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#2552 From: "Alan Atwood" <Alan_Atwood@...>
Date: Sun Oct 2, 2005 3:38 am
Subject: results and writeup for Whitemore's Super Cross Cup #1
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Howe, McCormack take day 1 on Long Island

Strong performances from Barbara Howe (Velo Bella) and Mark McCormack (Clif
Bar) took home victories in day 1 of the 2005 Whitmore’s Super Cross Cup.
The riders were met by beautiful sunshine and 75 degrees towards race time;
very un-cross like conditions.  But the warm and very dry conditions made
for very fast racing and some great competition for the riders and the
spectators who attended.

14 women lined up for the first east coast UCI race of the season, and it
was Howe who shot out the blocks to take the first lap hurdle prime that was
offered by the promoting Hampton Velo Club.  Howe’s acceleration was so that
only a couple of riders kept in touch with her on the first lap, Maureen
Bruno-Roy (Independent Fabrication) and Mackenzie Dickey (Team Bike Alley).
But Howe was just too strong on the day and led wire-to-wire for the race
win.  Bruno-Roy was 2nd and Dickey was 3rd as their places were never
threatened.  4th place went to the well-rested Anna Milkowski
(Gearworks/Spin Arts) despite a slow start that saw her hit the first
barriers in 7th behind teammate Rebecca Wellons, Pauline Frascone
(Independent Fabrication), and Katheryn Roszko (NCC/BikeReg.com).  While
Roszko could not keep pace, Wellons and Frascone were together for most of
the race until the last 2 laps of the race where Wellons pulled away to
round out the top 5.

The men’s race was a good size field for a smaller regional race, and some
heavy hitters were amongst the mix.  McCormack did not the same start as
Howe did in the women’s race, as veteran Jon Hamblen (FiordiFrutta) and
espoir Troy Wells (TIAA/CREF/Clif Bar) blew out of the gates to lead the
first lap.  Wells’ acceleration was enough to capture the first lap preme,
but soon after that a very familiar figure was at the front.  As he stated
later at a post race interview, he took advantage of the riders being tired
from their first lap full throttle start and accelerated himself off the
front and wound up staying clear to the finish.  With McCormack getting out
of site, the front group of Jesse Anthony (Clif Bar), Matt Shriver
(Easton/Kona/CCA), Hamblen, Wells, Josh Snead (Rock Lobster), and Matt Kraus
(Alan) settled in for what was sure to be a dogfight on the fast, dry
course.  Most of the riders took turns trying to accelerate and get away,
but most wound up not getting too far away as the pace was just too high.
The pace proved to be too much for some, and as some were getting gapped,
Shriver accelerated with 2 laps to go and no one could match it.  The right
timing for Shriver gave him 2nd place on the day.  Meanwhile some new
players were coming in to the fold, as teammates Michael Cody and Matt White
(FiordiFrutta) were able to bridge up and give Hamblen some teammates to
work with.  With 3 of the 6 on the same team, it was inevitable that a
FiordiFrutta rider would challenge for the last podium spot, and Hamblen
took advantage of a surge by Wells to get a gap of the rest of the fledgling
group.  These 2 stuck together until the final sprint, where Hamblen’s road
skills came into play and easily outsprinted a tired but satisfied Wells.
Cody also took advantage of the teammate factor, as he had enough energy to
get away on the last lap and beat Anthony and White for 5th place.

The Whitmore’s Super Cross Cup continues tomorrow as the riders will be
vying for valuable Cat 1 points and a near $8,000 total prize list.  Racing
for amateur men, beginners, masters, and kids will take place during the day
beginning at 9am on the Southampton Youth Services campus in Southampton,
New York.

