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#30 From: <felix362@...>
Date: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: Ultracycling.com JMC Update Through Saratoga 12/24
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Congradulations Tony!
Sounds like your having a real good year.
Hope to see you at BMB.

For sake of discussion... what do your nutrition strategy for these long rides?

#29 From: Tony Goodnight <tony.rg@...>
Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:46 pm
Subject: Fwd: Ultracycling.com JMC Update Through Saratoga 12/24
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Hello Ya'll

This past weekend was the Saratoga 24 Ultracycling race. At the
beginning of the week my back alignment had gotten off and I was not
very functional, so off to the Hall Clinic I went. The next day things
were feeling much better. There have been several times this year when
Dr. Hall and Dr. Hall Jr have made adjustment which allowed me to ride
much better that I would have otherwise!

Since it was an 800 mile drive to the race in NY I left on Thursday and
got there on Friday to check in and get a good nights rest before the
start which worked well this time. The course was a 31.8 mile loly pop
loop with about 1200 ft of climbing per loop. Morning temps were good
in the 60's with a high of about 88. My first lap was 20.4 avg, second
was at 19.8, so not too bad for this non drafting event. My 100 mile
time was 5:35 and I had 196 miles in at 12 hours with 30 minutes of
that off the bike which would have given me 5th place if I had
registered for the 12 hour race, but on we went. This race I had no
digestive problems, but must have started to get sick from something
because at 5pm I started to get cold at 75 to 80 degrees outside temps.
As night came I got colder and slowed down. The bugs along the river
for about 10 miles were so many that you could not open your mouth and
hoped that not too many went up your nose. As it got colder this batch
of bugs settled down. Just after sun up I got sleepy on lap 10 and had
to stop for a very short nap at a connivence store. After a few minutes
I got up to go a there was a freight train that I had to wait on to
cross the tracks. During these race you also have to stop for stop
sign, signal lights, etc. or get penalized and the 3rd time you get
disqualified from the race, so there were a few times I had to wait on
the signal lights to change to get through an intersection. After
finishing lap 10 at about 12 mph I found out that I was in 3rd place
for my age group, so I rode a little harder to get a few more mile than
one of the under 50 racers. Even though I did not feel too good and had
3.7 hours off the bike, I managed to get 3rd place in my age group and
8th place overall with 337 miles.

This also put me back in 1st place in my age group for the JMC
Ultracycling race series. John Guth and a few other racers are close to
me in points and we have 3 more months of racing to go. So far this
year we have raced about 1600 miles. My next race will be a 400 mile
event July 29 and then a 750 mile event which I hope to get done in
under 70 hours Aug 17, 18, 19.

See ya'll when my legs feel better. {:-)
Tony G


Begin forwarded message:

> ....... 
> .....
> In the Men's 50-59 division, Tony Goodnight took the lead in the
> points competition from John Guth.
> ..... 
> .... Grand Loop has been postponed to later in July which means that
> results are compete for all events through 08 July.
>  
> Here's to great racing!
>  
> Joe Jamison
> JMC Chair

#28 From: Tony Goodnight <tony.rg@...>
Date: Thu Jul 6, 2006 12:23 am
Subject: Re: Got yours?
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A little friendly competition is good at times!
See ya!
Tony G

On Jul 05, 2006, at 17:56, Rich Bruner wrote:

>  Personally, I can't ever stop this madness because Mike Dayton has
> just twelve less consecutive months than me. If I ever, EVER stop....
> well, I know he'll keep going just to get more than me! How's that for
> cheap motivation?!!!

#27 From: Rich Bruner <Bodhi60@...>
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 9:56 pm
Subject: Got yours?
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Okay, Okay!  I'll get mine this coming weekend.
Saturday will be the metric Roan Moan, but Sunday will be the Mitchell loop from
Celo. Weather should be perfect too.  Randy Raskin is heading to the Pisgah Inn
south of Asheville via the parkway.  I'll go with him as far as Asheville, then
loop through Weaverville, Beech Glenn and Paint Fork Gap back to Burnsville,
then on to Celo.

That should get my first hundred in for this month....

For the uninitiated, Getting at least one hundred mile ride in per month is a
great way to keep endurance training up, even when you don't really want to or
could easily find other excuses not to ride.  It makes all-weather riding a
necessity too at times!  This idea was started independently in Durham NC a few
years ago, Coincidentally the same year that the Big-Dogs (www.big-dogs.org)
opened their century competition to riders outside of Illinois and Indiana.  The
guys behind the Big-Dogs site are getting more active in organizing UMCA races
and other endurance rides.  A good place to log rides on-line too.

Personally, I can't ever stop this madness because Mike Dayton has just twelve
less consecutive months than me.  If I ever, EVER stop.... well, I know he'll
keep going just to get more than me!  How's that for cheap motivation?!!!

Rich

#26 From: mdayton <mdayton@...>
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: Blackbeard's Permanent ride report
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Jerry, nice write up. Thanks especially for once again reminding Rich that
we Got Ours.

Mike

>On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 10:41:47 -0400 "Phelps, Jerry (NIH/NIEHS) [E]"
<phelps@...> wrote.
>Blackbeard's Permanent - July 1, 2006

>

>

>

>Mike Dayton and I inaugurated his Blackbeard's Permanent this past weekend.

>Although Mike has ridden this route many times on his way to Hatteras

>Island, this was the first official ride of the permanent. Mike had crashed

>earlier in the week on his fixed gear and wasn't sure if he'd be able to

>ride.

