According to the JS report, the addition of Cameron in center field
will result in major changes for a Brewers club which committed 109
errors last season, the sixth-highest total in the majors.

A three-time Gold Glove winner, Cameron would provide Milwaukee with a
significant defensive upgrade over Bill Hall, who moved from shortstop
to center field last season but appeared clumsy at times and committed
nine errors.

According to the Journal-Sentinel, Hall will move to third base while
reigning NL Rookie of the Year Ryan Braun will shift to left field

What does everyone think?

i was shocked when i saw this, but i am excited. (no its not about
jenkins, no shock there.)

The Brewers are very disappointed with top pitching
prospect Jeremy Jeffress after he failed another drug
test and may look to trade him. They declined Geoff
Jenkins option for next year opening a spot in the
outfield. The Pirates are looking to trade Bay after a
poor offensive year and the Brewers would be smart to
get him while his asking price is still low. I suspect
that if they traded Jeffress and a minor leaguer or
two could land him, it might not even take that
though. At Lo-A this season, Jeffress, 19, was 9-5
with a 3.13 ERA in 86.1 IP. He has got a great slider
that compliments his fastball, and I think Huntington
would love to stock the Pirates with young, capable
pitching. Bay if familiar with the NL Central and an
adjustment would not be hard at all. If Bay is
officially put on the market, expect the Brewers to be
all over him.

http://www.mlb-rumors.blogspot.com/

--- In milwaukeebrewersbaseball@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan D"
<jonathan-dummer@...> wrote:
> to bad that's not true we need a 3 run homer right now to tie the
> game luckily barroid is 0-2

You need no such thing. You need fans that get off their thumbs once
in a while. The Cubs won the Central Division crown because there were
more Cub fans in Cincinnatti than Reds fans on that fateful day. After
the Cubs game, I switched to the Brewers game and was shocked. You
were behind, but had two baserunners and your fans weren't doing their
jobs. That would NEVER fly in Cub Nation, which is why the Cubs won
more games than any other team in baseball.

> to bad that's not true we need a 3 run homer right now to tie the
> game

Nah. I watched the Cubs game on the 25th, then turned on the Brewer
game when that was over and couldn't believe my eyes. You had TWO
BASERUNNERS and all your "fans" were sitting on their hands. What's
wrong with the Brewers? Not Yost. Anyone who could take a team with
such apathetic fans over .500 should be Manager of the Millenium.

GO CUBS!!

Got Postseason?

WE DO!!!

--- In milwaukeebrewersbaseball@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan D"
<jonathan-dummer@...> wrote:
>
> --- In milwaukeebrewersbaseball@yahoogroups.com, bar15arb
> <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > July 20
> > Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (scroll down): "A local sports talk
radio
> > station reported before the game that the Brewers had acquired
> > power-hitting outfielder Adam Dunn from the Cincinnati Reds for
> > reliever Matt Wise and possibly two other players, but general
> manager
> > Doug Melvin quashed that idea. Melvin said the report was based
on an
> > Internet rumor and had no validity."
> >
>
> to bad that's not true we need a 3 run homer right now to tie the
game
> luckily barroid is 0-2
>

--- In milwaukeebrewersbaseball@yahoogroups.com, bar15arb
<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> July 20
> Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (scroll down): "A local sports talk radio
> station reported before the game that the Brewers had acquired
> power-hitting outfielder Adam Dunn from the Cincinnati Reds for
> reliever Matt Wise and possibly two other players, but general
manager
> Doug Melvin quashed that idea. Melvin said the report was based on an
> Internet rumor and had no validity."
>

to bad that's not true we need a 3 run homer right now to tie the game
luckily barroid is 0-2

July 20
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (scroll down): "A local sports talk radio
station reported before the game that the Brewers had acquired
power-hitting outfielder Adam Dunn from the Cincinnati Reds for
reliever Matt Wise and possibly two other players, but general manager
Doug Melvin quashed that idea. Melvin said the report was based on an
Internet rumor and had no validity."

