Herb,

My plate conferences last about 2 minutes at most and include those "holes
in the fence" areas.  I takes maybe 15 seconds to point them out.  I cover
the standard basics as well (proper equipment, jewelry, hustle, etc.).

Bruce Taylor
District Umpire-in-Chief (Baseball)
Arizona District 5





>From: Herb Root <hroot@...>
>Reply-To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
>To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [llumpires] Ball stuck under fence
>Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 10:53:49 -0400
>
>On 5/1/06 3:14 PM BRUCE TAYLOR wrote:
> >  I agree. This should be part of your plate conference when you tell
> >  them
> >  where there are holes in the fence and other items of interest so
> >  that if it
> >  happens ... and it will ... it has already been discussed.
>
>I have to disagree with you here. There's a whole book full of
>rules--are you going to go over them all at the plate conference so when
>things happen, they've "already been discussed"?
>
>Just apply the rules that are in the book when things happen that
>require their application. It's not your job to provide a clinic at
>every plate conference.
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On 5/1/06 3:14 PM BRUCE TAYLOR wrote:
>  I agree. This should be part of your plate conference when you tell
>  them
>  where there are holes in the fence and other items of interest so
>  that if it
>  happens ... and it will ... it has already been discussed.

I have to disagree with you here. There's a whole book full of
rules--are you going to go over them all at the plate conference so when
things happen, they've "already been discussed"?

Just apply the rules that are in the book when things happen that
require their application. It's not your job to provide a clinic at
every plate conference.

Herb

Congratulations Brian

Hope all your games go just as smooth.  Glad to hear you enjoyed the umpiring.

Now you are ready to get on the gear and go behind the dish!!!!

Tom Turner
D9 WA


On Tuesday, May 02, 2006, at 00:19AM, brian <spike3533@...> wrote:

>Well I had my first game last night, and man i had the jitters. But
>after the first out i had to call they were gone. It really felt good
>to hear Coaches and parents say "blue good game!". The other Ump and
>myself seem as though we worked together for a while. We only had one
>call where i had to pull a runner back to third cause he stoled home
>before the pitcher threw the ball and the batter was setting up. Home
>plate ump and myself had a meeting then pulled him back. Andy in
>williamsport was right, take your time and get the call right and the
>coaches wil respect you.
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>This was fun,
>Brian
>York Pa
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Well I had my first game last night, and man i had the jitters. But
after the first out i had to call they were gone. It really felt good
to hear Coaches and parents say "blue good game!". The other Ump and
myself seem as though we worked together for a while. We only had one
call where i had to pull a runner back to third cause he stoled home
before the pitcher threw the ball and the batter was setting up. Home
plate ump and myself had a meeting then pulled him back. Andy in
williamsport was right, take your time and get the call right and the
coaches wil respect you.

This was fun,
Brian
York Pa

Good answer, Brad.  Think about it - if sending a Little Leaguer to the
plate with a NOCSAE batting helmet on is still "dangerous," or a "safety
issue," then we are ALL criminally liable for reckless endangerment of our
children.  Getting hit by a pitch is not a "safety" concern; it is an "owie"
concern.

And "owie" concerns are not an umpire's concern.

-----Original Message-----
From: llumpires@yahoogroups.com [mailto:llumpires@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brad Lewallen
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:22 PM
To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [llumpires] Wild Pitcher



--- Mike Marasco <mike.marasco@...> wrote:

> The only thing you really can do is talk to the coach and just suggest
> that you pull him for safety reasons and hope the coach will be smart
> enough to listen.
>
> Mike

With respect, I'd suggest you not talk to the manager about this.  The
safety aspect is minimal as there are very few serious injuries due to being
HBP especially at the younger levels.  He should be concerned about giving
up the free bases as much if not more than the batters getting hit.  We
would be offended if a manager tried telling us how to do our job as
umpires; I'd suggest that we not try to tell him how to manage his team.

Cheers,
Brad
TX-D7

--- Mike Marasco <mike.marasco@...> wrote:

> The only thing you really can do is talk to the
> coach and just suggest that
> you pull him for safety reasons and hope the coach
> will be smart enough to
> listen.
>
> Mike

With respect, I'd suggest you not talk to the manager
about this.  The safety aspect is minimal as there are
very few serious injuries due to being HBP especially
at the younger levels.  He should be concerned about
giving up the free bases as much if not more than the
batters getting hit.  We would be offended if a
manager tried telling us how to do our job as umpires;
I'd suggest that we not try to tell him how to manage
his team.

