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Re: [mowind] Re: The Favoritism Issue

I strongly agree with Jeff's points. Safety/fleet-size is really the only definite reason to split up starts. Any other reasons are a matter of preference. MO'racing, MO'fun, MOWIND.

----- Original Message ----
From: Jeff & Bonnie Koeberl <jeffkoeberl@...>
To: mowind@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 5, 2008 12:02:23 PM
Subject: [mowind] Re: The Favoritism Issue

I was thinking about what Scott said below, and about the race
director meeting the other night, and have personally come to the
following conclusions.

1) At midwinters, we (longboard & hybird) got to race 10 races, while
Formula only got to race 4 races. I was there to race, so I'm pretty
happy I wasn't in the formula fleet - aside from going out and trying
Friday & Saturday, they only got to actually race mid-day Sunday.
Thus, we got more than our money's worth! However, interesting to
note that in the recent Windsurfing magazine, no reference to the fact
there even was a longboard or hybird fleet. Conclusion: though the
windsurfing world in general seems to ignore non-formula (or non-Kona)
equipment, we get more time on the water going generally faster. I'd
rather be there than on the beach!

2) While I had been of the opinion that formula deserved its own start
as it is a different type of race, I've changed my mind. Open lives
by regional customs in other regions (Tino for example did not even
cater to an open fleet), formula can live with our customs and start
with us in our region. If they don't get their wind, they can sit and
watch. Starts should take place as long as there is any wind. The
only deviation should be if fleet size dictates the prudence of
splitting A fleet.

3) We must be sure to abide by USW NRT Open fleet rules as well as
other fleet rules even if those rules are not followed in other
regions.

4) It is about racing and having fun. More racing, more fun.

--- In mowind@yahoogroups. com, "Scott Haas" <shaas@...> wrote:
>
we only got to race in the light air as did the Kona
> fleet. The few hours the wind was up each day the Formula Fleet
was
> doing or trying to do back to back races so they had the start
> line.



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Mon May 5, 2008 5:18 pm

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Race Directors need to cater to everyone equally and unfortunately that doesn't always happen on the water. One example I'll give is from the 2008...
Scott Haas
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May 2, 2008
5:53 pm

This is a valid issue, especially for those who travel long distances to events. I remember the Nationals at Worthington in 2003. There were only four races...
Jack
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May 2, 2008
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Thanks to Jack for reinforcing the point with another example. I'll have to correct Jack here a bit as in 1994 the Nationals were held in Lorain Ohio. Though...
Scott Haas
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May 5, 2008
12:39 pm

I also attended the '94 Nationals in Lorraine, but I had a much different read on it. However, I was not close to the planning committee and was only 16 years...
Arden Anderson
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May 5, 2008
2:24 pm

I was thinking about what Scott said below, and about the race director meeting the other night, and have personally come to the following conclusions. 1) At...
Jeff & Bonnie Koeberl
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May 5, 2008
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I strongly agree with Jeff's points. Safety/fleet-size is really the only definite reason to split up starts. Any other reasons are a matter of preference....
Arden Anderson
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May 5, 2008
5:18 pm

I also agree with the single starts for all. Perhaps a longer start line would alleviate some concerns of collision with Formula boards going full speed to the...
Brad Woodworth
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May 5, 2008
8:55 pm

Great point Woody. I don't fault Tino for not supporting Open, as he has a great event with Formula keeping him busy. Nor do I fault Steve with his decision...
Jeff & Bonnie Koeberl
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May 5, 2008
10:30 pm

The articles Woody mentioned require good writers and even better photographers. Events at Worthington have been covered by several professional or...
Del Carpenter
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May 5, 2008
11:07 pm

How do you read this without having to look at all the posts multiple times? Hoping to see ya at the Dam Jam. Steve...
Steve Johnson
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May 7, 2008
7:17 pm

Steve, I have my group preferences set to deliver all posts to my email. Then I see each post as a separate incoming message with mowind@yahoogroups.com in the...
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