>

>

>

>My wife Beth and I met Mike and Kelly at Café Luna Friday evening for
dinner

>and Mike filled us in on the details of the crash and his injuries, the
most

>troublesome of which was a sore hand.  He and Kelly (and Elsie) were kind

>enough to offer their spare bedroom so that I could catch a few hours sleep

>before our early departure. I was treated to the bicycle museum in his

>basement.  I can't wait for Beth to see it-hopefully she'll see that my

>desire for a measly 3rd bike is nothing compared to Mr. Dayton's 30 .  He

>also has a collection of saddles that Mr. Brooks would be jealous of.

>

>

>

>We left his home Saturday morning at about 3:06 AM. I was amazed at how

>active Raleigh was in the wee hours.  After negotiating the gauntlet of

>drunken revelers on Glenwood Avenue, witnessing a couple of drug deals, and

>a few propositions from the ladies of the evening, we rolled out of town

>towards Knightdale on Poole Road and into a different world where the only

>creatures we met were a kamikaze raccoon and a few deer.  We saw an apple

>red sunrise, which foretold the hot temps we would have later in the day.

>Traffic was very light and we made decent time to the first control in

>Stantonsburg at 7:25 AM and about 62 miles.

>

>

>

>The route skirts Wilson and Greenville and rolls along mostly on secondary

>country roads with little car traffic but lots of corn, soy beans, tobacco,

>and the ever-present eau de swine (gives a new meaning to toilet
water?)-the

>smell of big money in Eastern, NC.  We saw several riders that we assumed

>were on their regular Saturday morning rides out of Greenville. Near

>Grimesland, Mike called Rich Bruner to gloat over having his century for

>July already completed. The second control in Washington, the "Original" as

>local signs bespoke, was at 113 miles; we came in around 11 AM.  The heat

>index started rising quickly but with a little more than 60 miles to go we

>were confident.

>

>

>

>Outside of Washington, we joined Bike Route 2 and followed it for the rest

>of the day making navigating very easy. A long stop for lunch in Bath,

>reported home of Blackbeard and hence the name of the route, was a welcome

>respite, but the AC in the restaurant didn't quite produce the freezer-like

>conditions I was hoping for.  We pushed and pulled onward to Belhaven.

>Mike's aches and pains seemed to be under control thanks to Vicodin the

>night before and Ibuprofen during the ride. Although we had decided to

>forego the pursuit of County Line sprints, the shyster Dayton used

>approaching junctions as a ploy to keep me in the lead, but I didn't fall

>off the turnip truck yesterday. Another short stop in Belhaven, mostly to

>dump water on our heads, was followed by 28 hand and butt numbing miles of

>Highway 264 to the ferry in Swanquarter-by far the worst road on the trip,

>but the only option. We had our cards signed by the ferry ticket sales
clerk

>at 3:17 PM.

>

>

>

>Beth met us at the ferry with cold drinks and good food.  Mike, cleaned up

>and rested, boarded the ferry for the two-hour ride to Ocracoke followed by

>another 25 miles of riding interrupted by the 30-minute Ocracoke-Hatteras

>ferry. Beth and I backtracked to Belhaven where we spent the weekend at the

>Thistle Dew Inn.  Mike correctly guessed the origin of the Inn's name which

>comes from the owner's initial impression "This will do nicely." Belhaven
is

>a sleepy town that is about to go through a rough period of development..

>According to the inn keepers, it has only recently been discovered by

>coastal developers who are eager to build as many beach-style condos as

>possible.  Houses on Pantego Creek/Pungo River go for around $500k-about

>what each of the condos will sell for.  A four bedroom two bath house

>one-block inland on Main Street is listed fro $259,000.  Water is money.

>

>

>

>Stats of the ride:

>

>

>

>Cue Sheet Length 284 km - 176 miles

>

>Bonus miles - 1 (not bad for a new course)

>

>Total time - 12 hours 11 minutes - Average speed 14.5 MPH

>

>Total riding time - about 10 hours 15 minutes - Average speed 17.3 MPH

>

>Critters - 1 raccoon with suicidal tendencies, 6 deer, countless dogs, 1
UFA

>(unidentified four-legged animal), and about 20 dead snakes

>

>Bikes - Dayton (the wuss) - Fuji Team Issue, full carbon, 20 speed

>

>Phelps - Specialized Langster, aluminum/carbon, single-speed (48:16)

>

>

>

>

>

>Jerry Phelps

>

>

>

#25 From: <felix362@...>
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: Blackbeard's Permanent ride report
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Thanks for the ride description...
I plan on doing this ride July 29th...
How do I go about registering and paying the ride fee?

#24 From: "Phelps, Jerry \(NIH/NIEHS\) [E]" <phelps@...>
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 2:41 pm
Subject: Blackbeard's Permanent ride report
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Blackbeard’s Permanent – July 1, 2006

 

Mike Dayton and I inaugurated his Blackbeard’s Permanent this past weekend. Although Mike has ridden this route many times on his way to Hatteras Island, this was the first official ride of the permanent. Mike had crashed earlier in the week on his fixed gear and wasn’t sure if he’d be able to ride. 

 

My wife Beth and I met Mike and Kelly at Café Luna Friday evening for dinner and Mike filled us in on the details of the crash and his injuries, the most troublesome of which was a sore hand.  He and Kelly (and Elsie) were kind enough to offer their spare bedroom so that I could catch a few hours sleep before our early departure. I was treated to the bicycle museum in his basement.  I can’t wait for Beth to see it—hopefully she’ll see that my desire for a measly 3rd bike is nothing compared to Mr. Dayton’s 30+.  He also has a collection of saddles that Mr. Brooks would be jealous of.