On 5/8/07, Randy <Randy@...> wrote:
> --- In milwaukeebrewersbaseball@yahoogroups.com, crichar3
> <crichar3@...> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > I think it is possible if they win the Central.  I still don't see
> > them winning much more than 85 games (and that could be enough to take
> > the division).  I wouldn't say they are a strong candidate for the
> > playoff if they can't win the Central.
> >
>
>
> Chris,
>
> I have to disagree with you on your prediction.  Afterall, thre are
> 130 games left in the regular season, your prediction of 85 and 77
> just doesn't make sense with what they have already accomplished.  The
> club would actually have to have loosing record (.484 to be exact) for
> the remainder of the season.  I don't think that this team will do
> that.  Sure they are really hot at the moment and I honestly do think
> they will cool off a bit, but I think they will continue to play good
> ball and be at or within a game or two of playing .500 for the rest of
> the year and still finishing with 90 or more wins and easily walking
> away with the central title.


Of course, I hope you are right. But I will note that we are talking
about a five game differential here--my feeling about 85 wins v. your
feeling of 90, so it is not like we disagree all that much.

I skew lower because I do not believe they will be healthy all season;
because I would be surprised if things continue to break in their
favor going forward the way they have to this point; and because, in
the ebb and flow of a season players are certain to slump and  be
ineffective.  Few position players have slumped badly (Hall at times,
Rickie a bit and Counsel), but by and large everyone has  been
available and performing at or near expectations.





  The key is all in the starting
> rotation.  As long as those pitchers stay healthy I think we will have
> a genuine shot at seeing some post season games being played at the
> Keg this year.



I sincerely doubt they all will stay healthy, and that is going to
sting when it happens.  Moreover, no one on the staff--save for Dave
Bush--has struggled much if at all.   I also expect simple
ineffectiveness will be a factor down the line, significantly enough
that they might only manage .500 from here on out (which would give
them 87 wins for the year, which might be good enough to win the
division).

Sure, they look good now.  But injury and reversion to the mean are
factors that have yet to come into play.  The schedule is also going
to get more challenging soon.

Chris


http://crichar3.blogspot.com/

--- In milwaukeebrewersbaseball@yahoogroups.com, crichar3
<crichar3@...> wrote:


>
> I think it is possible if they win the Central.  I still don't see
> them winning much more than 85 games (and that could be enough to take
> the division).  I wouldn't say they are a strong candidate for the
> playoff if they can't win the Central.
>


Chris,

I have to disagree with you on your prediction.  Afterall, thre are
130 games left in the regular season, your prediction of 85 and 77
just doesn't make sense with what they have already accomplished.  The
club would actually have to have loosing record (.484 to be exact) for
the remainder of the season.  I don't think that this team will do
that.  Sure they are really hot at the moment and I honestly do think
they will cool off a bit, but I think they will continue to play good
ball and be at or within a game or two of playing .500 for the rest of
the year and still finishing with 90 or more wins and easily walking
away with the central title.   The key is all in the starting
rotation.  As long as those pitchers stay healthy I think we will have
a genuine shot at seeing some post season games being played at the
Keg this year.

On 4/24/07, fieldactionusa <fieldactionusa@...> wrote:
> I've been watching this team since 1979. It's been pretty intolerable
> since 1992. But for the first time in a long, long time, I have a
> glimmer of hope.



I've been following them since they came to MKE in 1970.  The run from
1978-83 was nice (as was '87-'92), but this might be better because of
the long dry spell they are coming off.  Yes, there is a glimmer of
hope, but at 11 over .500 it might be time to start believing.






>
> Can this team make the playoffs this season?



I think it is possible if they win the Central.  I still don't see
them winning much more than 85 games (and that could be enough to take
the division).  I wouldn't say they are a strong candidate for the
playoff if they can't win the Central.




--
http://crichar3.blogspot.com/

I've been watching this team since 1979. It's been pretty intolerable
since 1992. But for the first time in a long, long time, I have a
glimmer of hope.

The starting lineup is hitting. The depth in the outfield with Yost
spreading around playing time between Jenkins, Mench, Gross and Hart is
amazing. Last night's win against the Cubs was one of the most
satisfying wins I've seen in quite awhile.

Can this team make the playoffs this season?

F.A.



