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Brewer has not done anything to justify being an NBA starter.  He did not score at all, he did not pass (lousy assist ratio), he did not rebound, and he did not make the other team turn the ball over.  (He didn’t have many steals for a guy whose only justification for playing is to provide defense on the wings, and he had fewer blocks than Kyle Korver and Marko Jaric.)  And it’s not like he’s some teenager that gets a pass on his rookie season.  He is older than Rudy Gay, and is a year older than fellow Florida alum and current Timberwolf teammate Mike Miller was when he won the Rookie of the Year award.  Because of his perceived athleticism he is presumed to be an outstanding defensive player, but are there any stats that show his defense actually shuts down his opposing number to the degree he would have to in order to justify his complete lack of production in every other aspect of the game?  I have no confidence that he will ever be a productive NBA player.    

 


From: mnbuckets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mnbuckets@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marc hugunin
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:11 PM
To: mnbuckets@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mnbuckets] Draft Night

 

They offered Gomes, Smith and Richard.

They may go after Telfair but like I said, there’s a bunch of free agent 1s out there. The Wolves actually have some cap room to go after somebody—not an A type guy but a back-up type point. That begs the question of whether Foye is really a 1, but right now he’s the only guy on the roster who is even a combo much less a 1.

Miller was the 6th man of the year a couple years ago. If they bring him off the bench, then maybe McCants starts, but they seemed to prefer McCants off the bench. People are not real high on McCants. Attitude. No D. So even if they bring McCants off the bench, they could start Gomes at the 3 and Brewer at the 2. Or for that matter they could bring Love off the bench, I mean he’s a rookie. Gomes was the 4 last year.

Suddenly they’ve got lots of options up front but a thin back-court. Let’s not pretend this is a contender yet. It is especially not a good defensive roster other than Brewer.

Marc


On 7/2/08 5:46 AM, "Holst, Alan R" <holstar@state.gov> wrote:


 

What happened to McCants?  Despite his issues, he seems more like an NBA starter than Brewer.  
 
The Wolves got Love, Miller and (in the long run) a few million dollars for Mayo.  Sounds like a (gasp) good deal to me.  So will this trade with an ex-Celtic GM exiled to Memphis provide karmic balance for the Garnett trade to the Celtics?      
 
I see the Wolves have SIX free agents – Telfair, Snyder and Doleac unrestricted, Gomes, Smith and Richard restricted. Any word on which ones they plan to sign?   

 


From: mnbuckets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mnbuckets@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marc hugunin
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:42 PM
To: mnbuckets@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mnbuckets] Draft Night


On draft day I almost sent a post saying, Pick Love! Pick Love!

Then I thought, well, Mayo is a good pick.

And, then, I couldn’t help but think about Ray Allen and Brandon Roy. Is O.J. Mayo the next coming of Allen and Roy? Do Allen and Roy sound like a comedy duo or what?

Well, I like Love’s game. And the Wolves now suddenly have a hole at the point. But there’s a whole bunch of guys (free agents) out there who can play the point. I’m not sure that Tyronn Lue might not be better than Sebastien Telfair (not Mayo, but Telfair). So we’ll see. In the short term I’d be pretty sure that Mike Miller is the real difference maker for the Wolves.

Starting for the Wolves: Jefferson, Love, Brewer, Miller and Foye? Not much of a defensive unit is all I can say, other than Brewer. But if Miller is half the shooter they’re making him out to be, this lineup should score. Unless Brewer and Foye insist on taking a bunch of shots.

Marc


On 7/1/08 1:12 PM, "grekela" <grekela@southsidejournal.org> wrote:



 

Another draft, another trade.  This one supposedly was engineered by
Taylor himself.  Perhaps he was nervous about the box office potential
of a troubled man named O.J. from Southern California.  And hats off
to Kevin McHale for playing tribute to his old high school coach (and
mine), Pecky Smilanich, with the next Wolves pick.

 
    



    

 



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Another draft, another trade. This one supposedly was engineered by Taylor himself. Perhaps he was nervous about the box office potential of a troubled man...
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On draft day I almost sent a post saying, Pick Love! Pick Love! Then I thought, well, Mayo is a good pick. And, then, I couldn¹t help but think about Ray...
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What happened to McCants? Despite his issues, he seems more like an NBA starter than Brewer. The Wolves got Love, Miller and (in the long run) a few million...
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They offered Gomes, Smith and Richard. They may go after Telfair but like I said, there¹s a bunch of free agent 1s out there. The Wolves actually have some...
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Brewer has not done anything to justify being an NBA starter. He did not score at all, he did not pass (lousy assist ratio), he did not rebound, and he did...
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Don't know about Richard, but Gomes and Smith would have been the two I would have offered contracts too. Agree on the availability of decent backup point...
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Assuming the guys they traded, like Mayo, don't come back, who are the five (if I'm counting them all) top draft picks of the Wolves who never played for them?...
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OK, this is off the top of my head, so I'm not cheating by checking the internet. Assuming that we consider Ndudi Ebi and Will Avery's enormous contribtutions...
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Since you are the king of the trick questions, Alan, I'm glad you got them all. ... the internet. Assuming that we consider Ndudi Ebi and Will Avery's ...
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Corey Brewer will be substantially more productive, to be sure. Marc...
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