Hi All,

Well its been some time since I've posted anything on this group.
Sorry about that but I've been concentrating more on the web site

www.lunkuenacademy.com

Anyway, I and some of my students are off to the World Conference
this November in Hong Kong so I should have loads of pictures and
stories to tell when we get back.

Also I might be putting an article together for combat magazine kind
of like a diary of the trip with some photo's to boot.

If your going this year or have been before drop me a line.

Maybe we can hook up there and have a chat!

Regards,

Steve.

Dear all wing chun practitioners,
I am a wing chun practitioner from Hong Kong and was enthusiastic in
all styles of wing chun especially the wong shun leung¡¦s. I have
collected some rare videos of wong shun leung (the king of talking
hands, Bruce lee¡¦s si hing who passed away in 1997) that were never
seen before. Now, I would now like to share them out.
1. Wong shun leung seminars of all the 3 forms, and dummy
(with detailed explanation of each technique)
2. wong shun leung interview (with explanation of some chi sao
techniques)
3. Wong shun leung bejing seminar in 96 etc¡K¡K¡K¡K¡K¡K.
All are personal records / in-house productions. They were for inner
door / private students previously. Very valuable.
Interested parties please send email to:
smfong_2000@...
and please indicate your budget.
Yours sincerely,
smfong

In the film "The Silent Flute" there was a great quote.

"You can't step on the same piece of water twice"

Well you can if it's frozen.

Chi Sao is just the same, like water, or at least it should be.
Other than respecting your partner, the important rule is not to be
predictable. Chi Sao if played correctly will be different each time
you play it. Hard thing is to get out of the habit of working set
patterns, it should flow free like a conversation.

Otherwise you become like ice.

Gosh how profound!


--- In lunkuenacademyofwingchun@yahoogroups.com, "kermit_blueme"
<kermit_blueme@y...> wrote:
> Just to say thank you for the response.  Your thoughts do make alot
> of sense.  In my wing chun training, chi sau has been a focal point
> that binds the system together, supposedly giving fluidity to the
> practitioner.
> However, in my past experiences, chi sau with other practitioners
has
> been like a grudge match, with other peoples ego's getting in the
way
> of developement.  Leading to a rigid exchange of 'super stiff' arms
> trying to wade through and score 'points'.
> My views on chi sau are that two people should mutually try and
learn
> something everytime they roll.  I see chi sau as the best way to
> understand wing chun.  To see what techniques will flow from one to
> another under different variables.  What do I use when I'm
> pulled/pushed for example.  Trying a technique out, seeing whether
it
> does the required job.  Looking at the workings of the technique to
> see why it was or was not successful, and looking for ways to
> simplify the technique if possible, with both practitioners
> exchanging ideas and experimenting together.  When both parties
have
> a deeper understanding of the techniques they are using and how
they
> interact with timing and positioning, does this lead to fluidity?
Is
> this how chi sau should be performed? Or is there no set way?

Just to say thank you for the response.  Your thoughts do make alot
of sense.  In my wing chun training, chi sau has been a focal point
that binds the system together, supposedly giving fluidity to the
practitioner.
However, in my past experiences, chi sau with other practitioners has
been like a grudge match, with other peoples ego's getting in the way
of developement.  Leading to a rigid exchange of 'super stiff' arms
trying to wade through and score 'points'.
My views on chi sau are that two people should mutually try and learn
something everytime they roll.  I see chi sau as the best way to
understand wing chun.  To see what techniques will flow from one to
another under different variables.  What do I use when I'm
pulled/pushed for example.  Trying a technique out, seeing whether it
does the required job.  Looking at the workings of the technique to
see why it was or was not successful, and looking for ways to
simplify the technique if possible, with both practitioners
exchanging ideas and experimenting together.  When both parties have
a deeper understanding of the techniques they are using and how they
interact with timing and positioning, does this lead to fluidity?  Is
this how chi sau should be performed? Or is there no set way?

--- In lunkuenacademyofwingchun@yahoogroups.com, "kermit_blueme"
<kermit_blueme@y...> wrote:
> After studying several different martial art styles for some years,
I
> came across wing chun.  Having trained in this art for some time
now,
> I am of the opinion that this art, along with only a handful of
> others is built for pure efficiency in fighting.  However, unlike
the
> other arts of interest I have encountered, wing chun is the only
art
> that is so dependent on training with others to perform many of the
> various techniques included within the style.  Great, instead
> of 'pretending' to apply my techniques in shadow sparring and
katas,
> I actually get to see and feel how my techniques would work on
Hi,

Well you're not wrong but it's not as simple as that.

