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#685 From: Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...>
Date: Thu Sep 9, 2010 3:55 pm
Subject: Notice of Race - 2010 Windpower Championships
ardenalan
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The Windpower Championships will be run September 25 & 26, with the MOWIND 2010 Awards banquet on Saturday night after racing. The Winnebago Super Crossing will be run Friday, September 24th as a lead-up to the event.
 
Follow the link for more information: http://www.mowind.org/wp/?p=1094
 
- Arden, EL-11

#686 From: Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...>
Date: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:12 am
Subject: Regatta Report for 25th Annual Crib Run
ardenalan
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Check it out on the MOWIND web site!
 
Also, remember that the 2011 MOWIND Season kicks off next weekend (Sept. 25-26) in Fond du Lac with the Windpower Championships, with the 2010 Awards Banquet on Saturday night.
 
See you there!
Arden, EL-11
 

#687 From: Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...>
Date: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:59 pm
Subject: Columbus Day Regatta Oct 9 & 10
ardenalan
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#688 From: Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...>
Date: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:10 am
Subject: Fwd: FREE WINDSURFING RACE this Friday Lake Winnebago SuperCrossing
ardenalan
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The Winnebago Super Crossing is forecast to have EXCELLENT wind this Friday. Read the following messages for more info. The Windpower Championships follow on Sat & Sun.
 
Refer to the following emails for more information.
 
- Arden, EL-11

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: jeff knutson <jkknutson@...>
Date: Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:08 AM
Subject: FREE WINDSURFING RACE this Friday Lake Winnebago SuperCrossing

Itinerary for Supercrosssing 26 mile race each race,  52 miles total race if you choose to race both races. Rides will be available, no chase boat.

 

9 am registration begins, make sure you register so you can receive MOWIND points for the race.

KITERS make sure I have your name and phone number.

9:45 sharp Skippers meeting.

10 am first race start.

Finish first race High Cliff state park by touching dry land.

Brat fry and water and Corona for lunch.

1 pm second race begins.

Finish by touching stairs at Roosevelt park. (stairs on lake Winnebago in front of Wind Power)

 

Itinerary may change due.

 

This is a very serious race we do not have a chase boat, so you have to get to land and call 920-841-9004 to get picked up if you or your equipment breaks down.

 

Jeffrey Knutson

President

A-A Exteriors

(920) 841-9004 (cell)

jkknutson@...

www.a-aexteriors.com

 

 

From: Kevin Gratton [mailto:keving@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:42 PM
Subject: Friday Lake Winnebago SuperCrossing

 

Hi Everyone,

 

The weather is shaping up to be near perfect conditions for a FULL Lake Crossing.  Wind Power to High Cliff.  26 miles one way!

This is a free fun race sponsored by Jeff Knutson of AA-Exteriors, your Energy Expert.  (Don Altmeyer and I watched Jeff on TV last Friday night!)

Anyways this should be an easy race, abroad reach to High Cliff.  Winds in the 20 -30 range.  Easy to do on a shortboard.

 

Come and joins us this happens about once in ten years that the stars all line up and the wind blows strong enough from the right direction.  Last time was in 2003.

 

Kiters are welcome but not part of the SuperCrossing Event.  We will get them a ride back.

 

Let me know if you are interested and I will keep you in the loop with details.

Let’s see who can do it in less than an hour.

 

Cheers


Thanks,

Kevin Gratton
Owner - Certified Instructor

www.WindPowerWindsurfing.com

WindPowerWindsurfing.com
N7351 Winnebago Drive
Fond du Lac, WI 54935
920-922-2550

 



#689 From: "Del Carpenter" <delcarpenter@...>
Date: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:48 am
Subject: P. 22 latest Windsurfing Mag, Kevin's help, & Del's status
del.carpenter
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1. Some MOWIND places are mentioned in my article which is on page 22 of the
current (Winter) issue of Windsurfing Magazine.

2. In the heat of a moment at the finish of one race in Dryden Ontario, I
criticized Kevin Gratton for still being on the course.  He was actually helping
inexperience racers, so he was really in the right place at the right time.   I
hope everyone can make it to the Wind Power Championships this weekend and
support Kevin's event.

3. I can't be there.  My mother's funeral is Friday and the burial is Saturday. 
She was 94 and she was ready to go.

Take care,

Del Carpenter

#690 From: Brad Woodworth <windsurfwoody@...>
Date: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:29 pm
Subject: Re: P. 22 latest Windsurfing Mag, Kevin's help, & Del's status
windsurfwoody
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My condolences Del  about your Mom. 94 years is a tremendous age to attain. Wonderful.
 
We will see you on the water in the 2011 season!
 
Woody
 


----- Original Message -----
From: Del Carpenter <delcarpenter@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:48 pm
Subject: [mowind] P. 22 latest Windsurfing Mag, Kevin's help, & Del's status
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com

> 1. Some MOWIND places are mentioned in my article which is on
> page 22 of the current (Winter) issue of Windsurfing Magazine.
>
> 2. In the heat of a moment at the finish of one race in Dryden
> Ontario, I criticized Kevin Gratton for still being on the
> course.  He was actually helping inexperience racers, so he
> was really in the right place at the right time.   I
> hope everyone can make it to the Wind Power Championships this
> weekend and support Kevin's event.
>
> 3. I can't be there.  My mother's funeral is Friday and the
> burial is Saturday.  She was 94 and she was ready to go.
>
> Take care,
>
> Del Carpenter  
>
>

#691 From: "Kevin Gratton" <keving@...>
Date: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:46 pm
Subject: RE: P. 22 latest Windsurfing Mag, Kevin's help, & Del's status
kevingratton
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Hi Del,

 

Sorry to hear about your mother, buy I’m happy she had a full life.

You will be missed this weekend, but hope to see you back next year.

You should bring your wife more often.

 

With me getting older and slower, you should get used to me being in the back of the pack and waiting for me. LOL

 

Friday is looking better all the time for a full length SuperCrossing on Winnebago.  There is even talk of racing back the length of the lake for the diehards.  That would be 52 miles!

See you on the water.

 


Thanks,

Kevin Gratton
Owner - Certified Instructor

www.WindPowerWindsurfing.com

www.WindPowerWindsurfing.comWind Power BlogWindsurfing & Kiting Lessons

WindPowerWindsurfing.com
N7351 Winnebago Drive
Fond du Lac, WI 54935
920-922-2550

 


From: mowind@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mowind@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brad Woodworth
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:29 AM
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mowind] P. 22 latest Windsurfing Mag, Kevin's help, & Del's status

 

 

My condolences Del  about your Mom. 94 years is a tremendous age to attain. Wonderful.

 

We will see you on the water in the 2011 season!

 

Woody

 



----- Original Message -----
From: Del Carpenter <delcarpenter@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:48 pm
Subject: [mowind] P. 22 latest Windsurfing Mag, Kevin's help, & Del's status
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com

> 1. Some MOWIND places are mentioned in my article which is on
> page 22 of the current (Winter) issue of Windsurfing Magazine.
>
> 2. In the heat of a moment at the finish of one race in Dryden
> Ontario, I criticized Kevin Gratton for still being on the
> course.  He was actually helping inexperience racers, so he
> was really in the right place at the right time.   I
> hope everyone can make it to the Wind Power Championships this
> weekend and support Kevin's event.
>
> 3. I can't be there.  My mother's funeral is Friday and the
> burial is Saturday.  She was 94 and she was ready to go.
>
> Take care,
>
> Del Carpenter  
>
>


#692 From: Philip S <PTSMANTUA@...>
Date: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:04 am
Subject: Re: P. 22 latest Windsurfing Mag, Kevin's help, & Del's status
ptsmantua
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Del,

Our condolences from China (Phil, Matt and Sam)

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Brad Woodworth <windsurfwoody@...> wrote:
 

My condolences Del  about your Mom. 94 years is a tremendous age to attain. Wonderful.
 
We will see you on the water in the 2011 season!
 
Woody
 


----- Original Message -----
From: Del Carpenter <delcarpenter@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:48 pm
Subject: [mowind] P. 22 latest Windsurfing Mag, Kevin's help, & Del's status
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com

> 1. Some MOWIND places are mentioned in my article which is on
> page 22 of the current (Winter) issue of Windsurfing Magazine.
>
> 2. In the heat of a moment at the finish of one race in Dryden
> Ontario, I criticized Kevin Gratton for still being on the
> course.  He was actually helping inexperience racers, so he
> was really in the right place at the right time.   I
> hope everyone can make it to the Wind Power Championships this
> weekend and support Kevin's event.
>
> 3. I can't be there.  My mother's funeral is Friday and the
> burial is Saturday.  She was 94 and she was ready to go.
>
> Take care,
>
> Del Carpenter  
>
>


#693 From: Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...>
Date: Sat Oct 2, 2010 5:50 pm
Subject: MOWIND Updates
ardenalan
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The 2011 MOWIND Race Series started with a bang last weekend. Check out the www.mowind.org site for updates:
 
2010 Awards and Results: http://www.mowind.org/wp/?p=1143
Winnebago Super Crossing & Windpower Championships: http://www.mowind.org/wp/?p=1147
 
Have a fun and safe fall sailing season,
Arden, EL-11

#694 From: Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...>
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:03 am
Subject: Midwest Speed Quest Final Report
ardenalan
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Check out the article on the MOWIND web site:
 
Thanks to Craig bergh and everyone at Midwest Speed Quest!
 
Later,
Arden, EL-11

#696 From: "Steve" <coach07@...>
Date: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:07 pm
Subject: Kona worlds
callaway.steve
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Miami Beach November 1-7
Kona One Design World Championships
I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since a one design
windsurfing event was held in the USA that attracted 83 boards.  The first week
of November brought competitors from around the world to participate in the 5th
annual Kona One Design Class world championships in Miami Beach. What fun it was
to see competitors talking about wind shifts, currents, and strategy rather than
equipment after a race. The Kona Class uses sail size to level the playing field
for competitors of different sizes. That formula appeared to work in Miami Beach
with heavy weights, medium weights, and women all represented in the top five!
      MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel Matousek , Andree
Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve Callaway
enjoyed themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made it tough
sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The Europeans
dominated the results as their skills have developed after five years of one
design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see the enthusiasm that racing
the same gear creates. Families attended and all raced, with 30% of the
participants being women!
     From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds varied from 7 –
close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on the light wind day left me feeling
like a beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a Kona can do in
strong winds.  Involuntary wave sailing on the way out through the shore break
and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge enough for many. The speed
of the top sailors was incredible as they reached off the wind. Upwind legs were
sailed mostly on just the back fins as the racers were planning all the way
around the course.  I kept hoping for more moderate conditions, but to no avail.
Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front approaching kept the wind howling for the
entire week.
      A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends" from the
MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance to meet new folks from
all over. There truly was a great Kona spirit throughout the week that touched
everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk about the bright
future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to grow in North
America and the charter boards are available at a great price from Aerotech
sails. I find the Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in the Midwest.
The board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds and then when the
wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as well. It is truly a
board that could be your first windsurfer as well as one that you can sail in
highly competitive one design fleets throughout the world. Let's bring Kona one
design sailing into MOWIND events and then travel to the Worlds next year in
Denmark!!!
      The following links will tell the story better than I can, so check out the
action and join the fun of Kona One Design racing!  Check out Paul sailing out
while scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in my home viedeo!
She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk

#697 From: Brad Woodworth <windsurfwoody@...>
Date: Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: Kona worlds
windsurfwoody
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Great re-cap of the event Steve. 'Kona Spirit' is talked of highly and how it is also such an important part of the class.
 
Our windsurfing club has a few Kona boards now and will be getting more going forward. I was inspired enough from the Worlds in Miami to make a decision to actively promote the class in the Midwest events I will attend. I believe the Kona One Design Class has a bright future ahead in the Midwest and world windsurfing community.
 