Whitmore’s Super Cross Cup Day 1 Elite Results

Category: Elite Men 34 starters

Place Time Bib # Rider  Team
1 0:56:12 1 Mark MCCORMACK Clif Bar
2 0:56:32 9 Matt SHRIVER Kona Easton/CCA
3 0:56:45 26 Jonathan Hamblen FiordiFrutta Elite Cycling Team
4 0:56:48 32 Troy Wells TIAA/CREF/Clif Bar
5 0:57:01 25 Michael Cody FiordiFrutta Elite Cycling Team
6 0:57:07 2 Jesse ANTHONY Clif Bar
7 0:57:17 3 Matt WHITE FiordiFrutta Elite Cycling Team
8 0:57:31 5 Joshua SNEAD Rock Lobster
9 0:57:44 12 Matt KRAUS Alan Factory Team
10 0:58:22 4 Ryan LEECH Fort/GPOA !
11 0:58:34 8 Justin SPINELLI CYBC/RICHARD SACHS
12 0:58:44 33 Roger Aspholm Westwood Velo
13 0:58:44 7 Jacob STECHMANN Alan Factory Team
14 0:59:16 19 Ryan O'CONNOR 1K2GO/S&W SPORTS CYCLING TEAM
15 0:59:18 22 Noah TAYLOR RGM Watches- RICHARD SACHS - HUDSON VALLEY
					 VELODROME
16 1:00:22 10 Jonny BOLD Corner Cycle
17 1:00:45 6 Adam HODGES MYERSON Team Nerac.com p/b Banknorth
18 1:00:47 13 Robert CAMPOS HVC/Jessies
19 1:01:53 21 Weston SCHEMPF FORT-GPOA!
20 -1 lap 28 Aaron Molloy 1K2GO/S&W SPORTS CYCLING TEAM
21 -1 lap 15 Jeffrey CRADDOCK CCB/Volkswagon
22 -1 lap 29 Brad Sheehan 1K2GO/S&W SPORTS CYCLING TEAM
23 -1 lap 16 Noah HARWOOD Coast to Coast/CL Noonan/KAM
24 -1 lap 17 Brian HAYES RGM Watches- RICHARD SACHS - HUDSON VALLEY
					 VELODROME
25 -1 lap 20 Myles ROMANOW Hampton Velo /Jessie's
26 -1 lap 34 Ralph Rueben Rotations/Gettysburg
27 -1 lap 23 Matt WILSON NAV/Pedros
28 -1 lap 14 Todd CASSAN Rocinante
29 -1 lap 30 Logan Hodson Indenpent Fabrications

Category: Elite Women 14 starters

Place Time Bib # Rider  Team
1 39:31 99 Barbara HOWE Velo Bella
2 40:52 85 Maureen Bruno-Roy Indenpent Fabrications
3 41:51 97 Mackenzie DICKEY Team Bicycle Alley
4 42:12 98 Anna MILKOWSKI TEAm Lipton
5 42:23 94 Rebecca WELLONS Gearworks/Spin Arts Cycling
6 42:54 89 Pauline Frascone Indenpent Fabrications
7 43:48 95 Kathryn ROSZKO NCC / BikeReg.com
8 44:10 87 Alicia Hamblen Richard Sachs/CYBC
9 45:07 93 Lisa MOST Wissahickon
10 45:40 90 Megan Bilodeau NCC / BikeReg.com
11 46:42 92 Susan MACLEAN Gear Works/Spin Arts Cycling Team
12 46:54 86 Kami Tremblay Gearworks/Spin Arts Cycling
13 -1 lap 91 Martha WILSON Gear Works/Spin Arts Cycling Team
14 -1 lap 88 Allerton Johnson UPMC/ACT



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#2551 From: "hjurenka" <hjurenka@...>
Date: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: No poop, bags, or qualifications runs.. Just hard core cross racin
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--- In necyclocross@yahoogroups.com, Steven Bonadio
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> So I wasn't the only one that came _unglued_ on that run-up....
> Steve

The next day racing provided even greater challenge on a "little" run-
up. The leaders in Elite Men's race took this in stride (some even
bunny-hopped the barrier on top), but behind them a mayhem ensued!

