That's not disrespecting authority, it's his privilege within the rules.

Region cannot create interpretations, thus why accept "their" interpretation?
Granted, they may have had the exact same protest from a different tournament,
and got a ruling from WP; that's great, now they're simply passing on a prior
WP interpretation.

Jerry

--- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, rodman0563@... wrote:
>
> Then they should be releived and repaced with someone that respects authoirity
and he/she should never be allowed to manage a team.....simple as that
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Jerry McKissack" <jlmckissack@...>
>
> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:06:04
> To: <llumpires@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [llumpires] Re: Rest for Resumed Game: Any Official Ruling?
>
>
> Understand - it has to follow the chain, but no Manager I know of ever accepts
Regions ruling - why stop there.
>
> Jerry
>
> --- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, "Don Hester" <mapnodh@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry McKissack" <jlmckissack@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Regions can't rule on protests - it has to go to LL HQ, but Manny could
still send the question up the chain in order to avoid a protest.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Check out Green Book page T-10, A (1-5)
> >
> > Manager lodges a protest. Play ceases.
> > On field umpires conference and give consensus ruling.
> > Both managers accept or reject. Accepted, play continues. 1 manager rejects
tournament director gets involved. TD renders ruling.
> > Both managers accept or reject. Accepted, play continues. 1 manager rejects,
call placed to regional HQ. Region renders ruling. Both managers accept or
reject. 1 manager rejects, call placed to WP.
> > WP rules. Final & binding. Play resumes.
> >
> > I had a regular season game suspended then resumed and prior to resumption,
I requested same info from WR. WR said that all pitching records of the
suspended portion of the game carried over to the resumed portion. Any pitcher
burned in the suspended portion may not pitch in the resumed portion of the
game, regardless if any game(s) were played in between the suspended portion and
the resumed portion, in which rest requirements could be met. Pitcher of record
at the time of the suspension may pitch in the resumed portion provided he has
eligibility remaining for the day and week when the game is resumed. WR also
indicated that all substitution records also carry over for purposes of
mandatory play.
> >
> > I think their line would be the same for tournament play.
> >
> > Don
> > WA D-6
> >
> > >
> > > --- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, "Clay Berry" <parkaleo@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If I was the opposing manager I would protest. So the best way to handle
it is to call your region and get a ruling. So you are not preventing a protest
by ruling one way or the other. It is best to get a clarification and not guess.
> > > >
> > > > clay
> > > >
> > > > --- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Wiggins" <ewiggins11@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Manny,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree with Jerry. You understand the spirit and intent of the rule.
If
> > > > > you believe a pitcher is being over used, or a team is trying to gain
> > > > > advantage by loop hole that is one thing. However that does not seem
to be
> > > > > the case. In the absence of official guidance we should come down on
the
> > > > > side of common sense. The rule is there to protect pitchers, not
punish
> > > > > them by making them sit without reasonable cause.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Our job is to prevent protests, not cause them. Go with your DA and
the
> > > > > wishes of the participants. I cannot see a down side if you don't
believe
> > > > > there is any harm to the players and no one is trying to game the
system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Since LL is not responding is seems obvious they do not see this as a
big
> > > > > deal.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > All just my opinion, of course.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >_____
> > > > >
> > > > > From: llumpires@yahoogroups.com [mailto:llumpires@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> > > > > Of Jerry McKissack
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:45 AM
> > > > > To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [llumpires] Re: Rest for Resumed Game: Any Official Ruling?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it counts as a game. (Meets the spirit of the rule.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In llumpires@yahoogrou <mailto:llumpires%40yahoogroups.com>
ps.com,
> > > > > "Manny Aponte" <aponte5412@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I asked this on eteamz, and didn't get anything that I can use to
convince
> > > > > a couple of managers what they face. I also asked the question on the
LL
> > > > > website's "Ask the Tournament Director" feature, but since they
haven't
> > > > > answered a question since June 30th, my confidence in getting a timely
> > > > > answer is waning.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This Tuesday (7/7), we are resuming a Juniors district pool-play
game that
> > > > > was stopped due to weather last week. In the meantime, both teams
played
> > > > > complete games over the weekend where they used pitchers that now
require
> > > > > rest. They want to know if the resumed game this Tuesday is going to
serve
> > > > > as the game-rest requirement for those pitchers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A couple of folks on eteamz claim that they were told by Andy K that
> > > > > resumed games never count as games of rest, no matter how many innings
are
> > > > > played. That's because the first part of the game does count as a game
if it
> > > > > goes one inning, and making the completion of the game another game of
rest
> > > > > basically turns this into two separate games.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, does anybody have anything official to offer? My DA feels that
the
> > > > > resumed game should count, and I disagree. I feel like I should just
tell
> > > > > both managers that it doesn't count, let them protest, and then deal
with it
> > > > > the old-fashioned way (phone calls to LL HQ).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Manny Aponte
> > > > > > VA D9 UIC
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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