Cheers,
Brad
TX-D7

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You'll hear the arguments "Why should the runner get a base on that,
especially if he wasn't going"

My answer is, "The rule is written probably thinking, F1 didn't do his job
and make a quality pitch, F2 didn't do his job and stop it.  So why penalize
the offense by not allowing them to run."

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fitzharris" <wfitz@...>
To: <llumpires@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:59 PM
Subject: [llumpires] Re: Ball stuck under fence


> Per Rule 7.05(h), it's the opposite of what you suspect: the runners
> are protected, rather than the defense.  Here's the rule:
>
> 7.05 - Each runner including the batter-runner may, without liability
> to be put out, advance -
> (h) one base, if a ball, pitched to the batter, or thrown by the
> pitcher from the position on the pitcher's plate to a base to catch a
> runner goes into a stand or a bench, or over or through a field fence
> or backstop. The ball is dead.
>
>
> --- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Evelo" <eveloc@...> wrote:
>>
>> Little League Majors. Runner on 3rd. Ball gets past catcher on the
>> pitch. The ball gets stuck under the backstop. R3 comes home on past
>> ball. Would I place runner back on 3rd since catcher could not get
>> ball? Is it the same if runner on 2nd?
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Ball left the playing field on a pitch (one from the rubber).  Each
runner gets one base.

Nick Haluschak
Vancouver, WA

--- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Evelo" <eveloc@...> wrote:
>
> Little League Majors. Runner on 3rd. Ball gets past catcher on the
> pitch. The ball gets stuck under the backstop. R3 comes home on past
> ball. Would I place runner back on 3rd since catcher could not get
> ball? Is it the same if runner on 2nd?
>

I agree.  This should be part of your plate conference when you tell them
where there are holes in the fence and other items of interest so that if it
happens ... and it will ... it has already been discussed.


Bruce Taylor
District Umpire-in-Chief (Baseball)
Arizona District 5





>From: "Mike Marasco" <mike.marasco@...>
>Reply-To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
>To: <llumpires@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [llumpires] Ball stuck under fence
>Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:24:40 -0400
>
>I would believe this would be the same as a pitched ball going out of play.
>So, the runners would all be given 1 base from the time of the pitch.
>
>Mike
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Evelo" <eveloc@...>
>To: <llumpires@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:21 PM
>Subject: [llumpires] Ball stuck under fence
>
>
> > Little League Majors. Runner on 3rd. Ball gets past catcher on the
> > pitch. The ball gets stuck under the backstop. R3 comes home on past
> > ball. Would I place runner back on 3rd since catcher could not get
> > ball? Is it the same if runner on 2nd?
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>From: "Angus Scott-Fleming" <heyblue@...>
>Reply-To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
>To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [llumpires] 1.11 and pitchers wearing white
>Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 10:06:44 -0700
>
>On 28 Apr 2006 at 11:41, BRUCE TAYLOR  wrote:
>
> > YES
>
>Is this new this year?
>
> > Bruce Taylor
> > District Umpire-in-Chief (Baseball)
> > Arizona District 5
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Jeff Schoettle" <jeff@...>
> > >Reply-To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [llumpires] 1.11 and pitchers wearing white
> > >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:13:56 -0000
> > >
> > >So the 2006 rules say that;
> > >
> > >1.11 - Baseball
> > >
> > >(a) (3) any part of the pitcher's undershirt or T-shirt exposed to
> > >view shall be
> > >of a solid color. A pitcher shall not wear any item on his/her hands,
> > >wrists or arms which may be distracting to the batter. Note: White
> > >long sleeve shirts are not permitted.
> > >
> > >...so white and grey (short sleeved) undershirts are indeed ok for the
> > >pitcher?
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if the ball is stuck under the fence, it is unplayable, or out of play, and
each runner on base would get 1 base from where they started.

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Subject: Re: [llumpires] Ball stuck under fence


>I would believe this would be the same as a pitched ball going out of play.
> So, the runners would all be given 1 base from the time of the pitch.
>
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Evelo" <eveloc@...>
> To: <llumpires@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:21 PM
> Subject: [llumpires] Ball stuck under fence
>
>
>> Little League Majors. Runner on 3rd. Ball gets past catcher on the
>> pitch. The ball gets stuck under the backstop. R3 comes home on past
>> ball. Would I place runner back on 3rd since catcher could not get
>> ball? Is it the same if runner on 2nd?
>>
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Per Rule 7.05(h), it's the opposite of what you suspect: the runners
are protected, rather than the defense.  Here's the rule:

7.05 - Each runner including the batter-runner may, without liability
to be put out, advance -
(h) one base, if a ball, pitched to the batter, or thrown by the
pitcher from the position on the pitcher's plate to a base to catch a
runner goes into a stand or a bench, or over or through a field fence
or backstop. The ball is dead.


--- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Evelo" <eveloc@...> wrote:
>
> Little League Majors. Runner on 3rd. Ball gets past catcher on the
> pitch. The ball gets stuck under the backstop. R3 comes home on past
> ball. Would I place runner back on 3rd since catcher could not get
> ball? Is it the same if runner on 2nd?
>

No, this has been in the book for some time.

Brian Morningstar <brianmorningstar@...> wrote:  Yes, short sleeves
are ok. The rule states long sleeve, but I was under the impression that 3/4
sleeves were a no no.

Angus Scott-Fleming wrote: On 28 Apr 2006 at 11:41, BRUCE TAYLOR wrote:

> YES

Is this new this year?

> Bruce Taylor
> District Umpire-in-Chief (Baseball)
> Arizona District 5
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Jeff Schoettle"
> >Reply-To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
> >To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [llumpires] 1.11 and pitchers wearing white
> >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:13:56 -0000
> >
> >So the 2006 rules say that;
> >
> >1.11 - Baseball
> >
> >(a) (3) any part of the pitcher's undershirt or T-shirt exposed to
> >view shall be
> >of a solid color. A pitcher shall not wear any item on his/her hands,
> >wrists or arms which may be distracting to the batter. Note: White
> >long sleeve shirts are not permitted.
> >
> >...so white and grey (short sleeved) undershirts are indeed ok for the
> >pitcher?
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Yes, short sleeves are ok. The rule states long sleeve, but I was under the
impression that 3/4 sleeves were a no no.

Angus Scott-Fleming <heyblue@...> wrote:  On 28 Apr 2006 at 11:41, BRUCE
TAYLOR wrote:

> YES

Is this new this year?

> Bruce Taylor
> District Umpire-in-Chief (Baseball)
> Arizona District 5
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Jeff Schoettle"
> >Reply-To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
> >To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [llumpires] 1.11 and pitchers wearing white
> >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:13:56 -0000
> >
> >So the 2006 rules say that;
> >
> >1.11 - Baseball
> >
> >(a) (3) any part of the pitcher's undershirt or T-shirt exposed to
> >view shall be
> >of a solid color. A pitcher shall not wear any item on his/her hands,
> >wrists or arms which may be distracting to the batter. Note: White
> >long sleeve shirts are not permitted.
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1 base awarded to all base runners from the time of pitch.

On Monday, May 01, 2006, at 11:23AM, Chris Evelo <eveloc@...> wrote:

>Little League Majors. Runner on 3rd. Ball gets past catcher on the
>pitch. The ball gets stuck under the backstop. R3 comes home on past
>ball. Would I place runner back on 3rd since catcher could not get
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I would believe this would be the same as a pitched ball going out of play.
So, the runners would all be given 1 base from the time of the pitch.

Mike
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To: <llumpires@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:21 PM
Subject: [llumpires] Ball stuck under fence


> Little League Majors. Runner on 3rd. Ball gets past catcher on the
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Little League Majors. Runner on 3rd. Ball gets past catcher on the
pitch. The ball gets stuck under the backstop. R3 comes home on past
ball. Would I place runner back on 3rd since catcher could not get
ball? Is it the same if runner on 2nd?

On 28 Apr 2006 at 11:41, BRUCE TAYLOR  wrote:

> YES

Is this new this year?

> Bruce Taylor
> District Umpire-in-Chief (Baseball)
> Arizona District 5
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>
>
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>
> >From: "Jeff Schoettle" <jeff@...>
> >Reply-To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
> >To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [llumpires] 1.11 and pitchers wearing white
> >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:13:56 -0000
> >
> >So the 2006 rules say that;
> >
> >1.11 - Baseball
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The only thing you really can do is talk to the coach and just suggest that
you pull him for safety reasons and hope the coach will be smart enough to
listen.

Mike

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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:52 AM
Subject: [llumpires] Wild Pitcher


> Can an umpire remove or ask that a pitcher be removed if he is
> consistently wild? It was reported that a pitcher hit three kids and
> several dive for their lives.
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No and no.

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Subject: [llumpires] Wild Pitcher


> Can an umpire remove or ask that a pitcher be removed if he is
> consistently wild? It was reported that a pitcher hit three kids and
> several dive for their lives.
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Not unless you judge it be intentional. There are some
local rules that use this but they have not recieved a
waiver for this policy.

