Was wondering how many spots are open for this
tourney ? and also do you need to pay when you sign up or can you
pay on the day of the tourney?
Last bugger is, do people think that on the day
of the tourney there will be some looking for a partner ?

Dolan

Steve Thomas here.

By now you may already know that Mike Brown will be not able to play
on Saturday.  I am interested in playing with a steady player....one
that really wants to win!

Let me know.

Thanks.

Steve
831-521-1664

the course you are referring to is de la veaga - you will definitely dig it the
most, it is well known from coast to coast, a must play - make sure to yell
'parking lot' from top of the world tee (#27) - your first trip will only have
you salivating for more.  try dj's mini mart at bottom of the hill on
branciforte - plenty of discs to choose from if you are in need of the newest
and finest, and yup, they have a wonderful brew selection to get you going on
the right path...sunday mornings they have random doubles (a/b pool) usually
around 9.30am pst

carmel middle is a fun one, small and at times busy (after school activities,
i.e. football and soccer) - be respectful and you'll have no problem after
school hours...track is OB and anything on the other side of the wooden posts
also OB - there is a usual group of players out there on thursday evenings @ 5
given daylight

there is also a sweet little dinker in santa cruz mountains in felton (black
mouse)...middle school kids built a tight, challenging 18 in the woods behind
their soccer field, it's a hidden gem.....

all are worth the trip

--sween

donfonni <donfonni@...> wrote:                                  I found on
a website that the Carmel middle course is only open a
  couple of days during the week, but didn't say which ones.  Does
  anyone here know?  Also, there is supposedly a 27 hole course in Santa
  Cruz.  Has anyone played it and is it worth making a day out of to go
  down there?






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I found on a website that the Carmel middle course is only open a
couple of days during the week, but didn't say which ones.  Does
anyone here know?  Also, there is supposedly a 27 hole course in Santa
Cruz.  Has anyone played it and is it worth making a day out of to go
down there?

Don,

   Thanks for the positive feedback to our recent Beer-Fest efforts. We have a
great core of volunteers that help make disc golf in our area possible.  We hope
you'll make the Oct. 21st "Royale In Big Sur Pick Your Partner Doubles Event"
Check out our website for specific details.

   Sincerely,

   Steve Thomas
   MSJDGC President

donfonni <donfonni@...> wrote:
           I moved out here from Florida over a year ago and recently started
playing disc golf again at the CSUMB courses. Alcoholic beverages
were allowed on the course I played at but it was a public park, not
part of a campus on an old military installation. If anyone knows the
rules to drinking on these courses I would be interested to know. I
assume its out of the question on the Carmel school park, but if it is
allowed on the university courses, are there any conditions such
as "cans-only." I would also like to add that your stand at Monterey
Beer-Fest was the catalyst of my renewed interest in the sport, and
that you guys seem to be doing a great job in giving us players places
to play. Thanks






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Dave Jones?...


--- In montereydiscgolf@yahoogroups.com, "stephendraven"
<sdcorbett@...> wrote:
>
> It's a fundraiser disc. It's got a name and a number in it but the
> number doesn't work. Get a hold of me and I'll get it back to you.
> Stephen 831-224-3293
>

It's a fundraiser disc. It's got a name and a number in it but the
number doesn't work. Get a hold of me and I'll get it back to you.
Stephen 831-224-3293

The CSUMB Disc Golf Club formed again for the new academic year. Two weeks ago
they
elected officers for the years as well as their club advisor (myself) and coach
(Merele
Witvoet). Both Stancil Johnson and Merle teach "HPWE 141 - Disc Golf," a one-
unit class
that actually helps to fulfill a general education requirement.

The club meets on Fridays at noon at the Black Box Cabaret, building 81.

http://csumb.edu/map

The talk this semester is in addition to a spring tournament (the CSUMB Otter
Open) that
we would like to hold a fall tournament as well. Instead of PDGA pros competing,
the hope
is to attract full-time enrolled students from colleges and universities in
California. None
of us have heard of such a tournament, except on the East Coast, so the hope is
to
eventually attract any number of universities along the entire West Coast to our
campus,
which to our knowledge is the only one in California with two 18-hole course on
its
property.