Good winds,
 
Woody - CAN757
 


----- Original Message -----
From: Steve <coach07@...>
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:08 am
Subject: [mowind] Kona worlds
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com

> Miami Beach November 1-7
> Kona One Design World Championships
> I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since
> a one design windsurfing event was held in the USA that
> attracted 83 boards.  The first week of November brought
> competitors from around the world to participate in the 5th
> annual Kona One Design Class world championships in Miami Beach.
> What fun it was to see competitors talking about wind shifts,
> currents, and strategy rather than equipment after a race. The
> Kona Class uses sail size to level the playing field for
> competitors of different sizes. That formula appeared to work in
> Miami Beach with heavy weights, medium weights, and women all
> represented in the top five!
>      MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad
> Woodworth, Pavel Matousek , Andree Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland
> Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve Callaway enjoyed
> themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made it tough
> sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent.
> The Europeans dominated the results as their skills have
> developed after five years of one design racing on the Konas. It
> was great fun to see the enthusiasm that racing the same gear
> creates. Families attended and all raced, with 30% of the
> participants being women! 
>     From a personal point of view, it was
> frustrating. The winds varied from 7 – close to 30 knots with 2
> meter swells even on the light wind day left me feeling like a
> beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a Kona can
> do in strong winds.  Involuntary wave sailing on the way
> out through the shore break and riding the waves back to the
> beach was challenge enough for many. The speed of the top
> sailors was incredible as they reached off the wind. Upwind legs
> were sailed mostly on just the back fins as the racers were
> planning all the way around the course.  I kept hoping for
> more moderate conditions, but to no avail. Tropical storm Tomas
> and a cold front approaching kept the wind howling for the
> entire week.
>      A great thing about the Kona worlds was
> to see "old friends" from the MOWIND events in a new environment
> and to get a chance to meet new folks from all over. There truly
> was a great Kona spirit throughout the week that touched
> everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk
> about the bright future of Kona one design racing. The Kona
> class is eager to grow in North America and the charter boards
> are available at a great price from Aerotech sails. I find the
> Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in the Midwest. The
> board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds and
> then when the wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail
> then as well. It is truly a board that could be your first
> windsurfer as well as one that you can sail in highly
> competitive one design fleets throughout the world. Let's bring
> Kona one design sailing into MOWIND events and then travel to
> the Worlds next year in Denmark!!!
>      The following links will tell the story
> better than I can, so check out the action and join the fun of
> Kona One Design racing!  Check out Paul sailing out while
> scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in my home
> viedeo! She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
>
>

#698 From: "Scott" <shaas@...>
Date: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
amokaman
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FYI .. Progressive Sports(Aerotech)is offering the Kona One boards and rigs used
in the Miami Kona Worlds at reduced prices.  Prices vary based on board grade of
A,B,C.  Talk to your dealer.

I love the concept and competition of one design racing and really have enjoyed
racing the Prodigy/Hybrid the last few years.  If there is a downside it's that
the race group has been fairly smallish with probably around two dozen in the
mid-west that have raced Prodigy One Design over the years.  Getting a dozen or
more to show at one event has only happened a few times.  The fun side is there
is around ten local active Toledo windsurfers that have the Prodigy boards (half
of them have never entered a regatta) .. but we all have a good time drag racing
each other on Maumee Bay all summer.

I presently think the Raceboard Class ..(see http://www.raceboard.org/ ) is a
good way to promote windsurf racing.
The Raceboard Class keeps the equipment rules very simple .. sail max 9.5 men,
8.5 for women, limits people to one board and two sails per event which keeps
racing affordable for all.  The Web site has the rules there and a list of
approved boards which is about any big race board(longboard and hybrid) built
the last twenty years.

I wouldn't want to create yet another scoring class in MOWIND so I suggest the
MOWIND guru's replace the Hybrid class with Raceboard Class.   With the Prodigy
being out of production I think it's a good move now.  It at least gives current
Prodigy owners and Kona One owners a class to race in where there are some
equipment limit rules.  And yes the longboarders can also race in it but they
would have the same two sail, two fin, two centerboard limit per event.  If we
get numbers showing up for the class .. then of course the local RC  can divide
the class up by experience, age, sex and or weight at any event for awards.   
Any comments ?  now is the time to chime in.

Scott #H


--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <coach07@...> wrote:
>
> Miami Beach November 1-7
> Kona One Design World Championships
> I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since a one design
windsurfing event was held in the USA that attracted 83 boards.  The first week
of November brought competitors from around the world to participate in the 5th
annual Kona One Design Class world championships in Miami Beach. What fun it was
to see competitors talking about wind shifts, currents, and strategy rather than
equipment after a race. The Kona Class uses sail size to level the playing field
for competitors of different sizes. That formula appeared to work in Miami Beach
with heavy weights, medium weights, and women all represented in the top five!
>      MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel Matousek , Andree
Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve Callaway
enjoyed themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made it tough
sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The Europeans
dominated the results as their skills have developed after five years of one
design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see the enthusiasm that racing
the same gear creates. Families attended and all raced, with 30% of the
participants being women!
>     From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds varied from 7
– close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on the light wind day left me
feeling like a beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a Kona can
do in strong winds.  Involuntary wave sailing on the way out through the shore
break and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge enough for many. The
speed of the top sailors was incredible as they reached off the wind. Upwind
legs were sailed mostly on just the back fins as the racers were planning all
the way around the course.  I kept hoping for more moderate conditions, but to
no avail. Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front approaching kept the wind
howling for the entire week.
>      A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends" from the
MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance to meet new folks from
all over. There truly was a great Kona spirit throughout the week that touched
everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk about the bright
future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to grow in North
America and the charter boards are available at a great price from Aerotech
sails. I find the Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in the Midwest.
The board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds and then when the
wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as well. It is truly a
board that could be your first windsurfer as well as one that you can sail in
highly competitive one design fleets throughout the world. Let's bring Kona one
design sailing into MOWIND events and then travel to the Worlds next year in
Denmark!!!
>      The following links will tell the story better than I can, so check out
the action and join the fun of Kona One Design racing!  Check out Paul sailing
out while scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in my home
viedeo! She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
>

#699 From: "Arden Anderson" <ardenalan@...>
Date: Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
ardenalan
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I think one design racing is a blast and wish we could get a larger fleet going in the midwest. Like Scott said, Prodigy has been doing okay but never really got over the hump.

I would be really interested in racing kona (or any other one design class) if we had enough people in it. Who else is considering kona?

Later,
Arden




On Nov 21, 2010 11:35 AM, Scott <shaas@...> wrote:

 

FYI .. Progressive Sports(Aerotech)is offering the Kona One boards and rigs used in the Miami Kona Worlds at reduced prices. Prices vary based on board grade of A,B,C. Talk to your dealer.

I love the concept and competition of one design racing and really have enjoyed racing the Prodigy/Hybrid the last few years. If there is a downside it's that the race group has been fairly smallish with probably around two dozen in the mid-west that have raced Prodigy One Design over the years. Getting a dozen or more to show at one event has only happened a few times. The fun side is there is around ten local active Toledo windsurfers that have the Prodigy boards (half of them have never entered a regatta) .. but we all have a good time drag racing each other on Maumee Bay all summer.

I presently think the Raceboard Class ..(see http://www.raceboard.org/ ) is a good way to promote windsurf racing.
The Raceboard Class keeps the equipment rules very simple .. sail max 9.5 men, 8.5 for women, limits people to one board and two sails per event which keeps racing affordable for all. The Web site has the rules there and a list of approved boards which is about any big race board(longboard and hybrid) built the last twenty years.

I wouldn't want to create yet another scoring class in MOWIND so I suggest the MOWIND guru's replace the Hybrid class with Raceboard Class. With the Prodigy being out of production I think it's a good move now. It at least gives current Prodigy owners and Kona One owners a class to race in where there are some equipment limit rules. And yes the longboarders can also race in it but they would have the same two sail, two fin, two centerboard limit per event. If we get numbers showing up for the class .. then of course the local RC can divide the class up by experience, age, sex and or weight at any event for awards. Any comments ? now is the time to chime in.

Scott #H

--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <coach07@...> wrote:
>
> Miami Beach November 1-7
> Kona One Design World Championships
> I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since a one design windsurfing event was held in the USA that attracted 83 boards. The first week of November brought competitors from around the world to participate in the 5th annual Kona One Design Class world championships in Miami Beach. What fun it was to see competitors talking about wind shifts, currents, and strategy rather than equipment after a race. The Kona Class uses sail size to level the playing field for competitors of different sizes. That formula appeared to work in Miami Beach with heavy weights, medium weights, and women all represented in the top five!
> MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel Matousek , Andree Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve Callaway enjoyed themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made it tough sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The Europeans dominated the results as their skills have developed after five years of one design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see the enthusiasm that racing the same gear creates. Families attended and all raced, with 30% of the participants being women!
> From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds varied from 7 – close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on the light wind day left me feeling like a beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a Kona can do in strong winds. Involuntary wave sailing on the way out through the shore break and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge enough for many. The speed of the top sailors was incredible as they reached off the wind. Upwind legs were sailed mostly on just the back fins as the racers were planning all the way around the course. I kept hoping for more moderate conditions, but to no avail. Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front approaching kept the wind howling for the entire week.
> A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends" from the MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance to meet new folks from all over. There truly was a great Kona spirit throughout the week that touched everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk about the bright future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to grow in North America and the charter boards are available at a great price from Aerotech sails. I find the Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in the Midwest. The board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds and then when the wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as well. It is truly a board that could be your first windsurfer as well as one that you can sail in highly competitive one design fleets throughout the world. Let's bring Kona one design sailing into MOWIND events and then travel to the Worlds next year in Denmark!!!
> The following links will tell the story better than I can, so check out the action and join the fun of Kona One Design racing! Check out Paul sailing out while scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in my home viedeo! She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
>


#700 From: Alex Monroe <truckman1972@...>
Date: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
truckman1972
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Hi all

Can anyone tell me who to talk to about getting a charter board?  Esther wants one to learn on, and I will race the kona one design if anyone else wants to. I have a feeling we have 3-4 people already considering it. 

Thanks. 

Alex

On Nov 21, 2010, at 12:00 PM, "Arden Anderson" <ardenalan@...> wrote:

 

I think one design racing is a blast and wish we could get a larger fleet going in the midwest. Like Scott said, Prodigy has been doing okay but never really got over the hump.

I would be really interested in racing kona (or any other one design class) if we had enough people in it. Who else is considering kona?

Later,
Arden




On Nov 21, 2010 11:35 AM, Scott <shaas@...> wrote:

 

FYI .. Progressive Sports(Aerotech)is offering the Kona One boards and rigs used in the Miami Kona Worlds at reduced prices. Prices vary based on board grade of A,B,C. Talk to your dealer.

I love the concept and competition of one design racing and really have enjoyed racing the Prodigy/Hybrid the last few years. If there is a downside it's that the race group has been fairly smallish with probably around two dozen in the mid-west that have raced Prodigy One Design over the years. Getting a dozen or more to show at one event has only happened a few times. The fun side is there is around ten local active Toledo windsurfers that have the Prodigy boards (half of them have never entered a regatta) .. but we all have a good time drag racing each other on Maumee Bay all summer.

I presently think the Raceboard Class ..(see http://www.raceboard.org/ ) is a good way to promote windsurf racing.
The Raceboard Class keeps the equipment rules very simple .. sail max 9.5 men, 8.5 for women, limits people to one board and two sails per event which keeps racing affordable for all. The Web site has the rules there and a list of approved boards which is about any big race board(longboard and hybrid) built the last twenty years.

I wouldn't want to create yet another scoring class in MOWIND so I suggest the MOWIND guru's replace the Hybrid class with Raceboard Class. With the Prodigy being out of production I think it's a good move now. It at least gives current Prodigy owners and Kona One owners a class to race in where there are some equipment limit rules. And yes the longboarders can also race in it but they would have the same two sail, two fin, two centerboard limit per event. If we get numbers showing up for the class .. then of course the local RC can divide the class up by experience, age, sex and or weight at any event for awards. Any comments ? now is the time to chime in.

Scott #H

--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <coach07@...> wrote:
>
> Miami Beach November 1-7
> Kona One Design World Championships
> I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since a one design windsurfing event was held in the USA that attracted 83 boards. The first week of November brought competitors from around the world to participate in the 5th annual Kona One Design Class world championships in Miami Beach. What fun it was to see competitors talking about wind shifts, currents, and strategy rather than equipment after a race. The Kona Class uses sail size to level the playing field for competitors of different sizes. That formula appeared to work in Miami Beach with heavy weights, medium weights, and women all represented in the top five!
> MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel Matousek , Andree Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve Callaway enjoyed themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made it tough sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The Europeans dominated the results as their skills have developed after five years of one design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see the enthusiasm that racing the same gear creates. Families attended and all raced, with 30% of the participants being women!
> From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds varied from 7 – close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on the light wind day left me feeling like a beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a Kona can do in strong winds. Involuntary wave sailing on the way out through the shore break and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge enough for many. The speed of the top sailors was incredible as they reached off the wind. Upwind legs were sailed mostly on just the back fins as the racers were planning all the way around the course. I kept hoping for more moderate conditions, but to no avail. Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front approaching kept the wind howling for the entire week.
> A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends" from the MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance to meet new folks from all over. There truly was a great Kona spirit throughout the week that touched everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk about the bright future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to grow in North America and the charter boards are available at a great price from Aerotech sails. I find the Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in the Midwest. The board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds and then when the wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as well. It is truly a board that could be your first windsurfer as well as one that you can sail in highly competitive one design fleets throughout the world. Let's bring Kona one design sailing into MOWIND events and then travel to the Worlds next year in Denmark!!!
> The following links will tell the story better than I can, so check out the action and join the fun of Kona One Design racing! Check out Paul sailing out while scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in my home viedeo! She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
>


#701 From: Brad Woodworth <windsurfwoody@...>
Date: Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
windsurfwoody
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Hey Alex, contact Marty or Steve Gottlieb from Aerotech Sports in Miami.
 