 

We left his home Saturday morning at about 3:06 AM. I was amazed at how active Raleigh was in the wee hours.  After negotiating the gauntlet of drunken revelers on Glenwood Avenue, witnessing a couple of drug deals, and a few propositions from the ladies of the evening, we rolled out of town towards Knightdale on Poole Road and into a different world where the only creatures we met were a kamikaze raccoon and a few deer.  We saw an apple red sunrise, which foretold the hot temps we would have later in the day.  Traffic was very light and we made decent time to the first control in Stantonsburg at 7:25 AM and about 62 miles. 

 

The route skirts Wilson and Greenville and rolls along mostly on secondary country roads with little car traffic but lots of corn, soy beans, tobacco, and the ever-present eau de swine (gives a new meaning to toilet water?)—the smell of big money in Eastern, NC.  We saw several riders that we assumed were on their regular Saturday morning rides out of Greenville. Near Grimesland, Mike called Rich Bruner to gloat over having his century for July already completed. The second control in Washington, the “Original” as local signs bespoke, was at 113 miles; we came in around 11 AM.  The heat index started rising quickly but with a little more than 60 miles to go we were confident. 

 

Outside of Washington, we joined Bike Route 2 and followed it for the rest of the day making navigating very easy. A long stop for lunch in Bath, reported home of Blackbeard and hence the name of the route, was a welcome respite, but the AC in the restaurant didn’t quite produce the freezer-like conditions I was hoping for.  We pushed and pulled onward to Belhaven.  Mike’s aches and pains seemed to be under control thanks to Vicodin the night before and Ibuprofen during the ride. Although we had decided to forego the pursuit of County Line sprints, the shyster Dayton used approaching junctions as a ploy to keep me in the lead, but I didn’t fall off the turnip truck yesterday. Another short stop in Belhaven, mostly to dump water on our heads, was followed by 28 hand and butt numbing miles of Highway 264 to the ferry in Swanquarter—by far the worst road on the trip, but the only option. We had our cards signed by the ferry ticket sales clerk at 3:17 PM.

 

Beth met us at the ferry with cold drinks and good food.  Mike, cleaned up and rested, boarded the ferry for the two-hour ride to Ocracoke followed by another 25 miles of riding interrupted by the 30-minute Ocracoke-Hatteras ferry. Beth and I backtracked to Belhaven where we spent the weekend at the Thistle Dew Inn.  Mike correctly guessed the origin of the Inn’s name which comes from the owner’s initial impression “This will do nicely.” Belhaven is a sleepy town that is about to go through a rough period of development.  According to the inn keepers, it has only recently been discovered by coastal developers who are eager to build as many beach-style condos as possible.  Houses on Pantego Creek/Pungo River go for around $500k—about what each of the condos will sell for.  A four bedroom two bath house one-block inland on Main Street is listed fro $259,000.  Water is money.

 

Stats of the ride:

 

Cue Sheet Length 284 km – 176 miles

Bonus miles – 1 (not bad for a new course)

Total time – 12 hours 11 minutes – Average speed 14.5 MPH

Total riding time – about 10 hours 15 minutes – Average speed 17.3 MPH

Critters – 1 raccoon with suicidal tendencies, 6 deer, countless dogs, 1 UFA (unidentified four-legged animal), and about 20 dead snakes

Bikes – Dayton (the wuss) – Fuji Team Issue, full carbon, 20 speed

Phelps – Specialized Langster, aluminum/carbon, single-speed (48:16)

 

 

Jerry Phelps


#23 From: Tony Goodnight <tony.rg@...>
Date: Mon Jul 3, 2006 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: July 4th, Michigan & NY
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Hope ya'll have a great ride on the 4th!

I'm trying to do a mini taper this week since I have another 24 hour
race in NY this coming weekend July 8th. I'll be leaving early
Thursday.

It's been busy for me and I did not tell ya'll what happened at the 24
hour race in Michigan 2 weeks ago, so here is a brief report.
We (430 some racers) started at 8am on Saturday morning so it was a big
front group to the 1st check point at 34 miles where we had a 22.4 avg.
The first 20 or so through the check point managed to stay together
somewhat as the rest of us were try to get our numbers punched. I got
out with the second group of 12 or so and on we went to the next check
point at 72 miles. It went much faster getting punched, but I had to
get more water since I only had 2 bottles and the temps were 90 by
then. My stomach started to not do well, so my pace slowed a good bit.
At the next check point of 96 miles I soaked myself down with water and
went on to finish the 127 mile loop with a 18.8 avg. At that point we
got on a 23.7 mile loop. After 2  of those my stomach really let go and
I spent an hour in the bathroom. At 7:30pm we got on a 7.5 mile night
loop. After eating some real food and drinking some more fluids to
replace what came out in the bathroom, I started to feel better, so for
about 3 hours I was able to ride just under 20 mph avg. Then I ate
something that did not agree with me and back to the bathroom again.
When I was feeling good I could ride with the guys that won the age
group below me and the one that got 3rd in my age group. At the finish
I had managed to get 324 miles which put me in 8th for the 50-54 age
group of 54 racers in that group and 24th place overall. After I got
back home I figured out which food it was that was flushing me out and
will use different food for the Saratoga 24 hour race which is on a 32
mile loop but drafting is not allowed for the Saratoga race.
I'm in there somewhere!

