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#729 From: nycubans1947@...
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 11:38 am
Subject: Jules Tygiel 		nycubans1947
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Alerting all about the passing of Jules Tygiel. He was an outstanding scholar, an exemplar as a historian, a standard bearer for those of us who write on baseball history, and someone who was very giving of his time to younger scholars like myself. Jules read my book manuscript several times and gave a thorough and thoughtful critique. Whatever success my book “Playing America’s Game” has enjoyed is a credit to his gracefulness and wonderful spirit. I will not forget the tour of McCovey Cove and San Francisco he gave me during All-Star Game week. He will be missed.
 
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#728 From: "nycubans1947" <nycubans1947@...>
Date: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:02 am
Subject: Re: Rafael de la Rua, a Cuban playing in the National Association in 1868 		nycubans1947
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Good to hear others have found further information on Rua. I had
located some material on him while conducting research on Bellan at
Fordham a few years back. (I believe he is mentioned/buried in a
footnote in a paper I wrote somewhere). If memory serves correct there
is a photograph of Rua in the Special Collections at Fordham as most
students had a portait taken of themselves that was given to the school
administrators. I will have to dig into my files when I get back to
Illinois.

best, Adrian

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#727 From: Jorge Coln Delgado <jcolondelgado@...>
Date: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: Rafael de la Rua, a Cuban playing in the National Association in 1868 		jcolondelgado
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Excellent Cesar.  Congratulations!

--- El lun 23-jun-08, Csar Gonzlez <gutogonz@...> escribi:
De: Csar Gonzlez <gutogonz@...>
Asunto: [latinobaseball] Rafael de la Rua, a Cuban playing in the National Association in 1868
A: latinobaseball@yahoogroups.com, "Cesar Lopez" <clopez_miami@...>, "roberto.echevarria@..." <roberto.echevarria@...>, "Jorge S. Figueredo" <citrop@...>
Fecha: lunes, 23 junio, 2008, 8:33 pm

Hermanos Latinos:

I write to you to inform you about a very important historical discovery on Latin American early history.

When Esteban Bellan left St. John's College in 1868 to pursue a career in baseball with the Unions of Morrisania he was not the only Cuban to do so.

Rafael de la Ra, a native from Matanzas, Cuba, played 12 games for the Unions of Lansingburgh of the National Association in that same year of 1868. He was a pitcher, with a good screwball but with some control crisis.
 
De la Ra joins Bellan as the first latin player in an organized and highly competitive league. The National Association would not be considered a Major League until it became professional in 1871, and still that is debatable. But what is clear, is that they are the first latin ballplayers to compete at the highest level of baseball in the United States.

This was a discovery made by the great investigators Peter Morris and John Thorn, and I have been helping in the last couple of days trying to figure out some aspects of his biography.

This is what we have at the moment:

Rafael Julin de la Ra was born on January 28th, 1848 in Matanzas, Cuba

In 1860, he appears with an age of 12 in an official United States census living in Newton, Massachussets. He was studying in a small school directed by  R.B. Blaisdell in Newton. There is also a Finomen Rua in that census, 18 years old, apparently Rafael's brother.

In June 1864, he is one of the passengers of the steamship Havana that arrives to New York from La Habana in a note published by The New York Times. Rafael was about to start his preparatory education at St. John's College (Fordham) on September 1864 and he stays there until July 1867. He studied there at the same time as Bellan. In the official student catalogues of St. John's College he is listed as Julian R. Rua from Matanzas, Cuba.

In the academic year of 1868-69. he is listed studying at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, New York, by the name of Rafael J. Rua, from Matanzas Cuba. He stays there only for one year and he does not graduate.

It is in that same town of Troy where the team Unions of Lansingburgh, from the National Association, had its hometown. Rua plays for them in 12 games mostly as a pitcher. At that time, the National Association was still officially, an amateur competition. There is in existence an image of the 1868 Unions of Lansingburgh, that you can see in the book Smoke by Peter Bjarkman, where Bellan is mistakingly identified (Bellan didnt play for Lansingburgh in 1868, he did in 1869). However, we are working to try to identify De la Rua in that same image.

