OK, what I meant by the armpits reference was just the fact that half
the 'dogs' we see in Seoul are of the overgrown rat type, with beady,
malevolent little eyes, that we can often see lurking in the
protective arms of young women on the subway.

I'm sure you've all seen what I'm referring to, the kind of
weasel-like creature that would freak out and probably die instantly
if its paws were to ever actually touch the ground.

And vegetarianism is all good and well (and we probably do eat too
much meat), but evolutionary scientists, anthropologists and other
experts generally agree that if we'd stuck with eating nuts and fruits
a few million years ago we'd still be up in the trees.

One final note.  I did read an article last year about a former German
guy, and now Korean citizen, who is a self-appointed good will
ambassador for the Korean dog meat industry.  He claimed many butchers
are moving away from the more brutal methods of killing and adopting a
more Western approach.  So these days, he says, many butchers are
trying to minimize pain and fear in the dogs so as to reduce levels of
foul-tasting adrenilin.

I've got to agree with point that Tom made once ( I think).  It's just
weird eating meat that eats meat.

Duncan



On 8/1/05, Bill Bayer <bluharo@...> wrote:
> And if sewer rat tasted like pumpkin pie I would eat the mother fucker!
>
>
> Leonardo Ricárdez <leoricardez@...> wrote:
> Tom, you could say that "dogs have personality, and
> personality goes a long way" said somewhere in Pulp
> fiction.
>
> However, I agree with Bill 100%
>
> --- Tom Church <tchurch@...> escribió:
>
> > You're just trying to annoy me with that comment,
> > and you're succeeding. 
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Bill Bayer
> >   To: mtbk@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:04 PM
> >   Subject: Re: MTB Korea Hair of the Dog
> >
> >
> >   Why is it anymore disgusting or horrible than
> > eating cow or pig or chicken or fish or anything
> > else that was once alive and could feel pain and has
> > emotions?   
> >
> >   Tom Church <tchurch@...> wrote:
> >     I failed to mention 2 things about my ride in
> > Kangwan Do yesterday.  First, it would be a great
> > place to bring road bikes.  Second; as I was riding
> > along heading up to the middle of the island I came
> > to a fork in the road.  A bi-lingual sign indicated
> > that the left went to a Christian Village and
> > teenager re-education center.  I thought it better
> > to turn right.  Not far up the climb I started
> > hearing the howling of dogs whose time on earth was
> > ending.  I used to tell people I would eat dog since
> > I thought it only fair considering the times they've
> > tried to eat me, but I said that more for shock
> > value than any real desire to get even.  It's a
> > disgusting practice and really needs to stop. It
> > amazes me how widespread the practice is.
> >
> >       ----- Original Message -----
> >       From: rowland402
> >       To: mtbk@yahoogroups.com
> >       Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:00 PM
> >       Subject: MTB Korea Hair of the Dog
> >
> >
> >       This is not about a hangover remedy.  This is
> > about road riding.
> >
> >       Last week I convinced Mathew C. to take a walk
> > on the ¡°Dark Side¡±
> >       and try a road bike ride.  Now, it is not as
> > if I have secretly
> >       infiltrated MTB Korea just to corrupt the
> > riding morals of innocent
> >       young XC riders.  It is just that I noticed
> > that Mathew was a good
> >       climber and I thought he might enjoy joining
> > my Roadie group for some
> >       big climbs and fast descents on hard roads and
> > skinny tires. 
> >
> >       He agreed and joined me, my wife and our crazy
> > Aussi friend, Sarge at
> >       7:00 AM Sunday morning for a trip out to
> > Paldang.  I managed to find
> >       a real crappy road bike for him so he would
> > not show us up too bad. 
> >       This plan worked perfectly as he was only able
> > to smoke us on the
> >       first big climb and then the rear wheel of the
> > old Cannodale became
> >       mostly unridable (I had spent most of the
> > previous evening loosening
> >       all the spokes).
> >
> >       But the highlight of the day came after the
> > second hill.  After a
> >       blistering decent at 65 kph we were on a flat
> > road following a small
> >       stream.  We had picturesque mountains on
> > either side and we were
> >       enjoying the view, chatting, and recovering in
> > preparation for the
> >       next climb ahead. 
> >
> >       Then it happened¡¦we came across two guys
> > squatting along side of the
> >       stream, with a blow torch, burning the hair
> > off a dog.  Fortunately
> >       at this point the job was almost done and the
> > dog was extremely
> >       dead.  We assume this was some sort of a
> > preparatory step in the kae-
> >       goggi recipe.  But a shocking sight none the
> > less.
> >
> >       The big question for me is this; how does
> > anyone ever decide to do
> >       something like this.  Can you imagine the
> > conversation?
> >       Mr. Kim:  Hey Mr. Lee, whadd¡¯s up?  What you
> > want to do today.
> >       Mr. Lee:  Don¡¯t know, maybe we should burn
> > the hair off my dog?
> >       Mr. Kim: Yeah, I was thinking the exact same
> > thing.
> >       Mr. Lee: OK, you go get your blow torch; I¡¯ll
> > get my dog and meet
> >       you down by the river.
> >
> >       Anyway, that was our Sunday¡¯s entertainment
> > and Mathew¡¯s first big
> >       roadie experience.  Wonder if we¡¯ll get him
> > out there again?
> >
> >       Tom R
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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