We will call it the "West College Open at CSU Monterey Bay" and hopefully we'll
find a date
in late October or early November. We've already received interest from UC Santa
Cruz, San
Jose State, and Santa Clara. We're going to contact Cal Poly SLO, San Francisco
State,
Stanford, and UC Berkeley. We'd also like to get a lot of students from the
local junior
colleges as well as four-year schools, so if you're intersted, drop us a line at
discgolf@... and bookmark this site for all current information.

http://clubs.csumb.edu/discgolf/tournaments/

Greg Pool Club
Advisor, CSUMB Disc Golf Club
http://clubs.csumb.edu/discgolf

donfonni wrote:
> If anyone knows the
> rules to drinking on these courses I would be interested to know.

On behalf of the students, I'm glad you're enjoying the courses at
California State University, Monterey Bay.

A student-centered alcohol policy is still under development at CSUMB.

http://policy.csumb.edu/site/x16011.xml#Under

The campus is patrolled regularly by the University Police Department,
and I'll check with them on any open-container laws that they may be
enforcing.

Nevertheless, since you're on land owned and operated by the state of
California, playing either the Cypress or Oaks course constitutes
playing in a public place.

State laws prohibit intoxication in public places (Cal. Penal Code 647(f)).

>    (f) Who is found in any public place under the influence of
> intoxicating liquor, any drug, controlled substance, toluene, or any
> combination of any intoxicating liquor, drug, controlled substance,
> or toluene, in a condition that he or she is unable to exercise care
> for his or her own safety or the safety of others, or by reason of
> his or her being under the influence of intoxicating liquor, any
> drug, controlled substance, toluene, or any combination of any
> intoxicating liquor, drug, or toluene, interferes with or obstructs
> or prevents the free use of any street, sidewalk, or other public
> way.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cacodes/pen/639-653.1.html

Having said all that, on our clean-ups we find lots of beer bottles on
the courses. We all know folks are drinking on our campus, regardless of
their choice of recreational sporting activities. We wish all our guests
would pack their own trash while playing Disc Golf, but my best advice
would be to drink in designated areas on campus, such as the Black Box
Cabaret or the Otter Bay Cafe.

Greg Pool
Club Advisor, CSUMB Disc Golf Club
http://clubs.csumb.edu/discgolf

I moved out here from Florida over a year ago and recently started
playing disc golf again at the CSUMB courses.  Alcoholic beverages
were allowed on the course I played at but it was a public park, not
part of a campus on an old military installation.  If anyone knows the
rules to drinking on these courses I would be interested to know.  I
assume its out of the question on the Carmel school park, but if it is
allowed on the university courses, are there any conditions such
as "cans-only."  I would also like to add that your stand at  Monterey
Beer-Fest was the catalyst of my renewed interest in the sport, and
that you guys seem to be doing a great job in giving us players places
to play.  Thanks

For those who are interested in playing this tournament on October 21,
2006, check out the flyer on our files page. If you would like to pre-
register (which is highly recomended) please contact Sean @ Trailside
Cafe (in person) at 550 Wave Street in Cannery Row or come to our
Thursday/Saturday Doubles/Bag Tag Rounds (see schedule on calendar
page).
Open, Advanced and Intermediate Divisions will be available for
the "pick your partner" format. 2 Rounds of 18 holes. We did fill up
last tournament. We will max out at 72 players (36 teams). $100 will
be added to the Open (pro) purse by Mevo Sports. If any other
companies/shops/groups would like to donate to or be a sponsor for the
tournament, please call Sean @ 831-277-5941.

Reserve your space now before we fill up!

Yeah, I heard that people want more Big Arm Ale.  It's
pub time!  :)
Congrats on the great event!

Deena

--- sean allen <seanincarmel@...> wrote:

> What a great showing for Disc Golf at the Monterey
> Fairgrounds this
> past Saturday. Disc Golf was again a hit with the
> crowd as we had
> hundreds of players, new and experienced, playing on
> our 5 hole
> course. Sales were great and we enlightened many new
> golfers on how
> and where to play. We have added 7 new members to
> our club, bringing
> the total membership this year to 89!
>
> Thanks to Steve Thomas, Mike Brown, Cloud Pemble,
> Greg Pool, Deena
> and Matt Hoffman, Sam, Tyson, Tom and the rest of
> the Jellies who
> showed their support to help promote Disc Golf in
> Monterey. Even the
> newly wedded Scott Keasey of the DGA made a cameo
> appearance with
> his new bride.
>
> Our Big Arm Ale was also a hit as we served 2 kegs
> of it in no time.
>
> We look forward to next years event and thank Jeff
> Moses and Ray
> Napolitano (Festival Hosts) for letting us set up
> our promotional
> booth.
>
> See you in Big Sur! Be on the lookout for
> updates...the flyer is
> posted on the files page.
>
>
>
>


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What a great showing for Disc Golf at the Monterey Fairgrounds this
past Saturday. Disc Golf was again a hit with the crowd as we had
hundreds of players, new and experienced, playing on our 5 hole
course. Sales were great and we enlightened many new golfers on how
and where to play. We have added 7 new members to our club, bringing
the total membership this year to 89!