One minute video clip courtesy of Pete Mahoney.

http://tinyurl.com/ca9ye

or

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I may post some more videos later, now I am off to Southampton.

Henry

#2550 From: bike psyke <bikepsyke@...>
Date: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:01 pm
Subject: Re: Re: No poop, bags, or qualifications runs.. Just hard core cross racin
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thanks....I needed that!

hjurenka <hjurenka@...> wrote:--- In necyclocross@yahoogroups.com, bike
psyke <bikepsyke@y...>
wrote:
> I thought the pantomime horse was better

Ah, the "pantomime" horse was good - it may have been this little
mishap on the run-up that cost them valuable points ...

http://tinyurl.com/7rcdj

or

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id=2120056312&code=18502248&mode=invite&DCMP=isc-email-AlbumInvite

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#2549 From: "Robert Belcher" <robobike2@...>
Date: Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:40 pm
Subject: Junior's Cyclo-Cross Clinic
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The Union Velo Junior Developement program will be hosting a Junior's
Cyclocross Clinic prior to the Canton Cup Cyclo-Cross race on Sunday October
9th. Paul Curley will be coaching this free clinic which is open to all
junior's. If you have a junior racer and you can get to the venue early,
please send me an e-mail and we'll get your junior on the list. The Clinic
will run from 8:30AM to just before the first race of the day at 10:00AM

Our thanks go out to NEBRA who through their grant program has provided the
funds allowing us to offer these programs. Also thanks to Paul for his
support and to the promotors of the Canton Cup for allowing us use their
venue as a fulcrum for our clinic.

Please let me know if you have a Junior who is planning on attending.

Rob Belcher
Union Velo Club

#2548 From: myles romanow <hamptonvelo@...>
Date: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:19 am
Subject: Re: Re: No poop, bags, or qualifications runs.. Just hard core cross racin
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IF the horse show's well pay out double.
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#2547 From: Steven Bonadio <steven.bonadio@...>
Date: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:09 am
Subject: Re: Re: No poop, bags, or qualifications runs.. Just hard core cross racin
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At 04:16 PM 9/29/2005, hjurenka wrote:
>--- In necyclocross@yahoogroups.com, bike psyke <bikepsyke@y...>
>wrote:
> > I thought the pantomime horse was better
>
>Ah, the "pantomime" horse was good - it may have been this little
>mishap on the run-up that cost them valuable points ...
>
><http://tinyurl.com/7rcdj>http://tinyurl.com/7rcdj
>
>or
>
><http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?>http://www.imagestation.com/a\
lbum/pictures.html?
>id=2120056312&code=18502248&mode=invite&DCMP=isc-email-AlbumInvite
>
>Henry


So I wasn't the only one that came _unglued_ on that run-up....

Steve

#2546 From: "e-RICHIE" <richardsachs@...>
Date: Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:06 am
Subject: if you're ever axed...
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"...is cyclocross like mountain bikin' but with a 10 speed?"
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/album17/Robert_Oubron_1938
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#2545 From: "hjurenka" <hjurenka@...>
Date: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: No poop, bags, or qualifications runs.. Just hard core cross racin
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--- In necyclocross@yahoogroups.com, bike psyke <bikepsyke@y...>
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> I thought the pantomime horse was better

Ah, the "pantomime" horse was good - it may have been this little
mishap on the run-up that cost them valuable points ...

http://tinyurl.com/7rcdj

or

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?
id=2120056312&code=18502248&mode=invite&DCMP=isc-email-AlbumInvite

Henry

#2544 From: bike psyke <bikepsyke@...>
Date: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:18 pm
Subject: Re: Re: No poop, bags, or qualifications runs.. Just hard core cross racin
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I thought the pantomime horse was better

hjurenka <hjurenka@...> wrote:For those of you who remember 1998
Nationals in Ft.Devens, MA, there
were quite a few characters dressed up in funny costumes. Robbie
Dapice won a prize for his outfit, I think.

