t too concentrated.

Mainly, you should learn to recognize the signs and felt sensations of hydration/dehydration (urination, mentation, etc) �+ apply the logical knowledge of how much you have drunk.

Beverley

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>>>>I'm seriously contemplating bringing along a little portable scale to weigh myself at the vet checks at Tevis to keep an eye on my hydration. �

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#4380

From: "Beverley H. Kane, MD" <sensei@...>
Date: Fri Jul 3, 2009 2:30 am
Subject: Re: What's In Your Bottle?// was: scales for human [hydration]

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Melinda – You sound like a pro! Please post your results. I myself am terrible about hydration. When I did my one marathon and several half marathons, I could get away with drinking very little—just a few paper cups handed out at the tables. That is NOT true on a 50, where I crump! I am still working on it. I would love to see a whole thread (revisited) on what people use—Camelbacks? 2 water bottles? 4? “What’s in your bottle?”

Beverley

On 7/2/09 10:39 AM, "Melinda Faubel" <mnfaubel@...> wrote:

I feel like I have a pretty good handle on hydration.� Being a runner really helps because I'm used to the stress on my body, the heat, drinking fluids etc.� But, I thought it interesting that the people at western states run seemed to be putting a lot of emphasis on the scale weight at various checks.� I do know that after my ride last weekend, I ran into some "water availabiliy problems..." and afterward I jumped on the scale ( I was curious). �I had lost 4 pounds since the morning.� Ummmm.....I don't think that was fat burning.....
�
I must admit I have a facination with numbers and trends and I think the scale would be cool just for that reason alone.� No matter what the scale says, I'll drink when I'm thirsty (and sometimes when I'm not).� But I still think it would be cool to track my weight through several different rides, along with montioring the amount of fluids I drink, the number of times I pee, the temperature during the ride, and graph it on huge sheets of paper that I can look at and analyze.....you can see where this is going!� LOL.� You should see some of the statictics I keep on my horse for no other reason than to play around and see if I see any interesting trends or relationships.�

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Beverley H. Kane, MD <sensei@...> wrote:

For various reasons, a scale is not the best gauge of your hydration, especially if you don’t intend to weigh yourself butt naked at each stop. Some confounding features are: clothes that absorb sweat that is gone from your body but still registering on the scale; dirt on the clothes; the fact that urine in the kidneys and bladder will show on the scale but is not available for hydration (a serious design flaw in the human body—hello, Maker?).

A better low-tech measurement would be a urine specific gravity w/ a small plastic gravitometer; I think you can also get chemical strips. Also—your skin tenting and your “tilts” --orthostatic blood pressure measured when going from lying down to standing. Most importantly, if you are peeing on the trail and your pee isn’t too concentrated.

Mainly, you should learn to recognize the signs and felt sensations of hydration/dehydration (urination, mentation, etc) �+ apply the logical knowledge of how much you have drunk.

Beverley

Someone wrote:

>>>>I'm seriously contemplating bringing along a little portable scale to weigh myself at the vet checks at Tevis to keep an eye on my hydration. �

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From: Marirose Six <6mules@...>
Date: Fri Jul 3, 2009 4:08 am
Subject: Re: What's In Your Bottle?// was: scales for human [hydration]

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I usually carry 4 water bottles. Sometimes, one of them is a Gatorade but not always. I try to make myself drink about 1 bottle for every 10 miles until dark. I seldom drink much after dark--just cruisin along looking for camp.

Unfortunately, I have been known to moon fellow riders on trail. It's amazing how when you look back no one is there, but the minute I drop my drawers another rider is passing by. Where do you come from?

I did, however learn from someone on this board that if I drink smaller amounts more often, rather than guzzling while I have the bottle out, (note: don't drink water like I drink my Hard Mike's) that I won't have to expose myself as often.

�

I ofetn carry some of those little flavor packets to put in the water, but I seldom use them. Occasionally at a vet check. I will also drink a loaded pop at a vet check sometimes, need the sugar & caffiene later in a ride.