Thanks to Steve Thomas, Mike Brown, Cloud Pemble, Greg Pool, Deena
and Matt Hoffman, Sam, Tyson, Tom and the rest of the Jellies who
showed their support to help promote Disc Golf in Monterey. Even the
newly wedded Scott Keasey of the DGA made a cameo appearance with
his new bride.

Our Big Arm Ale was also a hit as we served 2 kegs of it in no time.

We look forward to next years event and thank Jeff Moses and Ray
Napolitano (Festival Hosts) for letting us set up our promotional
booth.

See you in Big Sur! Be on the lookout for updates...the flyer is
posted on the files page.

DGER has a nice room for rent in pebble beach. Its a shared 2bedroom
for $750 a month (first and last) plus 1/2 utilites. Mellow self
employed 42 yo who is rarly home. Sunny room. Cats ok. Call Randy @
831-325-5271

Hey everyone, I just lost my Teebird-L on hole 8 at Oaks, it's a 165
and one of my favorites.  If you anybody comes across it I would love
to have it back.  My name and number are on the underside (Central
Valley cell # but I live in Monterey).  Thanks

i'll be getting there a bit late, closer to six/six thirty -- playing ball golf
today @ 2.30

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--- In montereydiscgolf@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Pool" <gpoole13@...>
wrote:
>
> > Whats the deal with Parking? I always park in the lot next to
the
> > Practice hole (old course) because I was told it is OK for off-
campus
> > peeps to park there....is this correct? Or do we have to pay to
park?
>
> As with any lot at the university, look for the signs. That lot
next to hole zero (practice
> hole) on the Cypress Course is a pay lot. Last I checked there is
a parking pass dispenser
> next to building 80 (bring six quarters).
>
> The CSUMB Disc Golf Club posts parking information and maps for
both the Cypress and
> Oaks course on their website.
>
> http://clubs.csumb.edu/discgolf/map/
>
> There are still places to park for free, but you'll need to follow
our lead. We review this
> information with the University Police Department each year, just
to make sure.
>
> Classes start on Monday, August 28th, so expect a lot more cars in
the lots and players on
> the courses.
>
> Greg Pool
> CSUMB Disc Golf Club advisor
>
.....and if you choose to park in an area without the permit parking
only sign, park in areas that have designated spaces, painted lines
on the pavement. We've been ticketed for not doing this and we've
been ticketed at at the "practice" lot for not having a ticket.
$1.50 vs $25.....it's worth the quarters. Lori

> Whats the deal with Parking? I always park in the lot next to the
> Practice hole (old course) because I was told it is OK for off-campus
> peeps to park there....is this correct? Or do we have to pay to park?

As with any lot at the university, look for the signs. That lot next to hole
zero (practice
hole) on the Cypress Course is a pay lot. Last I checked there is a parking pass
dispenser
next to building 80 (bring six quarters).

The CSUMB Disc Golf Club posts parking information and maps for both the Cypress
and
Oaks course on their website.

http://clubs.csumb.edu/discgolf/map/

There are still places to park for free, but you'll need to follow our lead. We
review this
information with the University Police Department each year, just to make sure.

Classes start on Monday, August 28th, so expect a lot more cars in the lots and
players on
the courses.

Greg Pool
CSUMB Disc Golf Club advisor

Hey,
Whats the deal with Parking? I always park in the lot next to the
Practice hole (old course) because I was told it is OK for off-campus
peeps to park there....is this correct? Or do we have to pay to park?

Just joined the club...sorry it took so long!
I will be playing regularly on Tuesdays after work, around 4:30-5,
with a group of disc golfers. See ya out there!

FOUR!
PK

Have not seen your disc yet...We will be on the lookout. As for
Restrooms, try the police building between hole 8 and when you cross
the street to go to 9. I usually have good luck with an open door
somewhere in the building. There are restrooms inside.