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On 4/29/07, licker247 <licker247@...> wrote:
>   ok folks. is everyone still in shock? first place and almost best
> record in league and no posts.  its may first and we are kicking. we
> havent even called up braun. great pitching and timely hitting with no
> egos. i hope to get to a game in early august or late june. lets keep
> them kicking butt. later, licker



I don't know if I'd say I'm in shock, but I didn't expect the fast
start we've seen.  The most encouraging part to me is that they've
done what they've done with Weeks, Hall and Sheets not really being
overwhelming factors.  All the parts seem to be complementary right
now, and that bodes well for when the guys who are producing now
inevitably slump later in the year; then other who are cool right now
are likely to be ready to get the big hit or come up with the key
pitching performance.

Moreover, the timing for the current good streak couldn't be better:
they are in the midst of a 22 game stretch v. NL Central teams and are
having great success.  May looks like a tougher month, but this
Brewers team looks like it might be up to the challenge.  It should be
interesting to see if they are.

Chris

--
http://crichar3.blogspot.com/

ok folks. is everyone still in shock? first place and almost best
record in league and no posts.  its may first and we are kicking. we
havent even called up braun. great pitching and timely hitting with no
egos. i hope to get to a game in early august or late june. lets keep
them kicking butt. later, licker

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Veteran right-hander signs largest deal in club history

MILWAUKEE -- Jeff Suppan passed a physical Friday morning, formally
clearing his path into the Brewers' starting rotation.

Suppan and the team came to terms Christmas Eve on a free agent
contract that guarantees $42 million over the next four years, plus an
option for a fifth. It's the largest contract in franchise history,
and will become official next week when the team files paperwork with
the Players Association.

"Will there be any extra pressure? There could be," Suppan said on a
conference call with local beat writers on Friday. "But there could
not be. I don't really know. I've never really made this kind of
money, and it's a new organization so there are always going to be
different things distracting you.

"As a pitcher or a player, you have to learn how to deal with
distractions. That's what I try to do."

Suppan traveled from his Los Angeles home to Milwaukee on Thursday
night, and woke early for Friday's physical exam with head team
physician Dr. William Raasch. Afterward, Suppan drove around the city
scouting potential new homes before stopping at Miller Park.

The mandatory physical was the only hurdle between the right-hander
and by far the biggest contract of his career. He insisted he was not
nervous.

"I didn't think much about it, to be honest with you," he said. "I
feel strong. I feel healthy. I think I've proven that my health,
throughout my career, has been there, and I plan on continuing that."

Suppan turns 32 on Tuesday. He has made at least 31 starts in eight
consecutive seasons, and had pitched at least 200 innings in five
straight seasons before his most recent three-year tenure in St. Louis
under manager Tony La Russa.

Barring injuries, Suppan will join a rotation that includes
right-handed ace Ben Sheets, whose four-year, $38.5 million deal had
been the biggest in club history, plus left-hander Chris Capuano and
right-handers Dave Bush and Claudio Vargas. Suppan will reunite with
Brewers pitching coach Mike Maddux, who was with the Boston Red Sox
when Suppan made his first brief stops in the Majors in 1995 and 1996
and served as "a big influence" according to Suppan.


The Brewers coveted Suppan for his durability and experience. Capuano,
Sheets and Vargas will all be 28 years old on Opening Day, and Bush
will be 27. Suppan said he has no problem playing the role of old sage.

"That's how I learned," Suppan said. "Obviously, pitching in the World
Series for a championship team was a great experience, and what I try
to do is bring all of my experiences to wherever I'm at. If guys have
questions, I'll try to give them my honest answer."

Suppan made nine postseason starts for St. Louis from 2004-2006,
appearing in a pair of World Series and winning a championship ring
this year. He was named MVP of the '06 National League Championship
Series, allowing one earned run over two starts against the Mets.

For his career, Suppan is 106-101 in parts of 12 seasons, including
12-2 against Milwaukee. He has a 5-0 record in seven starts at Miller
Park, a run of success he cannot quite explain.

"I don't know that there's an answer for that," Suppan said.

Suppan traveled to Milwaukee just as news of free agent left-hander
Barry Zito's seven-year, $126 million agreement with the San Francisco
Giants began to circulate. Several of the teams seeking Zito's
services were looking at Suppan as Plan B, and even Brewers general
manager Doug Melvin wondered whether Suppan would wait for Zito to
sign before making his own decision.