Woody
 


----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Monroe <truckman1972@...>
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:41 pm
Subject: Re: [mowind] Re: Kona worlds   -  Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
To: "mowind@yahoogroups.com" <mowind@yahoogroups.com>

> Hi all
>
> Can anyone tell me who to talk to about getting a charter
> board?  Esther wants one to learn on, and I will race the
> kona one design if anyone else wants to. I have a feeling we
> have 3-4 people already considering it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Alex
>
> On Nov 21, 2010, at 12:00 PM, "Arden Anderson"
> <ardenalan@...> wrote:
>
> > I think one design racing is a blast and wish we could get a
> larger fleet going in the midwest. Like Scott said, Prodigy has
> been doing okay but never really got over the hump.
> >
> > I would be really interested in racing kona (or any other one
> design class) if we had enough people in it. Who else is
> considering kona?
> >
> > Later,
> > Arden
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2010 11:35 AM, Scott <shaas@...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > FYI .. Progressive Sports(Aerotech)is offering the Kona One
> boards and rigs used in the Miami Kona Worlds at reduced prices.
> Prices vary based on board grade of A,B,C. Talk to your dealer.
> >
> > I love the concept and competition of one design racing and
> really have enjoyed racing the Prodigy/Hybrid the last few
> years. If there is a downside it's that the race group has been
> fairly smallish with probably around two dozen in the mid-west
> that have raced Prodigy One Design over the years. Getting a
> dozen or more to show at one event has only happened a few
> times.  The fun side is there is around ten local active
> Toledo windsurfers that have the Prodigy boards (half of them
> have never entered a regatta) .. but we all have a good time
> drag racing each other on Maumee Bay all summer.
> >
> > I presently think the Raceboard Class ..(see
> http://www.raceboard.org/ ) is a good way to promote windsurf
> racing.
> > The Raceboard Class keeps the equipment rules very simple ..
> sail max 9.5 men, 8.5 for women, limits people to one board and
> two sails per event which keeps racing affordable for all. The
> Web site has the rules there and a list of approved boards which
> is about any big race board(longboard and hybrid) built the last
> twenty years.
> >
> > I wouldn't want to create yet another scoring class in MOWIND
> so I suggest the MOWIND guru's replace the Hybrid class with
> Raceboard Class. With the Prodigy being out of production I
> think it's a good move now. It at least gives current Prodigy
> owners and Kona One owners a class to race in where there are
> some equipment limit rules. And yes the longboarders can also
> race in it but they would have the same two sail, two fin, two
> centerboard limit per event. If we get numbers showing up for
> the class .. then of course the local RC can divide the class up
> by experience, age, sex and or weight at any event for awards.
> Any comments ? now is the time to chime in.
> >
> > Scott #H
> >
> > --- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <coach07@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Miami Beach November 1-7
> > > Kona One Design World Championships
> > > I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed
> since a one design windsurfing event was held in the USA that
> attracted 83 boards. The first week of November brought
> competitors from around the world to participate in the 5th
> annual Kona One Design Class world championships in Miami Beach.
> What fun it was to see competitors talking about wind shifts,
> currents, and strategy rather than equipment after a race. The
> Kona Class uses sail size to level the playing field for
> competitors of different sizes. That formula appeared to work in
> Miami Beach with heavy weights, medium weights, and women all
> represented in the top five!
> > > MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel
> Matousek , Andree Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf
> Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve Callaway enjoyed themselves at the
> event. High winds and rough seas made it tough sledding for the
> lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The Europeans
> dominated the results as their skills have developed after five
> years of one design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see
> the enthusiasm that racing the same gear creates. Families
> attended and all raced, with 30% of the participants being
> women!
> > > From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds
> varied from 7 – close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on
> the light wind day left me feeling like a beginner. But everyone
> had an opportunity to see what a Kona can do in strong winds.
> Involuntary wave sailing on the way out through the shore break
> and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge enough for
> many. The speed of the top sailors was incredible as they
> reached off the wind. Upwind legs were sailed mostly on just the
> back fins as the racers were planning all the way around the
> course. I kept hoping for more moderate conditions, but to no
> avail. Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front approaching kept
> the wind howling for the entire week.
> > > A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends"
> from the MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance
> to meet new folks from all over. There truly was a great Kona
> spirit throughout the week that touched everyone there. Talk
> about the good old days morphed into talk about the bright
> future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to
> grow in North America and the charter boards are available at a
> great price from Aerotech sails. I find the Kona board to be a
> perfect board for sailing in the Midwest. The board has enough
> volume to be fun to sail in light winds and then when the wind
> kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as well. It is
> truly a board that could be your first windsurfer as well as one
> that you can sail in highly competitive one design fleets
> throughout the world. Let's bring Kona one design sailing into
> MOWIND events and then travel to the Worlds next year in Denmark!!!
> > > The following links will tell the story better than I can,
> so check out the action and join the fun of Kona One Design
> racing! Check out Paul sailing out while scaring the girls on
> the beach at the 13:03 time mark in my home viedeo! She must
> have seen something in the way he sailed????
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
> > >
> >
> >
>

#702 From: "Steve" <coach07@...>
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:24 am
Subject: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
callaway.steve
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I already have one Kona and our club has three more that will be racing this
year in some Mowind events. The Kona really reminds me of what windsurfing
racing used to be like in the old one design days of the 1980s. A board that has
good all around sailing characteristics,  that addresses the body weight /
volume issues with varying sail sizes. From my observations in Miami, it works.
I believe that if we want our sport to grow, we need to support a class that
uses equipment that is currently in production. Something that anyone could get
into a racing setup that is simple,  not overly rare, or expensive. In the old
days, the first board you bought was also the board that you raced. That made
the pool of potential racers much larger. A beginner will find a Kona to be user
friendly, and if they choose to race, they already have the gear. It is a short
leap!
Steve

--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Anderson" <ardenalan@...> wrote:
>
> I think one design racing is a blast and wish we could get a larger fleet
going in the midwest. Like Scott said, Prodigy has been doing okay but never
really got over the hump.
>
> I would be really interested in racing kona (or any other one design class) if
we had enough people in it. Who else is considering kona?
>
> Later,
> Arden
>
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2010 11:35 AM, Scott shaas@... wrote:
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> FYI .. Progressive Sports(Aerotech)is offering the Kona One boards and rigs
used in the Miami Kona Worlds at reduced prices.  Prices vary based on board
grade of A,B,C.  Talk to your dealer.
>
>
>
> I love the concept and competition of one design racing and really have
enjoyed racing the Prodigy/Hybrid the last few years.  If there is a downside
it's that the race group has been fairly smallish with probably around two dozen
in the mid-west that have raced Prodigy One Design over the years.  Getting a
dozen or more to show at one event has only happened a few times.  The fun side
is there is around ten local active Toledo windsurfers that have the Prodigy
boards (half of them have never entered a regatta) .. but we all have a good
time drag racing each other on Maumee Bay all summer.
>
>
>
> I presently think the Raceboard Class ..(see http://www.raceboard.org/ ) is a
good way to promote windsurf racing.
>
> The Raceboard Class keeps the equipment rules very simple .. sail max 9.5 men,
8.5 for women, limits people to one board and two sails per event which keeps
racing affordable for all.  The Web site has the rules there and a list of
approved boards which is about any big race board(longboard and hybrid) built
the last twenty years.
>
>
>
> I wouldn't want to create yet another scoring class in MOWIND so I suggest the
MOWIND guru's replace the Hybrid class with Raceboard Class.   With the Prodigy
being out of production I think it's a good move now.  It at least gives current
Prodigy owners and Kona One owners a class to race in where there are some
equipment limit rules.  And yes the longboarders can also race in it but they
would have the same two sail, two fin, two centerboard limit per event.  If we
get numbers showing up for the class .. then of course the local RC  can divide
the class up by experience, age, sex and or weight at any event for awards.   
Any comments ?  now is the time to chime in.
>
>
>
> Scott #H
>
>
>
> --- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" coach07@ wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Miami Beach November 1-7
>
> > Kona One Design World Championships
>
> > I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since a one
design windsurfing event was held in the USA that attracted 83 boards.  The
first week of November brought competitors from around the world to participate
in the 5th annual Kona One Design Class world championships in Miami Beach. What
fun it was to see competitors talking about wind shifts, currents, and strategy
rather than equipment after a race. The Kona Class uses sail size to level the
playing field for competitors of different sizes. That formula appeared to work
in Miami Beach with heavy weights, medium weights, and women all represented in
the top five!
>
> >      MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel Matousek ,
Andree Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve
Callaway enjoyed themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made it
tough sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The
Europeans dominated the results as their skills have developed after five years
of one design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see the enthusiasm that
racing the same gear creates. Families attended and all raced, with 30% of the
participants being women!
>
> >     From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds varied
from 7 – close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on the light wind day left
me feeling like a beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a Kona
can do in strong winds.  Involuntary wave sailing on the way out through the
shore break and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge enough for
many. The speed of the top sailors was incredible as they reached off the wind.
Upwind legs were sailed mostly on just the back fins as the racers were planning
all the way around the course.  I kept hoping for more moderate conditions, but
to no avail. Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front approaching kept the wind
howling for the entire week.
>
> >      A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends" from
the MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance to meet new folks
from all over. There truly was a great Kona spirit throughout the week that
touched everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk about the
bright future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to grow in
North America and the charter boards are available at a great price from
Aerotech sails. I find the Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in the
Midwest. The board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds and then
when the wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as well. It is
truly a board that could be your first windsurfer as well as one that you can
sail in highly competitive one design fleets throughout the world. Let's bring
Kona one design sailing into MOWIND events and then travel to the Worlds next
year in Denmark!!!
>
> >      The following links will tell the story better than I can, so check
out the action and join the fun of Kona One Design racing!  Check out Paul
sailing out while scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in my
home viedeo! She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
>
> >
>

#703 From: "Steve" <coach07@...>
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:27 am
Subject: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
callaway.steve
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Perfect Alex! Esther will love the Kona. That is all Karen likes to sail!

--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, Alex Monroe <truckman1972@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Can anyone tell me who to talk to about getting a charter board?  Esther wants
one to learn on, and I will race the kona one design if anyone else wants to. I
have a feeling we have 3-4 people already considering it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Alex
>
> On Nov 21, 2010, at 12:00 PM, "Arden Anderson" <ardenalan@...> wrote:
>
> > I think one design racing is a blast and wish we could get a larger fleet
going in the midwest. Like Scott said, Prodigy has been doing okay but never
really got over the hump.
> >
> > I would be really interested in racing kona (or any other one design class)
if we had enough people in it. Who else is considering kona?
> >
> > Later,
> > Arden
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2010 11:35 AM, Scott <shaas@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > FYI .. Progressive Sports(Aerotech)is offering the Kona One boards and rigs
used in the Miami Kona Worlds at reduced prices. Prices vary based on board
grade of A,B,C. Talk to your dealer.
> >
> > I love the concept and competition of one design racing and really have
enjoyed racing the Prodigy/Hybrid the last few years. If there is a downside
it's that the race group has been fairly smallish with probably around two dozen
in the mid-west that have raced Prodigy One Design over the years. Getting a
dozen or more to show at one event has only happened a few times.  The fun side
is there is around ten local active Toledo windsurfers that have the Prodigy
boards (half of them have never entered a regatta) .. but we all have a good
time drag racing each other on Maumee Bay all summer.
> >
> > I presently think the Raceboard Class ..(see http://www.raceboard.org/ ) is
a good way to promote windsurf racing.
> > The Raceboard Class keeps the equipment rules very simple .. sail max 9.5
men, 8.5 for women, limits people to one board and two sails per event which
keeps racing affordable for all. The Web site has the rules there and a list of
approved boards which is about any big race board(longboard and hybrid) built
the last twenty years.
> >
> > I wouldn't want to create yet another scoring class in MOWIND so I suggest
the MOWIND guru's replace the Hybrid class with Raceboard Class. With the
Prodigy being out of production I think it's a good move now. It at least gives
current Prodigy owners and Kona One owners a class to race in where there are
some equipment limit rules. And yes the longboarders can also race in it but
they would have the same two sail, two fin, two centerboard limit per event. If
we get numbers showing up for the class .. then of course the local RC can
divide the class up by experience, age, sex and or weight at any event for
awards. Any comments ? now is the time to chime in.
> >
> > Scott #H
> >
> > --- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <coach07@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Miami Beach November 1-7
> > > Kona One Design World Championships
> > > I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since a one
design windsurfing event was held in the USA that attracted 83 boards. The first
week of November brought competitors from around the world to participate in the
5th annual Kona One Design Class world championships in Miami Beach. What fun it
was to see competitors talking about wind shifts, currents, and strategy rather
than equipment after a race. The Kona Class uses sail size to level the playing
field for competitors of different sizes. That formula appeared to work in Miami
Beach with heavy weights, medium weights, and women all represented in the top
five!
> > > MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel Matousek , Andree
Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve Callaway
enjoyed themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made it tough
sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The Europeans
dominated the results as their skills have developed after five years of one
design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see the enthusiasm that racing
the same gear creates. Families attended and all raced, with 30% of the
participants being women!
> > > From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds varied from 7
– close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on the light wind day left me
feeling like a beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a Kona can
do in strong winds. Involuntary wave sailing on the way out through the shore
break and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge enough for many. The
speed of the top sailors was incredible as they reached off the wind. Upwind
legs were sailed mostly on just the back fins as the racers were planning all
the way around the course. I kept hoping for more moderate conditions, but to no
avail. Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front approaching kept the wind howling
for the entire week.
> > > A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends" from the
MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance to meet new folks from
all over. There truly was a great Kona spirit throughout the week that touched
everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk about the bright
future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to grow in North
America and the charter boards are available at a great price from Aerotech
sails. I find the Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in the Midwest.
The board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds and then when the
wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as well. It is truly a
board that could be your first windsurfer as well as one that you can sail in
highly competitive one design fleets throughout the world. Let's bring Kona one
design sailing into MOWIND events and then travel to the Worlds next year in
Denmark!!!
> > > The following links will tell the story better than I can, so check out
the action and join the fun of Kona One Design racing! Check out Paul sailing
out while scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in my home
viedeo! She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
> > >
> >
> >
>

#704 From: Alex Monroe <truckman1972@...>
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
truckman1972
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Yeah, 

I am not sure there is a much better board for her to learn on. If Woody, you, the guys from IA, and maybe arden race the kona class I will race it as well. 