See a short video clip here:

http://tinyurl.com/974z8

or

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id=2120058314&code=18501404&mode=invite&DCMP=isc-email-AlbumInvite

Henry

--- In necyclocross@yahoogroups.com, myles romanow <hamptonvelo@y...>
wrote:
>... and spectator
> prizes for noisiest, most pumped up spectators during
> sunday's Elite races.
>
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#2543 From: "hjurenka" <hjurenka@...>
Date: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:59 pm
Subject: Re: No poop, bags, or qualifications runs.. Just hard core cross racin
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For those of you who remember 1998 Nationals in Ft.Devens, MA, there
were quite a few characters dressed up in funny costumes. Robbie
Dapice won a prize for his outfit, I think.

See a short video clip here:

http://tinyurl.com/974z8

or

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?
id=2120058314&code=18501404&mode=invite&DCMP=isc-email-AlbumInvite

Henry

--- In necyclocross@yahoogroups.com, myles romanow <hamptonvelo@y...>
wrote:
>... and spectator
> prizes for noisiest, most pumped up spectators during
> sunday's Elite races.
>
> Myles

#2542 From: myles romanow <hamptonvelo@...>
Date: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: Modern cyclo-cross
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I thought that was why you and sachs had those things
through your ears..
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#2541 From: bike psyke <bikepsyke@...>
Date: Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:57 pm
Subject: Strange Tales from the Peloton
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/sep05/sep29news2

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#2540 From: bike psyke <bikepsyke@...>
Date: Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: Modern cyclo-cross
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'piercer-dude'......yer _so_ hip, steve

Steven Bonadio <steven.bonadio@...> wrote:At 09:56 PM 9/28/2005, you wrote:
>I don't think you'll find this carrying technique in the next "Solutions for
>Cyclo-Cross" dvd:
>
><http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/2691965/detail.html?qs=;s=71;w=400>http://www.wf\
tv.com/slideshow/2691965/detail.html?qs=;s=71;w=400
>
>Adam

I know that all you piercer-dudes out there are jealous. You're all going,
"Why didn't I think of that first?" :-)

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#2539 From: Steven Bonadio <steven.bonadio@...>
Date: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:21 am
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At 09:56 PM 9/28/2005, you wrote:
>I don't think you'll find this carrying technique in the next "Solutions for
>Cyclo-Cross" dvd:
>
><http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/2691965/detail.html?qs=;s=71;w=400>http://www.wf\
tv.com/slideshow/2691965/detail.html?qs=;s=71;w=400
>
>Adam

I know that all you piercer-dudes out there are jealous. You're all going,
"Why didn't I think of that first?" :-)

Steve

#2538 From: "e-RICHIE" <richardsachs@...>
Date: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:01 am
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that stem is too high up, no?
e-RICHIE©™®

-- Adam Hodges Myerson <adam@...> wrote:
I don't think you'll find this carrying technique in the next "Solutions for
Cyclo-Cross" dvd:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/2691965/detail.html?qs=;s=71;w=400

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#2537 From: Adam Hodges Myerson <adam@...>
Date: Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:56 am
Subject: Modern cyclo-cross
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I don't think you'll find this carrying technique in the next "Solutions for
Cyclo-Cross" dvd:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/2691965/detail.html?qs=;s=71;w=400

Adam

#2536 From: myles romanow <hamptonvelo@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:37 pm
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Bustah Rhymes keeps threatening to come out.  I tell
him every year there will be plenty of fly white
bitches with thick asses, but so far he's never made
it.. We might have some local celeb sightings... you
never know.  Last year the kid that won our B race had
his movie star mom there to cheer for him. Definitely
cool.  If it wasn't fashion week, Vogue was going to
send me some podium girls.... shucks.
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#2535 From: "e-RICHIE" <richardsachs@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:52 pm
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will p diddy or spielberg be there?
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   Hey guys. Fed up with huge fields, mud, destroyed
courses, and other catastrophes?  Well I've got the
solution for you!