Have a great 4th of July
Tony G

#22 From: Tony Goodnight <tony.rg@...>
Date: Sun Jul 2, 2006 12:48 pm
Subject: Fwd: PTNY ride - Erie Canal total 450 ride, and there and back transportation
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Please reply directly to "charles fox" <foxiecharles@...> if
interested!

Begin forwarded message:

>
> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:40:54 -0400
> From: "charles fox" <foxiecharles@...>
> Subject: PTNY ride - Erie Canal total 450 ride, and there and back
> transportation
>
>
>
> pls pls pls pass this out - due to critical changes at work, i can not
> go
>
> have two entries to the CYCLING THE ERIE CANAL
>
> this is one of my five "have to do rides"
>
> it includes a van ride up there and back, (operated by Dave Sanderson)
>
> total fees are 495 each for entry into the Erie Canal Ride, plus 160
> for gas
> and van there and back - total 655  each... will sell for 450 each
>
> for info go to ptny.org/biketourintro/index.shtml web site (need to
> put www
> in front of the info to left- if in made it a link the yahoo would not
> pass
> allow the email to go thru)
>
> An eight-day, 400-mile bicycle tour from Buffalo to Albany along the
> historic and scenic Erie Canal. The 2006 Cycling the Erie Canal bike
> tour
> will take place July 9 -16, 2006.
>
> plans are to depart so we can bicycle the Niagra Falls and other
> highlights
> on the 8th
>
> plans to stop in Wash, DC on way back and cycle there a half day, and
> be
> back on 7/18
>
> let me know if you want these two entries at $450 each...
>
> here is the registration form, but the ride director says we can
> transfer my
> entry if i send a memo or letter with you...
> ptny.org/pdfs/canaltour/registration2006.pdf (pls putt www. in front)
>
> thank you for passing this along
>
> Charles Fox
> P O Box 70815
> Chas, SC 29415
>
> 843.303.3334 - cell
> fax 740.7206

#21 From: "senor.pibb" <mdayton@...>
Date: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
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Yo A, your company is always appreciated.


--- In ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Hands" <aeh@...>
wrote:
>
> 16th is good for me--need a "sweep"?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Rick Hays
> Sent: Tue 6/27/2006 7:39 AM
> To: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ncrandoncyclists] Re: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
>
> sounds like a nice route.  i believe the 16th works for me if y'all
are
> interested in company.  rick
>
>
> >From: "senor.pibb" <mdayton@...>
> >Reply-To: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com
> >To: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [ncrandoncyclists] Re: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
> >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:19:38 -0000
> >
> >Tom, probably a weekend or 2 after Labor Day. The 9th or 16th are
> >possibilities.
> >
> >While that will be my first official ride, the route has been
> >approved, so it's now open to one and all.
> >
> >Those knowledgeable about the North Raleigh riding will immediatly
> >realize the genius of its starting point on New Light Rd. It's at
the
> >TOP of the hill above Falls Lake. The route is mostly flat,
although
> >there's the one climb up from the Tar River, and the route dips
down
> >and back up on several coves around Kerr Lake.
> >
> >There's a good deal of chip-and-seal on the Virginia side of the
> >route, so a little bumpy but it is rural riding at its best. There
> >are restaurants in Boydton and Clarksville.
> >
> >I'll keep you posted on the ride date.
> >
> >Thanks, Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com, Tom Marchand <M0rchand@>
> >wrote:
> > >
> > > I wouldn't mind riding it myself.  What part of Sept are you
> >looking at?
> > >
> > > On Jun 26, 2006, at 7:01 PM, senor.pibb wrote:
> > >
> > > > Greetings, NC/SC randonneurs.
> > > >
> > > > I've just received an e-mail from Robert Fry, RUSA's
permanents
> > > > coordinator, informing me he has approved my second route.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.rusa.org/cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=143
> > > >
> > > > This is a 208k that begins near Falls Lake, in North Raleigh
and
> > > > heads north into Virginia, following Bike Route 1, to circle
Kerr
> > > > Lake (known as Buggs Island Lake on the Virginia side). Riders
> >cross
> > > > the massive Kerr Dam before heading into historic Boydton and
the
> > > > lake resort town of Clarksville. The route then begins the
loop
> >south
> > > > back toward Oxford and into Raleigh. Most of the route is on
> >scenic
> > > > rural roads. The quiet country lanes on the Virginia portion
of
> >the
> > > > route make for exceptional cycling.
> > > >
> > > > I'll likely do my first official ride of it in September, if
> >anyone
> > > > is interested.
> > > >
> > > > Permanents count as RUSA miles and can be used when applying
for
> > > > RUSA's R-12 Award (a 200K or more for 12 months in a row).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Mike
> > > >
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#20 From: "senor.pibb" <mdayton@...>
Date: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
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Jerry, the route skirts Oxford, so we don't really go into town. Too
bad, that one street with the big houses is amazing.

Maybe we should all read "Blood Done Sign My Name" before the ride --
sort of a book/bike club.