Alex

On Nov 21, 2010, at 9:27 PM, "Steve" <coach07@...> wrote:

 

Perfect Alex! Esther will love the Kona. That is all Karen likes to sail!

--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, Alex Monroe <truckman1972@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Can anyone tell me who to talk to about getting a charter board? Esther wants one to learn on, and I will race the kona one design if anyone else wants to. I have a feeling we have 3-4 people already considering it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Alex
>
> On Nov 21, 2010, at 12:00 PM, "Arden Anderson" <ardenalan@...> wrote:
>
> > I think one design racing is a blast and wish we could get a larger fleet going in the midwest. Like Scott said, Prodigy has been doing okay but never really got over the hump.
> >
> > I would be really interested in racing kona (or any other one design class) if we had enough people in it. Who else is considering kona?
> >
> > Later,
> > Arden
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2010 11:35 AM, Scott <shaas@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > FYI .. Progressive Sports(Aerotech)is offering the Kona One boards and rigs used in the Miami Kona Worlds at reduced prices. Prices vary based on board grade of A,B,C. Talk to your dealer.
> >
> > I love the concept and competition of one design racing and really have enjoyed racing the Prodigy/Hybrid the last few years. If there is a downside it's that the race group has been fairly smallish with probably around two dozen in the mid-west that have raced Prodigy One Design over the years. Getting a dozen or more to show at one event has only happened a few times. The fun side is there is around ten local active Toledo windsurfers that have the Prodigy boards (half of them have never entered a regatta) .. but we all have a good time drag racing each other on Maumee Bay all summer.
> >
> > I presently think the Raceboard Class ..(see http://www.raceboard.org/ ) is a good way to promote windsurf racing.
> > The Raceboard Class keeps the equipment rules very simple .. sail max 9.5 men, 8.5 for women, limits people to one board and two sails per event which keeps racing affordable for all. The Web site has the rules there and a list of approved boards which is about any big race board(longboard and hybrid) built the last twenty years.
> >
> > I wouldn't want to create yet another scoring class in MOWIND so I suggest the MOWIND guru's replace the Hybrid class with Raceboard Class. With the Prodigy being out of production I think it's a good move now. It at least gives current Prodigy owners and Kona One owners a class to race in where there are some equipment limit rules. And yes the longboarders can also race in it but they would have the same two sail, two fin, two centerboard limit per event. If we get numbers showing up for the class .. then of course the local RC can divide the class up by experience, age, sex and or weight at any event for awards. Any comments ? now is the time to chime in.
> >
> > Scott #H
> >
> > --- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <coach07@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Miami Beach November 1-7
> > > Kona One Design World Championships
> > > I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since a one design windsurfing event was held in the USA that attracted 83 boards. The first week of November brought competitors from around the world to participate in the 5th annual Kona One Design Class world championships in Miami Beach. What fun it was to see competitors talking about wind shifts, currents, and strategy rather than equipment after a race. The Kona Class uses sail size to level the playing field for competitors of different sizes. That formula appeared to work in Miami Beach with heavy weights, medium weights, and women all represented in the top five!
> > > MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel Matousek , Andree Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve Callaway enjoyed themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made it tough sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The Europeans dominated the results as their skills have developed after five years of one design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see the enthusiasm that racing the same gear creates. Families attended and all raced, with 30% of the participants being women!
> > > From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds varied from 7 – close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on the light wind day left me feeling like a beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a Kona can do in strong winds. Involuntary wave sailing on the way out through the shore break and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge enough for many. The speed of the top sailors was incredible as they reached off the wind. Upwind legs were sailed mostly on just the back fins as the racers were planning all the way around the course. I kept hoping for more moderate conditions, but to no avail. Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front approaching kept the wind howling for the entire week.
> > > A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends" from the MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance to meet new folks from all over. There truly was a great Kona spirit throughout the week that touched everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk about the bright future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to grow in North America and the charter boards are available at a great price from Aerotech sails. I find the Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in the Midwest. The board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds and then when the wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as well. It is truly a board that could be your first windsurfer as well as one that you can sail in highly competitive one design fleets throughout the world. Let's bring Kona one design sailing into MOWIND events and then travel to the Worlds next year in Denmark!!!
> > > The following links will tell the story better than I can, so check out the action and join the fun of Kona One Design racing! Check out Paul sailing out while scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in my home viedeo! She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
> > >
> >
> >
>


#705 From: "Kevin Gratton" <keving@...>
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:57 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
kevingratton
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Hi Alex and fellow MoWinders,

 

I can get you a Kona charter board from the Worlds.    Below is a listing of available options.  First come, first serve as there are limited quantities.

 

USED Kona ones from Kona Worlds 2010

“A” condition = very good condition, no holes or repairs, will be scuffed up on the EVA deck pad.  20% off

“B” condition = good condition, no repairs, but the hull will have minor scratches, EVA deck pad will have cuts and scrapes 25% off

“C” condition = still in very good shape, no repairs, but the boards will show wear all over and some dents, great choice for those on a budget  30% off

 

 

Retail (new)

 

“A” condition

“B” condition

“C” condition

Kona One hull only

$1449

 

$1159

$1087

$932

Kona One w/9.0 rig

$2641

 

$2020

$1950

$1880

Kona One w/7.4 rig

$2525

 

$1935

$1864

$1794

Kona One w/6.5 rig

$2439

 

$1869

$1798

$1728

Kona One w/5.0 rig

$2398

 

$1839

$1768

$1698

9.0 rig only

$1192

 

$919

 

 

7.4 rig only

$1076

 

$835

 

 

6.5 rig only

$990

 

$762

 

 

5.0 rig only

$949

 

$731

 

 

 

I’m a firm believer in One-Design racing and I will definitely help get a Kona Class going for MoWind.  At first it might be part of the Hybrid Class till the numbers can support it’s own Class.

 

As for the International RaceBoard Class.  I think it’s a great topic that needs to be discussed and hashed over before our annual MoWind meeting.  Going to that class would mean getting different rigs for a lot of racers.  Would the 8.5 Limited Class go away?  Would the Open Class go away?  Doing things International can have benefits. MoWind has a good thing going compared to the rest of the Nation and will a change like that improve and strengthen?  Or do we keep doing what has been working.  Probably the smoothest way to do it would be to replace the Hybrid Class with the Raceboard class like Scott Haas suggests.  See how it grows and how it’s pulling racers from other classes.  It would be an evolution giving racers time to plan ahead and get different equipment if they desire.

 

Everyone that races in MoWind should reply back with their feedback, so we do what the majority want.  If you don’t give us feedback don’t complain.

 

Have a great Thanksgiving everyone!

 


Thanks,

Kevin Gratton
Owner - Certified Instructor

www.WindPowerWindsurfing.com

www.WindPowerWindsurfing.comWind Power BlogWindsurfing & Kiting Lessons

WindPowerWindsurfing.com
N7351 Winnebago Drive
Fond du Lac, WI 54935
920-922-2550

 


From: mowind@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mowind@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Monroe
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:41 PM
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mowind] Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?

 

 

Hi all

 

Can anyone tell me who to talk to about getting a charter board?  Esther wants one to learn on, and I will race the kona one design if anyone else wants to. I have a feeling we have 3-4 people already considering it. 

 

Thanks. 

 

Alex

On Nov 21, 2010, at 12:00 PM, "Arden Anderson" <ardenalan@...> wrote:

 

I think one design racing is a blast and wish we could get a larger fleet going in the midwest. Like Scott said, Prodigy has been doing okay but never really got over the hump.

I would be really interested in racing kona (or any other one design class) if we had enough people in it. Who else is considering kona?

Later,
Arden





On Nov 21, 2010 11:35 AM, Scott <shaas@...> wrote:

 

FYI .. Progressive Sports(Aerotech)is offering the Kona One boards and rigs used in the Miami Kona Worlds at reduced prices. Prices vary based on board grade of A,B,C. Talk to your dealer.

I love the concept and competition of one design racing and really have enjoyed racing the Prodigy/Hybrid the last few years. If there is a downside it's that the race group has been fairly smallish with probably around two dozen in the mid-west that have raced Prodigy One Design over the years. Getting a dozen or more to show at one event has only happened a few times. The fun side is there is around ten local active Toledo windsurfers that have the Prodigy boards (half of them have never entered a regatta) .. but we all have a good time drag racing each other on Maumee Bay all summer.

I presently think the Raceboard Class ..(see http://www.raceboard.org/ ) is a good way to promote windsurf racing.
The Raceboard Class keeps the equipment rules very simple .. sail max 9.5 men, 8.5 for women, limits people to one board and two sails per event which keeps racing affordable for all. The Web site has the rules there and a list of approved boards which is about any big race board(longboard and hybrid) built the last twenty years.

I wouldn't want to create yet another scoring class in MOWIND so I suggest the MOWIND guru's replace the Hybrid class with Raceboard Class. With the Prodigy being out of production I think it's a good move now. It at least gives current Prodigy owners and Kona One owners a class to race in where there are some equipment limit rules. And yes the longboarders can also race in it but they would have the same two sail, two fin, two centerboard limit per event. If we get numbers showing up for the class .. then of course the local RC can divide the class up by experience, age, sex and or weight at any event for awards. Any comments ? now is the time to chime in.

Scott #H

--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <coach07@...> wrote:
>
> Miami Beach November 1-7
> Kona One Design World Championships
> I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since a one design windsurfing event was held in the USA that attracted 83 boards. The first week of November brought competitors from around the world to participate in the 5th annual Kona One Design Class world championships in Miami Beach. What fun it was to see competitors talking about wind shifts, currents, and strategy rather than equipment after a race. The Kona Class uses sail size to level the playing field for competitors of different sizes. That formula appeared to work in Miami Beach with heavy weights, medium weights, and women all represented in the top five!
> MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel Matousek , Andree Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve Callaway enjoyed themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made it tough sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The Europeans dominated the results as their skills have developed after five years of one design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see the enthusiasm that racing the same gear creates. Families attended and all raced, with 30% of the participants being women!
> From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds varied from 7
– close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on the light wind day left me feeling like a beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a Kona can do in strong winds. Involuntary wave sailing on the way out through the shore break and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge enough for many. The speed of the top sailors was incredible as they reached off the wind. Upwind legs were sailed mostly on just the back fins as the racers were planning all the way around the course. I kept hoping for more moderate conditions, but to no avail. Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front approaching kept the wind howling for the entire week.
> A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends" from the MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance to meet new folks from all over. There truly was a great Kona spirit throughout the week that touched everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk about the bright future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to grow in North America and the charter boards are available at a great price from Aerotech sails. I find the Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in the Midwest. The board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds and then when the wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as well. It is truly a board that could be your first windsurfer as well as one that you can sail in highly competitive one design fleets throughout the world. Let's bring Kona one design sailing into MOWIND events and then travel to the Worlds next year in Denmark!!!
> The following links will tell the story better than I can, so check out the action and join the fun of Kona One Design racing! Check out Paul sailing out while scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in my home viedeo! She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
>


#706 From: Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...>
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:50 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
ardenalan
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I am personally more interested in a Raceboard class than Kona, mostly because it allows pumping. Years ago when pumping was NOT allowed I thought it was a huge turnoff with the amount of arguing over whether or not someone was illegally pumping on the course - easier to just allow it in my opinion. Also, I liked raceboard class because it allows people to select gear  that fits their needs within the bounds of the class. I don't like that the kona sail is not cambered, but I think the hull is pretty good overall.
 