"That had no bearing on my decision," Suppan insisted. "I was looking
for the right team for me. I wasn't strategizing and waiting for Barry
to sign or whomever to sign. I was trying to find the best fit for me,
and I found it here in Milwaukee. That's why I decided to sign here."

Suppan will be back in town on Jan. 11 for the team's Winter Warm-Up,
an invitation-only event featuring a number of players at Miller Park.
Brewers pitchers and catchers formally report to Spring Training on
Feb. 17.

Adam McCalvy is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to
the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
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here is a easy way to follow the brewers offseason moves:
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/hot_stove/y2006/free_agent_tracker.jsp?te\
amAct=mil

im glad to see chad moeller is GONE! have fun in cincy loser.

PHOENIX (AP) -- The Arizona Diamondbacks acquired left-hander Doug
Davis from Milwaukee on Saturday in a six-player deal that sent
catcher Johnny Estrada to the Brewers.

Right-handers Greg Aquino and Claudio Vargas also went to Milwaukee,
while the Diamondbacks obtained a pair of youngsters, left-hander Dana
Eveland and outfielder Dave Krynzel.

Davis, 31, is 62-63 with a 4.35 ERA in eight major league seasons. He
was 11-11 with a 4.91 ERA in 34 starts last season with Milwaukee and,
like Estrada, is arbitration-eligible.

Estrada, 30, hit .301 with 11 home runs and 71 RBIs during his only
season with Arizona. The switch-hitting former All-Star had the sixth
best batting average among NL catchers.

Starting pitching behind NL Cy Young Award winner Brandon Webb was a
major weakness for the Diamondbacks last season.

Davis, who has thrown at least 200 innings each of the last three
seasons, joins Webb and Livan Hernandez in Arizona's projected
rotation for next season.

Estrada was acquired by the Diamondbacks in a trade with Atlanta a
year ago. Despite his success at the plate, Estrada was unhappy in
Arizona and made it clear late in the season he would prefer to move on.

The Diamondbacks believe minor league catcher Miguel Montero is ready
for the majors, and Chris Snyder is coming off a solid season as
Estrada's backup.

The Brewers, meanwhile, like what Estrada brings to their lineup.

"Estrada has been a very good offensive catcher during his career,"
Milwaukee general manager Doug Melvin said. "His ability to switch
hit, and his high contact-low strikeout approach is something that the
Brewers offense has been missing."

The hard-throwing Aquino played parts of the last three seasons with
the Diamondbacks, going 2-3 with a 4.93 ERA in 111 relief appearance.
As a rookie, in 2004, he had 16 saves.

Vargas resurrected his career after being waived by the Washington
Nationals during the 2004 season. He was 21-16 with a 4.82 ERA in 52
appearances, 49 starts, for the Diamondbacks. Last season, Vargas was
12-10 with a 4.92 ERA.

Eveland, 23, is 1-4 with a 6.98 ERA in 36 major league games. He spent
most of last season with Triple-A Nashville, going 6-5 with a 2.74 ERA
in 20 games, 19 of them starts.

Krynzel, 24, has a .188 average in 21 big league games. Last year in
Nashville, he hit .231 with seven homers, 40 RBIs and 23 stolen bases.
He was Brewers' first-round pick, 11th overall, in the 2000 draft

Carlos Lee Signed a 6 year,100 mill contract with Houston Astros today

At 10:09 AM 11/19/2006,  bar15arb  offered the following:

>outfield:
>Leftfield-Bill Hall or Kevin Mench.
>CF-Unknown as of now, but it won't be Brady Clark. Rumors are that the
>Brewers are intrested in Dave Roberts and Juan Pierre. Gabe
>Gross/Laynce Nix could play here or Right.
>RF-Corey Hart/Gabe Gross/Laynce Nix. i see Hart starting amongst these
>3 though.



I'd like to see Hall in center, Gross and Hart on either side of
him.  I think they should dump Mench and Nix, and keep Jenkins and
Clark for the bench.






>infield:
>3B-Corey Koskie a huge question here at 3b-is he going to ever recover
>from that post concussion syndrom? Not sure if Graffino can play 3b.



I think Graffy is gone to free agency.  At least he filed for it, so
I don't see him coming back to MKE.