(albeit without stars n stripes jersey's for winners,
but cash cash cash!)

Whitmore's Landscaping Super Cross Cup WEEKEND!
Two full days of excelsior Cross racing on Long
Islands's East End!  Saturday Cat 2, Sunday Cat 1!
Killer prize list, pre reg available on
www.bikereg.com .  Check www.hamptonvelo.com for more
information!

Super fast course, live music on Sunday and spectator
prizes for noisiest, most pumped up spectators during
sunday's Elite races.

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#2534 From: myles romanow <hamptonvelo@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:45 pm
Subject: No poop, bags, or qualifications runs.. Just hard core cross racin
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Hey guys. Fed up with huge fields, mud, destroyed
courses, and other catastrophes?  Well I've got the
solution for you!

(albeit without stars n stripes jersey's for winners,
but cash cash cash!)

Whitmore's Landscaping Super Cross Cup WEEKEND!
Two full days of excelsior Cross racing on Long
Islands's East End!  Saturday Cat 2, Sunday Cat 1!
Killer prize list, pre reg available on
www.bikereg.com .  Check www.hamptonvelo.com for more
information!

Super fast course, live music on Sunday and spectator
prizes for noisiest, most pumped up spectators during
sunday's Elite races.

Myles



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#2533 From: bike psyke <bikepsyke@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: qualify for the B dance
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I knew I had this link somewhere

http://www.engrish.com/

Adam Szczepanski <adam.szczepanski@...> wrote:
in english?  or engrish?

you would make a good bureaucrat.

;-)

On 9/27/05, Adam Hodges Myerson <adam@...> wrote:
>  How do you tell that to people who've already registered for the B race?
>
>  "You thought you were signing up for the race, but now we've changed it to
> a
>  qualifier."
>
>  Perhaps a good idea for 2007, but it would be difficult to institute for
>  this year.
>
>  Adam
>
>
>  on 9/27/05 9:33 AM, matthew_kraus@... at matthew_kraus@... wrote:
>
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I like the qualifying rounds idear.....
>  >
>  > Rather than put it all into one bucket, have two qualifying B races on
>  > Friday, each 30 minutes long, then take the top 40 from each race and put
>  > them into the terrordome for the B Natz Championship on Sunday.  Split
> the
>  > qualifiying races by last name alpha (A-L, M-Z). If someone can not make
>  > the qualifier, then they can start at the back on Sunday.
>  >
>  > Or maybe its as simple as arranging the B field in the start grid. It
> might
>  > take some work, but take the guys/gals who have gotten a top 10 (or 15)
> in
>  > the season and at least get them in the front half.  If someone has not
> top
>  > 10'd (or 15'd) all season, they dont deserve to start in front just cause
>  > they got some inside line or was in front of the computer for early reg.
>  > This aint the Vermont 50.
>  >
>  >
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>  >
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>  > Hmmm.. This one is a toughie. I know people that race
>  > singlespeed for this very reason. Fewer bodies.. .
>  >
>  > Perhaps the following options..
>  >
>  > 1- 1 lap tt to seed riders into their respective
>  > fields.  (B, b minus, etc etc etc.)
>  > 2- Multiple fields, since no jersey is awarded (??)
>  > 3- Death match for call ups.
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#2532 From: "Mike Zanconato" <bikes@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:26 pm
Subject: RE: Start list Nationals
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depends on whether you are more interested in a half pound of bologna or
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Isn't that sort of like scalping low numbers at the deli?

Mike Zanconato <bikes@...> wrote:Man, I hope I don't have to
qualify for it.

I was thinking of ebaying it and drinking beer.

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zanc
do you still get bib #1?
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Where are you all seeing the confirmed rider lists for nationals?