One of the issues I see with the Raceboard class is that there are few raceboards produced by the industry any more and many people in MOWIND race on an aging fleet of Equipes, Equipe2, Megacat, IMCO, Superlight, etc. However, Starboard has made a new raceboard called the Phantom 380 that has been received quite well by those that have them (mostly Europe).  Woody has one and perhaps can comment on his experience with it.
 
Anyways, I have contact with Starboard and could inquire about them making the Phantom 380 more available in the Midwest. They will likely be interested in how many people are considering the board. In addition to boards, Starboard works closely with Severne Sails that happens to be one of the few companies making a sail that is designed for racing on a longboard, the Severne Raceboard 9.5 (and 8.5). Check out the links below.
 
I was planning to race on a 9.5 Severne Raceboard and a Phantom next season (shelving the Lechner) and perhaps others would be interested too. However, if Kona has lots of momentum I don't want to stand in its way and would consider sailing that class instead.
Link to Starboard Phantom 380
Link to Severne Raceboard Sail
 
Later,
Arden
 
 
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Kevin Gratton <keving@...> wrote:
 

Hi Alex and fellow MoWinders,

 

I can get you a Kona charter board from the Worlds.    Below is a listing of available options.  First come, first serve as there are limited quantities.

 

USED Kona ones from Kona Worlds 2010

“A” condition = very good condition, no holes or repairs, will be scuffed up on the EVA deck pad.  20% off

“B” condition = good condition, no repairs, but the hull will have minor scratches, EVA deck pad will have cuts and scrapes 25% off

“C” condition = still in very good shape, no repairs, but the boards will show wear all over and some dents, great choice for those on a budget  30% off

 

 

Retail (new)

 

“A” condition

“B” condition

“C” condition

Kona One hull only

$1449

 

$1159

$1087

$932

Kona One w/9.0 rig

$2641

 

$2020

$1950

$1880

Kona One w/7.4 rig

$2525

 

$1935

$1864

$1794

Kona One w/6.5 rig

$2439

 

$1869

$1798

$1728

Kona One w/5.0 rig

$2398

 

$1839

$1768

$1698

9.0 rig only

$1192

 

$919

 

 

7.4 rig only

$1076

 

$835

 

 

6.5 rig only

$990

 

$762

 

 

5.0 rig only

$949

 

$731

 

 

 

I’m a firm believer in One-Design racing and I will definitely help get a Kona Class going for MoWind.  At first it might be part of the Hybrid Class till the numbers can support it’s own Class.

 

As for the International RaceBoard Class.  I think it’s a great topic that needs to be discussed and hashed over before our annual MoWind meeting.  Going to that class would mean getting different rigs for a lot of racers.  Would the 8.5 Limited Class go away?  Would the Open Class go away?  Doing things International can have benefits. MoWind has a good thing going compared to the rest of the Nation and will a change like that improve and strengthen?  Or do we keep doing what has been working.  Probably the smoothest way to do it would be to replace the Hybrid Class with the Raceboard class like Scott Haas suggests.  See how it grows and how it’s pulling racers from other classes.  It would be an evolution giving racers time to plan ahead and get different equipment if they desire.

 

Everyone that races in MoWind should reply back with their feedback, so we do what the majority want.  If you don’t give us feedback don’t complain.

 

Have a great Thanksgiving everyone!

 


Thanks,

Kevin Gratton
Owner - Certified Instructor

www.WindPowerWindsurfing.com

www.WindPowerWindsurfing.comWind Power BlogWindsurfing & Kiting Lessons

WindPowerWindsurfing.com
N7351 Winnebago Drive
Fond du Lac, WI 54935
920-922-2550

 


From: mowind@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mowind@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Monroe
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:41 PM
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com


Subject: Re: [mowind] Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?

 

 

Hi all

 

Can anyone tell me who to talk to about getting a charter board?  Esther wants one to learn on, and I will race the kona one design if anyone else wants to. I have a feeling we have 3-4 people already considering it. 

 

Thanks. 

 

Alex

On Nov 21, 2010, at 12:00 PM, "Arden Anderson" <ardenalan@...> wrote:

 

I think one design racing is a blast and wish we could get a larger fleet going in the midwest. Like Scott said, Prodigy has been doing okay but never really got over the hump.

I would be really interested in racing kona (or any other one design class) if we had enough people in it. Who else is considering kona?

Later,
Arden





On Nov 21, 2010 11:35 AM, Scott <shaas@...> wrote:

 

FYI .. Progressive Sports(Aerotech)is offering the Kona One boards and rigs used in the Miami Kona Worlds at reduced prices. Prices vary based on board grade of A,B,C. Talk to your dealer.

I love the concept and competition of one design racing and really have enjoyed racing the Prodigy/Hybrid the last few years. If there is a downside it's that the race group has been fairly smallish with probably around two dozen in the mid-west that have raced Prodigy One Design over the years. Getting a dozen or more to show at one event has only happened a few times. The fun side is there is around ten local active Toledo windsurfers that have the Prodigy boards (half of them have never entered a regatta) .. but we all have a good time drag racing each other on Maumee Bay all summer.

I presently think the Raceboard Class ..(see http://www.raceboard.org/ ) is a good way to promote windsurf racing.
The Raceboard Class keeps the equipment rules very simple .. sail max 9.5 men, 8.5 for women, limits people to one board and two sails per event which keeps racing affordable for all. The Web site has the rules there and a list of approved boards which is about any big race board(longboard and hybrid) built the last twenty years.

I wouldn't want to create yet another scoring class in MOWIND so I suggest the MOWIND guru's replace the Hybrid class with Raceboard Class. With the Prodigy being out of production I think it's a good move now. It at least gives current Prodigy owners and Kona One owners a class to race in where there are some equipment limit rules. And yes the longboarders can also race in it but they would have the same two sail, two fin, two centerboard limit per event. If we get numbers showing up for the class .. then of course the local RC can divide the class up by experience, age, sex and or weight at any event for awards. Any comments ? now is the time to chime in.

Scott #H

--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <coach07@...> wrote:
>
> Miami Beach November 1-7
> Kona One Design World Championships
> I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since a one design windsurfing event was held in the USA that attracted 83 boards. The first week of November brought competitors from around the world to participate in the 5th annual Kona One Design Class world championships in Miami Beach. What fun it was to see competitors talking about wind shifts, currents, and strategy rather than equipment after a race. The Kona Class uses sail size to level the playing field for competitors of different sizes. That formula appeared to work in Miami Beach with heavy weights, medium weights, and women all represented in the top five!
> MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel Matousek , Andree Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve Callaway enjoyed themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made it tough sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The Europeans dominated the results as their skills have developed after five years of one design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see the enthusiasm that racing the same gear creates. Families attended and all raced, with 30% of the participants being women!
> From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds varied from 7
– close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on the light wind day left me feeling like a beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a Kona can do in strong winds. Involuntary wave sailing on the way out through the shore break and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge enough for many. The speed of the top sailors was incredible as they reached off the wind. Upwind legs were sailed mostly on just the back fins as the racers were planning all the way around the course. I kept hoping for more moderate conditions, but to no avail. Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front approaching kept the wind howling for the entire week.
> A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends" from the MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance to meet new folks from all over. There truly was a great Kona spirit throughout the week that touched everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk about the bright future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to grow in North America and the charter boards are available at a great price from Aerotech sails. I find the Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in the Midwest. The board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds and then when the wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as well. It is truly a board that could be your first windsurfer as well as one that you can sail in highly competitive one design fleets throughout the world. Let's bring Kona one design sailing into MOWIND events and then travel to the Worlds next year in Denmark!!!
> The following links will tell the story better than I can, so check out the action and join the fun of Kona One Design racing! Check out Paul sailing out while scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in my home viedeo! She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
> http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
>



#707 From: "Steve" <coach07@...>
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:20 pm
Subject: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
callaway.steve
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As a veteran of large fleet one design racing in the 80s, I was not aware of
arguing over anyone pumping. It was not an issue because it just wasn't done at
least where I was racing in Florida.  What bothers me about pumping (besides my
age) is that you get beat up even at a light wind regatta. How many new racers
will we get if you get beat up in order to do well? I am extremely grateful to
the MOWIND group for keeping windsurf racing going, but for it to grow, we need
to get new people involved. What do we think will be the best vehicle to do so?
I think the simple concept of one board and one sail makes Kona much more
attractive than trying to sort through what equipment to buy / use. I understand
that everyone who is currently racing has a significant investment in their
current gear and we have been getting people racing, but I want more. I want to
be able to give a simple answer to someone who wants to join the fun. I don't
think we attract many newbees with the advise to look on ebay for a used equipe
and then get sails for different conditions.  I think windsurfing still has the
same appeal that it did in the 70's and 80's but we have just made it too
complicated for mass participation. Sorry to rant, but...let's simplify!
Steve