>they could always put hall here, but he never really produced at 3b
>for whatever reason. ryan braun may see some time at 3b come end of
>the year. im sure Cirillo will also see time here.




Cirillo has also filed for free agency.  Perhaps he will resign, but
I don't think we can assume he will be back.




>SS-JJ Hardy-Locked in at SS.
>2B-Rickie Weeks-expected to be fully recovered from wrist surgery.
>1B-Prince Fielder-another lock, but we dont have a backup 1b.
>C-Damian Miller/Mike Rivera. Miller has one year left on his contract
>and Mike River showed that he can play in the Big's.



Yes, but he is not very good defensively.  Between that and Miller's
declining health, C looks to be a weak spot for them.





>Rotation:
>1. Ben Sheets
>2. Chris Capuano
>3. Doug Davis
>4. Dave Bush
>5. Carlos Villanueva/Zach Jackson




Jackson starts the year in the minors -- I think CV has earned the five slot.





>Bullpen:
>Matt Wise, Jose Capellan, Derrick Turnbow ?, Rick Helling?, Dan Kolb?
>lots of ?'s here.
>Closer-Francisco Cordero, a no brainer




I believe Helling and Kolb have also filed for free agency--neither
is on the 40 man roster.  In any case, I don't expect either back.



   could we see Carlos Lee back in a brewers
>uniform? i highly doubt it, but that would be sweet...hes just askin
>for too much money.



That's the way I see it, too.  If he wouldn't sign the $50MM deal
they put in front of him in July, why would he come back now.


Chris

Well after gettin off to a decent start i have to say i was very
excited for the brewers season. Chris Capuano had a great first half,
but i think we can say that about a lot of the brewers this year.
Carlos Lee was doin pretty good to and then we traded him in an ok
deal, francisco cordero is a steal and i look forward to having him as
our closer for the next year. as far as injuries yet again...they hurt
us a lot. JJ Hardy, Ben Sheets.  Bill Hall had a great season and i
think he will even excel more next year. as far as the 07 season goes.
who really knows what our outfield will look like but i have some
predictions as to  maybe what our lineup will look like.

The team's main focus in the offseason will be rebuilding the starting
outfield alignment. There are also several health issues to address,
mainly assuring that players are fully recovered prior to spring
training. The bullpen no doubt will be tweaked, and the catching will
be examined as well.

outfield:
Leftfield-Bill Hall or Kevin Mench.
CF-Unknown as of now, but it won't be Brady Clark. Rumors are that the
Brewers are intrested in Dave Roberts and Juan Pierre. Gabe
Gross/Laynce Nix could play here or Right.
RF-Corey Hart/Gabe Gross/Laynce Nix. i see Hart starting amongst these
3 though.

infield:
3B-Corey Koskie a huge question here at 3b-is he going to ever recover
from that post concussion syndrom? Not sure if Graffino can play 3b.
they could always put hall here, but he never really produced at 3b
for whatever reason. ryan braun may see some time at 3b come end of
the year. im sure Cirillo will also see time here.
SS-JJ Hardy-Locked in at SS.
2B-Rickie Weeks-expected to be fully recovered from wrist surgery.
1B-Prince Fielder-another lock, but we dont have a backup 1b.
C-Damian Miller/Mike Rivera. Miller has one year left on his contract
and Mike River showed that he can play in the Big's.

Rotation:
1. Ben Sheets
2. Chris Capuano
3. Doug Davis
4. Dave Bush
5. Carlos Villanueva/Zach Jackson

Bullpen:
Matt Wise, Jose Capellan, Derrick Turnbow ?, Rick Helling?, Dan Kolb?
lots of ?'s here.
Closer-Francisco Cordero, a no brainer


BIGGEST NEEDS: If the Brewers decide to trade RF Geoff Jenkins, they
will be in the market for another run producer in the outfield. At
this point, it appears Corey Hart will play one corner spot, leaving
the other as well as center field to be determined. Bullpen help will
be sought as well, especially with 37-year-old catcher Damian Miller
wearing down considerably at the end of the season.

FREE AGENTS: 3B David Bell, INF Jeff Cirillo, INF Tony Graffanino, RHP
Geremi Gonzalez, RHP Rick Helling, RHP Dan Kolb, RHP Tomo Ohka.

