Hi Krista, Yeah, it's very depresssing, especially with us being
behind so many games. I dread watching the games vs. the Evil Empire
this weekend. As least today's game will be blacked out here on the
West Coast, I think. I'm curious about the type of knee problem he
has. I'll look for an medical article and post it shortly.

I still plan to post about day three of the Angel's games and
download the pictures I took. Hopefully by late Sunday. I've been
really busy with school.

Lynne


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--- In mannyacs@yahoogroups.com, "Krista" <krista@...> wrote:
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> oh no...that's depressing. Both Manny and Papelbon are out for the
> season. :( I hope Manny gets better real soon!
>
> Krista

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> --- In mannyacs@yahoogroups.com, "Lynne" <lynne@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Manny out for the rest of the season? This is so sad. I know he
needs to get well but I'll miss him on the field. The games haven't
been the same without number 24.
> >
> > Have a good weekend,
> >
> > Lynne
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> > BALTIMORE -- Red Sox manager Terry Francona said after a
closed-door meeting with Manny Ramírez yesterday that "there's a
chance" Ramírez, who has been diagnosed with patellar tendinitis in
his right knee, will not play the rest of the season.
> >
> > "He wants to play," Francona said before the Sox beat the Baltimore
Orioles, 6-5, last night, "but he can't."
> >
> > Francona said he had spoken with Thomas Gill, the team's medical
director, before determining that Ramírez would be unavailable to play
this weekend against the Yankees, who took control of the American
League East race when they swept five games from the Sox in Fenway
Park last month, and can clinch their ninth straight division title
during a four-game series that opens tonight in Yankee Stadium.
> >
> > "As much as we don't want to hear it, rest is probably what he
needs," Francona said.
> >
> > The Yankees reduced their magic number to clinch to six by beating
the Devil Rays, 7-4, last night, and Sox second baseman Mark Loretta
kept it from shrinking further by singling home the tying run in the
eighth and the winning run in the ninth, with Mike Timlin inducing
Ramon Hernandez to roll into a game-ending double play with the tying
run at third for the save.
> >
> > "You can't run from guys, nor will we -- if we're going to win
games, we need him, whether it's the seventh, eighth, or ninth,"
Francona said of turning to Timlin.
> >
> > In the ninth, Timlin gave up a leadoff double to Melvin Mora,
leading Francona to gamble on an intentional walk to Miguel Tejada
with one out, before Timlin got Hernandez to hit a ground ball to
shortstop
Alex Cora.
> >
> > "It's not fun," Francona said of putting the potential winning run
on base. "The percentages are not in your favor."

> > The odds of seeing Ramírez also seem greatly reduced after his
meeting with Francona, which came at the manager's request. Since
taking himself out of the last game of the Yankee series Aug. 21 with
a sore hamstring, Ramírez has appeared in eight games, batting .091 (2
for 22). In the first four games of the Yankee series, he went 8 for 11
with 2 home runs, 2 doubles, and 7 RBIs while walking seven times.
Last night was the 14th game he has missed since then.

> > "I don't know that that's going to happen," Francona said of
shutting down Ramírez the rest of the way. "I do think it's a
possibility. If he sits another week, we try to balance winning every
game you can and using common sense. We just talked about it a little bit.
> >
> > "He said not only when he runs, but when he tries to get into his
balance point hitting, it's when it's kind of, I shouldn't say it's
grinding, but it's not feeling a lot better yet. In talking to Dr.
Gill, the one thing he needs is rest, and if he plays, that's not
rest. [Ramírez] was very open, and I was appreciative. He's been like
that all year. We'll do the best we can, like we do with everybody."
> >
> > Because it is Ramírez, who has a history of citing hamstring
injuries under dubious circumstances, questions have been raised about
this latest injury, especially after a report in the Providence Journal
during the Yankee series that Ramírez had to be talked into playing
one game because he was miffed about a scorer's ruling. Ramírez, who
does not speak with the Boston print media, has never responded to
that allegation, but while on the West Coast last month, general
manager Theo Epstein alluded to Ramírez's problem as a "legitimate
injury."
> >
> > David Ortiz has defended Ramírez, saying his knee has been
bothering him for some time, and on Wednesday night, another Sox
veteran said he was convinced Ramírez was injured, that Ramírez had
expressed frustration to him about his inability to play on the West
Coast swing and his awareness of how much the team needed him.
> >
> > Third baseman Mike Lowell also had addressed the subject of
Ramírez's health when he first went down with the injury .
> >
> > "Since this is my first year of playing with Manny, I don't know
how things were dealt with," Lowell said at the time. "He's obviously a
different personality and I have to give him the benefit of the doubt
because we ran him out there every day, he played every day. So if he
says he can't play, I've got to believe he can't play."
> >
> > Ramírez is batting .318 with 34 home runs and 101 RBIs. He is
second in the AL in on-base percentage at .436 and fourth in slugging
> > percentage at .612. Earlier this season, he had a career-best
27-game hitting streak.
> >
> > Without Ramírez in the lineup last night, Ortiz walked four times,
including once to load the bases in the eighth, when the Sox rallied
to tie the score on three singles. Ortiz fouled out to third with the
bases loaded in the ninth, ending the series 0 for 10 with five walks.

> > He is hitting just .167 (9 for 54) against the Orioles, his worst
> > average against any team this season.
> >
> > Source: Gordon Edes / boston.com