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Re: Mille Lacs Crossing 2007

IMHO: If the 'Notice of Race' states that racing is scheduled all
three days, and if a race committee is on the water actually scoring
the races, then the races should count. That notice should also
indicate who is scored for each race. In other words, if everyone is
in same fleet all weekend, then those that only race in crossing would
be penalized for not racing in course races and thus the crossing just
becomes another race. Overall winner is not necessarily the crossing
winner. Is that what the regatta wants to represent? By way of
example - in Kevin's fall race there is a distance race, it counts for
double race points, but the winner of that race is not recognized as
winner of the regatta. A different model might be to have the fleet
just competing in the crossing scored only with those there for the
crossing, but offer course racing for those who want to course race.
You could then offer awards for crossing (and points), but also
overall awards for regatta based on course racing plus distance racing.

I completely agree with Arden that scoring those only there for the
crossing (and that is the current name for the regatta) along with
course racers is 'gaming' the scoring. However, there is a great
opportunity to give this overall event more prestige, points and
opportunity by providing both course and crossing points for the event.

--- In mowind@yahoogroups.com, Arden Anderson <ardenalan@...> wrote:

> This is just my opinion and some of my concerns to make sure we
don't end up "gaming" some of the season scoring rules at a regatta.
Please respond with any feedback and I am happy to go along with
whatever the consensus is. Finally, I think it is great that Jack is
letting us know that this will likely be a high point value event
ahead of time so that we can draw a good fleet to the event. I am all
for anything that gets more people to the events.
>
> Later,
> Arden





Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:14 pm

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This is the word so far on the Mille Lacs Crossing 2007. I will post the notice of race as soon as I get it. You can check fleet8.com as well. Racing will be...
Jack
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Sep 10, 2007
3:29 pm

Do you know if there will be racing for sure on Friday? If there is only going to be racing IF the wind is deemed good (say 10 or more), I don't know that I...
Arden Anderson
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Sep 10, 2007
4:28 pm

IMHO: If the 'Notice of Race' states that racing is scheduled all three days, and if a race committee is on the water actually scoring the races, then the...
Jeff & Bonnie Koeberl
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Sep 10, 2007
5:14 pm

I have to say that if "The Mille Lacs Crossing" is a part of the MOWIND points series, the points should be awarded to all participants including course...
- Woody -
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Sep 10, 2007
6:06 pm

I agree with all of your points, let's just try to get something standardized before the event so we know what to expect. The thing that I am still a bit leary...
Arden Anderson
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Sep 10, 2007
5:49 pm

Woody, I agree with you in principle, but in practice the Mille Lacs Crossing has a lot more people that sail the distance only than at other events. In fact,...
Arden Anderson
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Sep 10, 2007
6:49 pm

I agree with Arden (big surprise). Mille Lacs traditionally had been a crossing (long distance) event with "optional" course racing. Before the organized...
Adam Anderson
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Sep 11, 2007
4:13 pm

Using your example Adam, we would have to eliminate DNS's from every race including course racing, Unless I read that wrong? How would we know if someone that...
- Woody -
windsurfwoody
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Sep 11, 2007
4:48 pm

This was my point at the beginning of this conversation. First, the Notice of Race has to identify what expectations are. Not fair to anyone to arrive on...
Jeff & Bonnie Koeberl
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Sep 11, 2007
5:01 pm

Hi Everyone, I've been watching this discussion and I thinks it's great. We need to continue this with future issues. Would be nice if more people would...
Kevin Gratton
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Sep 11, 2007
7:24 pm

Please read the entire message. I think the thought process moves into a pretty reasonable conclusion at the end of the message. Good point Woody. I didn't...
Adam Anderson
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Sep 11, 2007
6:20 pm

Great points Kevin. Thanks for your input and good luck at the I-20's. Also, I'll probably see you on the water in about an hour...20-30 (41mph gusts last I...
Arden Anderson
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Sep 11, 2007
8:07 pm

I think this is a great discussion. I think it is great that we try to make the Mille Lac Crossing a larger event for points and also try to include more...
uswe22
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Sep 11, 2007
10:22 pm

I agree that Mike needs to be a major part of this discussion and Fleet 8 and MOWIND need to join forces or at least work together to benefit each other and...
Steve J.
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Sep 12, 2007
4:54 am

Thanks for all of the comments and discussion. I would like to add a little as well. As I am relatively new to MOWIND I do not know much of what has happened...
Jack
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Sep 12, 2007
3:27 pm

I had a long conversation with Mike last night regarding this. First, Mike and his team have done a GREAT job for a LONG time making the Mille Lace and other...
Jeff & Bonnie Koeberl
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Sep 12, 2007
5:02 pm

It looks like Mike Fox has another great event in store for us. I have uploaded the notice of race to the files section. In it are explained the format of the...
Jack
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Sep 14, 2007
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