I am going to be doing some Red/Blue/Skills Loops (or something like that) on
Wednesday 4th July to celebrate independence day..

Not really, I am going down with nine folk from my office, most of whom have
never been on a mountain bike so should be an experience.

Anyone fancy coming along to help out on Wednesday afternoon?

13:15 @ The hub

Cheers


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Leaving about 8.30 to be there at 9.30, can give two people a lift if it helps?

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Alasdair wrote:
>
> It's a piss easy job especially given the number of times it has to be done!


Must admit that I have no cause to level any criticism at the Juicy 5's that
I've got on two bikes, and the wife's. They've been reliable and the only issue
I've had is indeed replacing pads - you just have to use strong language to get
the pistons retracted, and some makes of pad can be easier than others. Also
helps to use a small file to smooth the 'ramp' that engages with the retaining
nipples on the pistons as you slide the new pads in.

The Hope Mono Mini's that I used to have, on the other hand... [Evil or Very
Mad]

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househusband wrote:
> I've got an Avid bleed kit and some fluid.
>
>  - it's a piss-easy job.
>
>


Andy - I've got one too. It's a piss easy job especially given the number of
times it has to be done!

One word of warning - the bladders are made of cheese, and burst really easily.
If your system appears to be intact yet won't give you any power, submerse the
whole thing and look for bubbles.




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David - I've got an Avid bleed kit and some fluid. Welcome to pop round with the
bike and I'll (we'll!) do it - it's a piss-easy job.

(In fact this evening would be a pretty good time to do it.)

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Good to meet you too mate.

Shame you and Al had bus trouble, but a good job for me we didn't
stay around for another - very tender head today. Probably not
unrelated to that last pint of Old Peculiar.

Mark


Mark Lister
Coaching for men and self-employed people
http://www.markthecoach.co.uk
http://www.FatherOfTheManBlog.blogspot.com


On 29 Jun 2007, at 09:44, Daveb wrote:

> That was a good night last night, I managed to miss my bus by about
> 10 seconds, thought I was going to have to wait 45 mins for the
> next one but it was a wee bit nearer to 30 mins.
>
> Bit tired this morning [Rolling Eyes]
>
> Nice to meet you Mark
>
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That was a good night last night, I managed to miss my bus by about 10 seconds,
thought I was going to have to wait 45 mins for the next one but it was a wee
bit nearer to 30 mins.

Bit tired this morning [Rolling Eyes]

Nice to meet you Mark

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Epic Comp frame for sale

color Carbon gray
looking for £250 o.n.o.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7295756@N07/654509854/

I had the frame from new, needs new cartridge bearings (about £50), has cable
rube in the usual places, also has a few scratches but no dents, the Brain shock
is as good as new and was serviced recently.

One other point a note is that the bottom screw hole for the replaceable
derailleur hanger was damaged after the mech hanger was ripped off, but it has
not affected the working of the mech (I ran it for a about 18 months no
problems). It's a known issue with all 2004 Specialized bikes, they where
drilled to close to the edge of the frame. The top screw is fine, the bottom
screw still screws in, and the wheel quick release physically takes all the
load.

Also comes with the original headset with good cartridge bearings, and original
seat binder, and seat post

any more questions just ask, I'm going to strip the bike the weekend and will
post better photos if anyone's interested, looking for £250 o.n.o. or £300
o.n.o. with new cartridge bearings


FRAME
FSR technology, 1/2-lb (220g) lighter for 04, optimized for Brain shock, M4
Alloy fully butted and manipulated frame w/ ORE DT, sealed cartridge bearings,
disc only, 90mm travel, replaceable derailleur hanger
REAR SHOCK
Specialized Brain shock, manufactured by Fox Racing Shox, air spring and rebound
adjust

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Good night tonight boys!  Looking forward to getting out riding soon.. come on
CRC - 7 days and counting  [Crying or Very sad]

Till next time........

(btw my bus wasnt for ages and Dave missed his and had a 45min wait lol)

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Denise and I could be up for a trip up to Raasay for this too. Looks
like an interesting format.