--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...> wrote:
>
> I am personally more interested in a Raceboard class than Kona, mostly
> because it allows pumping. Years ago when pumping was NOT allowed I thought
> it was a huge turnoff with the amount of arguing over whether or not someone
> was illegally pumping on the course - easier to just allow it in my opinion.
> Also, I liked raceboard class because it allows people to select gear  that
> fits their needs within the bounds of the class. I don't like that the kona
> sail is not cambered, but I think the hull is pretty good overall.
>
> One of the issues I see with the Raceboard class is that there are few
> raceboards produced by the industry any more and many people in MOWIND race
> on an aging fleet of Equipes, Equipe2, Megacat, IMCO, Superlight, etc.
> However, Starboard has made a new raceboard called the Phantom 380 that has
> been received quite well by those that have them (mostly Europe).  Woody has
> one and perhaps can comment on his experience with it.
>
> Anyways, I have contact with Starboard and could inquire about them making
> the Phantom 380 more available in the Midwest. They will likely be
> interested in how many people are considering the board. In addition to
> boards, Starboard works closely with Severne Sails that happens to be one of
> the few companies making a sail that is designed for racing on a longboard,
> the Severne Raceboard 9.5 (and 8.5). Check out the links below.
>
> I was planning to race on a 9.5 Severne Raceboard and a Phantom next season
> (shelving the Lechner) and perhaps others would be interested too. However,
> if Kona has lots of momentum I don't want to stand in its way and would
> consider sailing that class instead.
> *Link to Starboard Phantom 380*
> http://www.star-board.com/AutumnWinter2011/products/board_phantom.php
> *Link to Severne Raceboard Sail*
> http://www.severnesails.com/2011/products/sail_raceboard.php
>
> Later,
> Arden
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Kevin Gratton <
> keving@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >  Hi Alex and fellow MoWinders,
> >
> >
> >
> > I can get you a Kona charter board from the Worlds.    Below is a listing
> > of available options.  First come, first serve as there are limited
> > quantities.
> >
> >
> >
> > USED Kona ones from Kona Worlds 2010
> >
> > "A" condition = very good condition, no holes or repairs, will be scuffed
> > up on the EVA deck pad.  20% off
> >
> > "B" condition = good condition, no repairs, but the hull will have minor
> > scratches, EVA deck pad will have cuts and scrapes 25% off
> >
> > "C" condition = still in very good shape, no repairs, but the boards will
> > show wear all over and some dents, great choice for those on a budget  30%
> > off
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Retail (new)
> >
> >
> >
> > "A" condition
> >
> > "B" condition
> >
> > "C" condition
> >
> > Kona One hull only
> >
> > $1449
> >
> >
> >
> > $1159
> >
> > $1087
> >
> > $932
> >
> > Kona One w/9.0 rig
> >
> > $2641
> >
> >
> >
> > $2020
> >
> > $1950
> >
> > $1880
> >
> > Kona One w/7.4 rig
> >
> > $2525
> >
> >
> >
> > $1935
> >
> > $1864
> >
> > $1794
> >
> > Kona One w/6.5 rig
> >
> > $2439
> >
> >
> >
> > $1869
> >
> > $1798
> >
> > $1728
> >
> > Kona One w/5.0 rig
> >
> > $2398
> >
> >
> >
> > $1839
> >
> > $1768
> >
> > $1698
> >
> > 9.0 rig only
> >
> > $1192
> >
> >
> >
> > $919
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 7.4 rig only
> >
> > $1076
> >
> >
> >
> > $835
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 6.5 rig only
> >
> > $990
> >
> >
> >
> > $762
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 5.0 rig only
> >
> > $949
> >
> >
> >
> > $731
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm a firm believer in One-Design racing and I will definitely help get a
> > Kona Class going for MoWind.  At first it might be part of the Hybrid Class
> > till the numbers can support it's own Class.
> >
> >
> >
> > As for the International RaceBoard Class.  I think it's a great topic that
> > needs to be discussed and hashed over before our annual MoWind meeting.
> > Going to that class would mean getting different rigs for a lot of racers.
> > Would the 8.5 Limited Class go away?  Would the Open Class go away?  Doing
> > things International can have benefits. MoWind has a good thing going
> > compared to the rest of the Nation and will a change like that improve and
> > strengthen?  Or do we keep doing what has been working.  Probably the
> > smoothest way to do it would be to replace the Hybrid Class with the
> > Raceboard class like Scott Haas suggests.  See how it grows and how it's
> > pulling racers from other classes.  It would be an evolution giving racers
> > time to plan ahead and get different equipment if they desire.
> >
> >
> >
> > Everyone that races in MoWind should reply back with their feedback, so we
> > do what the majority want.  If you don't give us feedback don't complain.
> >
> >
> >
> > Have a great Thanksgiving everyone!
> >
> >
> >
> > *
> > **Thanks,**
> >
> > **Kevin Gratton**
> > **Owner - Certified Instructor** *
> >
> > [image: www.WindPowerWindsurfing.com]<http://www.windpowerwindsurfing.com/>
> >
> >   *WindPowerWindsurfing.com
> > N7351 Winnebago Drive
> > Fond du Lac, WI 54935
> > 920-922-2550*
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* mowind@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mowind@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf
> > Of *Alex Monroe
> > *Sent:* Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:41 PM
> > *To:* mowind@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: [mowind] Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone tell me who to talk to about getting a charter board?  Esther
> > wants one to learn on, and I will race the kona one design if anyone else
> > wants to. I have a feeling we have 3-4 people already considering it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2010, at 12:00 PM, "Arden Anderson" <ardenalan@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I think one design racing is a blast and wish we could get a larger fleet
> > going in the midwest. Like Scott said, Prodigy has been doing okay but never
> > really got over the hump.
> >
> > I would be really interested in racing kona (or any other one design class)
> > if we had enough people in it. Who else is considering kona?
> >
> > Later,
> > Arden
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2010 11:35 AM, Scott <shaas@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > FYI .. Progressive Sports(Aerotech)is offering the Kona One boards and rigs
> > used in the Miami Kona Worlds at reduced prices. Prices vary based on board
> > grade of A,B,C. Talk to your dealer.
> >
> > I love the concept and competition of one design racing and really have
> > enjoyed racing the Prodigy/Hybrid the last few years. If there is a downside
> > it's that the race group has been fairly smallish with probably around two
> > dozen in the mid-west that have raced Prodigy One Design over the years.
> > Getting a dozen or more to show at one event has only happened a few times.
> > The fun side is there is around ten local active Toledo windsurfers that
> > have the Prodigy boards (half of them have never entered a regatta) .. but
> > we all have a good time drag racing each other on Maumee Bay all summer.
> >
> > I presently think the Raceboard Class ..(see <http://www.raceboard.org/>
> > http://www.raceboard.org/ ) is a good way to promote windsurf racing.
> > The Raceboard Class keeps the equipment rules very simple .. sail max 9.5
> > men, 8.5 for women, limits people to one board and two sails per event which
> > keeps racing affordable for all. The Web site has the rules there and a list
> > of approved boards which is about any big race board(longboard and hybrid)
> > built the last twenty years.
> >
> > I wouldn't want to create yet another scoring class in MOWIND so I suggest
> > the MOWIND guru's replace the Hybrid class with Raceboard Class. With the
> > Prodigy being out of production I think it's a good move now. It at least
> > gives current Prodigy owners and Kona One owners a class to race in where
> > there are some equipment limit rules. And yes the longboarders can also race
> > in it but they would have the same two sail, two fin, two centerboard limit
> > per event. If we get numbers showing up for the class .. then of course the
> > local RC can divide the class up by experience, age, sex and or weight at
> > any event for awards. Any comments ? now is the time to chime in.
> >
> > Scott #H
> >
> > --- In <mowind%40yahoogroups.com>mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <coach07@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Miami Beach November 1-7
> > > Kona One Design World Championships
> > > I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since a one
> > design windsurfing event was held in the USA that attracted 83 boards. The
> > first week of November brought competitors from around the world to
> > participate in the 5th annual Kona One Design Class world championships in
> > Miami Beach. What fun it was to see competitors talking about wind shifts,
> > currents, and strategy rather than equipment after a race. The Kona Class
> > uses sail size to level the playing field for competitors of different
> > sizes. That formula appeared to work in Miami Beach with heavy weights,
> > medium weights, and women all represented in the top five!
> > > MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel Matousek , Andree
> > Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve
> > Callaway enjoyed themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made it
> > tough sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The
> > Europeans dominated the results as their skills have developed after five
> > years of one design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see the
> > enthusiasm that racing the same gear creates. Families attended and all
> > raced, with 30% of the participants being women!
> > > From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds varied from
> > 7 – close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on the light wind day left
> > me feeling like a beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a
> > Kona can do in strong winds. Involuntary wave sailing on the way out through
> > the shore break and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge enough
> > for many. The speed of the top sailors was incredible as they reached off
> > the wind. Upwind legs were sailed mostly on just the back fins as the racers
> > were planning all the way around the course. I kept hoping for more moderate
> > conditions, but to no avail. Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front
> > approaching kept the wind howling for the entire week.
> > > A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends" from the
> > MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance to meet new folks
> > from all over. There truly was a great Kona spirit throughout the week that
> > touched everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk about
> > the bright future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to grow
> > in North America and the charter boards are available at a great price from
> > Aerotech sails. I find the Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in
> > the Midwest. The board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds
> > and then when the wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as
> > well. It is truly a board that could be your first windsurfer as well as one
> > that you can sail in highly competitive one design fleets throughout the
> > world. Let's bring Kona one design sailing into MOWIND events and then
> > travel to the Worlds next year in Denmark!!!
> > > The following links will tell the story better than I can, so check out
> > the action and join the fun of Kona One Design racing! Check out Paul
> > sailing out while scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in
> > my home viedeo! She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w>
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI>
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8>
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk>
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

#708 From: "Steve" <coach07@...>
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
callaway.steve
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Maybe the direction of MOWIND should go is to support the Kona as a development
class to attract new racers and try to get old timers (like me) back into it.
Most of the people who used to race in the 80s have great memories of one design
racing and if we bring it back, they might return to the sport. I will
personally bring two Konas to any regatta I attend next year and one will be
available for someone else. It has been fun to return for me, but frustrating
and not compelling enough to want to continue racing in the equipment wars of
today's events. The more complicated it gets, the smaller the mass appeal! IMHO
Steve

--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <coach07@...> wrote:
>
> As a veteran of large fleet one design racing in the 80s, I was not aware of
arguing over anyone pumping. It was not an issue because it just wasn't done at
least where I was racing in Florida.  What bothers me about pumping (besides my
age) is that you get beat up even at a light wind regatta. How many new racers
will we get if you get beat up in order to do well? I am extremely grateful to
the MOWIND group for keeping windsurf racing going, but for it to grow, we need
to get new people involved. What do we think will be the best vehicle to do so?
I think the simple concept of one board and one sail makes Kona much more
attractive than trying to sort through what equipment to buy / use. I understand
that everyone who is currently racing has a significant investment in their
current gear and we have been getting people racing, but I want more. I want to
be able to give a simple answer to someone who wants to join the fun. I don't
think we attract many newbees with the advise to look on ebay for a used equipe
and then get sails for different conditions.  I think windsurfing still has the
same appeal that it did in the 70's and 80's but we have just made it too
complicated for mass participation. Sorry to rant, but...let's simplify!
> Steve
>
> --- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, Arden Anderson <ardenalan@> wrote:
> >
> > I am personally more interested in a Raceboard class than Kona, mostly
> > because it allows pumping. Years ago when pumping was NOT allowed I thought
> > it was a huge turnoff with the amount of arguing over whether or not someone
> > was illegally pumping on the course - easier to just allow it in my opinion.
> > Also, I liked raceboard class because it allows people to select gear  that
> > fits their needs within the bounds of the class. I don't like that the kona
> > sail is not cambered, but I think the hull is pretty good overall.
> >
> > One of the issues I see with the Raceboard class is that there are few
> > raceboards produced by the industry any more and many people in MOWIND race
> > on an aging fleet of Equipes, Equipe2, Megacat, IMCO, Superlight, etc.
> > However, Starboard has made a new raceboard called the Phantom 380 that has
> > been received quite well by those that have them (mostly Europe).  Woody has
> > one and perhaps can comment on his experience with it.
> >
> > Anyways, I have contact with Starboard and could inquire about them making
> > the Phantom 380 more available in the Midwest. They will likely be
> > interested in how many people are considering the board. In addition to
> > boards, Starboard works closely with Severne Sails that happens to be one of
> > the few companies making a sail that is designed for racing on a longboard,
> > the Severne Raceboard 9.5 (and 8.5). Check out the links below.
> >
> > I was planning to race on a 9.5 Severne Raceboard and a Phantom next season
> > (shelving the Lechner) and perhaps others would be interested too. However,
> > if Kona has lots of momentum I don't want to stand in its way and would
> > consider sailing that class instead.
> > *Link to Starboard Phantom 380*
> > http://www.star-board.com/AutumnWinter2011/products/board_phantom.php
> > *Link to Severne Raceboard Sail*
> > http://www.severnesails.com/2011/products/sail_raceboard.php
> >
> > Later,
> > Arden
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Kevin Gratton <
> > keving@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Hi Alex and fellow MoWinders,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I can get you a Kona charter board from the Worlds.    Below is a listing
> > > of available options.  First come, first serve as there are limited
> > > quantities.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > USED Kona ones from Kona Worlds 2010
> > >
> > > "A" condition = very good condition, no holes or repairs, will be scuffed
> > > up on the EVA deck pad.  20% off
> > >
> > > "B" condition = good condition, no repairs, but the hull will have minor
> > > scratches, EVA deck pad will have cuts and scrapes 25% off
> > >
> > > "C" condition = still in very good shape, no repairs, but the boards will
> > > show wear all over and some dents, great choice for those on a budget  30%
> > > off
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Retail (new)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "A" condition
> > >
> > > "B" condition
> > >
> > > "C" condition
> > >
> > > Kona One hull only
> > >
> > > $1449
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $1159
> > >
> > > $1087
> > >
> > > $932
> > >
> > > Kona One w/9.0 rig
> > >
> > > $2641
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $2020
> > >
> > > $1950
> > >
> > > $1880
> > >
> > > Kona One w/7.4 rig
> > >
> > > $2525
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $1935
> > >
> > > $1864
> > >
> > > $1794
> > >
> > > Kona One w/6.5 rig
> > >
> > > $2439
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $1869
> > >
> > > $1798
> > >
> > > $1728
> > >
> > > Kona One w/5.0 rig
> > >
> > > $2398
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $1839
> > >
> > > $1768
> > >
> > > $1698
> > >
> > > 9.0 rig only
> > >
> > > $1192
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $919
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 7.4 rig only
> > >
> > > $1076
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $835
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 6.5 rig only
> > >
> > > $990
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $762
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 5.0 rig only
> > >
> > > $949
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $731
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm a firm believer in One-Design racing and I will definitely help get a
> > > Kona Class going for MoWind.  At first it might be part of the Hybrid
Class
> > > till the numbers can support it's own Class.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As for the International RaceBoard Class.  I think it's a great topic that
> > > needs to be discussed and hashed over before our annual MoWind meeting.
> > > Going to that class would mean getting different rigs for a lot of racers.
> > > Would the 8.5 Limited Class go away?  Would the Open Class go away?  Doing
> > > things International can have benefits. MoWind has a good thing going
> > > compared to the rest of the Nation and will a change like that improve and
> > > strengthen?  Or do we keep doing what has been working.  Probably the
> > > smoothest way to do it would be to replace the Hybrid Class with the
> > > Raceboard class like Scott Haas suggests.  See how it grows and how it's
> > > pulling racers from other classes.  It would be an evolution giving racers
> > > time to plan ahead and get different equipment if they desire.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Everyone that races in MoWind should reply back with their feedback, so we
> > > do what the majority want.  If you don't give us feedback don't complain.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Have a great Thanksgiving everyone!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *
> > > **Thanks,**
> > >
> > > **Kevin Gratton**
> > > **Owner - Certified Instructor** *
> > >
> > > [image:
www.WindPowerWindsurfing.com]<http://www.windpowerwindsurfing.com/>
> > >
> > >   *WindPowerWindsurfing.com
> > > N7351 Winnebago Drive
> > > Fond du Lac, WI 54935
> > > 920-922-2550*
> > >
> > >
> > >  ------------------------------
> > >
> > > *From:* mowind@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mowind@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf
> > > Of *Alex Monroe
> > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:41 PM
> > > *To:* mowind@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > *Subject:* Re: [mowind] Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me who to talk to about getting a charter board?  Esther
> > > wants one to learn on, and I will race the kona one design if anyone else
> > > wants to. I have a feeling we have 3-4 people already considering it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > On Nov 21, 2010, at 12:00 PM, "Arden Anderson" <ardenalan@>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think one design racing is a blast and wish we could get a larger fleet
> > > going in the midwest. Like Scott said, Prodigy has been doing okay but
never
> > > really got over the hump.
> > >
> > > I would be really interested in racing kona (or any other one design
class)
> > > if we had enough people in it. Who else is considering kona?
> > >
> > > Later,
> > > Arden
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  ------------------------------
> > >
> > > On Nov 21, 2010 11:35 AM, Scott <shaas@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > FYI .. Progressive Sports(Aerotech)is offering the Kona One boards and
rigs
> > > used in the Miami Kona Worlds at reduced prices. Prices vary based on
board
> > > grade of A,B,C. Talk to your dealer.
> > >
> > > I love the concept and competition of one design racing and really have
> > > enjoyed racing the Prodigy/Hybrid the last few years. If there is a
downside
> > > it's that the race group has been fairly smallish with probably around two
> > > dozen in the mid-west that have raced Prodigy One Design over the years.
> > > Getting a dozen or more to show at one event has only happened a few
times.
> > > The fun side is there is around ten local active Toledo windsurfers that
> > > have the Prodigy boards (half of them have never entered a regatta) .. but
> > > we all have a good time drag racing each other on Maumee Bay all summer.
> > >
> > > I presently think the Raceboard Class ..(see <http://www.raceboard.org/>
> > > http://www.raceboard.org/ ) is a good way to promote windsurf racing.
> > > The Raceboard Class keeps the equipment rules very simple .. sail max 9.5
> > > men, 8.5 for women, limits people to one board and two sails per event
which
> > > keeps racing affordable for all. The Web site has the rules there and a
list
> > > of approved boards which is about any big race board(longboard and hybrid)
> > > built the last twenty years.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't want to create yet another scoring class in MOWIND so I suggest
> > > the MOWIND guru's replace the Hybrid class with Raceboard Class. With the
> > > Prodigy being out of production I think it's a good move now. It at least
> > > gives current Prodigy owners and Kona One owners a class to race in where
> > > there are some equipment limit rules. And yes the longboarders can also
race
> > > in it but they would have the same two sail, two fin, two centerboard
limit
> > > per event. If we get numbers showing up for the class .. then of course
the
> > > local RC can divide the class up by experience, age, sex and or weight at
> > > any event for awards. Any comments ? now is the time to chime in.
> > >
> > > Scott #H
> > >
> > > --- In <mowind%40yahoogroups.com>mowind@yahoogroups.com, "Steve"
<coach07@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Miami Beach November 1-7
> > > > Kona One Design World Championships
> > > > I could be wrong, but it seems like a long time has passed since a one
> > > design windsurfing event was held in the USA that attracted 83 boards. The
> > > first week of November brought competitors from around the world to
> > > participate in the 5th annual Kona One Design Class world championships in
> > > Miami Beach. What fun it was to see competitors talking about wind shifts,
> > > currents, and strategy rather than equipment after a race. The Kona Class
> > > uses sail size to level the playing field for competitors of different
> > > sizes. That formula appeared to work in Miami Beach with heavy weights,
> > > medium weights, and women all represented in the top five!
> > > > MOWIND participants Lars Miller, Brad Woodworth, Pavel Matousek , Andree
> > > Gautier, Jon Darling, Roland Rioux , Ulf Jentler, Mike Fox and Steve
> > > Callaway enjoyed themselves at the event. High winds and rough seas made
it
> > > tough sledding for the lake sailors from the middle of the continent. The
> > > Europeans dominated the results as their skills have developed after five
> > > years of one design racing on the Konas. It was great fun to see the
> > > enthusiasm that racing the same gear creates. Families attended and all
> > > raced, with 30% of the participants being women!
> > > > From a personal point of view, it was frustrating. The winds varied from
> > > 7 – close to 30 knots with 2 meter swells even on the light wind day left
> > > me feeling like a beginner. But everyone had an opportunity to see what a
> > > Kona can do in strong winds. Involuntary wave sailing on the way out
through
> > > the shore break and riding the waves back to the beach was challenge
enough
> > > for many. The speed of the top sailors was incredible as they reached off
> > > the wind. Upwind legs were sailed mostly on just the back fins as the
racers
> > > were planning all the way around the course. I kept hoping for more
moderate
> > > conditions, but to no avail. Tropical storm Tomas and a cold front
> > > approaching kept the wind howling for the entire week.
> > > > A great thing about the Kona worlds was to see "old friends" from the
> > > MOWIND events in a new environment and to get a chance to meet new folks
> > > from all over. There truly was a great Kona spirit throughout the week
that
> > > touched everyone there. Talk about the good old days morphed into talk
about
> > > the bright future of Kona one design racing. The Kona class is eager to
grow
> > > in North America and the charter boards are available at a great price
from
> > > Aerotech sails. I find the Kona board to be a perfect board for sailing in
> > > the Midwest. The board has enough volume to be fun to sail in light winds
> > > and then when the wind kicks up, it's design makes it fun to sail then as
> > > well. It is truly a board that could be your first windsurfer as well as
one
> > > that you can sail in highly competitive one design fleets throughout the
> > > world. Let's bring Kona one design sailing into MOWIND events and then
> > > travel to the Worlds next year in Denmark!!!
> > > > The following links will tell the story better than I can, so check out
> > > the action and join the fun of Kona One Design racing! Check out Paul
> > > sailing out while scaring the girls on the beach at the 13:03 time mark in
> > > my home viedeo! She must have seen something in the way he sailed????
> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY>
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA37NOa5dMY
> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w>
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/4/hbfZru2RV-w
> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI>
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/3/D4BrCK3HMqI
> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8>
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/2/DR4KLuqLXo8
> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk>
> > > http://www.youtube.com/user/konanordic#p/u/1/j1XJ3xVq4uk
> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk>
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crZKPlchWsk
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