--- In ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com, "Phelps, Jerry \(NIH/NIEHS\)
[E]" <phelps@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike:
>
> Congrats on the permanent.  My sister lives on College Street in
Oxford
> so depending on the route, we might be able to make her house an
> 'unofficial' control.
>
> I was wondering if you might be interested in riding that awesomely
> challenging 200k that Audax Atlanta has in September?  Something
like
> 22,000 feet of climbing in 200km.  And maybe we could save your new
> permanent for October?
>
> See you Friday,
>
> jp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: senor.pibb [mailto:mdayton@...]
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:01 PM
> To: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ncrandoncyclists] North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
>
> Greetings, NC/SC randonneurs.
>
> I've just received an e-mail from Robert Fry, RUSA's permanents
> coordinator, informing me he has approved my second route.
>
> http://www.rusa.org/cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=143
>
> This is a 208k that begins near Falls Lake, in North Raleigh and
> heads north into Virginia, following Bike Route 1, to circle Kerr
> Lake (known as Buggs Island Lake on the Virginia side). Riders
cross
> the massive Kerr Dam before heading into historic Boydton and the
> lake resort town of Clarksville. The route then begins the loop
south
> back toward Oxford and into Raleigh. Most of the route is on scenic
> rural roads. The quiet country lanes on the Virginia portion of the
> route make for exceptional cycling.
>
> I'll likely do my first official ride of it in September, if anyone
> is interested.
>
> Permanents count as RUSA miles and can be used when applying for
> RUSA's R-12 Award (a 200K or more for 12 months in a row).
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

#19 From: "Phelps, Jerry \(NIH/NIEHS\) [E]" <phelps@...>
Date: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:13 pm
Subject: RE: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
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Hi Mike:

Congrats on the permanent.  My sister lives on College Street in Oxford
so depending on the route, we might be able to make her house an
'unofficial' control.

I was wondering if you might be interested in riding that awesomely
challenging 200k that Audax Atlanta has in September?  Something like
22,000 feet of climbing in 200km.  And maybe we could save your new
permanent for October?

See you Friday,

jp

-----Original Message-----
From: senor.pibb [mailto:mdayton@...]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:01 PM
To: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ncrandoncyclists] North Carolina's 2nd Permanent

Greetings, NC/SC randonneurs.

I've just received an e-mail from Robert Fry, RUSA's permanents
coordinator, informing me he has approved my second route.

http://www.rusa.org/cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=143

This is a 208k that begins near Falls Lake, in North Raleigh and
heads north into Virginia, following Bike Route 1, to circle Kerr
Lake (known as Buggs Island Lake on the Virginia side). Riders cross
the massive Kerr Dam before heading into historic Boydton and the
lake resort town of Clarksville. The route then begins the loop south
back toward Oxford and into Raleigh. Most of the route is on scenic
rural roads. The quiet country lanes on the Virginia portion of the
route make for exceptional cycling.

I'll likely do my first official ride of it in September, if anyone
is interested.

Permanents count as RUSA miles and can be used when applying for
RUSA's R-12 Award (a 200K or more for 12 months in a row).

Thanks, Mike








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#18 From: "Adrian Hands" <aeh@...>
Date: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:18 pm
Subject: RE: Re: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
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16th is good for me--need a "sweep"?


-----Original Message-----
From: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Rick Hays
Sent: Tue 6/27/2006 7:39 AM
To: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ncrandoncyclists] Re: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent

sounds like a nice route.  i believe the 16th works for me if y'all are
interested in company.  rick


>From: "senor.pibb" <mdayton@...>
>Reply-To: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com
>To: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ncrandoncyclists] Re: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
>Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:19:38 -0000
>
>Tom, probably a weekend or 2 after Labor Day. The 9th or 16th are
>possibilities.
>
>While that will be my first official ride, the route has been
>approved, so it's now open to one and all.
>
>Those knowledgeable about the North Raleigh riding will immediatly
>realize the genius of its starting point on New Light Rd. It's at the
>TOP of the hill above Falls Lake. The route is mostly flat, although
>there's the one climb up from the Tar River, and the route dips down
>and back up on several coves around Kerr Lake.
>
>There's a good deal of chip-and-seal on the Virginia side of the
>route, so a little bumpy but it is rural riding at its best. There
>are restaurants in Boydton and Clarksville.
>
>I'll keep you posted on the ride date.
>
>Thanks, Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>--- In ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com, Tom Marchand <M0rchand@...>
>wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't mind riding it myself.  What part of Sept are you
>looking at?
> >
> > On Jun 26, 2006, at 7:01 PM, senor.pibb wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings, NC/SC randonneurs.
> > >
> > > I've just received an e-mail from Robert Fry, RUSA's permanents
> > > coordinator, informing me he has approved my second route.
> > >
> > > http://www.rusa.org/cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=143
> > >
> > > This is a 208k that begins near Falls Lake, in North Raleigh and
> > > heads north into Virginia, following Bike Route 1, to circle Kerr
> > > Lake (known as Buggs Island Lake on the Virginia side). Riders
>cross
> > > the massive Kerr Dam before heading into historic Boydton and the
> > > lake resort town of Clarksville. The route then begins the loop
>south
> > > back toward Oxford and into Raleigh. Most of the route is on
>scenic
> > > rural roads. The quiet country lanes on the Virginia portion of
>the
> > > route make for exceptional cycling.
> > >
> > > I'll likely do my first official ride of it in September, if
>anyone
> > > is interested.
> > >
> > > Permanents count as RUSA miles and can be used when applying for
> > > RUSA's R-12 Award (a 200K or more for 12 months in a row).
> > >
> > > Thanks, Mike
> > >
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#17 From: "Rick Hays" <rickhays@...>
Date: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:39 am
Subject: RE: Re: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
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sounds like a nice route.  i believe the 16th works for me if y'all are
interested in company.  rick