Sean
--- In montereydiscgolf@yahoogroups.com, "cudakween" <lori.lenz@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi guys (and gals?),
>  I seem to have left behind a white Archangel DX near or around 17
or
> 18 this morning out at Cypress. It has a black raven logo painted
on
> the underside of it. Sorry to have to use your site as a lost and
> found my first visit here, but that disc has been veddy, veddy
good to
> me. I'd also like to know if there are any girls out there or in
this
> club that are throwing on any kind of a regular basis that might
be
> interested in getting together for a girls round or girls day out
or
> girls gone wild with discs! Whatever! I'm just looking for some
chics
> to throw with. Also, how would I go about sponsoring a porto-potty
out
> there at Cypress, somewhere? Is this possible? Just curious Ü. Any
> info on any subject (especially the Angel) would be greatly
> appreciated. Thanks, Lori
>

Hi guys (and gals?),
  I seem to have left behind a white Archangel DX near or around 17 or
18 this morning out at Cypress. It has a black raven logo painted on
the underside of it. Sorry to have to use your site as a lost and
found my first visit here, but that disc has been veddy, veddy good to
me. I'd also like to know if there are any girls out there or in this
club that are throwing on any kind of a regular basis that might be
interested in getting together for a girls round or girls day out or
girls gone wild with discs! Whatever! I'm just looking for some chics
to throw with. Also, how would I go about sponsoring a porto-potty out
there at Cypress, somewhere? Is this possible? Just curious Ü. Any
info on any subject (especially the Angel) would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks, Lori

Sean and Steve,  Here is what I remember for sure and what made me
write in the first place. Lori and I standing at the tee signs for
12, 13 and 14 with discs in hand, waiting for 4 or 5 people to
finish the hole. At 14 when it was apparant we weren't being
acknowledged we walked back over to 10 thinking that would give us
enough cusion to not be crowding the group that started in front of
us. I did not yell or wave as I thought it was obvious we were
waiting on you.
     Clearly I do not understand what protocol is for letting someone
in front know you would like to pass. Mostly I felt snubbed and
ignored. Sean calling me was the first indication anybody in the
group gave that there was anybody else around.
The course was wide open and you could have started anywhere. At
that point given my limited experience with this game I was not
about to push any point.

    I have just assumed it was bad form to tee off on a hole until
the group in front is done with their putts and moving toward the
next tee. If this is not the case then I clearly didn't crowd your
group close enough for you to notice. What is considered good form?
     If your right behind someone that is still an average of 300
feet. If you have to run up to the group, ask and then run back and
tee off.......well it hardly seems worth the effort.
     The only way I can see it working smoothly is if the group in
front waves the waiting players through. I can be wrong though, I'm
good at it.
      All this said this is not descriptive of my experiences with
disc golfing. As a matter of fact, short of disc eating trees, this
is the first time anything remotely negative has happened.
     My experiences at City Hall and at Big Sur a year ago stand out
as much stronger images of MSJ and it's members than this one
instance. I intend to put this behind me now.
Thanks for the feedback,  Stephen



--- In montereydiscgolf@yahoogroups.com, steve thomas
<mevo22001@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
>   I was part of the group from last Friday.....
>
>   This info may help with your questions about Etiquette:
>
>   Mike and I began on hole 12. From the tee box I could see two
players completing hole 9 and tee off from hole 10 (you and possibly
Lori). For us to begin from this point is OK; there was no players
directly behind us. We were later joined by two other players.
>
>   I'm really good at keeping tabs on quicker players or smaller
groups that may be in a good position to play through. I looked over
to you at two different occasions, and I did not get the impression
you and your partner were ever in a position to jump ahead.
>
>   A good Etiquette rule of thumb to consider may be this:
>
>   If faster players or smaller groups clearly express hints or
signs they wish or are ready to play through than because of player
etiquette they should.
>
>   In the past, what I like to do and have seen is this, asking the
group in front if they would not mind....etc. I'd only do this if I
was ready to play the same hole as they are or walked up to their
tee box prior to them teeing off.
>
>   If you have any other questions, please let us know.
>
>   Sorry for holding you up.
>
>   Sincerely,
>
>   Steve Thomas
>
> stephendraven <sdcorbett@...> wrote:
>           I and my girlfriend are definitely novices at this game.
We've been
> playing irregularly for about a year, maybe a little more. Mostly
at
> the Cypress course at Fort Ord. We have quite a bit of fun and for
> the most part enjoy the interactions with other players we've met
on
> the course. Now I don't know all the rules of etiquette
surrounding
> the game and would not enjoy trying to make any kind of point
while
> on the course.
> So maybe I can get some feedback here on what happened this
> afternoon. We were a little over half way through the course,
> walking up to 11, I think. It's the long straight, into the wind,
> between two eucalyptus trees hole right next to 1st Street. A
group
> of five shows up and tees off on 12 right in front of us. At first
I
> thought they were just warming up before walking over to the first
> hole on the other side of 3rd Street. I was wrong, they went ahead
> like we didn't exist, some of them throwing two discs from the
tee.
> I kept looking to see if they might wave us to play through, but
> that didn't happen. We even circled around replaying some holes
but
> caught right back up with them.
> At one point one member of the group called to me by name
> and identified himself. It's too bad because it's someone I like
and
> thought was a real ambassador for the sport. So I'd like to know,
> is there course "etiquette" or protocol? I don't mean the kind
> written up on the PDGA web site. I mean in the real world when
it's
> just you and some amateur on the course. If it's not practiced or
> taught by the "Pros" how does it get out there.
> Whew! At least I got it off my chest.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Stephen,

