Here's a question that hopefully will spark some respectful discussion...



Should John receive financial compensation from the PDGA for photos used in a

publication?



--- In mfa-online@yahoogroups.com, John Solberg <solbergdiscgolf@...> wrote:

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> The PDGA contacted me for photos so you guys will show up in the mag

somewhere!

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If they use your photo, all you get is credit for taking the shot. No $$$

I've taken photos for years at the Majestic with no compensation.  I

consider it

my staff position for the event.  Plus, it's my way of cataloging the

event on a

personal level.  I've always sent them into the PDGA and basically get a photo

credit for photos used.  I've also always posted them on the MFA online Yahoo

group.  All I've ever asked for is that if any photos are reprinted in

magazines, fliers, programs etc., that I'd get credit for the photo taken.



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I asked the question because it's a topic that often comes up in the world of

photography. Should photographers "give away" their work? On another post John

states that his photos are up on the web and are free for people to use with the

exception of commercial use.  If the official PDGA mag runs some photos isn't

that commercial use?  They certainly are getting $$$ to run those mags.



Newspapers are bleeding money and they cut their staff photographers because

readers submit images for free (or maybe $5).  For the paper that's a good deal

as long as their readers don't notice a difference in quality.



If the PDGA doesn't have to pay for the images they run they can use that money

for other stuff (like little aluminum membership tags). Or if they gave John

some dough (or merch) he could use it locally at one of his fine leagues which

more than likely turns out a few new PDGA members each year.



This also somewhat ties in with Brian Mace's "Manifesto" that he posted years

ago where he calls out the Disc Golf community for criticizing any

vendors/TDs/LDs when they make money related to Disc Golf events.  He warns

everyone that unless we are open to paying these types of people instead of only

relying 100% on volunteers we will continue to primarily be playing for each

others money week after week.



Again, this is just something to talk about and i'm just using John's situation

because it's current.  I personally think that a photographer can do whatever

they please with their photo rights... I spent all day in the sun so forgive my

ramblings :)





--- In mfa-online@yahoogroups.com, John Solberg <solbergdiscgolf@...> wrote:

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> Short Answer NO!

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> However, if they feel compelled to provide stuff I can give away to my Disc

Golf League players as CTPS, I have no Problem whith that, however, cash to me,

Nope.

>  

> John Solberg

> MFA #1194

> PDGA #10613

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> --- On Fri, 7/3/09, greg stein <g_s4444@...> wrote:

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> From: greg stein <g_s4444@...>

> Subject: [mfa-online] Re: Minnesota Majestic Photos 2009

> To: mfa-online@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 9:01 PM

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> Here's a question that hopefully will spark some respectful discussion.. .

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> Should John receive financial compensation from the PDGA for photos used in a

publication?

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> --- In mfa-online@yahoogro ups.com, John Solberg <solbergdiscgolf@ ...> wrote:

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> > The PDGA contacted me for photos so you guys will show up in the mag

somewhere!

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Your views are definitely food for thought!  It would be nice to be

compensated

in some way from the PDGA using our photos, but since it's a player run

organization, I'm not sure their ready to do that?  They have

photographers all

over the country willing to provide their photos just to see them

printed in the

magazine.  I could definitely see rewarding the photographer for providing the

"Cover Shot" for the magazine.  I run a league as well and the thought of

compensating merchandise would be an awesome benefit for the use of our

photos.

I like John, am not interested in being paid monetarily.  I do it for the love

of the sport and to help provide a means of showcasing the events to our local

and national organiztions.



Bill Ashton











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Scanny,



I'll be sure to keep clicking!  Like I mentioned, taking pictures at

events has

always been a hobby of mine.  I love doing it and I'm always looking for the

perfect shot.  And yes, I do like the fact that I can get up close to the Big

Dogs and capture them while playing.  I've had several Majestic players tag my

photos this year from the four albums I posted on my facebook page.  If feels

good to know that the players appreciated seeing my work behind the lens.



Bill Ashton















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