>From: "senor.pibb" <mdayton@...>
>Reply-To: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com
>To: ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ncrandoncyclists] Re: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
>Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:19:38 -0000
>
>Tom, probably a weekend or 2 after Labor Day. The 9th or 16th are
>possibilities.
>
>While that will be my first official ride, the route has been
>approved, so it's now open to one and all.
>
>Those knowledgeable about the North Raleigh riding will immediatly
>realize the genius of its starting point on New Light Rd. It's at the
>TOP of the hill above Falls Lake. The route is mostly flat, although
>there's the one climb up from the Tar River, and the route dips down
>and back up on several coves around Kerr Lake.
>
>There's a good deal of chip-and-seal on the Virginia side of the
>route, so a little bumpy but it is rural riding at its best. There
>are restaurants in Boydton and Clarksville.
>
>I'll keep you posted on the ride date.
>
>Thanks, Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>--- In ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com, Tom Marchand <M0rchand@...>
>wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't mind riding it myself.  What part of Sept are you
>looking at?
> >
> > On Jun 26, 2006, at 7:01 PM, senor.pibb wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings, NC/SC randonneurs.
> > >
> > > I've just received an e-mail from Robert Fry, RUSA's permanents
> > > coordinator, informing me he has approved my second route.
> > >
> > > http://www.rusa.org/cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=143
> > >
> > > This is a 208k that begins near Falls Lake, in North Raleigh and
> > > heads north into Virginia, following Bike Route 1, to circle Kerr
> > > Lake (known as Buggs Island Lake on the Virginia side). Riders
>cross
> > > the massive Kerr Dam before heading into historic Boydton and the
> > > lake resort town of Clarksville. The route then begins the loop
>south
> > > back toward Oxford and into Raleigh. Most of the route is on
>scenic
> > > rural roads. The quiet country lanes on the Virginia portion of
>the
> > > route make for exceptional cycling.
> > >
> > > I'll likely do my first official ride of it in September, if
>anyone
> > > is interested.
> > >
> > > Permanents count as RUSA miles and can be used when applying for
> > > RUSA's R-12 Award (a 200K or more for 12 months in a row).
> > >
> > > Thanks, Mike
> > >
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#16 From: "senor.pibb" <mdayton@...>
Date: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:19 am
Subject: Re: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
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Tom, probably a weekend or 2 after Labor Day. The 9th or 16th are
possibilities.

While that will be my first official ride, the route has been
approved, so it's now open to one and all.

Those knowledgeable about the North Raleigh riding will immediatly
realize the genius of its starting point on New Light Rd. It's at the
TOP of the hill above Falls Lake. The route is mostly flat, although
there's the one climb up from the Tar River, and the route dips down
and back up on several coves around Kerr Lake.

There's a good deal of chip-and-seal on the Virginia side of the
route, so a little bumpy but it is rural riding at its best. There
are restaurants in Boydton and Clarksville.

I'll keep you posted on the ride date.

Thanks, Mike





--- In ncrandoncyclists@yahoogroups.com, Tom Marchand <M0rchand@...>
wrote:
>
> I wouldn't mind riding it myself.  What part of Sept are you
looking at?
>
> On Jun 26, 2006, at 7:01 PM, senor.pibb wrote:
>
> > Greetings, NC/SC randonneurs.
> >
> > I've just received an e-mail from Robert Fry, RUSA's permanents
> > coordinator, informing me he has approved my second route.
> >
> > http://www.rusa.org/cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=143
> >
> > This is a 208k that begins near Falls Lake, in North Raleigh and
> > heads north into Virginia, following Bike Route 1, to circle Kerr
> > Lake (known as Buggs Island Lake on the Virginia side). Riders
cross
> > the massive Kerr Dam before heading into historic Boydton and the
> > lake resort town of Clarksville. The route then begins the loop
south
> > back toward Oxford and into Raleigh. Most of the route is on
scenic
> > rural roads. The quiet country lanes on the Virginia portion of
the
> > route make for exceptional cycling.
> >
> > I'll likely do my first official ride of it in September, if
anyone
> > is interested.
> >
> > Permanents count as RUSA miles and can be used when applying for
> > RUSA's R-12 Award (a 200K or more for 12 months in a row).
> >
> > Thanks, Mike
> >
> >
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#15 From: Tom Marchand <M0rchand@...>
Date: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:26 am
Subject: Re: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
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I wouldn't mind riding it myself.  What part of Sept are you looking at?

On Jun 26, 2006, at 7:01 PM, senor.pibb wrote:

> Greetings, NC/SC randonneurs.
>
> I've just received an e-mail from Robert Fry, RUSA's permanents
> coordinator, informing me he has approved my second route.
>
> http://www.rusa.org/cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=143
>
> This is a 208k that begins near Falls Lake, in North Raleigh and
> heads north into Virginia, following Bike Route 1, to circle Kerr
> Lake (known as Buggs Island Lake on the Virginia side). Riders cross
> the massive Kerr Dam before heading into historic Boydton and the
> lake resort town of Clarksville. The route then begins the loop south
> back toward Oxford and into Raleigh. Most of the route is on scenic
> rural roads. The quiet country lanes on the Virginia portion of the
> route make for exceptional cycling.
>
> I'll likely do my first official ride of it in September, if anyone
> is interested.
>
> Permanents count as RUSA miles and can be used when applying for
> RUSA's R-12 Award (a 200K or more for 12 months in a row).
>
> Thanks, Mike
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#14 From: "senor.pibb" <mdayton@...>
Date: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:12 pm
Subject: Cascade 1200
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The Cascade 1200 is going on right now and this year the Seattle crowd
is doing a blog. Check it out here. It's a great read.

http://www.c1200blog.randonista.com/

Looks there have been a good many abandons, in part owing to a hot
spell in the desert area. The North Carolina crew got a taste of that
heat last year in the Rattlesnake Hills of western Washington. It was
like riding through a brick oven.