   I was part of the group from last Friday.....

   This info may help with your questions about Etiquette:

   Mike and I began on hole 12. From the tee box I could see two players
completing hole 9 and tee off from hole 10 (you and possibly Lori). For us to
begin from this point is OK; there was no players directly behind us. We were
later joined by two other players.

   I'm really good at keeping tabs on quicker players or smaller groups that may
be in a good position to play through. I looked over to you at two different
occasions, and I did not get the impression you and your partner were ever in a
position to jump ahead.

   A good Etiquette rule of thumb to consider may be this:

   If faster players or smaller groups clearly express hints or signs they wish
or are ready to play through than because of player etiquette they should.

   In the past, what I like to do and have seen is this, asking the group in
front if they would not mind....etc. I'd only do this if I was ready to play the
same hole as they are or walked up to their tee box prior to them teeing off.

   If you have any other questions, please let us know.

   Sorry for holding you up.

   Sincerely,

   Steve Thomas

stephendraven <sdcorbett@...> wrote:
           I and my girlfriend are definitely novices at this game. We've been
playing irregularly for about a year, maybe a little more. Mostly at
the Cypress course at Fort Ord. We have quite a bit of fun and for
the most part enjoy the interactions with other players we've met on
the course. Now I don't know all the rules of etiquette surrounding
the game and would not enjoy trying to make any kind of point while
on the course.
So maybe I can get some feedback here on what happened this
afternoon. We were a little over half way through the course,
walking up to 11, I think. It's the long straight, into the wind,
between two eucalyptus trees hole right next to 1st Street. A group
of five shows up and tees off on 12 right in front of us. At first I
thought they were just warming up before walking over to the first
hole on the other side of 3rd Street. I was wrong, they went ahead
like we didn't exist, some of them throwing two discs from the tee.
I kept looking to see if they might wave us to play through, but
that didn't happen. We even circled around replaying some holes but
caught right back up with them.
At one point one member of the group called to me by name
and identified himself. It's too bad because it's someone I like and
thought was a real ambassador for the sport. So I'd like to know,
is there course "etiquette" or protocol? I don't mean the kind
written up on the PDGA web site. I mean in the real world when it's
just you and some amateur on the course. If it's not practiced or
taught by the "Pros" how does it get out there.
Whew! At least I got it off my chest.






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Hi Steve,

First of all, it is good to know that you are still with us on this
message board and website. Secondly, it is great to see you are
still playing. I had called a handful of times and had not heard
back from you, other than when I talked to Lori a few months ago.

Now, for the record...(on this day you experienced) I arrived at the
Cypress course a bit after 6 pm to join a foursome of club members
on #15 (shooting straight down the hill toward the police building).
At that point, I noticed a twosome arriving at the tee of #10. I
noticed because there were no other players on this side of the
course. The next time I saw this twosome was when we were finishing
#16. I noticed it was you and Lori. You two were walking down the
fairway of #15 when I called to you. Unfortunately, your response
was less than cordial and you kept walking. I was taken back by your
response but headed toward the #17 tee as you finished #15. We
finished #17 and went to the tee of #18. You two finished 16 & 17
and decided to stop as we were leaving the tee of #18.