The Brewers already have started negotiations with Graffanino's agent.
They also would like to keep Cirillo, who must decide if he wants to
play another season. There is some slight interest in Ohka, who would
have to take a pay cut to return.

ARBITRATION-ELIGIBLE: LHP Chris Capuano, INF Bill Hall, LHP Doug
Davis, OF Kevin Mench, LHP Brian Shouse.

Capuano and Hall are eligible for arbitration for the first time and
will merit significant pay raises. Davis is in his last year of
eligibility and is seeking a three-year deal. Mench looked awful after
coming from Texas in late July but probably will be kept. The Brewers
plan to keep Shouse as well.

IN LIMBO: RF Geoff Jenkins is signed for $7 million in 2007 but had a
significant fall-off in production this season, and was even benched
for a time in late August. The Brewers could choose to move him and
try somebody else, but his contract won't be easy to trade. Jenkins
has played with the Brewers his entire career and is the senior player
in terms of service (eight years).

PROSPECT WATCH: 3B Ryan Braun was the Brewers' minor league player of
the year, and RHP Yovani Gallardo was the pitcher of the year. Both
could be in Milwaukee uniforms at some point in 2007, with Gallardo
the better bet of the two. Gallardo is only 20 but is poised and
mature beyond his years, and has all the makings of a fast mover.
Braun, a first-round draft pick in 2005, is more likely to show up in
2008. Another prospect to keep an eye on is RHP Carlos Villanueva, who
has been very impressive during a September audition and will get a
chance to win a spot in the rotation next spring.

MEDICAL WATCH:

2B Rickie Weeks (wrist surgery) is expected to be fully recovered by
spring training.

SS J.J. Hardy (ankle surgery) is expected to be fully recovered by
spring training.

RHP Matt Wise (elbow nerve relocation) is expected to be fully
recovered by spring training.

3B Corey Koskie (post-concussion syndrome) has an uncertain prognosis,
but the Brewers are counting on him being ready to play again by the
spring.

OF Laynce Nix (toe surgery) may or may not be in the picture at the
start of 2007

Thats all i got for now any thoughts, comments, ideas lets here them
and i look forward to the 2007 season gettin underway! but first up is
the Winter Meetings. could we see Carlos Lee back in a brewers
uniform? i highly doubt it, but that would be sweet...hes just askin
for too much money.

ive had a really busy year. i moved from one place to another and had
a girlfreind durin the year in which we got engaged and everyone knows
how that is im sure. so its been really busy and crazy. hopefully i
will get some time every once ina  while to update. of course now that
its offseason i get the chance to.

Andy

At 09:56 PM 9/4/2006,  Randy  offered the following:
>Too bad that there is no hope for a .500 season after they dropped 10
>straight.  I'm guessing they will finish the season around 72 - 90
>which will be a dissapointment, but at least they will finish with a
>better record than the cubs for the second straight year :)



Yeah, in a year like this, you have to take the good bits where you
can find them.

I am hoping for at least 73 wins (to keep the losses out of the
90s).  With as solid as their pitching has been, I would think they
could accomplish that.



Chris

Too bad that there is no hope for a .500 season after they dropped 10
straight.  I'm guessing they will finish the season around 72 - 90
which will be a dissapointment, but at least they will finish with a
better record than the cubs for the second straight year :)

----- Original Message -----

From: brewcardssoxrocks

To: milwaukeebrewersbaseball@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 2:58 PM

Subject: Re: [Milwaukee Brewers Baseball] Trade

Yeah the Brewers do have a lot of outfielders, but I liked Cruz almost
more than any of them. His numbers in AAA were amazing. I do trust
Melvin becuase he has made some very good trades so far. Some people
are calling for his head, but you can't judge someone by one trade,
people must forget the good he brought our organization, for one we
wouldn't have Capuano, and Overbay is gone, but we have Bush and Gross
to replace them. That Spivey for Ohka deal was pretty sweet too. I just
didn't understand why Cruz had to be in this deal I felt we were giving
enough with Lee, too bad they didn't want one of our other outfielders.
Plus we just got 2 more outfielders when we have so many to begin with.
I have heard that some people think Melvin might trade Nix or Mench for
pitching, who knows though. I even read one Brewers fan on the message
boards say that he is no longer a Brewer fan because of this trade,
which I don't really understand, but the Brewers do not need fans like
that anyways. So yeah this is really long so I suppose I am done

