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RE: [mnsports] Re: zebras blow it again

Be a leader instead of making a non-decision that any low-level by-the-book functionary could have made.  He could have acted like a commissioner and said that – for the good of the game – it would be wrong to reward foul play by the Spurs and that the two Suns would instead be suspended for one game during the 2007-2008 regular season.  (And then suspended Robert Horry for one month, without pay.)  Too much like a commissioner?  OK, he could have ruled that the Duncan move onto the court earlier in the game was also an altercation and suspended him too.  Too Solomonic?  OK, then here’s the decision he certainly could have made.  He could have ruled that there was no altercation with Horry and Nash – absolutely within his power since there is no clearcut definition of what constitutes an altercation in the NBA rulebook.   How many playoff games have hard fouls and players jawing at each other?  Except that Horry’s foul was absolutely premeditated – for which Stern REWARDED his team – this was a helluva lot closer to that than it was to Pistons-Pacers.  Yeah, it was a flagrant foul.  But were any punches thrown?  Did anyone get assessed a foul for fighting?  Did anyone interact even verbally with any fans?  So how is that an altercation any more than Duncan’s moment IF NOBODY ACTUALLY FOUGHT?  Sure there would be some spin doctoring in that ruling.  But is it MORE honest to pretend that justice was served, or that the fans were served, or that future on-court violence was made LESS likely, by suspending the Suns and ruining the playoffs?  How the hell was that good for the game?    

 


From: mnsports@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mnsports@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of stewthornley
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:30 PM
To: mnsports@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mnsports] Re: zebras blow it again

 

--- In mnsports@yahoogroups.com, "Holst, Alan R" <holstar@...> wrote:
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> Like much of the officiating this season, and David Stern's petty
bureaucrat non-leadership with the Suns' suspension, this was pathetic.

I'm not going to argue about your issues with officiating, but what, in
your opinion, should Stern have done in the Suns-Spurs series regarding
that situation?

Stew



Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:28 am

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Athletes are routinely expected to shoulder all the blame when their team loses. You know what I mean - "even if that call was wrong, blah blah blah" they are...
Holst, Alan R
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Jun 13, 2007
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... bureaucrat non-leadership with the Suns' suspension, this was pathetic. I'm not going to argue about your issues with officiating, but what, in your...
stewthornley
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Jun 13, 2007
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Be a leader instead of making a non-decision that any low-level by-the-book functionary could have made. He could have acted like a commissioner and said that...
Holst, Alan R
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Jun 14, 2007
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I'm not familiar with all that went on in that game other than Horry throwing his hip into Nash and a couple players, including Amare Stoudamire, coming off...
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Jun 14, 2007
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Bullshit. They did not "go after " Horry. They took a couple of steps towards their fallen teammate - who had just been attacked by Horry -- but did not take...
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... steps ... - ... player, ... Double bullshit to you. Did you actually ... Yes....
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Then you're wrong. Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RDYD0EUBzY and then check any dictionary's definition of "bolting" and "walking". The only...
Holst, Alan R
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... Then you're double secret wrong. Watch this ... violent ... described? ... With Schultz, it was a systematic thing to have him to get banished with an...
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I guess you probably think Rudy Tomjanovich should have suspended along with Kermit Washington, too, for rushing toward the action and getting himself...
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... along ... Well, hey, he really knocked the shit out of Washington's fist with his face. After all, "players have some responsibility to make ... At the...
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Duncan knows what the rules are too. So why wasn't he suspended? (I sent you the internet link. I hope you looked at it.) And why are you defending Stern...
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... (I ... Yeah, I did. I saw two Spurs take three steps onto the court and then step back. Was Duncan one of them? And why are you ... of why ... Spurs - ...
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OK, you think this will not send a message that goonery is rewarded. I disagree, obviously, but that is certainly a matter of interpretation, so I agree that...
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Jun 18, 2007
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... rewarded. I disagree, obviously, but that is certainly a matter of interpretation, so I agree that you have answered that. I am still not sure what your...
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