Playing Chi Sao with more advanced students of Wing Chun does not
mean you will necessarily advance any quicker.

This depends on the senior student and how he/she plays Chi Sao.

Example being, if we were to Chi Sao and I just kept peppering you
with strikes and made it difficult for you, then you would only learn
to flinch. If however I were to Chi Sao at your level and throw in a
few techniques and allowed you to train against them, then your
skills would advance given time.

Wing Chun is as much a frame of mind as it is a martial art.

If you train with a partner of a similar level you can still advance
if you keep an open mind, be prepared to experiment and make mistakes.

Regards,

Steve

www.lunkuenacademy.com



> another person, on a constant basis.  The best example of this is
> wing chun's chi-sau exercises.  To me this is an invaluable
training
> system.  My problem is this, to truelly progress in wing chun, you
> must be allowed to progress.  The aim being, to become fluent in
wing
> chun.  An obtainable goal only with the right mind set, many years
> dedicated training, and lots and lots of chi sau.  If one does not
> regularly chi sau with an advanced practitioner of this art, does
> his/her ability stay at an idle level, not dropping, but not at the
> same time really improving?  Is a student's progression within this
> style governed by his/herself or by the people they are training
> with?  My ideas and philosophies on wing chun, I need to explore
and
> develope for myself.  The trouble with this is that I need someone
to
> experiment my ideas and concepts with.  If I cannot find somoene of
> an advanced level to do this with, will my wing chun ever improve,
or
> will my ability be governed by others?

After studying several different martial art styles for some years, I
came across wing chun.  Having trained in this art for some time now,
I am of the opinion that this art, along with only a handful of
others is built for pure efficiency in fighting.  However, unlike the
other arts of interest I have encountered, wing chun is the only art
that is so dependent on training with others to perform many of the
various techniques included within the style.  Great, instead
of 'pretending' to apply my techniques in shadow sparring and katas,
I actually get to see and feel how my techniques would work on
another person, on a constant basis.  The best example of this is
wing chun's chi-sau exercises.  To me this is an invaluable training
system.  My problem is this, to truelly progress in wing chun, you
must be allowed to progress.  The aim being, to become fluent in wing
chun.  An obtainable goal only with the right mind set, many years
dedicated training, and lots and lots of chi sau.  If one does not
regularly chi sau with an advanced practitioner of this art, does
his/her ability stay at an idle level, not dropping, but not at the
same time really improving?  Is a student's progression within this
style governed by his/herself or by the people they are training
with?  My ideas and philosophies on wing chun, I need to explore and
develope for myself.  The trouble with this is that I need someone to
experiment my ideas and concepts with.  If I cannot find somoene of
an advanced level to do this with, will my wing chun ever improve, or
will my ability be governed by others?

Greetings All,

Please be sure to check put our web site

www.lunkuenacademy.com

If you have any interesting articles you would like to submit, please
feel free to email me at

srplyons@...

Cheers,

Steve.

Matt,

No offence taken, i'ts nice to see a positive attitude.

Good luck on the day,

Steve.

--- In lunkuenacademyofwingchun@yahoogroups.com, Matthew McKenzie
<bassrunna@y...> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I spoke to Paul today at training and he said the
> exact thing :) i may have put my foot in it a bit! it
> wasn't intended :)
>
> See you on the 15th
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
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Steve,

I spoke to Paul today at training and he said the
exact thing :) i may have put my foot in it a bit! it
wasn't intended :)

See you on the 15th

Matt




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Matt,

I will have the pleasure of grading you on the 15th.

We shall see, we shall see :-)

Regards,

Steve.

--- In lunkuenacademyofwingchun@yahoogroups.com, bassrunna@y... wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am new to Wing Chun, having started training about 6 months ago.
> I have learnt a lot so far and at the moment i am preparing myself
> for Red 1 grading. I say i have learnt a lot, i am sure it is
> nothing compared to what i will be learning in the future!
>
> I have noticed with Wing Chun, as i'm sure you all have, is that
> size and age doesn't matter. After traning one evening i was
> practicing the Red 1 Syllabus and came across the Tan Sao. Now,
that
> is not one of my most favourite moves and i have been having a lot
> of trouble getting it right - i guess that's because i'm trying too
> hard, getting uptight and frustrate, and not relaxing. My father
> walked by and i asked him if i could just try it on him. After a
few
> failed attempts i realised that once i had relaxed and not thought
> about what i was doing so much as feeling what i was doing did the
> Tan Sao start to work effectively to the point where i deflected my
> 14 stone father's punch - and he wasn't throwing them in softly!!!
>
> I am learning more and more with each time i train, but even more
> when i let it become natural to the way i react to things; without
> thinking, but doing.
>
> I'll let you know who i get on with my grading - i'm sure i'll
> pass :)
>
> Matt

Hi,

I am new to Wing Chun, having started training about 6 months ago.
I have learnt a lot so far and at the moment i am preparing myself
for Red 1 grading. I say i have learnt a lot, i am sure it is
nothing compared to what i will be learning in the future!

