--- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry McKissack" <jlmckissack@...> wrote:
>
> Regions can't rule on protests - it has to go to LL HQ, but Manny could still
send the question up the chain in order to avoid a protest.
>
> Jerry

Jerry

Check out Green Book page T-10, A (1-5)

Manager lodges a protest. Play ceases.
On field umpires conference and give consensus ruling.
Both managers accept or reject. Accepted, play continues. 1 manager rejects
tournament director gets involved. TD renders ruling.
Both managers accept or reject. Accepted, play continues. 1 manager rejects,
call placed to regional HQ. Region renders ruling. Both managers accept or
reject. 1 manager rejects, call placed to WP.
WP rules. Final & binding. Play resumes.

I had a regular season game suspended then resumed and prior to resumption, I
requested same info from WR. WR said that all pitching records of the suspended
portion of the game carried over to the resumed portion. Any pitcher burned in
the suspended portion may not pitch in the resumed portion of the game,
regardless if any game(s) were played in between the suspended portion and the
resumed portion, in which rest requirements could be met. Pitcher of record at
the time of the suspension may pitch in the resumed portion provided he has
eligibility remaining for the day and week when the game is resumed. WR also
indicated that all substitution records also carry over for purposes of
mandatory play.

I think their line would be the same for tournament play.

Don
WA D-6

>
> --- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, "Clay Berry" <parkaleo@> wrote:
> >
> > If I was the opposing manager I would protest. So the best way to handle it
is to call your region and get a ruling. So you are not preventing a protest by
ruling one way or the other. It is best to get a clarification and not guess.
> >
> > clay
> >
> > --- In llumpires@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Wiggins" <ewiggins11@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Manny,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree with Jerry. You understand the spirit and intent of the rule. If
> > > you believe a pitcher is being over used, or a team is trying to gain
> > > advantage by loop hole that is one thing. However that does not seem to
be
> > > the case. In the absence of official guidance we should come down on the
> > > side of common sense. The rule is there to protect pitchers, not punish
> > > them by making them sit without reasonable cause.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Our job is to prevent protests, not cause them. Go with your DA and the
> > > wishes of the participants. I cannot see a down side if you don't believe
> > > there is any harm to the players and no one is trying to game the system.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Since LL is not responding is seems obvious they do not see this as a big
> > > deal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All just my opinion, of course.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: llumpires@yahoogroups.com [mailto:llumpires@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> > > Of Jerry McKissack
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:45 AM
> > > To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [llumpires] Re: Rest for Resumed Game: Any Official Ruling?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think it counts as a game. (Meets the spirit of the rule.)
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > --- In llumpires@yahoogrou <mailto:llumpires%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,
> > > "Manny Aponte" <aponte5412@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I asked this on eteamz, and didn't get anything that I can use to
convince
> > > a couple of managers what they face. I also asked the question on the LL
> > > website's "Ask the Tournament Director" feature, but since they haven't
> > > answered a question since June 30th, my confidence in getting a timely
> > > answer is waning.
> > > >
> > > > This Tuesday (7/7), we are resuming a Juniors district pool-play game
that
> > > was stopped due to weather last week. In the meantime, both teams played
> > > complete games over the weekend where they used pitchers that now require
> > > rest. They want to know if the resumed game this Tuesday is going to serve
> > > as the game-rest requirement for those pitchers.
> > > >
> > > > A couple of folks on eteamz claim that they were told by Andy K that
> > > resumed games never count as games of rest, no matter how many innings are
> > > played. That's because the first part of the game does count as a game if
it
> > > goes one inning, and making the completion of the game another game of
rest
> > > basically turns this into two separate games.
> > > >
> > > > So, does anybody have anything official to offer? My DA feels that the
> > > resumed game should count, and I disagree. I feel like I should just tell
> > > both managers that it doesn't count, let them protest, and then deal with
it
> > > the old-fashioned way (phone calls to LL HQ).
> > > >
> > > > Manny Aponte
> > > > VA D9 UIC
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
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