I can't seem to find the link?

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#2531 From: bike psyke <bikepsyke@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:14 pm
Subject: RE: Start list Nationals
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Isn't that sort of like scalping low numbers at the deli?

Mike Zanconato <bikes@...> wrote:Man, I hope I don't have to qualify
for it.

I was thinking of ebaying it and drinking beer.

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zanc
do you still get bib #1?
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Looks like they took the link down.

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#2530 From: Todd Rowell <todd.rowell@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:01 pm
Subject: Re: qualify for the B dance
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Something else to consider: how many riders will still be racing come
December? A lot of folks start the season all gung-ho but fade and
disappear before Nationals. This isn't necessarily a lack of intent,
but other stuff just gets in the way. I've certainly been there.

Perhaps the promoters are just counting on a lot of no-shows.


On 9/28/05, Curtis Boivin <synesthetic@...> wrote:
> Isnt the simplest solution to add more events?  Add the single speed, C race
> and masters 35 race.  I think that safety should become a concern with a 200
> person field in a cyclocross race.  The race so far has been to register
> early for a front line position.

#2529 From: Adam Hodges Myerson <adam@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:06 pm
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A solution is being worked on, which is why the link was taken down.

There will likely be 2 B fields on Sunday, divided by age.

More info as it becomes available.

Adam


on 9/28/05 8:57 AM, Scott, Wayne at wscott@... wrote:

> One would hope this isn't to keep people in the dark that they will be
> starting at the back of a 150+ rider field.
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#2528 From: "Mike Zanconato" <bikes@...>
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Man, I hope I don't have to qualify for it.

I was thinking of ebaying it and drinking beer.

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zanc
do you still get bib #1?
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-- "Mike Zanconato" <bikes@...> wrote:
Looks like they took the link down.

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I can't seem to find the link?

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#2527 From: "Scott, Wayne" <wscott@...>
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One would hope this isn't to keep people in the dark that they will be
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They took the link down since people were wigging out about the size of
the
list. 171 when last I saw the B race. JM


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>Where are you all seeing the confirmed rider lists for nationals?
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#2526 From: "e-RICHIE" <richardsachs@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:59 pm
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#2525 From: "Mike Zanconato" <bikes@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:56 am
Subject: RE: Start list Nationals
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Looks like they took the link down.

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I can't seem to find the link?

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#2524 From: "Juston Manville" <manvillej@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:30 pm
Subject: RE: Start list Nationals
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They took the link down since people were wigging out about the size of the
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>From: "R. Todd Crisafulli" <rtbike@...>
>Reply-To: necyclocross@yahoogroups.com
>To: <necyclocross@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [necyclocross] Start list Nationals
>Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:45:51 -0400
>
>Where are you all seeing the confirmed rider lists for nationals?
>
>I can't seem to find the link?
>
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#2523 From: "Curtis Boivin" <synesthetic@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:38 am
Subject: Re: qualify for the B dance
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Isnt the simplest solution to add more events?  Add the single speed, C race
and masters 35 race.  I think that safety should become a concern with a 200
person field in a cyclocross race.  The race so far has been to register
early for a front line position.

>From: Todd Rowell <todd.rowell@...>
>Reply-To: necyclocross@yahoogroups.com
>To: necyclocross@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [necyclocross] qualify for the B dance
>Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:00:27 -0400
>
>On 9/27/05, Steven Bonadio <steven.bonadio@...> wrote:
> > As for other reasons why, I would agree with your list but I
> > would also add that there will be some small % of guys who are
> > good enough but don't want to buy a UCI license for the Elite
> > race(s).
>
>Actually, this raises a good question: is a UCI license required for
>the Liberty Cup? Tim pointed out to me that a UCI license is required
>for the elite Nationals (oddly enough, I thought). But maybe those of
>us on the cusp should just switch to the Liberty Cup, if it's a
>non-UCI race.

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