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The list below is my list. The (7 man only) rosters are at the Minnesota-Maryland site I included.
From: mnbuckets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mnbuckets@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marc hugunin
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:27 AM
To: mnbuckets@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mnbuckets] All Time NCAA Basketball
Seems pretty obvious that the seeds are based purely on show biz value. Maryland is a bigger name and a bigger draw in their larger (eastern) markets than Minnesota is. This is show biz, not history. (I would guess that they have never heard of Jim McIntyre.)
Marc
On 11/16/05 7:55 AM, "Holst, Alan R" <holstar@...> wrote:
ESPN.com is doing an all time NCAA basketball tournament, using alumni teams that takes into account their pro careers. UCLA is seeded #1 and North Carolina is seeded #2, both of which make sense.
As impressive as Shaq, Maravich and Pettit are, LSU is not the third best team of all time. And Kentucky is ranked 11th (!) as Cliff Hagan, Frank Ramsey, Alex Groza, Ralph Beard and Antoine Walker are left off the team! Minnesota is ranked #26, and in the first round "plays" Maryland, ranked #7.
Look at the respective alumni who had seasons in the NBA in which they averaged double figures, and tell me why Maryland is ranked 20 spots ahead of Minnesota.
MINNESOTA (26)
guards
Archie Clark
Dick Garmaker
Bobby Jackson
Voshon Lenard
Whitey Skoog
Trent Tucker
Ray Williams
forwards
Ron Behagen
Jim Brewer
Willie Burton
Don Carlson
Lou Hudson
Kevin McHale
Mark Olberding
Jim Petersen
centers
Randy Breuer
Kleggie Hermsen
Mychal Thompson
MARYLAND (7)
guards
Brad Davis
Steve Francis
Albert King
John Lucas
Gene Shue
Walt Williams
forwards
Tony Massenburg
Joe Smith
Buck Williams
center
Len Elmore (ABA only)
Yeah, Maryland adds Len Bias (great to die before you can prove less than legendary) but "Scoop" Jackson leaves (among others) Bobby Jackson, Voshon Lenard, Ray Williams and Jim Brewer off the Gopher team in favor of Dave Winfield! If the pro careers count, then Randy Breuer was better than Terrapin starter Tom McMillen. If the college careers are what's important, then consensus 1st team All Americans Dick Garmaker (also a 4 time NBA all star in the Bill Russell era) and Jim McIntyre were better than McMillen.
I really hate this kind of shit.
the tournament
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hoops/tournament/index <http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hoops/tournament/index>
Minnesota v Maryland
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hoops/marylandvsminnesota <http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hoops/marylandvsminnesota>
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