�

If any of you come out to the Big Horn--just turn away when you see the a$$ next to the 1/2 a$$

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From: "Beverley H. Kane, MD" <sensei@...>
Date: Fri Jul 3, 2009 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: What's In Your Bottle?// was: scales for human [hydration]

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Marirose – How many oz are your bottles? Assuming you are female, please pm me about how you manage to pee off your saddle!!! (Yrs ago, someone on Ridecamp posted that she can change a tampon at a canter.)

- Beverley
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On 7/2/09 9:08 PM, "Marirose Six" <6mules@...> wrote:

I usually carry 4 water bottles. Sometimes, one of them is a Gatorade but not always. I try to make myself drink about 1 bottle for every 10 miles until dark. I seldom drink much after dark--just cruisin along looking for camp.

Unfortunately, I have been known to moon fellow riders on trail. It's amazing how when you look back no one is there, but the minute I drop my drawers another rider is passing by. Where do you come from?
I did, however learn from someone on this board that if I drink smaller amounts more often, rather than guzzling while I have the bottle out, (note: don't drink water like I drink my Hard Mike's) that I won't have to expose myself as often.�
I ofetn carry some of those little flavor packets to put in the water, but I seldom use them. Occasionally at a vet check. I will also drink a loaded pop at a vet check sometimes, need the sugar & caffiene later in a ride.
�
If any of you come out to the Big Horn--just turn away when you see the a$$ next to the 1/2 a$$

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From: Marirose Six <6mules@...>
Date: Fri Jul 3, 2009 3:56 pm
Subject: Re: What's In Your Bottle?// was: scales for human [hydration]

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Beverly, Sorry to mislead you--I am definately NOT that talented--I do get off of my mule. Anyhow, the bottles are 16 or 20 oz depending on what I have at the time. Also, I will usually freeze them at home ahead of time so that it will stay coler longer on my saddle, although I will have one that is not froze to start with.

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From: "Sharon Levasseur" <sharon1359@...>
Date: Fri Jul 3, 2009 3:59 pm
Subject: RE: What's In Your Bottle?// was: scales for human [hydration]

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I use two 16oz bottles, one with diluted Gatorade and usually one with just water… but now I will put amino acids in it b/c that seems to be the perfect combo for me! If it’s a really hot ride, I’ll carry two extra bottles with plain water in case I want to squirt some on my horse.

Bev, I suspect that although she didn’t say so, Marirose IS dismounting to pee. ;-) She did say “the ass NEXT TO the half ass”.

I can reapply anti-chafing gel at a full-out gallop if I need to. I’m not surprised at the tampon changing, that doesn’t seem like it would be hard if you use an OB or similar.

-Sharon L. in Maine

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I usually carry 4 water bottles. Sometimes, one of them is a Gatorade but not always. I try to make myself drink about 1 bottle for every 10 miles until dark. I seldom drink much after dark--just cruisin along looking for camp.

Unfortunately, I have been known to moon fellow riders on trail. It's amazing how when you look back no one is there, but the minute I drop my drawers another rider is passing by. Where do you come from?
I did, however learn from someone on this board that if I drink smaller amounts more often, rather than guzzling while I have the bottle out, (note: don't drink water like I drink my Hard Mike's) that I won't have to expose myself as often.
I ofetn carry some of those little flavor packets to put in the water, but I seldom use them. Occasionally at a vet check. I will also drink a loaded pop at a vet check sometimes, need the sugar & caffiene later in a ride.

If any of you come out to the Big Horn--just turn away when you see the a$$ next to the 1/2 a$$

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From: Cindy Collins <c_collins@...>
Date: Sat Jul 4, 2009 7:32 pm
Subject: Re: What's In Your Bottle?// was: scales for human [hydration]

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I love the new Camelback elyte tablets...I used them about half

strength.  I've used them on my last three 50 milers.  They are not

nearly as sweet as many products and I like that.  I put small

camelback bladders in the side compartments of my pommel bag.  Works

great and let's me sip fluids without stopping.  I usually have some

"straight" water with me, too.  Marirose, I want to know any tricks

for peeing "on" your horse/mule :)  I did have a friend who was so

cold and so exhausted and so wet, one of the years it snowed hard on

the BigHorn, that she did just pee in the saddle!  She said it was the

only thing warm that happened all day :)

Cindy

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From: Marirose Six <6mules@...>
Date: Sat Jul 4, 2009 7:48 pm
Subject: Re: Re: What's In Your Bottle?// was: scales for human [hydration]

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Cindy said:

"I did have a friend who was so
cold and so exhausted and so wet, one of the years it snowed hard on
the BigHorn, that she did just pee in the saddle! She said it was the
only thing warm that happened all day :)"

�

I sure hope it's not that cold this year!

