The situation is BOTH teams want it counted and will protest if it's NOT.



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From: llumpires@yahoogroups.com [mailto:llumpires@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Clay Berry
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 2:30 PM
To: llumpires@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [llumpires] Re: Rest for Resumed Game: Any Official Ruling?








If I was the opposing manager I would protest. So the best way to handle it
is to call your region and get a ruling. So you are not preventing a protest
by ruling one way or the other. It is best to get a clarification and not
guess.

clay

--- In llumpires@yahoogrou <mailto:llumpires%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "Ed
Wiggins" <ewiggins11@...> wrote:
>
> Manny,
>
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>
> I agree with Jerry. You understand the spirit and intent of the rule. If
> you believe a pitcher is being over used, or a team is trying to gain
> advantage by loop hole that is one thing. However that does not seem to be
> the case. In the absence of official guidance we should come down on the
> side of common sense. The rule is there to protect pitchers, not punish
> them by making them sit without reasonable cause.
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>
> Our job is to prevent protests, not cause them. Go with your DA and the
> wishes of the participants. I cannot see a down side if you don't believe
> there is any harm to the players and no one is trying to game the system.
>
>
>
> Since LL is not responding is seems obvious they do not see this as a big
> deal.
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>
> All just my opinion, of course.
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>
>
> _____
>
> From: llumpires@yahoogrou <mailto:llumpires%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
[mailto:llumpires@yahoogrou <mailto:llumpires%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com] On
Behalf
> Of Jerry McKissack
> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:45 AM
> To: llumpires@yahoogrou <mailto:llumpires%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
> Subject: [llumpires] Re: Rest for Resumed Game: Any Official Ruling?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think it counts as a game. (Meets the spirit of the rule.)
>
> Jerry
>
> --- In llumpires@yahoogrou <mailto:llumpires%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,
> "Manny Aponte" <aponte5412@> wrote:
> >
> > I asked this on eteamz, and didn't get anything that I can use to
convince
> a couple of managers what they face. I also asked the question on the LL
> website's "Ask the Tournament Director" feature, but since they haven't
> answered a question since June 30th, my confidence in getting a timely
> answer is waning.
> >
> > This Tuesday (7/7), we are resuming a Juniors district pool-play game
that
> was stopped due to weather last week. In the meantime, both teams played
> complete games over the weekend where they used pitchers that now require
> rest. They want to know if the resumed game this Tuesday is going to serve
> as the game-rest requirement for those pitchers.
> >
> > A couple of folks on eteamz claim that they were told by Andy K that
> resumed games never count as games of rest, no matter how many innings are
> played. That's because the first part of the game does count as a game if
it
> goes one inning, and making the completion of the game another game of
rest
> basically turns this into two separate games.
> >
> > So, does anybody have anything official to offer? My DA feels that the
> resumed game should count, and I disagree. I feel like I should just tell
> both managers that it doesn't count, let them protest, and then deal with
it
> the old-fashioned way (phone calls to LL HQ).
> >
> > Manny Aponte
> > VA D9 UIC
> >
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