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Re: [NBA Hangout] Rating the recent trades

You know I have to try and spin this deal to those
who don't understand. Small ball or run & gun, however
you like to put it, has not and will not win a
championship. It relies too much on your shooters
making their shots through a 100 game stretch,
including preseason and playoffs. And I include the
preseason because you have to get conditioned to play
that frenetic pace.
With the additon of Gasol, there are three possible
matchups with teams that were extremely unfavorable.
With the Spurs, although not as athletic, they boast
two 7 footers that can play together, as well as
Dallas. And the Lakers have to very skilled, athletic
7 footers. Imagine trying to get enough rebounds vs
those front lines with a center (that's really a pf)
that's 6'10" and a pf (that's a sf) who's 6'7". And
there's no way in hell that Brian Skinner is the
answer.
Throw in the fact that Marion was unhappy because he
wanted a max deal and not be the third wheel, we had
to get something for him before he opted out, which he
will. Banks never won the confidence of D'Antoni and
was making too much to be the third pg. So address the
size need and team chemistry before the All-Star
break.
We really need Shaq to be a presence in the middle
defensively. Just don't try to draw charges. He's
still a great rebounder, when healthy, and can ignite
the break. When the game slows down, when Nash is
resting, we can let Shaq become a playmaker. There's a
possibility that won't work. But there's also a
possibility it will. Even if it was desperation.
--- Jesse <spursfansa@...> wrote:

> I can't help but see the Shaq move as a desperate
> one for Phoenix. I am curious to find out what Edgar
> has to say. Yes the Gasol move was one sided, but I
> do not see it getting LA to the promised land. This
> years WC playoffs is once again going to be great.
> The East well..
>
> I do have to admit that Boston is playing very
> well. I would be worried about Gatnett's stomach.
> Those pulls can linger.
>
>
>
> jdbball <jdbball@...> wrote:
> Memphis grade D- gets:
> Kwame Brown (TR) $9,075,000 1 yrs
> + Javaris Crittenton (TR) $1,285,200 2yrs
> + 2 1st round picks
> vs LA grade A+
> Pau Gasol (TR) $13,735,000 4 yrs
> High way robbery for LA, Gasol is a great talent and
> they got him for
> next to nothing. The 2 picks are ok for Memphis but
> they will be very
> late picks because LA just became a contender. The
> cap room was a
> smart move but one wonders if they couldnt have
> gotten more.
>
> Memphis grade F-
> Jason Collins (TR) $6,100,000 2
> vs NJ grade B
> Stromile Swift (TR) $5,800,000 1
> Nets win this deal, they gamble on Swift a bit who
> could be useful
> for them with Krstic hurting. However they lose his
> 6 mill contract
> and saved another 6 on the terrible deal Collins
> had. Pretty nice
> start now only need to trade Kidd (and ideally
> carter)for expiring
> contracts and you got a solid rebuilding team. (Kidd
> is old unlike
> Gasol) For Memphis this trade is absolutely retarded
> as they lose 6
> million capspace they just traded for with
> Gasol......
>
> Miami grade A+
> Shawn Marion
> Salary: $16,440,000 Years Remaining: 2
> Marcus Banks
> Salary: $3,966,207 Years Remaining: 4
> VS Phoenix C
> Shaquille O'Neal
> Salary: $20,000,000 Years Remaining: 3
> Miami gets a great great player in Marion. He does
> it all in a
> Scottie Pippen type way and doesnt get enough
> credit. Banks is a
> solid point who could see more playing time in
> Miami. Phoenix takes a
> HUGE HUGE gamble on Shaq as the missing piece for
> the championship.
> Can he hold up for one more run? I dont think so but
> dont hold it
> beyond shaq. Can he run with the Suns? Hell no but
> Amare will. Very
> interested to see how this works out. If they dont
> win it's a
> complete disaster. 60 million is a ton of money for
> an old shaq.
>
> Don't look now but Miami can offer 4 expiring
> contracts straight up
> for Kidd. They would be solid next season or even
> make a run for the
> playoffs with a line up: Blount, Haslem, Marion,
> Wade, Kidd with
> Ricky Davis, Quin and Banks of the bench
>
> this is the deal
> New Jersey Nets
>
> Incoming Players
> Dorell Wright
> Salary: $2,040,746 Years Remaining: 1
> PTS: 7.4 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.2
>
> Jason Williams
> Salary: $8,937,500 Years Remaining: 1
> PTS: 8.9 REB: 2.1 AST: 4.9
>
> Alonzo Mourning
> Salary: $2,762,500 Years Remaining: 1
> PTS: 6.0 REB: 3.8 AST: 0.3
>
> Smush Parker
> Salary: $2,250,000 Years Remaining: 1
> PTS: 4.8 REB: 2.1 AST: 1.7
>
> Outgoing Players: Jason Kidd
> Miami Heat
>
> Incoming Players
> Jason Kidd
> Salary: $19,728,000 Years Remaining: 2
> PTS: 11.1 REB: 8.1 AST: 10.4
>
> New Jersey would cut Mourning right away and have to
> move/waive 2
> other players
>
>
>
>
>
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Memphis grade D- gets: Kwame Brown (TR) $9,075,000 1 yrs + Javaris Crittenton (TR) $1,285,200 2yrs + 2 1st round picks vs LA grade A+ Pau Gasol (TR)...
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Feb 7, 2008
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I can't help but see the Shaq move as a desperate one for Phoenix. I am curious to find out what Edgar has to say. Yes the Gasol move was one sided, but I do...
Jesse
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Feb 7, 2008
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well, generally I think that the Suns made a good deal.They don't have to slow down for shaq because they had done very well with only two or three players...

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Feb 7, 2008
2:42 am

You know I have to try and spin this deal to those who don't understand. Small ball or run & gun, however you like to put it, has not and will not win a ...
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