OD

--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Dwayne" <thisisplainstupid@...>
wrote:
>
> Now that looks good. I was going to do the Ruthin Merida that weekend
> but I think Ive just changed my mind!
>
> Dwayne
>
>
> --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, thekelticfringe <mtbsnew@>
> wrote:
> >
> > New 10 hr enduro -
> http://www.bikemagic.com/news/article/mps/UAN/5593/v/1
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Read this topic online here:
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

I managed to drill the screw out. Just need the brake bled now.

I was considering getting a bleed kit and giving it a go myself but I
reckon I will just chuck it into the shop.

Thanks for the advice all.

OD


--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Lupton"
<thinkingengine@...> wrote:
>
> --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, Mark Lister <marklister@>
> wrote:
> > Let out fluid to change the pads? What's that about?
> >
> I think I experienced something similar because I got a shop to bleed
> the brakes when they were fitted with worn pads. So there was too
> much fluid in them for new pads - the rotors dragged and it was hard
> to get the new pads in. Hopefully now I've learnt to coincide
> bleeding with new pads, I shouldn't have that problem anymore.
>
> > Get yourself some Hopes. I have 4-pots and the older C2s, both
> > great brakes. One thing that's good about Hope is they're
> > mechanically pretty simple and very serviceable. The Bicycle Works
> > keep plenty of stock of lots of components for them.
> >
> Conversely, two rides on a bike with Juicy 5s (thanks, Des!)
> convinced me that I should get ride of my Minis and Mono Minis and
> switch to Avids. It took two rides because I needed to bed the pads
> in on the first ride. ;-)
>
> I've heard word that the latest Mono Minis are much improved but I
> suddenly realised what I was missing when I tried non-Hopes. And
> actually when I demoed a 5 Pro last December I wasn't too impressed
> with the Mono Minis it had fitted. Mind you I haven't owned C2s or
> [mono] M4s, nor tried them much.
>
> I also remember hating changing the pads on my Mono Minis. The pin
> that held the pads in place was itself held in place by a tiny rubber
> o-ring and I found it really hard to get the pin in and out. The pin
> on my older Minis was threaded and was far easier to extract and
> insert.
>
> > Another thing is their legendary backup/customer support. I'm
> > thinking that would be very useful in situations just like the one
> > you're in now.
> >
> I like the performance of Juicys enough that - for now - I can put up
> with their poorer support. I like some of Hope's stuff but I don't
> like the performance of their brakes enough to buy them on the
> strength of their backup. It takes all sorts though, and obviously
> others' have different opinions. :-)
>
> Chris
>
> ps, Try asking Steve (Vosh) about what he thinks of Hope brakes...
>

Thanks for that Dave!

Mark


Mark Lister
Coaching for men and self-employed people
http://www.markthecoach.co.uk
http://www.FatherOfTheManBlog.blogspot.com


On 28 Jun 2007, at 15:53, dav_hamill wrote:

> Mark if you want to get any SEO benefit from those URLs you'll
> probably need to add the http:// before the www.
>
> OD



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Mark if you want to get any SEO benefit from those URLs you'll
probably need to add the http:// before the www.

OD


--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, Mark Lister <marklister@...> wrote:
>
> Expect me at 8. See you then!
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark Lister
> Coaching for men and self-employed people
> www.markthecoach.co.uk
> www.FatherOfTheManBlog.blogspot.com
>
>
> On 28 Jun 2007, at 10:25, Stuart Marshall wrote:
>
> > I'll be later than 6pm too ... closer to 7
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Muddy descent was great fun, came off twice on that.

Results are up 4hrs 29 mins for me, followed by 1 hour of trying to
warm up in a sleeping bag!