Official documents were found for Rafael de la Ra in which he applies for an american citizenship on September 23rd 1874, in which he declares himself a merchant. When the naturalization was granted he applies for his first american passport, which he fills as Rafael de la Ra, living on 15th and 32nd streets in New York, and having born on January 28th, 1848 in Matanzas, Cuba. His height, according to these documents, was 5 ft. 9 in.

According to encyclopedias with early Cuban League listings by Jorge Figueredo and Severo Nieto, Rafael de la Ra never played in the Cuban League.

Without a doubt, a very important piece in latin american baseball history.

Thank you,
Csar Gonzlez Gmez





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#726 From: "Csar Gonzlez" <gutogonz@...>
Date: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:33 pm
Subject: Rafael de la Rua, a Cuban playing in the National Association in 1868 		gutogonz
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Hermanos Latinos:

I write to you to inform you about a very important historical discovery on Latin American early history.

When Esteban Bellan left St. John's College in 1868 to pursue a career in baseball with the Unions of Morrisania he was not the only Cuban to do so.

Rafael de la Ra, a native from Matanzas, Cuba, played 12 games for the Unions of Lansingburgh of the National Association in that same year of 1868. He was a pitcher, with a good screwball but with some control crisis.
 
De la Ra joins Bellan as the first latin player in an organized and highly competitive league. The National Association would not be considered a Major League until it became professional in 1871, and still that is debatable. But what is clear, is that they are the first latin ballplayers to compete at the highest level of baseball in the United States.

This was a discovery made by the great investigators Peter Morris and John Thorn, and I have been helping in the last couple of days trying to figure out some aspects of his biography.

This is what we have at the moment:

Rafael Julin de la Ra was born on January 28th, 1848 in Matanzas, Cuba

In 1860, he appears with an age of 12 in an official United States census living in Newton, Massachussets. He was studying in a small school directed by  R.B. Blaisdell in Newton. There is also a Finomen Rua in that census, 18 years old, apparently Rafael's brother.

In June 1864, he is one of the passengers of the steamship Havana that arrives to New York from La Habana in a note published by The New York Times. Rafael was about to start his preparatory education at St. John's College (Fordham) on September 1864 and he stays there until July 1867. He studied there at the same time as Bellan. In the official student catalogues of St. John's College he is listed as Julian R. Rua from Matanzas, Cuba.

In the academic year of 1868-69. he is listed studying at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, New York, by the name of Rafael J. Rua, from Matanzas Cuba. He stays there only for one year and he does not graduate.

It is in that same town of Troy where the team Unions of Lansingburgh, from the National Association, had its hometown. Rua plays for them in 12 games mostly as a pitcher. At that time, the National Association was still officially, an amateur competition. There is in existence an image of the 1868 Unions of Lansingburgh, that you can see in the book Smoke by Peter Bjarkman, where Bellan is mistakingly identified (Bellan didnt play for Lansingburgh in 1868, he did in 1869). However, we are working to try to identify De la Rua in that same image.

Official documents were found for Rafael de la Ra in which he applies for an american citizenship on September 23rd 1874, in which he declares himself a merchant. When the naturalization was granted he applies for his first american passport, which he fills as Rafael de la Ra, living on 15th and 32nd streets in New York, and having born on January 28th, 1848 in Matanzas, Cuba. His height, according to these documents, was 5 ft. 9 in.

According to encyclopedias with early Cuban League listings by Jorge Figueredo and Severo Nieto, Rafael de la Ra never played in the Cuban League.

Without a doubt, a very important piece in latin american baseball history.

Thank you,
Csar Gonzlez Gmez




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#725 From: Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...>
Date: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:14 pm
Subject: Native Americans in Baseball 		salazar8017
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FYI


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/sports/baseball/08cheer.html?ref=baseball


The American Indians of America’s Pastime

By VINCENT M. MALLOZZI, New York Times
Published: June 8, 2008



Anthony

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#724 From: Leonte Landino <llandino@...>
Date: Mon Jun 9, 2008 7:05 am
Subject: RE: Election News 		leontelandino23
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Muchas felicidades Anthony...bien merecido!


