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Subject: Re: [NEKS] Re: West Dennis Update- Plovers 2 Kiteboarders 0
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hello,
This story is real !?? What change since those days?
Josuka www.kitebrasilia.com.br
--- Ted Haynes <edwardahaynes@...> escreveu:
> Maybe thats because they LIKE the kites in the skies
> and they help
> keep predators away! What proof do the environmental
> police have that
> our kites scare them. I understand that the plovers
> could
> accidentally get hit with a stray kite, but as far
> as being
> scared...I want proof! The way I see it, kitesurfing
> is promoting the
> growth of plovers. We should get paid to "patrol"
> the beaches.
>
> Ted
>
> --- In neks@yahoogroups.com, "Flysurfer2001"
> <phil@k...> wrote:
> > Thank you James.
> >
> > Apparently WD has the greatest number of Nesting
> shore birds in the
> > NE. What luck!
> >
> >
> > --- In neks@yahoogroups.com, "jimbocanniff"
> <jimbocanniff@y...>
> wrote:
> > > Phil,
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for your efforts trying to
> reopen WD for us.
> > >
> > > This is a bad precedent, I hope no other towns
> latch onto this
> type
> > > of restriction.
> > >
> > > I would be willing to help out, if you like,
> just let me know.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In neks@yahoogroups.com, "Flysurfer2001"
> <phil@k...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well Kids I hate to Bring this news this
> morning, but there
> will
> > > be
> > > > no kiteboarding allowed at West Dennis until
> the Plovers have
> ALL
> > > > fledged.
> > > >
> > > > I was on the agenda for the town Meeting last
> night and after
> > > several
> > > > extremely boring hours of waiting I was at the
> microphone and
> on
> > > the
> > > > Television.
> > > >
> > > > I brought visual aids, I spoke as well as i
> know how and I even
> > > wore
> > > > a shirt and tie. In the end the Plovers won
> out and the town
> > > decided
> > > > they could not take the risk of a plover
> getting hurt or
> > > frightened
> > > > by a kite.
> > > >
> > > > I recommneded a launching and Landing area
> 200yrds from the
> > > closest
> > > > plover nest clearly marked and explained how
> we would make
> every
> > > > effort to make sure everyone follows the rules
> of keeping kites
> > > away
> > > > from the beach at all times.
> > > >
> > > > To thier credit they felt terrible about the
> situation and
> > > > unfortunatly there is really nothing they can
> do. If a plover
> is
> > > > killer the town is subject to a massive fine
> (up to $50,000)
> > > >
> > > > Thier main point is that we cannot be police
> force and cannot
> be
> > > > there all the time to make sure the rules are
> followed and
> > cannnot
> > > > legally enforce them. I fought back and
> explained that we are a
> > > small
> > > > group that in one way or another are all
> connected either here
> or
> > > by
> > > > other means and that the rules would be known.
>
> > > >
> > > > Unfortualty it is far easier for an
> organization such as a town
> > to
> > > > say no to an activity and take 0 risk, than to
> say yes and take
> > > the
> > > > risk of an incident.
> > > >
> > > > More bad news.... Another group of plovers has
> just hatched
> which
> > > > means another 35 days until they fledge.
> > > > This means late july or early august before we
> can use the
> beach
> > > for
> > > > kiteboarding.
> > > >
> > > > I am not done with this situation, I will
> continue to fight to
> > see
> > > if
> > > > we can gain access for next season.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to start a small group of people
> who can get
> > together
> > > to
> > > > work on ideas to meet the needs of the town so
> that we can have
> > > > access next summer.
> > > >
> > > > Those interested please let me know.
> > > >
> > > > Philip
> > > >
> > > > "When life gives you lemons, Squeeze the juice
> into a plovers
> > eyes"
>
>
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