--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Dwayne" <thisisplainstupid@...>
wrote:
>
> Yep, I really enjoyed it, the route was great and the whole
festival
> thing made it a fantastic weekend. I came in at 4h20m which puts
me
> bang in the middle of the field, in spite of convincing myself
that
> the slow puncture I acquired would last till the end every time I
> stopped to blow it up (which was quite a few times near the end)
and
> a wee headplant on one of the muddy descents.
>
> Dwayne
>
> --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "dav_hamill" <daviehamill@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dwayne were you at the Outsider Merida?
> >
> > I think I passed your pall Alex at it.
> >
> > OD
> >
> > --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Dwayne" <thisisplainstupid@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Now that looks good. I was going to do the Ruthin Merida that
> weekend
> > > but I think Ive just changed my mind!
> > >
> > > Dwayne
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, thekelticfringe <mtbsnew@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > New 10 hr enduro -
> > > http://www.bikemagic.com/news/article/mps/UAN/5593/v/1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------------- m2f --------------------
> > > >
> > > > Read this topic online here:
> > > > http://forums.mtbscotland.net/viewtopic.php?p=4680#4680
> > > >
> > > > -------------------- m2f --------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, Mark Lister <marklister@...>
wrote:
> Let out fluid to change the pads? What's that about?
>
I think I experienced something similar because I got a shop to bleed
the brakes when they were fitted with worn pads. So there was too
much fluid in them for new pads - the rotors dragged and it was hard
to get the new pads in. Hopefully now I've learnt to coincide
bleeding with new pads, I shouldn't have that problem anymore.

> Get yourself some Hopes. I have 4-pots and the older C2s, both
> great brakes. One thing that's good about Hope is they're
> mechanically pretty simple and very serviceable. The Bicycle Works
> keep plenty of stock of lots of components for them.
>
Conversely, two rides on a bike with Juicy 5s (thanks, Des!)
convinced me that I should get ride of my Minis and Mono Minis and
switch to Avids. It took two rides because I needed to bed the pads
in on the first ride. ;-)

I've heard word that the latest Mono Minis are much improved but I
suddenly realised what I was missing when I tried non-Hopes. And
actually when I demoed a 5 Pro last December I wasn't too impressed
with the Mono Minis it had fitted. Mind you I haven't owned C2s or
[mono] M4s, nor tried them much.

I also remember hating changing the pads on my Mono Minis. The pin
that held the pads in place was itself held in place by a tiny rubber
o-ring and I found it really hard to get the pin in and out. The pin
on my older Minis was threaded and was far easier to extract and
insert.

> Another thing is their legendary backup/customer support. I'm
> thinking that would be very useful in situations just like the one
> you're in now.
>
I like the performance of Juicys enough that - for now - I can put up
with their poorer support. I like some of Hope's stuff but I don't
like the performance of their brakes enough to buy them on the
strength of their backup. It takes all sorts though, and obviously
others' have different opinions. :-)

Chris

ps, Try asking Steve (Vosh) about what he thinks of Hope brakes...

Expect me at 8. See you then!

Cheers

Mark Lister
Coaching for men and self-employed people
www.markthecoach.co.uk
www.FatherOfTheManBlog.blogspot.com


On 28 Jun 2007, at 10:25, Stuart Marshall wrote:

> I'll be later than 6pm too ... closer to 7



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maybe i'm tempting fate here- i've never had a problem getting pads in my
avids.

there that's blown it, next time i'm stuck 2mins from the middle of nowhere
cursing them damned brakes.


On 6/28/07, Stuart Marshall <yahoo@...> wrote:
>
>   I'm guessing he means RS components:
>
> http://rswww.com/
>
> On 28/06/07, dav_hamill < daviehamill@...<daviehamill%40hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > Thanks for this What is RS?
> >
> > OD
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Dave,

Yes, sorry, R S components, they have a trade counter in Glasgow, 38 Baird
Street, G4 0ED Tel 0141 552 4446 or order online, although delivery is
expensive.

tim.




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I'll be later than 6pm too ... closer to 7

On 27/06/07, Mark Lister <marklister@...> wrote:
>
> I'll be along, though probably later than 6pm. See you there.
>
> Mark
>


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Let out fluid to change the pads? What's that about?

Get yourself some Hopes. I have 4-pots and the older C2s, both great
brakes. One thing that's good about Hope is they're mechanically
pretty simple and very serviceable. The Bicycle Works keep plenty of
stock of lots of components for them.