I have noticed with Wing Chun, as i'm sure you all have, is that
size and age doesn't matter. After traning one evening i was
practicing the Red 1 Syllabus and came across the Tan Sao. Now, that
is not one of my most favourite moves and i have been having a lot
of trouble getting it right - i guess that's because i'm trying too
hard, getting uptight and frustrate, and not relaxing. My father
walked by and i asked him if i could just try it on him. After a few
failed attempts i realised that once i had relaxed and not thought
about what i was doing so much as feeling what i was doing did the
Tan Sao start to work effectively to the point where i deflected my
14 stone father's punch - and he wasn't throwing them in softly!!!

I am learning more and more with each time i train, but even more
when i let it become natural to the way i react to things; without
thinking, but doing.

I'll let you know who i get on with my grading - i'm sure i'll
pass :)

Matt

Dear Martial Arts Fan,

Meibukan Magazine #2 is out!

This issue with:
• An interview with Master Kiem Hoo Lee
• Applications of Kung Fu techniques
• New ideas on the history of Goju-ryu
• The risks of taking a beating

You can download the editions of Meibukan Magazine for free at:
www.meibukanmagazine.org

Steve,

   Great. I will add your site this evening. Thanks.

Peace,
Erik


sifugen1 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Erik,

Point taken :-)

Sure feel free to add my site.

Take care,

Steve.



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<daoist_linaiwei@y...> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
>
>  Interesting site. I enjoyed the pictures. Would it be alright if I
post your site
> on my school's website and egroups?
>
> Lau Wai Wing Chun Tong - Temple
> Yahoo! Groups : Wing_Chun_Unification
>
>  And just a heads up, Sifu is a man's title, Simu would be for
women in the
> Cantonese language. lol  My sword teacher, a cantonese woman,
laughed at me and asked me if she was a man after I had called her
Sifu.  hehehe
>   I call her Shi Niang in Mandarin, which means Mother Teacher, as
Shi Fu would be Father teacher. Cantonese, Lo Si would be teacher,
Sifu father teacher, and so on. But just wanted to clear it up.
>
>  Anyway,  good site. I thought the Sifu profiles were a fun touch.
>
> Peace,
> Erik
>
>
> sifugen1 <no_reply@www.lunkuenacademy.comyahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Erik,
>
> Maybe you would like to visit my site.
>
> www.lunkuenacademy.com
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve.
>
>
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> <daoist_linaihui@y...> wrote:
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> >
> >   I am updating my website and the egroups web page. I would like
> to post the
> > links to the web sites you all have so your information may be
> placed out to more
> > communities.
> >
> >  Thanks,
> > Erik Oliva
> > Lau Wai Wing Chun Tong - Temple
> >
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> >
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Erik,

Point taken :-)

Sure feel free to add my site.

Take care,

Steve.



--- In lunkuenacademyofwingchun@yahoogroups.com, Aiwei Lin
<daoist_linaiwei@y...> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
>
>  Interesting site. I enjoyed the pictures. Would it be alright if I
post your site
> on my school's website and egroups?
>
> Lau Wai Wing Chun Tong - Temple
> Yahoo! Groups : Wing_Chun_Unification
>
>  And just a heads up, Sifu is a man's title, Simu would be for
women in the
> Cantonese language. lol  My sword teacher, a cantonese woman,
laughed at me and asked me if she was a man after I had called her
Sifu.  hehehe
>   I call her Shi Niang in Mandarin, which means Mother Teacher, as
Shi Fu would be Father teacher. Cantonese, Lo Si would be teacher,
Sifu father teacher, and so on. But just wanted to clear it up.
>
>  Anyway,  good site. I thought the Sifu profiles were a fun touch.
>
> Peace,
> Erik
>
>
> sifugen1 <no_reply@www.lunkuenacademy.comyahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Erik,
>
> Maybe you would like to visit my site.
>
> www.lunkuenacademy.com
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve.
>
>
> --- In lunkuenacademyofwingchun@yahoogroups.com, Erik Oliva
> <daoist_linaihui@y...> wrote:
> > Hello Every One,
> >
> >   I am updating my website and the egroups web page. I would like
> to post the
> > links to the web sites you all have so your information may be
> placed out to more
> > communities.
> >
> >  Thanks,
> > Erik Oliva
> > Lau Wai Wing Chun Tong - Temple
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups : Wing_Chun_Unification
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Steve,


  Interesting site. I enjoyed the pictures. Would it be alright if I post your
site
on my school's website and egroups?