Erin

Yeah the Brewers do have a lot of outfielders, but I liked Cruz almost
more than any of them. His numbers in AAA were amazing. I do trust
Melvin becuase he has made some very good trades so far. Some people
are calling for his head, but you can't judge someone by one trade,
people must forget the good he brought our organization, for one we
wouldn't have Capuano, and Overbay is gone, but we have Bush and Gross
to replace them. That Spivey for Ohka deal was pretty sweet too. I just
didn't understand why Cruz had to be in this deal I felt we were giving
enough with Lee, too bad they didn't want one of our other outfielders.
Plus we just got 2 more outfielders when we have so many to begin with.
I have heard that some people think Melvin might trade Nix or Mench for
pitching, who knows though. I even read one Brewers fan on the message
boards say that he is no longer a Brewer fan because of this trade,
which I don't really understand, but the Brewers do not need fans like
that anyways. So yeah this is really long so I suppose I am done

Erin

----- Original Message -----

From: brewcardssoxrocks

To: milwaukeebrewersbaseball@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:47 AM

Subject: [Milwaukee Brewers Baseball] Trade

Ok so I knew we were going to trade Carlos Lee and I was fine with that
I guess, becuase we had Nelson Cruz still and he was just tearing up
AAA, but we traded him too???? Wasn't Carlos Lee enough for Cordero,
Mench, and Nix. Cordero can be a closer I guess but he has struggled
this year. Mench is pretty good, but not compared to Carlos Lee, and
Nix pretty much has done pretty bad this year. I dont get why we had to
give them Cruz too, I know Melvin has made some good trades, but I
really dont understand why we had to throw Cruz in there too

Ok so I knew we were going to trade Carlos Lee and I was fine with that
I guess, becuase we had Nelson Cruz still and he was just tearing up
AAA, but we traded him too???? Wasn't Carlos Lee enough for Cordero,
Mench, and Nix. Cordero can be a closer I guess but he has struggled
this year. Mench is pretty good, but not compared to Carlos Lee, and
Nix pretty much has done pretty bad this year. I dont get why we had to
give them Cruz too, I know Melvin has made some good trades, but I
really dont understand why we had to throw Cruz in there too

At 12:38 PM 7/25/2006, brewcardssoxrocks offered:
>The announcers made a good point last night saying that it would be
>nice if the fans would give Turnbow a standing ovation, to show they
>are behind him, and thank him for what he has given us.



I agree.  That would be a class move.  I would like to see it.  It
could be the sort of shot in the arm DT needs right about now.




>  And like they
>said, if a offensive player struggles, it doesn't matter as much,b ut
>when a closer struggles it loses you the game, so they are more in the
>spotlight in that aspect. It's the same thing with Yost, maybe some of
>the fans feel he didn't make the right decision about Turnbow, but he
>has brought a lot of good things to this organization, and you
>shoudln't call for his head becuase of one decision.




Fans really turn quickly on a manager.  It is regrettable, but it
seems to be the nature of the job.




>  Hopefully if they
>put Turnbow in middle relief for awhile he can get back in a groove and
>maybe reclaim the closer spot.



I  think that is the way they need to go.  Let him have some
success  in relatively low-risk situations, then gradually raise the stakes.


Chris

The announcers made a good point last night saying that it would be
nice if the fans would give Turnbow a standing ovation, to show they
are behind him, and thank him for what he has given us. And like they
said, if a offensive player struggles, it doesn't matter as much,b ut
when a closer struggles it loses you the game, so they are more in the
spotlight in that aspect. It's the same thing with Yost, maybe some of
the fans feel he didn't make the right decision about Turnbow, but he
has brought a lot of good things to this organization, and you
shoudln't call for his head becuase of one decision. Hopefully if they
put Turnbow in middle relief for awhile he can get back in a groove and
maybe reclaim the closer spot.

I'm skeptical about Ben's return also.  My son and I have had rather lengthy discussions about this.  It seems that we are always "waiting for the Ace's return."  That is getting really old for us.