Another thing is their legendary backup/customer support. I'm
thinking that would be very useful in situations just like the one
you're in now.

Mark

>
> What are Hope Minis like? There's a guy selling some on STW.
>
> OD



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4h20m is pretty fast. Chainsuck was my major problem, but I sorted
that when I through my bike into a big puddle.

I think I know the descent you mean.

OD

--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Dwayne" <thisisplainstupid@...>
wrote:
>
> Yep, I really enjoyed it, the route was great and the whole festival
> thing made it a fantastic weekend. I came in at 4h20m which puts me
> bang in the middle of the field, in spite of convincing myself that
> the slow puncture I acquired would last till the end every time I
> stopped to blow it up (which was quite a few times near the end) and
> a wee headplant on one of the muddy descents.
>
> Dwayne
>
> --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "dav_hamill" <daviehamill@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dwayne were you at the Outsider Merida?
> >
> > I think I passed your pall Alex at it.
> >
> > OD
> >
> > --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Dwayne" <thisisplainstupid@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Now that looks good. I was going to do the Ruthin Merida that
> weekend
> > > but I think Ive just changed my mind!
> > >
> > > Dwayne
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, thekelticfringe <mtbsnew@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > New 10 hr enduro -
> > > http://www.bikemagic.com/news/article/mps/UAN/5593/v/1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------------- m2f --------------------
> > > >
> > > > Read this topic online here:
> > > > http://forums.mtbscotland.net/viewtopic.php?p=4680#4680
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

I'm guessing he means RS components:

http://rswww.com/


On 28/06/07, dav_hamill <daviehamill@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Thanks for this What is RS?
>
> OD
>


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Hi Tim,

Thanks for this What is RS?

OD

--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, jtm2000 <mtbsnew@...> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> There are 2 x ways to fix your damaged screw:
>
> 1. you could drill out the damaged screw and fit a helicoil, however
this is a bit of sensitive operation
>
> 2. get a small screw extractor RS part no 423-6679 for £8.00
>
> When you get the screw/stud out, make sure you fit a stainless
replacement, splined or torx head.
>
> tim
>
>
>
>
> -------------------- m2f --------------------
>
> Read this topic online here:
> http://forums.mtbscotland.net/viewtopic.php?p=4703#4703
>
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>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Mine are Juicy 7s .... so yes you still have to let fluid out with them.

On 28/06/07, dav_hamill <daviehamill@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah I thopught about the Juicy 7s but I think that dial just moves
> the caliper in the way that you do when you push it back. That would
> still mean that you'd need to let out some fluid in order to be able
> to dial it back far enough to get the pads in.
>


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Fwiw, I have Magura Martas and they have proved reliable with very good back
up from Marta when I did have a seal problem. The downside, apart from
exdpense, is availablilty of spare pads and I now keep a wee stock purchased
on the internet. They are not often required but I don't often check them
and so when they wear down I need spares quickly.



-----Original Message-----
From: mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of dav_hamill
Sent: 28 June 2007 08:47
To: mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mtbscotland] Re: Should I just buy a new front brake?

Yeah I thopught about the Juicy 7s but I think that dial just moves the
caliper in the way that you do when you push it back. That would still mean
that you'd need to let out some fluid in order to be able to dial it back
far enough to get the pads in.

What are Hope Minis like? There's a guy selling some on STW.

OD

--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Lupton"
<thinkingengine@...> wrote:
>
> --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Marshall" <yahoo@>
> wrote:
> > I let the fluid out at the caliper end on my juicys ... didn't seem
> > to cause any problems.
> >
> > Though I do agree that fitting new pads is a horrible experience
> > until you let some of the fluid out!
> >
> I have Juicy 7s on my Anthem (unexpected bonus upgrade) and
> considering you can adjust their bite point to somewhere inside the
> handlebars - with new pads - I expect that pad changing should be a
> bit easier with them. I agree though, changing pads on Juicy 5s can be
> frustrating. Remembering back to the Hope brakes I had, I'm still glad
> I made the swap.
>
> I am tempted to buy one of the Juicy bleed kits so I don't have to
> rely on an LBS to sort my brakes out for me. It sounds like bleeding
> Juicys is a bit of a faff but not actually that difficult if you have
> the kit.
>
> Chris
>