#709 From: Brad Woodworth <windsurfwoody@...>
Date: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:24 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
windsurfwoody
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yes I do have the new Starboard Phantom 380 and I love it! I love the fact that a manufacturer has mad a bold move to develop not just a raceboard, but a great raceboard! The Phantom is without a doubt the best raceboard out there right now, I just need to be a better sailor to prove it so! haha!! Arden, I too am thinking about the Severne 9.5. It looks promising and I've had some email exchanges with Remi Vila who helped test it on the 380 for Severne.
 
BUT! After attending the Kona Worlds in Miami, I am trul;y hooked into the Kona concept. It doesn't mean I'm going to ditch my Phantom or stop racing it, but I believe the Kona Class has a bright bright future in the windsurfing community world wide. Now we all know we're not going to go out  and buy a whole new kit (well I probably will anyway! haha) to promote the Kona Class, but I think some of their thinking can be brought into the MOWIND scene.
 
Here are some of my ideas:
 
- NO PUMPING allowed in the B Fleet & Sport Fleets. A-Fleet can pump their butts off if they so choose!
- drop the Hybrid Class & 8.5m limited Class in favour of a new Raceboard Class with the international sail limit of 9.5 for men, 8.5 for women (Prodigy and Kona would fall under the 9.5m sail limit)
- if there are a minimum of 5 boats (Prodigy, Kona, or Raceboard) score them seperately that way the current Prodigy owners will not be at a disadvantage of the 9.5m sail size of the Raceboard Class and anyone wanting to race Kona will be on equal playing ground with the other Kona boards in their weight to sail ratio established by the Kona Class.
- Formula boards should race in a Formula Class. Courses in the Midwest are designed for longboards, not Formula. If the wind is up we should switch to slalom racing. Formula is a dying class. This starts to simplify people's quiver ALOT!
- encourage anyone new to windsurfing or the Midwest racing scene to get on a Kona board for race or play. The Kona also works great as a SUP! The women love the funky flower graphics on the nicely padded deck. The board is a great beginner board, works decent in light air, but comes alive when the wind is up!
 
Woody - CAN757


----- Original Message -----
From: Steve <coach07@...>
Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:20 pm
Subject: [mowind] Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com

> As a veteran of large fleet one design racing in the 80s, I was
> not aware of arguing over anyone pumping. It was not an issue
> because it just wasn't done at least where I was racing in
> Florida.  What bothers me about pumping (besides my age) is
> that you get beat up even at a light wind regatta. How many new
> racers will we get if you get beat up in order to do well? I am
> extremely grateful to the MOWIND group for keeping windsurf
> racing going, but for it to grow, we need to get new people
> involved. What do we think will be the best vehicle to do so? I
> think the simple concept of one board and one sail makes Kona
> much more attractive than trying to sort through what equipment
> to buy / use. I understand that everyone who is currently racing
> has a significant investment in their current gear and we have
> been getting people racing, but I want more. I want to be able
> to give a simple answer to someone who wants to join the fun. I
> don't think we attract many newbees with the advise to look on
> ebay for a used equipe and then get sails for different
> conditions.  I think windsurfing still has the same appeal
> that it did in the 70's and 80's but we have just made it too
> complicated for mass participation. Sorry to rant, but...let's
> simplify!Steve
>
> --- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...>
> wrote:>
> > I am personally more interested in a Raceboard class than
> Kona, mostly
> > because it allows pumping. Years ago when pumping was NOT
> allowed I thought
> > it was a huge turnoff with the amount of arguing over whether
> or not someone
> > was illegally pumping on the course - easier to just allow it
> in my opinion.
> > Also, I liked raceboard class because it allows people to
> select gear  that
> > fits their needs within the bounds of the class. I don't like
> that the kona
> > sail is not cambered, but I think the hull is pretty good overall.
> >
> > One of the issues I see with the Raceboard class is that there
> are few
> > raceboards produced by the industry any more and many people
> in MOWIND race
> > on an aging fleet of Equipes, Equipe2, Megacat, IMCO,
> Superlight, etc.
> > However, Starboard has made a new raceboard called the Phantom
> 380 that has
> > been received quite well by those that have them (mostly
> Europe).  Woody has
> > one and perhaps can comment on his experience with it.
> >
> > Anyways, I have contact with Starboard and could inquire about
> them making
> > the Phantom 380 more available in the Midwest. They will
> likely be
> > interested in how many people are considering the board. In
> addition to
> > boards, Starboard works closely with Severne Sails that
> happens to be one of
> > the few companies making a sail that is designed for racing on
> a longboard,
> > the Severne Raceboard 9.5 (and 8.5). Check out the links below.
> >
> > I was planning to race on a 9.5 Severne Raceboard and a
> Phantom next season
> > (shelving the Lechner) and perhaps others would be interested
> too. However,
> > if Kona has lots of momentum I don't want to stand in its way
> and would
> > consider sailing that class instead.
> > *Link to Starboard Phantom 380*
> > http://www.star-
> board.com/AutumnWinter2011/products/board_phantom.php> *Link to
> Severne Raceboard Sail*
> > http://www.severnesails.com/2011/products/sail_raceboard.php
> >
> > Later,
> > Arden

#710 From: "Del Carpenter" <delcarpenter@...>
Date: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:26 am
Subject: Re: Kona Worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND
del.carpenter
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Questions about boards and sails:
1. Am I correct my 1991 or 1992 Equipe XR is not Raceboard Class legal?  (The
earliest Equipe listed as an approved hull is a 1994 Equipe II)
2. Are any of the Lechner boards which won so many MOWIND races lately recent
enough to be the 1993 Lechner L380 model (which is the only Lechner approved for
the Raceboard class)?

Comments:  If the Open & Hybrid sailors switch to either the Kona or Raceboard
class, the combination of the sail limits (one for Kona per sailor per event,
two for Raceboard per sailor per event) plus the hull limits (one per sailor per
event)  and our midwestern conditions of quite light wind one day and quite
strong wind the next day at the same event may mix-up our winners with one group
winning the light wind races and a different group winning the slalom races with
the overall winners possibly being 2nd tier in both wind strengths but more
consistent overall.  I think a change to either class will mix up our positions
and keep them more mixed up as long as our winds keep being flukey.
      The Raceboard allowance of two sails per event, is more attractive to me
given our flukey conditions than the Kona allowance of only one sail per event. 
My guess is the wider range of designers & manufacturers in the Raceboard class
is healthier for windsurfing racing  than a single source such as Kona.
      I do like the Kona &  Raceboard limits on the number of sails which a
sailor can use in an event .

#711 From: Brad Woodworth <windsurfwoody@...>
Date: Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Kona Worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND
windsurfwoody
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I think the intent is not to have every rule in place from the ISAF Raceboard Class of board & sail combos Del, but rather take some of the rules like limit the sail size to 9.5m for men and 8.5m for women. There are many boards not listed on the official Raceboard class list that are used in the Midwest so obviously MOWIND would have to overlook this rule as well.
The number of sails one wishes to use for an event I think should still stay in place. Most of us have a pretty well established quiver by now. The Kona Class sail limitation of one sail will be for those interested in competing with Kona One Design gear only. It doesn't mean if someone had a Kona board they couldn't race with a Neil Pryde 9.5m sail, they would just be scored in the "Raceboard Class", but not be scored in a Kona Class if there were enough Kona boards racing at that particular event to warrant a Kona One Design Class.
Limiting any class (even Open) to registering 2 sails per event may be something to look at down the road. It would be an attractive option for a new racer thinking about a race quiver, or us aging racers thinking about simplifying our quiver. But again, Kona makes it even easier for the new or old racer by having just one sail size to match his/her weight!
 