Many of the rotating pictures at the top of the blog were taken in 2005
by our very own Capn John Ende, including that real beauty of two
riders climbing up Washington Pass.

Mike

#13 From: "senor.pibb" <mdayton@...>
Date: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:01 pm
Subject: North Carolina's 2nd Permanent
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Greetings, NC/SC randonneurs.

I've just received an e-mail from Robert Fry, RUSA's permanents
coordinator, informing me he has approved my second route.

http://www.rusa.org/cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=143

This is a 208k that begins near Falls Lake, in North Raleigh and
heads north into Virginia, following Bike Route 1, to circle Kerr
Lake (known as Buggs Island Lake on the Virginia side). Riders cross
the massive Kerr Dam before heading into historic Boydton and the
lake resort town of Clarksville. The route then begins the loop south
back toward Oxford and into Raleigh. Most of the route is on scenic
rural roads. The quiet country lanes on the Virginia portion of the
route make for exceptional cycling.

I'll likely do my first official ride of it in September, if anyone
is interested.

Permanents count as RUSA miles and can be used when applying for
RUSA's R-12 Award (a 200K or more for 12 months in a row).

Thanks, Mike

#12 From: "Adrian Hands" <aeh@...>
Date: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:03 pm
Subject: La Marmotte
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#11 From: "Adrian Hands" <aeh@...>
Date: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:43 pm
Subject: SVS-2006 about to begin
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The Bulgarian 1200km (SVS) starts in a couple hours (Wed 9pm EDT; Thu
4am BG).

RUSA member Joan Donohue will be riding, along with randonneurs from
Denmark, France, Sweden, the UK and 16 Bulgarians (27 starters).
Joan rode our 600km (Morrisville-Wilmington) a couple of weeks back, to
get some practice riding long brevets in the rain.
She wanted rain and our 600km delivered!

There's a web-cam at the start this year:
http://eye.sliven.net/


http://svs-cycling.s5.com/

#10 From: "Adrian Hands" <aeh@...>
Date: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:48 pm
Subject: D2R2 reg open
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Deerfield dirt road randonnee

Sandy Whittlesey's and Don Podolski's Deerfield Dirt Road Randonnee
(D2R2) - in its 2nd year - is now open for registration via BikeReg.com.
Here's the link from Don's LBS website describing the ride and linking
to the bikereg.com registration page as well as other helpful
information:

http://newhorizonsbikes.com/page.cfm?PageID=347

This is the century with more than 11k feet of climbing on centuries-old
unpaved roads through fields and woods in the Berkshires in MA and VT.
There are 2 distances to choose from: 170k starting at 6am, and 100k
starting at 8am, on Saturday Aug 26.

See you there!
Chuck










#9 From: "Phelps, Jerry \(NIH/NIEHS\) [E]" <phelps@...>
Date: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:40 pm
Subject: RE: National 24 Hour Challenge
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Tony:

Best of luck and let us know how you do!!

Jerry Phelps

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Subject: [ncrandoncyclists] National 24 Hour Challenge

I'm on my way the National 24 Hour Challenge in Middleville, Michigan
for this Saturday.
http://www.n24hc.org/
I'll be back next week.

Ya'll have fun!
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#8 From: "Tony RG" <tony_rg@...>
Date: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:22 am
Subject: National 24 Hour Challenge
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I'm on my way the National 24 Hour Challenge in Middleville, Michigan for this
Saturday.
http://www.n24hc.org/
I'll be back next week.

Ya'll have fun!
Tony G
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NC Randon Cyclists

#7 From: mdayton <mdayton@...>
Date: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:55 pm
Subject: Re: [N&O] Cyclist pedals on and on and ...
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As luck would have it, I met him yesterday as he wheeled his bike up
Fayetteville St. Mall. I knew he was a distance rider by the look of his
bike, so I chatted him up for a minute and he told me all the
countries/states he'd been through. I didn't realize he was low on funds or
I'd have contributed to the cause.

Not a record, but impressive. Adrian, you, on the other hand, must hold the
local record for largest percentage of allowed time used per brevet...

Mike

>On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:04:42 -0400 Adrian Hands <aeh@...> wrote.
>Record?

>

>http://forum.ncbikeclub.info/index.php?board=1;topic=342.0#msg1153

>

>

>

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Date: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:04 pm
Subject: [N&O] Cyclist pedals on and on and ...
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#5 From: "senor.pibb" <mdayton@...>
Date: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: Permanents in SC (& NC)
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Tony,

Thanks for getting this list started. May it thrive and bring greater
unity to our riders in NC and SC.

Bethany, thanks for the SC rides you put on. My card from the 200K
arrived yesterday, and it brought back sweet and painful memories of
the climb up Caeser's Head. Here's hoping you put on a full series
next year. Anyone with an eye on PBP 07 should consider Bethany's SC
rides, particularly if she opts for the hillier routes that have been
used in past years.