As for what happened before I arrived, I cannot say, but I can
guarantee the etiquette of those who I played with would be of the
same professional caliber you would expect. If you did appear to be
coming close to our/their group we/they would have let you through.
The closest you came to us was when you were leaving from the basket
of #17 and we had finished teeing off #18.

I wish you would have said something at the time rather than us
corresponding in this manner.

I hope you do keep playing and keep the faith that we are all in it
together in the spirit of fun and friendship.

Sean Allen - MSJDGC

Don't worry, I'll still hit Fort Ord someday. You just hit a nerve with
me. The second response was a bit more eloquent. Some bigger groups are
beginners, and I'm sure if you ask to play through most would cooperate.
It's those that know better and give you a rude "no" when you ask to
play through that are a real dissappointment. I hope you don't let them
get you down - at least y'all don't have to deal with them in 100
degree heat with 50% humidity :)
  Well I'm out the door for my usual Sunday morning round, only 73
degrees now with 100% humidity (rain), oh well.
"FORE!!!!!"
Steve

Your right, this is not good course 'etiquette' and should be
frowned upon. Though of course it happens and seems sometimes will
happen with groups that should know better. It varies at each course,
but in alot of cases, it will happen with large groups of locals that
should know better(not always, could happen with a group of people
just starting out the game)

Anyway I could say more, but I won't.
Remember its only a game and hopefully these happenings won't spoil
your fun.

dolan


--- In montereydiscgolf@yahoogroups.com, "stephendraven"
<sdcorbett@...> wrote:
>
>  I and my girlfriend are definitely novices at this game. We've been
> playing irregularly for about a year, maybe a little more. Mostly at
> the Cypress course at Fort Ord. We have quite a bit of fun and for
> the most part enjoy the interactions with other players we've met on
> the course. Now I don't know all the rules of etiquette surrounding
> the game and would not enjoy trying to make any kind of point while
> on the course.
>  So maybe I can get some feedback here on what happened this
> afternoon. We were a little over half way through the course,
> walking up to 11, I think. It's the long straight, into the wind,
> between two eucalyptus trees hole  right next to 1st Street. A group
> of five shows up and tees off on 12 right in front of us. At first I
> thought they were just warming up before walking over to the first
> hole on the other side of 3rd Street. I was wrong, they went ahead
> like we didn't exist, some of them throwing two discs from the tee.
> I kept looking to see if they might wave us to play through, but
> that didn't happen.  We even circled around replaying some holes but
> caught right back up with them.
>  At one point one member of the group called to me by name
> and identified himself. It's too bad because it's someone I like and
> thought was a real ambassador for the sport.  So I'd like to know,
> is there course "etiquette" or protocol?  I don't mean the kind
> written up on the PDGA web site. I mean in the real world when it's
> just you and some amateur on the course. If it's not practiced or
> taught by the "Pros" how does it get out there.
>  Whew!  At least I got it off my chest.
>

Please don't characterize the Cypress Course by my description of
one instance. By far most of my experiences there have been
positive. It is not uncommon to have the course to yourself.
     The problem with walking through and butting in front of the
group ahead is it promotes rude behavior rather than discourage it.
Even worse it would be calculated rather than negligent. I don't
think anybody percieved themselves as being rude in the instance
described. If anything they just didn't think about it.......there
lies the root of most "rude" behavior.
    Back to the main point, my experiences here on the Monterey
Peninsula at Cypress, Carmel Middle School and Big Sur have been
predominately positive. I am sorry to here that is not your
experience in Texas.
      And by all means..... play on through
--- In montereydiscgolf@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <ssweat@...> wrote:
>
> YES!!! There is definitely a course ettiquette and those folks
were
> not using it. Yet the behavior you describe is all too common - it
> always seems to be the "pros", too, and there are usually 6 or 7
> of 'em. It's bad enough when a larger group won't let you play
> through but when they cut in front of another group that is just
very
> rude. We have a course here in Austin (Tx) and it's not uncommon
to
> start on the 9th hole if its backed up a bit on 1. But you would
> never jump in ahead of a group. These jerks have really turned me
off
> to the sport, to be honest. And yes it is always a group of folks
who
> are very regular players, a little better than the average player,
> and think they are God's gift to disc golf. I think their mindset
> is "well we're so much better that we play as fast as a twosome,
and
> these lame beginners behind us will just slow us down, blah, blah,
> blah. Yep, unfortunately there are assholes all over. I've gotten
to
> the point that I only play early Sunday morning rounds anymore,
when
> most of the uber-assholes are still hanging over (wait till you
get
> behind a group of 'em with a cooler of beer they're lugging around
> slowly and they're all drunk and loud and obnoxious). In fact the
> last time I played a round NOT on Sunday was two months ago at
Carmel
> Middle School while I was in Pacific Grove for my wedding and that
> was a Saturday morning (morning of the wedding per the bride!!). I
> guess due to the extreme "beginnerness" of the course I've rarely
> encountered anyone there besides tennis players.
> I never did make it out to fort Ord - I'm a little wary now. I do
> come out to Cali pretty regularly to visit the in-laws.
> My only advice is a trick we use, not so much a trick I guess but
> just walk through the hole the jerks are playing like you're
leaving
> early and you're just gonna walk out the rest of the course, walk
> quickly and don't look at them. Get to the next tee box and there
you
> go. Doesn't work that well if the course is too packed but you
might
> give it a try. Sorry to say the assholes are on the rise - my
buddy
> has his own private course in Kentucky, maybe I'll just have to
start
> making that 13 hour drive if I want a nice pleasant round.
> Steve
> "Would y'all like to play through...?"
>

