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Race Directors need to cater to everyone equally and unfortunately
that doesn't always happen on the water. One example I'll give is
from the 2008 Mid-Winters where there was only a smidgen of a
Longboard/Hybrid fleet this year. Just 2 Hybrid boards and about 8
Longboards in A Fleet. Though we showed up and paid the same
registration fee we only got to race in the light air as did the Kona
fleet. The few hours the wind was up each day the Formula Fleet was
doing or trying to do back to back races so they had the start
line. Yes I know the event is billed as the Kona and Formula North
Americans so I shouldn't really complain much. Still I think you
get the picture of what's going on and why perhaps the other fleets
are dwindling at that event. At the Island Style Classic in
Sarasota the last two years there has been two courses, one close to
shore and one out farther in deeper water to accommodate the Formula
fleet. They have the manpower at the Sailing Squadron to do that
and that's great but most event organizers don't have the resources
to set multiple courses.

Another example I'll give is the US Windsurfing National Champion
title in recent years comes from the Formula Class winner not the
Open Class Longboard racers as it did for many years. I race in
the Hybrid class so I'd like to know why the 1st place finisher in it
can't be crowned National Champion?

An idea I have to equal things out is that perhaps events should go
back to one course for all with twice around legs for A-Fleet, once
around for Sport Fleet and a shorter upwind for Workshop Fleet.
There may be some new course layouts developed but my idea is
everyone in A-Fleet would be going the same distance. In most events
everyone in A-Fleet would start together unless you had like fifty on
the start line then the race director could divide up the classes
into two A starts. In a larger event like the US Windsurfing
Nationals the time of the first finisher in each class would be
kept. The best average first finisher time of each class would
determine which class the 1st place National Champion came from, the
class winner of the class with the second best 1st average finishing
time would get 2nd place National honors and so forth. That way
winners from all classes end up on the final grand title podium. I
think that format promotes some good competition between the
different groups. Even though you are out in front of your class
during a race you still are racing the clock so there is no holding
back. Currently when the wind is down the Formula racers don't go
out because they don't want to scholog around their big course.
So going back to a smaller sized course might be beneficial in that
it could keep them on the water in lower winds.

Hope to hear some feedback and other ideas.
The Alum Creek Race in Columbus is this weekend ! I'm going!

Scott Haas - #H - Prodigy One Design






Fri May 2, 2008 5:53 pm

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Race Directors need to cater to everyone equally and unfortunately that doesn't always happen on the water. One example I'll give is from the 2008...
Scott Haas
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May 2, 2008
5:53 pm

This is a valid issue, especially for those who travel long distances to events. I remember the Nationals at Worthington in 2003. There were only four races...
Jack
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May 2, 2008
6:50 pm

Thanks to Jack for reinforcing the point with another example. I'll have to correct Jack here a bit as in 1994 the Nationals were held in Lorain Ohio. Though...
Scott Haas
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May 5, 2008
12:39 pm

I also attended the '94 Nationals in Lorraine, but I had a much different read on it. However, I was not close to the planning committee and was only 16 years...
Arden Anderson
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May 5, 2008
2:24 pm

I was thinking about what Scott said below, and about the race director meeting the other night, and have personally come to the following conclusions. 1) At...
Jeff & Bonnie Koeberl
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May 5, 2008
5:02 pm

I strongly agree with Jeff's points. Safety/fleet-size is really the only definite reason to split up starts. Any other reasons are a matter of preference....
Arden Anderson
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May 5, 2008
5:18 pm

I also agree with the single starts for all. Perhaps a longer start line would alleviate some concerns of collision with Formula boards going full speed to the...
Brad Woodworth
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May 5, 2008
8:55 pm

Great point Woody. I don't fault Tino for not supporting Open, as he has a great event with Formula keeping him busy. Nor do I fault Steve with his decision...
Jeff & Bonnie Koeberl
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May 5, 2008
10:30 pm

The articles Woody mentioned require good writers and even better photographers. Events at Worthington have been covered by several professional or...
Del Carpenter
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May 5, 2008
11:07 pm

How do you read this without having to look at all the posts multiple times? Hoping to see ya at the Dam Jam. Steve...
Steve Johnson
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May 7, 2008
7:17 pm

Steve, I have my group preferences set to deliver all posts to my email. Then I see each post as a separate incoming message with mowind@yahoogroups.com in the...
Arden Anderson
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May 7, 2008
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