On the NC permanents front, an update:

1) The first official ride of Blackbeard's Permanent has been
scheduled for July 1. I'll be riding it, and one other rider has also
signed on. Time to be announced shortly, but it will be AFTER
midnight to make it a July ride which can be counted toward the
ultimate goal of the R-12 award. See www.rusa.org for details on
that. If you have interest in joining us, please e-mail, as I'll have
to prepare your card.

I'm heading on to my ultimate goal of Frisco, on Hatteras Island. The
other rider is ending his trip in Swan Quarter. If others are
interested in joining us, please let me know, but keep in mind this
is not an out-and-back, but a point-to-point, meaning you'll either
have to ride home or arrange transportation. The pace is likely to be
around 15 mph real time, 17-18 on the bike.

2) An out-of-state rider has expressed interest in riding
Blackbeard's Permanent. He is scheduled to ride it on July 29. I'm
delighted to have this interest in the route.

3) As I said in the e-mail that Tony posted, I'm working on a Lake
Loop 200K. I'll try to have that approved so it can be ridden for
RUSA credit by September.

An aside: I think one of the subscribers to this list is Mark Thomas
with Seattle International Randonneurers in Washington state. (Capn
John Ende and I did SIR's epic Cascade 1200 last year. A highly
recommended ride for folks who like hills and deserts and gorges. And
more hills.) Mark is a fantastic guy, a strong rider and the current
president of RUSA, our national governing body. My guess is Mark
monitors this and other lists to get a feel for randonneuring in
different corners of the country. If you have suggestions about how
RUSA can be improved, etc., this will be a good place to post.

Mike




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>
> About a year ago, I designed several permanent routes for the
upstate
> of SC. When asked if I'd take over as SC RBA, the routes were put
on
> hold for a while. The plan is to have several routes around SC
listed
> with RUSA by this Fall. Glad to hear that you are looking for NC
> routes. I think the southeast randonneurs can benefit by having
> available permanents.
>
> Bethany
>

#4 From: "B Davison" <greenforestsc@...>
Date: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:34 pm
Subject: Permanents in SC
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About a year ago, I designed several permanent routes for the upstate
of SC. When asked if I'd take over as SC RBA, the routes were put on
hold for a while. The plan is to have several routes around SC listed
with RUSA by this Fall. Glad to hear that you are looking for NC
routes. I think the southeast randonneurs can benefit by having
available permanents.

Bethany

#3 From: Tony Goodnight <tony_rg@...>
Date: Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:16 pm
Subject: Fwd: Permanents in NC -- an idea whose time has come
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Mike Dayton" <mdayton@...>
> Date: June 12, 2006 9:11:50 EDT
>
> Subject: Permanents in NC -- an idea whose time has come
>
>
> Greetings, fellow randonneurs. Great seeing everybody out there on
> this year’s brevet series in NC and SC. We’re now out of events until
> next spring, when we all begin our qualifying for PBP 07.
>  
> So what can we do locally in the meantime to stay in shape AND earn
> RUSA miles? The answer is permanents. See:
>  
> http://www.rusa.org/perminfo.html
>  
> Among the bunch of us, we should be able to come up with a half-dozen
> or more qualifying routes and get them approved by Robert Fry, RUSA’s
> permanents coordinator. Once we do that we’ll be able to meet our goal
> of a century a month AND work toward the R-12 Award, which you earn by
> doing at least one 200K per month for 12 months in a row. I currently
> have a streak of 200K + events dating back to March and hope to extend
> that streak through the rest of the year by doing some out-of-state
> events as well as local permanents.
>  
> Currently, we have one permanent – the one I designed from Raleigh to
> Swan Quarter for my annual ride out to the Outer Banks.
>  
> http://www.rusa.org/cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=58
>  
>  I’m planning to do that ride July 1, btw, if anyone is interested.
> It’s 175 or so miles. It’s a great route that actually is a double
> century, as once I leave the permanent I do another 25 miles or so out
> to the Lighthouse. This is a NIGHT ride, so good training with lights.
> The trick is to catch the 4 pm. Ferry to Ocracoke. I usually leave
> around 3-4 a.m. (There are rules about inviting others to do a
> permanent as a scheduled event; I’ll check with Robert about this.)
>  
> I’m going to submit another permanent to Robert this week – the LAKE
> Loop, a 200K from North Raleigh, around Kerr Lake through Boydton and
> Clarksville, Va. and back down to North Raleigh. It’s a loop with a
> 20-mil spur. Several of you have done the loop with me. Really
> pleasant, rural riding with a couple restaurants along the way.
>  
> We can also use existing brevet routes for permanents but I’d prefer
> to come up with new routes. I believe you can ride a permanent more
> than once in a year and count it toward the R-12 award.
>  
> If you’re interested, get busy. Let’s get some permanent routes in the
> works, in different parts of the state so that we can stay in shape in
> the off-season and get credit toward RUSA awards, all with an eye
> toward PBP 07.
>  
> If you’d like to see the application I submitted to Robert, let me
> know and I’ll forward. It should help in your own planning. Also, I
> wrote a story about it for the August or November 2005 newsletter.
>  
> I don’t have all of the NC rando riders’ e-mail. Please forward around.
>  
> Thanks, Mike.

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Date: Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:26 pm
Subject: Ragbrai
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check out www.ragbrai.com  see if you recognize the guy hold up the
tandem on the main page.

#1 From: "Tony RG" <tony_rg@...>
Date: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:57 pm
Subject: Welcome
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Hello All

Hope that you will enjoy this list and use it well!

Please be polite and use family language in your posts!

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