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From: "Kathy" <k_m_sherman@...>
Date: Sun Jul 5, 2009 12:51 am
Subject: Re: What's In Your Bottle?// was: scales for human [hydration]

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It just might help prevent a bad case of poison oak too (:>)



Kathy



--- In new100milers@yahoogroups.com, Melinda Faubel <mnfaubel@...> wrote:

>

> yep, works great!

>

> On 7/5/09, Beverley H. Kane, MD <sensei@...> wrote:

> > OMG! Here is the product entry for the Sani-Fem Freshette F.U.D. @ REI:

> >

> > http://www.rei.com/product/407267

> >

> >

> > On 7/5/09 3:02 PM, "Melinda Faubel" <mnfaubel@...> wrote:

> >

> >>  If any women are interested in peeing off the saddle, there is a device

> >> from

> >> REI that makes is possible......check out:

> >>

> >>

http://bootsandsaddles4mel.blogspot.com/2009/05/im-off-and-new-product-review.

> >> html

> >>

> >> Melinda

> >>

> >

> >

>

>

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From: Melinda Faubel <mnfaubel@...>
Date: Sun Jul 5, 2009 10:06 pm
Subject: Re: What's In Your Bottle?// was: scales for human [hydration]

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I'm far from being a "pro", but here is what has worked for me.�

I did carry a camelbak the first year I did endurance.� I still carry if it's going to be a long time between checks and I'll need more water than the 2 bottles I have.� Normally I carry 2 - 16 ounce water bottles with me.� Every time my horse walks, I sip from them.� seems to work out pretty well.� At minimum I should be drinking at least one bottle an hour.

I tried carrying propel and gatorade during my conditioning rides this weekend and both are a no-go.� Gatorade tastes way too chemically, and propel ends up tasting too sweet.� drinking plain water and eating my electrolytes is going to work best for me.

Melinda

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Beverley H. Kane, MD <sensei@...> wrote:

Melinda � You sound like a pro! Please post your results. I myself am terrible about hydration. When I did my one marathon and several half marathons, I could get away with drinking very little�just a few paper cups handed out at the tables. That is NOT true on a 50, where I crump! I am still working on it. I would love to see a whole thread (revisited) on what people use�Camelbacks? 2 water bottles? 4? �What�s in your bottle?�

Beverley

On 7/2/09 10:39 AM, "Melinda Faubel" <mnfaubel@...> wrote:

��

��

I feel like I have a pretty good handle on hydration.� Being a runner really helps because I'm used to the stress on my body, the heat, drinking fluids etc.� But, I thought it interesting that the people at western states run seemed to be putting a lot of emphasis on the scale weight at various checks.� I do know that after my ride last weekend, I ran into some "water availabiliy problems..." and afterward I jumped on the scale ( I was curious). �I had lost 4 pounds since the morning.� Ummmm.....I don't think that was fat burning.....
�
I must admit I have a facination with numbers and trends and I think the scale would be cool just for that reason alone.� No matter what the scale says, I'll drink when I'm thirsty (and sometimes when I'm not).� But I still think it would be cool to track my weight through several different rides, along with montioring the amount of fluids I drink, the number of times I pee, the temperature during the ride, and graph it on huge sheets of paper that I can look at and analyze.....you can see where this is going!� LOL.� You should see some of the statictics I keep on my horse for no other reason than to play around and see if I see any interesting trends or relationships.�

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Beverley H. Kane, MD <sensei@...> wrote:

For various reasons, a scale is not the best gauge of your hydration, especially if you don�t intend to weigh yourself butt naked at each stop. Some confounding features are: clothes that absorb sweat that is gone from your body but still registering on the scale; dirt on the clothes; the fact that urine in the kidneys and bladder will show on the scale but is not available for hydration (a serious design flaw in the human body�hello, Maker?).