Lau Wai Wing Chun Tong - Temple
Yahoo! Groups : Wing_Chun_Unification

  And just a heads up, Sifu is a man's title, Simu would be for women in the
Cantonese language. lol  My sword teacher, a cantonese woman, laughed at me and
asked me if she was a man after I had called her Sifu.  hehehe
   I call her Shi Niang in Mandarin, which means Mother Teacher, as Shi Fu would
be Father teacher. Cantonese, Lo Si would be teacher, Sifu father teacher, and
so on. But just wanted to clear it up.

  Anyway,  good site. I thought the Sifu profiles were a fun touch.

Peace,
Erik


sifugen1 <no_reply@www.lunkuenacademy.comyahoogroups.com> wrote:
Erik,

Maybe you would like to visit my site.

www.lunkuenacademy.com

Cheers,

Steve.


--- In lunkuenacademyofwingchun@yahoogroups.com, Erik Oliva
<daoist_linaihui@y...> wrote:
> Hello Every One,
>
>   I am updating my website and the egroups web page. I would like
to post the
> links to the web sites you all have so your information may be
placed out to more
> communities.
>
>  Thanks,
> Erik Oliva
> Lau Wai Wing Chun Tong - Temple
>
> Yahoo! Groups : Wing_Chun_Unification
>
>
>
>
>
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Maybe you would like to visit my site.

www.lunkuenacademy.com

Cheers,

Steve.


--- In lunkuenacademyofwingchun@yahoogroups.com, Erik Oliva
<daoist_linaihui@y...> wrote:
> Hello Every One,
>
>   I am updating my website and the egroups web page. I would like
to post the
> links to the web sites you all have so your information may be
placed out to more
> communities.
>
>  Thanks,
> Erik Oliva
> Lau Wai Wing Chun Tong - Temple
>
> Yahoo! Groups : Wing_Chun_Unification
>
>
>
>
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Hello Every One,

   I am updating my website and the egroups web page. I would like to post the
links to the web sites you all have so your information may be placed out to
more
communities.

  Thanks,
Erik Oliva
Lau Wai Wing Chun Tong - Temple

Yahoo! Groups : Wing_Chun_Unification





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Hello Every One,

    I did not post the link to the egroups I created because I wanted permission
from the moderator to do so. I have received positive responses from many. Looks
like there can be something manifesting in this light.
    One day, not impossible, we could all come together and enjoy eachother's
company while sharing some Wing Chun. A big vision would be to gather all of us
under one roof. Interesting...?  No superiority, just a familial experience in
our Wing Chun. Many groups have had a similar vision, I was not aware of, yet I
wish to bring another level of recognition and unity to the table.
     Let us all go to a higher place in our existence... it will only lead us to
developing better skills in Wing Chun.  A family that works together, exists.

  Yahoo! Groups : Wing_Chun_Unification

  Thank You,

Erik Oliva

Lau Wai Wing Chun Tong
1871(E) Hubbard Pl.
Brooklyn NY 11210
718-236-2968


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Greetings to All;

   My name is Erik Oliva. I am a teacher and student under Sifu Alan Goldberg
of the Lau Wai Wing Chun Tong(Jason Lau Wing Chun School).
    My reason in writing to every one, is to create a communication with the
entire
Wing Chun Community World Wide. There are many families of Wing Chun that are
not aware of eachother, and many different methods that have been created to use
integrate Wing Chun into daily living.
    From my research, many styles of Wing Chun have been created, some have
legite lineage and some do not. It seems that their is a separation in the
existence of Wing Chun. This separation has caused many families to disregard
eachother. This outcome does not play well for the history of our Wing Chun Kung
Fu.
    With separation and ego within Wing Chun, we can all be sure to have a
scattered future and confused history of our lineage and techniques,principles,
etc. This will also familiarize everyone on the many false styles of Wing Chun
being created in vain. Keep Wing Chun pure, and it will live on throughout
history in a complete manner.