YES!!! There is definitely a course ettiquette and those folks were
not using it. Yet the behavior you describe is all too common - it
always seems to be the "pros", too, and there are usually 6 or 7
of 'em. It's bad enough when a larger group won't let you play
through but when they cut in front of another group that is just very
rude. We have a course here in Austin (Tx) and it's not uncommon to
start on the 9th hole if its backed up a bit on 1. But you would
never jump in ahead of a group. These jerks have really turned me off
to the sport, to be honest. And yes it is always a group of folks who
are very regular players, a little better than the average player,
and think they are God's gift to disc golf. I think their mindset
is "well we're so much better that we play as fast as a twosome, and
these lame beginners behind us will just slow us down, blah, blah,
blah. Yep, unfortunately there are assholes all over. I've gotten to
the point that I only play early Sunday morning rounds anymore, when
most of the uber-assholes are still hanging over (wait till you get
behind a group of 'em with a cooler of beer they're lugging around
slowly and they're all drunk and loud and obnoxious). In fact the
last time I played a round NOT on Sunday was two months ago at Carmel
Middle School while I was in Pacific Grove for my wedding and that
was a Saturday morning (morning of the wedding per the bride!!). I
guess due to the extreme "beginnerness" of the course I've rarely
encountered anyone there besides tennis players.
I never did make it out to fort Ord - I'm a little wary now. I do
come out to Cali pretty regularly to visit the in-laws.
My only advice is a trick we use, not so much a trick I guess but
just walk through the hole the jerks are playing like you're leaving
early and you're just gonna walk out the rest of the course, walk
quickly and don't look at them. Get to the next tee box and there you
go. Doesn't work that well if the course is too packed but you might
give it a try. Sorry to say the assholes are on the rise - my buddy
has his own private course in Kentucky, maybe I'll just have to start
making that 13 hour drive if I want a nice pleasant round.
Steve
"Would y'all like to play through...?"

I and my girlfriend are definitely novices at this game. We've been
playing irregularly for about a year, maybe a little more. Mostly at
the Cypress course at Fort Ord. We have quite a bit of fun and for
the most part enjoy the interactions with other players we've met on
the course. Now I don't know all the rules of etiquette surrounding
the game and would not enjoy trying to make any kind of point while
on the course.
	 So maybe I can get some feedback here on what happened this
afternoon. We were a little over half way through the course,
walking up to 11, I think. It's the long straight, into the wind,
between two eucalyptus trees hole  right next to 1st Street. A group
of five shows up and tees off on 12 right in front of us. At first I
thought they were just warming up before walking over to the first
hole on the other side of 3rd Street. I was wrong, they went ahead
like we didn't exist, some of them throwing two discs from the tee.
I kept looking to see if they might wave us to play through, but
that didn't happen.  We even circled around replaying some holes but
caught right back up with them.
	 At one point one member of the group called to me by name
and identified himself. It's too bad because it's someone I like and
thought was a real ambassador for the sport.  So I'd like to know,
is there course "etiquette" or protocol?  I don't mean the kind
written up on the PDGA web site. I mean in the real world when it's
just you and some amateur on the course. If it's not practiced or
taught by the "Pros" how does it get out there.
	 Whew!  At least I got it off my chest.