Yahoo! Groups Links

Dave,

There are 2 x ways to fix your damaged screw:

1. you could drill out the damaged screw and fit a helicoil, however this is a
bit of sensitive operation

2. get a small screw extractor RS part no 423-6679 for £8.00

When you get the screw/stud out, make sure you fit a stainless replacement,
splined or torx head.

tim




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Yeah I thopught about the Juicy 7s but I think that dial just moves
the caliper in the way that you do when you push it back. That would
still mean that you'd need to let out some fluid in order to be able
to dial it back far enough to get the pads in.

What are Hope Minis like? There's a guy selling some on STW.

OD

--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Lupton"
<thinkingengine@...> wrote:
>
> --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Marshall" <yahoo@>
> wrote:
> > I let the fluid out at the caliper end on my juicys ... didn't seem
> > to cause any problems.
> >
> > Though I do agree that fitting new pads is a horrible experience
> > until you let some of the fluid out!
> >
> I have Juicy 7s on my Anthem (unexpected bonus upgrade) and
> considering you can adjust their bite point to somewhere inside the
> handlebars - with new pads - I expect that pad changing should be a
> bit easier with them. I agree though, changing pads on Juicy 5s can
> be frustrating. Remembering back to the Hope brakes I had, I'm still
> glad I made the swap.
>
> I am tempted to buy one of the Juicy bleed kits so I don't have to
> rely on an LBS to sort my brakes out for me. It sounds like bleeding
> Juicys is a bit of a faff but not actually that difficult if you have
> the kit.
>
> Chris
>

Yep, I really enjoyed it, the route was great and the whole festival
thing made it a fantastic weekend. I came in at 4h20m which puts me
bang in the middle of the field, in spite of convincing myself that
the slow puncture I acquired would last till the end every time I
stopped to blow it up (which was quite a few times near the end) and
a wee headplant on one of the muddy descents.

Dwayne

--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "dav_hamill" <daviehamill@...>
wrote:
>
> Dwayne were you at the Outsider Merida?
>
> I think I passed your pall Alex at it.
>
> OD
>
> --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Dwayne" <thisisplainstupid@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Now that looks good. I was going to do the Ruthin Merida that
weekend
> > but I think Ive just changed my mind!
> >
> > Dwayne
> >
> >
> > --- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, thekelticfringe <mtbsnew@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > New 10 hr enduro -
> > http://www.bikemagic.com/news/article/mps/UAN/5593/v/1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------- m2f --------------------
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
> > > http://forums.mtbscotland.net/viewtopic.php?p=4680#4680
> > >
> > > -------------------- m2f --------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

I was just asking how you were Ian. I'd heard about Conkerhouse.

OD

--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, thekelticfringe <mtbsnew@...> wrote:
>
>
> dav_hamill wrote:
> >
> > Did you get my text the other day?
> >
>
>
> No Dave - sorry - nothing?  There was a problem with the contract on
the phone end of last week beginning of this - now sorted out, but
maybe that's why.  What did it say?  :D
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--- In mtbscotland@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Marshall" <yahoo@...>
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> I let the fluid out at the caliper end on my juicys ... didn't seem
> to cause any problems.
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> Though I do agree that fitting new pads is a horrible experience
> until you let some of the fluid out!
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I have Juicy 7s on my Anthem (unexpected bonus upgrade) and
considering you can adjust their bite point to somewhere inside the
handlebars - with new pads - I expect that pad changing should be a
bit easier with them. I agree though, changing pads on Juicy 5s can
be frustrating. Remembering back to the Hope brakes I had, I'm still
glad I made the swap.

I am tempted to buy one of the Juicy bleed kits so I don't have to
rely on an LBS to sort my brakes out for me. It sounds like bleeding
Juicys is a bit of a faff but not actually that difficult if you have
the kit.

Chris