    My gaol is to work together with the Lineage holders, teachers and students
of the World Wide Community of Wing Chun Kung Fu, to preserve the many stories
in Wing Chun history according to each specific lineage, particular form
practice, ideas and methods of workinig with Wing Chun Kung Fu.
    We all play a part in preserving our family history of Wing Chun. Now we can
reach world wide to other families and share our knowledge and familiarity with
Wing Chun Kung Fu.

   I have created an egroups focused on this cause. I ask the Moderators of each
of these groups to allow me to add their egroup addresses to the mailing list of
the egroups I have created in light of Wing Chun Unification.

Thank You all for your time and patience. I look forward to the day we can all
work together as a family in Wing Chun Kung Fu.

Erik Oliva,
Lau Wai Wing Chun Tong
1871(E) Hubbard Pl.
Brooklyn NY 11210
718-236-2968



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Am new to the group and would really appreciate it if you could give
me some info. I have been studying Wing Chun for about 6 months now
but am moving due to job commitments. I am really looking for Wing
Chun Clubs in the Leatherhead/Surrey area.

Thanks.

Hi Everyone,
I thought might be of interest.
http://www.ditdajows.com
they have herbs as well. I had gotten some pain cream from a friend &
they finally gave me the link... the cream works great! It doesnt
even have a smell to it.


Kind Regards,
lil_natural_one

American Ving Tsun Kung Fu Academy
Moy Yat Ving Tsun Kung Fu of Texas

http://www.moyyat.net

This is an incredible resource for the student of Ving Tsun, or anyone who is
interested in learning more about the lineage, techniques, and philosophy of
the Moy Yat family of Ving Tsun.

Yip Man is widely regarded as the father of modern Ving Tsun, yet little is
known about one of his closest desciples (and the youngest person to
become a sifu under Yip Man) -- Moy Yat.

For a better insight into this accomplished healer, artist, and kung fu master,
visit the site. A must for anyone seeking deeper insight into the system.

Hi new updates to web site include

Video clips
===========
Currently there are 2 clips on site.

Will be adding more over the next few weeks, this time with sound.

Clips will include

Grand Master Ip Chun performing Chum Kiu.

Various parts of Lun Kuen Fighting Form.

Articles
========

Posted 1 article to start the ball rolling.

If you have any articles that you wish to submit just email them
to me and if the content is valid I will be happy to include them.

EMail to srplyons@...

Web Address www.lunkuenacademy.com

Cheers,

Steve.

Hi All,

Have been working hard on the site.

Now have added some pictures of Grandmaster Yip Chun and myself
training on the beach.

Also included club syllabus and general tidy up.

Give it a view and maybe some feedback.

Cheers,

Steve.

Hi all,

Have been very busy putting the club web site together.

Its still in a state of flux with new features going in on a daily
basis.

Feel free to check it out, lt me know what you think.

www.lunkuenacademy.com

Regards,

Steve.

Hi,

I have been invited to FatSan in November for the grand opening of
the Yip Man museum.

Any of you guys out there going to attend?

--- In lunkuenacademyofwingchun@y..., reysem <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> "So ......... Wing Chun does have a secret in that the simple
answer
> is usually the correct one..."
>
> I agree 100%! Sometimes the best kept secrets are so obvious that
we
> tend to overlook them.

Thanks for that, for a moment I thought I was losing my mind!!

A good example was last nights class.

We spent some time applying arm locks, then I asked the students to
come up with effective counters to the locks.

There was a fair deal of laughing (a happy class) as they
experimented with their partners. When after 10 - 15 minutes I
pointed out how simple some of the counters were, they rolled their
eyes, and felt pretty silly.

All part of the learning process!!

Cheers,

Steve.

"So ......... Wing Chun does have a secret in that the simple answer
is usually the correct one..."

I agree 100%! Sometimes the best kept secrets are so obvious that we
tend to overlook them.

--- In lunkuenacademyofwingchun@y..., reysem <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> So the secret of wing chun is, "there is no secret"? That's no
secret!

Well it is if you think about it.

In general students tend to over complicate things and get frustrated
when they cant apply various techniques.

When the solution to the problem is pointed out some just laugh at
how simple it was. Trouble is they are looking for a complicated
solution rather than the most simple (guess its human nature).

So ......... Wing Chun does have a secret in that the simple answer
is usually the correct one, and no matter how often a teacher will
tell a student this, he/she has to discover it for themselves.

Cheers,

Steve

So the secret of wing chun is, "there is no secret"? That's no secret!