Good discussion!
 
 
 
 
 


----- Original Message -----
From: Del Carpenter <delcarpenter@...>
Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:26 pm
Subject: [mowind] Re: Kona Worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com

> Questions about boards and sails:
> 1. Am I correct my 1991 or 1992 Equipe XR is not Raceboard Class
> legal?  (The earliest Equipe listed as an approved hull is
> a 1994 Equipe II)
> 2. Are any of the Lechner boards which won so many MOWIND races
> lately recent enough to be the 1993 Lechner L380 model (which is
> the only Lechner approved for the Raceboard class)?
>
> Comments:  If the Open & Hybrid sailors switch to either
> the Kona or Raceboard class, the combination of the sail limits
> (one for Kona per sailor per event, two for Raceboard per sailor
> per event) plus the hull limits (one per sailor per event) 
> and our midwestern conditions of quite light wind one day and
> quite strong wind the next day at the same event may mix-up our
> winners with one group winning the light wind races and a
> different group winning the slalom races with the overall
> winners possibly being 2nd tier in both wind strengths but more
> consistent overall.  I think a change to either class will
> mix up our positions and keep them more mixed up as long as our
> winds keep being flukey.
>      The Raceboard allowance of two sails
> per event, is more attractive to me given our flukey conditions
> than the Kona allowance of only one sail per event.  My
> guess is the wider range of designers & manufacturers in the
> Raceboard class is healthier for windsurfing racing  than a
> single source such as Kona.
>      I do like the Kona &  Raceboard
> limits on the number of sails which a sailor can use in an event
> .  
>
>

#712 From: Philip S <PTSMANTUA@...>
Date: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Kona Worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND
ptsmantua
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Hi everyone!

I am just catching up on yet another great discussion. I haven't studied the comments and will let others dissect the rules and offer the best proposals for next season.

What DID catch my eye was 80+ boards at one event - all one design. Thats about 1/4 the size of the Windsurfer Worlds in 1984 in Ontario.

Perhaps not a bad idea to consider.

Warm Regards

Philip

US 287

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Brad Woodworth <windsurfwoody@...> wrote:
 

I think the intent is not to have every rule in place from the ISAF Raceboard Class of board & sail combos Del, but rather take some of the rules like limit the sail size to 9.5m for men and 8.5m for women. There are many boards not listed on the official Raceboard class list that are used in the Midwest so obviously MOWIND would have to overlook this rule as well.
The number of sails one wishes to use for an event I think should still stay in place. Most of us have a pretty well established quiver by now. The Kona Class sail limitation of one sail will be for those interested in competing with Kona One Design gear only. It doesn't mean if someone had a Kona board they couldn't race with a Neil Pryde 9.5m sail, they would just be scored in the "Raceboard Class", but not be scored in a Kona Class if there were enough Kona boards racing at that particular event to warrant a Kona One Design Class.
Limiting any class (even Open) to registering 2 sails per event may be something to look at down the road. It would be an attractive option for a new racer thinking about a race quiver, or us aging racers thinking about simplifying our quiver. But again, Kona makes it even easier for the new or old racer by having just one sail size to match his/her weight!
 
Good discussion!
 
 
 
 
 


----- Original Message -----
From: Del Carpenter <delcarpenter@...>
Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:26 pm
Subject: [mowind] Re: Kona Worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com

> Questions about boards and sails:
> 1. Am I correct my 1991 or 1992 Equipe XR is not Raceboard Class
> legal?  (The earliest Equipe listed as an approved hull is
> a 1994 Equipe II)
> 2. Are any of the Lechner boards which won so many MOWIND races
> lately recent enough to be the 1993 Lechner L380 model (which is
> the only Lechner approved for the Raceboard class)?
>
> Comments:  If the Open & Hybrid sailors switch to either
> the Kona or Raceboard class, the combination of the sail limits
> (one for Kona per sailor per event, two for Raceboard per sailor
> per event) plus the hull limits (one per sailor per event) 
> and our midwestern conditions of quite light wind one day and
> quite strong wind the next day at the same event may mix-up our
> winners with one group winning the light wind races and a
> different group winning the slalom races with the overall
> winners possibly being 2nd tier in both wind strengths but more
> consistent overall.  I think a change to either class will
> mix up our positions and keep them more mixed up as long as our
> winds keep being flukey.
>      The Raceboard allowance of two sails
> per event, is more attractive to me given our flukey conditions
> than the Kona allowance of only one sail per event.  My
> guess is the wider range of designers & manufacturers in the
> Raceboard class is healthier for windsurfing racing  than a
> single source such as Kona.
>      I do like the Kona &  Raceboard
> limits on the number of sails which a sailor can use in an event
> .  
>
>



#713 From: "Scott" <shaas@...>
Date: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
amokaman
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Arden noted the StarBoard Phanton 380 longboard but also note Exocet this year 
has the Elite 380 which is remodeled version of the Kona Warp 380X.  It looks
like a really big fast longboard ship to me.   Also Exocet has a new X2 350
which is a wide style longboard at 230 liters in volume.
http://www.exocet-original.com/products/380elite.asp
http://www.exocet-original.com/products/x2.asp

Those Exocet race boards are listing for around $2700, that makes the old $300
used 94 Equipe which is 235 in volume I bought a couple years ago look pretty
good to me.  Still I'm very interested in the wider style Exocet X2.  I just
don't enjoy riding the tippy longboards these days. I prefer the wide stable
Prodigy because I don't have the balance I had in my younger years.  I ride the
Prodigy near all the time now and I think I fell in maybe once all of last
season.


Scott #H


--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...> wrote:
>
> I am personally more interested in a Raceboard class than Kona, mostly
> because it allows pumping. Years ago when pumping was NOT allowed I thought
> it was a huge turnoff with the amount of arguing over whether or not someone
> was illegally pumping on the course - easier to just allow it in my opinion.
> Also, I liked raceboard class because it allows people to select gear  that
> fits their needs within the bounds of the class. I don't like that the kona
> sail is not cambered, but I think the hull is pretty good overall.
>
> One of the issues I see with the Raceboard class is that there are few
> raceboards produced by the industry any more and many people in MOWIND race
> on an aging fleet of Equipes, Equipe2, Megacat, IMCO, Superlight, etc.
> However, Starboard has made a new raceboard called the Phantom 380 that has
> been received quite well by those that have them (mostly Europe).  Woody has
> one and perhaps can comment on his experience with it.
>
> Anyways, I have contact with Starboard and could inquire about them making
> the Phantom 380 more available in the Midwest. They will likely be
> interested in how many people are considering the board. In addition to
> boards, Starboard works closely with Severne Sails that happens to be one of
> the few companies making a sail that is designed for racing on a longboard,
> the Severne Raceboard 9.5 (and 8.5). Check out the links below.
>
> I was planning to race on a 9.5 Severne Raceboard and a Phantom next season
> (shelving the Lechner) and perhaps others would be interested too. However,
> if Kona has lots of momentum I don't want to stand in its way and would
> consider sailing that class instead.
> *Link to Starboard Phantom 380*
> http://www.star-board.com/AutumnWinter2011/products/board_phantom.php
> *Link to Severne Raceboard Sail*
> http://www.severnesails.com/2011/products/sail_raceboard.php
>
> Later,
> Arden
>

#714 From: Mike Derr <mike@...>
Date: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
mederr1
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Hi All. What is the board used in past and future Olympics?

thx

Mike "M"



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Scott <shaas@...> wrote:
 

Arden noted the StarBoard Phanton 380 longboard but also note Exocet this year has the Elite 380 which is remodeled version of the Kona Warp 380X. It looks like a really big fast longboard ship to me. Also Exocet has a new X2 350 which is a wide style longboard at 230 liters in volume.
http://www.exocet-original.com/products/380elite.asp
http://www.exocet-original.com/products/x2.asp

Those Exocet race boards are listing for around $2700, that makes the old $300 used 94 Equipe which is 235 in volume I bought a couple years ago look pretty good to me. Still I'm very interested in the wider style Exocet X2. I just don't enjoy riding the tippy longboards these days. I prefer the wide stable Prodigy because I don't have the balance I had in my younger years. I ride the Prodigy near all the time now and I think I fell in maybe once all of last season.


Scott #H


--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...> wrote:
>
> I am personally more interested in a Raceboard class than Kona, mostly
> because it allows pumping. Years ago when pumping was NOT allowed I thought
> it was a huge turnoff with the amount of arguing over whether or not someone
> was illegally pumping on the course - easier to just allow it in my opinion.
> Also, I liked raceboard class because it allows people to select gear that
> fits their needs within the bounds of the class. I don't like that the kona
> sail is not cambered, but I think the hull is pretty good overall.
>
> One of the issues I see with the Raceboard class is that there are few
> raceboards produced by the industry any more and many people in MOWIND race
> on an aging fleet of Equipes, Equipe2, Megacat, IMCO, Superlight, etc.
> However, Starboard has made a new raceboard called the Phantom 380 that has
> been received quite well by those that have them (mostly Europe). Woody has
> one and perhaps can comment on his experience with it.
>
> Anyways, I have contact with Starboard and could inquire about them making
> the Phantom 380 more available in the Midwest. They will likely be
> interested in how many people are considering the board. In addition to
> boards, Starboard works closely with Severne Sails that happens to be one of
> the few companies making a sail that is designed for racing on a longboard,
> the Severne Raceboard 9.5 (and 8.5). Check out the links below.
>
> I was planning to race on a 9.5 Severne Raceboard and a Phantom next season
> (shelving the Lechner) and perhaps others would be interested too. However,
> if Kona has lots of momentum I don't want to stand in its way and would
> consider sailing that class instead.
> *Link to Starboard Phantom 380*
> http://www.star-board.com/AutumnWinter2011/products/board_phantom.php
> *Link to Severne Raceboard Sail*
> http://www.severnesails.com/2011/products/sail_raceboard.php
>
> Later,
> Arden
>



#715 From: "Kevin Gratton" <keving@...>
Date: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:34 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?
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Hey Mike,  Are you mumbling in your sleep or are you really going to wakeup and start racing again?  I’ll help you get your sea legs again.

 

The Olympic Board past and present is the Neil Pryde RSX.

 

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From: mowind@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mowind@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Derr
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:58 AM
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mowind] Re: Kona worlds - Raceboard Class in MOWIND ?

 

 

Hi All. What is the board used in past and future Olympics?

thx

Mike "M"


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Scott <shaas@...> wrote:

 

Arden noted the StarBoard Phanton 380 longboard but also note Exocet this year has the Elite 380 which is remodeled version of the Kona Warp 380X. It looks like a really big fast longboard ship to me. Also Exocet has a new X2 350 which is a wide style longboard at 230 liters in volume.
http://www.exocet-original.com/products/380elite.asp
http://www.exocet-original.com/products/x2.asp

Those Exocet race boards are listing for around $2700, that makes the old $300 used 94 Equipe which is 235 in volume I bought a couple years ago look pretty good to me. Still I'm very interested in the wider style Exocet X2. I just don't enjoy riding the tippy longboards these days. I prefer the wide stable Prodigy because I don't have the balance I had in my younger years. I ride the Prodigy near all the time now and I think I fell in maybe once all of last season.


Scott #H


--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...> wrote:
>
> I am personally more interested in a Raceboard class than Kona, mostly
> because it allows pumping. Years ago when pumping was NOT allowed I thought
> it was a huge turnoff with the amount of arguing over whether or not someone
> was illegally pumping on the course - easier to just allow it in my opinion.
> Also, I liked raceboard class because it allows people to select gear that
> fits their needs within the bounds of the class. I don't like that the kona
> sail is not cambered, but I think the hull is pretty good overall.
>
> One of the issues I see with the Raceboard class is that there are few
> raceboards produced by the industry any more and many people in MOWIND race
> on an aging fleet of Equipes, Equipe2, Megacat, IMCO, Superlight, etc.
> However, Starboard has made a new raceboard called the Phantom 380 that has
> been received quite well by those that have them (mostly Europe). Woody has
> one and perhaps can comment on his experience with it.
>
> Anyways, I have contact with Starboard and could inquire about them making
> the Phantom 380 more available in the Midwest. They will likely be
> interested in how many people are considering the board. In addition to
> boards, Starboard works closely with Severne Sails that happens to be one of
> the few companies making a sail that is designed for racing on a longboard,
> the Severne Raceboard 9.5 (and 8.5). Check out the links below.
>
> I was planning to race on a 9.5 Severne Raceboard and a Phantom next season
> (shelving the Lechner) and perhaps others would be interested too. However,
> if Kona has lots of momentum I don't want to stand in its way and would
> consider sailing that class instead.
> *Link to Starboard Phantom 380*
> http://www.star-board.com/AutumnWinter2011/products/board_phantom.php
> *Link to Severne Raceboard Sail*
> http://www.severnesails.com/2011/products/sail_raceboard.php
>
> Later,
> Arden
>

 


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