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#615 From: "Yount, Jim T." <jim.yount@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:51 pm
Subject: TOSC Annual Meeting Tonight!
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I may have already forwarded this to you – if so, I apologize (just another reminder!).

 

Good chance to be brought up to speed on the impact of 2C/300 on the realm of parks, trails, and open space in the Pikes Peak region by the Colorado Springs employees that have to manage the books (in other words, no sugar coating, just the facts).

 

Jim Yount

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TOSC Annual Meeting this Thursday!

 

Trails and Open Space Coalition                                        

 

 

 

OUR CITY PARKS, TRAILS & OPEN SPACE:   

 What's next?

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                  TOSC Annual Meeting

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The Trails and Open Space Coalition looks at this question at their annual meeting taking place:
 
Thursday, November 19th at 7 p.m.
Carnegie Reading Room of Penrose Library
20 N. Cascade in Colorado Springs

 
Top members of the Colorado Springs parks staff and TOSC will brief the public on the proposed budget cuts and how those will negatively impact the city's parks, open space and trails - and offer sustainable solutions.

 

There will also be an opportunity to find out how volunteers  can step in and help minimize the damage.
 
Members of TOSC and interested members of the public are invited.

 

 

 

 

 

Three good reasons to get out in the snow:

 

It's invigorating!

Your dog will thank you.

Hot cocoa afterwards...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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#614 From: "Yount, Jim T." <jim.yount@...>
Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:31 pm
Subject: RE: Medicine Wheel - REMINDER - Forest Service Open House Tonight - Please Attend! - 6pm to 8pm [2 Attachments]
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One last thing I forgot to mention – if you can’t attend tonight and still want to make comments, please get them in by Nov.1.  They plan on then using the next few months to formulate a “preferred” plan and will then bring that before the public at meetings in Feb. of next year.

 

Jim Yount

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From: Yount, Jim T.
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:23 PM
To: Jim Schwerin; Medicine Wheel
Cc: Jim Yount
Subject: RE: Medicine Wheel - REMINDER - Forest Service Open House Tonight - Please Attend! - 6pm to 8pm [2 Attachments]

 

I attended last nights meeting in Woodland Park and I wanted to pass along some additional information that might be helpful:

 

-          although it is an open house, they do split people into groups and go over some basic concepts at the beginning onf the meeting, so if you can be there @ 6pm, that would probably prove to be useful.

 

-          They unveiled 3 concept plans (they don’t have a preferred one) – I’ll mention some main points I came away with, but by no means are these snippets complete regarding everything in the plans:

 

o        The first has substantial amounts of new multiuse non-motorized singletrack trails that do a pretty good job of linking everything together.  It also had substantial amounts of new motorized trails at the Rainbow Falls motorized area, which I think is probably a good thing.  There were no new motorized trails anywhere else in the area being covered.

o        The second had new motorized emphasis in 2 additional areas to the Rainbow Falls area, but dropped off the new non-motorized singletrack.

o        The third had the mountainbike emphasis area discussed below, but also left out most of the new non-motorized singletrack.

 

I came away thinking that I’d like to see the best of all three rolled into one:

 

- Plenty of new non-motorized singletrack trails linking everything so you can do some nice epic rides from Manitou to Woodland Park to Monument, etc.  I also emphasized that links from communities to the trail network are important.  Specifically that liks to Manitou and Cascade should be included (make the Williams Canyon and Mt. Pyramid Trails that link Cascade and Manitou to the Waldo Canyon Trail official forest service trails).  I’m not as familiar with the trails further north, so maybe those attending tonight can voice similar opinions regarding other communities (Monument, Palmer Lake, etc.)

                        - I liked the fact that they were trying to accommodate the motorized users by including new trails, both singletrack and wider, with “challenge” areas for rockcrawling, etc.

                        - The mountain bike emphasis area is a good idea – not that it be exclusive to mtb use, but that the trails be planned with that user group as the main target.  The trails that they had designated for this use were current roads, so it is a good idea to emphasize that new singletrack is greatly preferred for that use over existing roads.

                        - I also echoed Jim’s thought below that all trails should be inclusive of all non-motorized users.  Properly designed trails can be shared without conflict.  User-specific trails can have their place, but in general it opens a can of worms that may eventually lead to mountain bikes being excluded from the trails we love.

 

 

Don’t forget, if you want any current trail that is not a “forest service designated” trail to be recognized by the USFS as “official” or if you want any new trail to be constructed (even if it’s just to link existing trails), now is the time to speak up.  It is virtually impossible to get this done on a trail by trail basis since every change has to have an environmental study done (go through the NEPA process).  The great thing about the current Management Plan process is that all of the changes will be done under one large NEPA process.  The down side is that another might not be done for this area for another 10-20 yrs.  SO SPEAK UP NOW!

 

And don’t forget to thank the employees of the Forest Service for all they do for us!

 

Jim Yount

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From: medicine_wheel_PPR@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medicine_wheel_PPR@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Schwerin
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:49 AM
To: Medicine Wheel
Subject: Medicine Wheel - REMINDER - Forest Service Open House Tonight - Please Attend! - 6pm to 8pm [2 Attachments]

 

 

[Attachment(s) from Jim Schwerin included below]

Hi All,

 

There is a US Forest Service Open House tonight regarding the South Rampart Travel Management Plan and we're asking as many riders as possible to attend.

 

·         What is it?  The Forest Service is required to implement a plan governing who uses what trails and roads and where in the national forest.  This means that if mountain bikers don't show up and provide their input, then mountain bikers may be shut out.

 

·         What area does the plan cover?  This particular plan covers the Pike National Forest and Rampart Range from roughly Garden of the Gods north all the way to Rainbow Falls, bordered on the east by the front range and by Highway 67 on the west.  This includes Rampart Reservoir, Shubarth/Deadman's, and the trails around Monument.  Together, it's some of the best riding within an hour's drive of the Springs.

 

·         Where's the meeting?  Colorado Springs Utilities, Leon Young Service Center, Pikes Peak Room (2nd Floor), 1521 Hancock Expressway, Colorado Springs, CO (Google map link here)

 

·         What's going to happen?  This is the second set of meetings in which USFS will be presenting their thoughts and the outcome of the first meetings which happened in June.  This is an "open house" type format, so you can show up any time between 6:00 and 8:00 and provide your feedback.

 

·         What's our position?  While we have suggested that the area from Rampart Reservoir to Mount Herman Road is an excellent mountain biking area, MWTA's position is that mountain biking should be allowed on all trails that are open to non-motorized uses.  In particular (and this is the main point we want to get across), we don't want separate trails for separate non-motorized uses, i.e. "hiking only" or "horses only" or "bikes only".

 

For more information, you can visit the USFS web site here.  I have also attached a couple of documents from USFS with more information.

 

During the first set of meetings, while we had a good response from USFS, there were some people who wanted "less mountain biking access" or "separate hiking or horse trails".  It's important that we don't let that happen!

 

Thanks for your support in helping keep access open for everyone.

 

 

Jim Schwerin
Medicine Wheel Trail Advocates, Inc.
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