A better low-tech measurement would be a urine specific gravity w/ a small plastic gravitometer; I think you can also get chemical strips. Also�your skin tenting and your �tilts� --orthostatic blood pressure measured when going from lying down to standing. Most importantly, if you are peeing on the trail and your pee isn�t too concentrated.

Mainly, you should learn to recognize the signs and felt sensations of hydration/dehydration (urination, mentation, etc) �+ apply the logical knowledge of how much you have drunk.

Beverley

Someone wrote:

>>>>I'm seriously contemplating bringing along a little portable scale to weigh myself at the vet checks at Tevis to keep an eye on my hydration. �

_______________
Beverley Kane, MD
Horsensei Equine-Assisted Learning & Therapy
Woodside, CA
http://www.horsensei.com

The Manual of Medicine and Horsemanship--
Transforming the Doctor-Patient Relationship with Equine-Assisted Learning
http://www.authorhouse.com:80/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=49669

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Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: What's In Your Bottle?// was: scales for human [hydration

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I wear a 100 oz. Camelbak. In hot weather, I'll often empty it on each loop, and *still* not have to pee till late in the ride (I sweat a LOT). I drink Ensure at holds, as well as yogurt smoothies. For elyte supplementation, I take the "Salt Stick" capsules I buy from Zombie Runner (an ultrarunner site), which are elytes formulated for ultrarunners. They're similar to the Succeed caps. I take one about every hour if it's ghastly hot and humid (I'm in SE Texas, aka the sauna).

Dawn Carrie, Texas

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From: Beverley H. Kane, MD <sensei@...>
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Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: [new100milers] What's In Your Bottle?// was: scales for human [hydration]

Melinda – You sound like a pro! Please post your results. I myself am terrible about hydration. When I did my one marathon and several half marathons, I could get away with drinking very little—just a few paper cups handed out at the tables. That is NOT true on a 50, where I crump! I am still working on it. I would love to see a=2 0whole thread (revisited) on what people use—Camelbacks? 2 water bottles? 4? “What’s in your bottle?”

Beverley

On 7/2/09 10:39 AM, "Melinda Faubel" <mnfaubel@gmail.com> wrote:

I feel like I have a pretty good handle on hydration. Being a runner really helps because I'm used to the stress on my body, the heat, drinking fluids etc. But, I thought it interesting that the people at western states run seemed to be putting a lot of emphasis on the scale weight at various checks. I do know that after my ride last weekend, I ran into some "water availabiliy problems..." and afterward I jumped on the scale ( I was curious). I had lost 4 pounds since the morning. Ummmm.....I don't think that was fat burning.....

I must admit I have a facination with numbers and trends and I think the scale would be cool just for that reason alone. No matter what the scale says, I'll drink when I'm thirsty (and sometimes when I'm not). But I still think it would be cool to track my weight through several different rides, along with montioring the amount of fluids I drink, the number of times I pee, the temperature during the ride, and graph it on huge sheets of paper that I can look at and analyze.....you can see where this is going! LOL. You should see some of the st atictics I keep on my horse for no other reason than to play around and see if I see any interesting trends or relationships.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Beverley H. Kane, MD <sensei@horsensei.com> wrote:

For various reasons, a scale is not the best gauge of your hydration, especially if you don’t intend to weigh yourself butt naked at each stop. Some confounding features are: clothes that absorb sweat that is gone from your body but still registering on the scale; dirt on the clothes; the fact that urine in the kidneys and bladder will show on the scale but is not available for hydration (a serious design flaw in the human body—hello, Maker?).

A better low-tech measurement would be a urine specific gravity w/ a small plastic gravitometer; I think you can also get chemical strips. Also—your skin tenting and your “tilts” --orthostatic blood pressure measured when going from lying down to standing. Most importantly, if you are peeing on the trail and your pee isn’t too concentrated.

Mainly, you should learn to recognize the signs and felt sensations of hydration/dehydration (urination, mentation, etc) + apply the logical knowledge of how much you have drunk.

Beverley

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>>>>I'm seriously20contemplating bringing along a little portable scale to weigh myself at the vet checks at Tevis to keep an eye on my hydration.

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