If you judge a serious safety concern, you are within
your rights to eject a pitcher, however, it would have
to be really bad, such as batters getting hit in the
head or seriously brushed off the plate.  This has got
to be a pretty egerious offense though.

Otherwise, there's not a lot you can do other than
include the information that you feel that there is a
coaching/mechanics issue in your game report to the
League.

Basically, you hope the manager has a clue when
there's nothing but runners walking or advancing on
HBP.

Alex
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Yes.  Any bat that has been modified after manufacture is illegal in
LL.

Nick Haluschak
Vancouver, WA

--- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Telleson" <telleson@...> wrote:
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> Not knowing the LL softball rulebook, is there such a thing as an
> illegally modified bat?
>

No.  A league can't even make a local rule to have this done (I know because my
local league tried and WP denied it).  Unless he is intentionally throwing at
the batters, there is nothing you can do.  Hopefully, the manager will wise up
and change pitchers at some point.

Bruce Taylor
District Umpire-in-Chief (Baseball)
Arizona District 5

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Dale,

Does the rulebook have any language about manufacturor specs?
In know the baseball book doesn't have any such verbage. "Juicing" a
bat is modifying somehow. Freezing, or loading it internally. I just
don't see how that's illeagal on LL.

Kyle

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> all bats must meet LL spec and manufac.spec.
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Can an umpire remove or ask that a pitcher be removed if he is
consistently wild? It was reported that a pitcher hit three kids and
several dive for their lives.

I've heard the "add the penalties up" opinion out of managers several
times.  Usually the "1+1" crowd, right?

I did have another one I never heard before the other night, however.
We had a local inter-league tournament going on - Junior level - and
this manager was flipping out over a substitution his opponent made.  It
was actually a slick move by the other guy - we were playing tournament
rules, and in the bottom of the seventh he'd used a Speedy Gonzales
starter who was on the bench as a special pinch runner to pull within
one, and then strategically re-entered him later in the inning in place
of his slower sub, who was standing on third as the potential winning
run.

Manager first flipped out that the kid was "running" twice in the
inning, which was understandable.  After double checking with me, my
partner at the plate carefully explained to him that this was a legal
re-entry, and was completely different from the SPR rule - this was just
a starter re-entering his original spot in the lineup.  The manager then
protested the game - get this - based on the the claim that it wasn't
legal to make a substitution for a player who was already on base. (!)

Fortunately, our DA, who has the final authority for this local
tournament, was present at the site, and explained to him in words of
one syllable or less that (a) this was perfectly legal and (b) this was
about the stupidest thing he'd ever heard come out of a manager's
mouth...

On the very next pitch, the offense put on the suicide squeeze
(beautifully and perfectly) and Speedy scored the winning run.  Chalk
one up for an intelligent manager who knows the rules and how to
(legally) use them to his advantage.  Wish we had more like him...

Kevin Hunter
Umpire Consultant
Florida District 9
Fort Myers, FL




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Behalf Of DarcyComm
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 5:53 PM
To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [llumpires] Bonus Ball

you gotta love some managers!  One of our guys the other night had maybe
the strangest rule interp from a manager I have ever heard.
Batter with 3-1 count gets hit by pitch.  Manager runs out not to check
on player but to tell the ump that the batter should get 2nd because he
gets an award of a base for ball four and another base for being hit by
pitch.  Intersting.  We like it so much we are thinking of adopting it
into local rules and calling it "Bonus Ball."
Bruce

someone on another list found the following.  Wonder what he googled.  lol

Veteran umpire Katsunori Tomari, who collapsed in the fourth inning of
Friday's game between Yomiuri and Hanshin at Tokyo Dome, was released from
the hospital but has no timetable for a return to the field.

The 14-year CL umpire was taken to a local hospital and admitted after he
fell onto Hanshin catcher Akihiro Yano in the middle of the game.

The cause for his collapse was unknown, but doctors administered a number of
tests, the results of which will determine how long Tomari will be
sidelined.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Lewallen" <JBLewallen@...>
To: <llumpires@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: [llumpires] Japanese Umpire goes down


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> --- Bob Larson <robert.b.larson@...> wrote:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6--mXdAY-E&search=umpire
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>> This doesn't look good :(
>>
>
> No, it doesn't.  Can you please provide the
> interpretation for what the mediaots were saying??  I
> couldn't quite catch it all LOL.
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> Cheers,
> Brad
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6--mXdAY-E&search=umpire
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> This doesn't look good :(
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No, it doesn't.  Can you please provide the
interpretation for what the mediaots were saying??  I
couldn't quite catch it all LOL.

Cheers,
Brad
TX-D7

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