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> To: latinobaseball@yahoogroups.com
> From: menendeztony@...
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:45:32 +0000
> Subject: RE: [latinobaseball] Election News
>
>
> Congrats!!!!
>
> ________________________________
> To: latinobaseball@yahoogroups.com
> From: salazar8017@...
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:41:11 -0700
> Subject: [latinobaseball] Election News
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> I wanted to you know that I have been elected to the Board of Directors (the
first Latino, I think!). I appreciate your support. Thanks for helping me do
something meaningful for a great organization! See you soon!
>
> mil gracias,
> Anthony
>
> SABR Members Return Two to Board; Salazar Narrowly Elected to Director Post
> http://www.sabr.org/sabr.cfm?a=cms,c,2602,40
>
>
>
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#723 From: Jorge Coln Delgado <jcolondelgado@...>
Date: Thu Jun 5, 2008 4:56 am
Subject: RE: Election News 		jcolondelgado
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Congratulations Anthony!

 

Jorge

--- El mi 4-jun-08, Tony Menendez <menendeztony@...> escribi:

De: Tony Menendez <menendeztony@...>
Asunto: RE: [latinobaseball] Election News
A: latinobaseball@yahoogroups.com
Fecha: mircoles, 4 junio, 2008, 7:45 pm

Congrats!!!!

To: latinobaseball@ yahoogroups. com
From: salazar8017@ yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:41:11 -0700
Subject: [latinobaseball] Election News

Good afternoon,

I wanted to you know that I have been elected to the Board of Directors (the first Latino, I think!). I appreciate your support. Thanks for helping me do something meaningful for a great organization! See you soon!

mil gracias,
Anthony

SABR Members Return Two to Board; Salazar Narrowly Elected to Director Post
http://www.sabr. org/sabr. cfm?a=cms, c,2602,40



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#722 From: Tony Menendez <menendeztony@...>
Date: Wed Jun 4, 2008 10:45 pm
Subject: RE: Election News 		menendeztony@...
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Congrats!!!!

To: latinobaseball@yahoogroups.com
From: salazar8017@...
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:41:11 -0700
Subject: [latinobaseball] Election News

Good afternoon,

I wanted to you know that I have been elected to the Board of Directors (the first Latino, I think!). I appreciate your support. Thanks for helping me do something meaningful for a great organization! See you soon!

mil gracias,
Anthony

SABR Members Return Two to Board; Salazar Narrowly Elected to Director Post
http://www.sabr.org/sabr.cfm?a=cms,c,2602,40



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#721 From: Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...>
Date: Wed Jun 4, 2008 10:41 pm
Subject: Election News 		salazar8017
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Good afternoon,

I wanted to you know that I have been elected to the Board of Directors (the
first Latino, I think!).  I appreciate your support.  Thanks for helping me do
something meaningful for a great organization!  See you soon!

mil gracias,
Anthony


SABR Members Return Two to Board; Salazar Narrowly Elected to Director Post
http://www.sabr.org/sabr.cfm?a=cms,c,2602,40

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#720 From: Tony Menendez <menendeztony@...>
Date: Sat May 31, 2008 11:22 pm
Subject: RE: Mariners to celebrate Latino heritage 		menendeztony@...
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BRAVO!!! TO THE MARINEROS DE SEATTLE....NEXT RETIRE EDGAR MARTINEZ NUMBER 11........
On Marineros Day....Seattle 5 Detroit 0
 
Tony Menendez
http://www.baseballlatino.net/


 
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From: salazar8017@...
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:52:45 -0700
Subject: [latinobaseball] Mariners to celebrate Latino heritage



http://tinyurl.com/5cba4q

"Marineros" jerseys part of Mariners' salute to Latin American players
By Jos Miguel Romero

Seattle Times staff reporter

The Mariners have celebrated Latinos in baseball annually in recent years. In 2008, they will do so as Los Marineros.

Players will don the same white home uniforms Saturday afternoon against the Detroit Tigers at Safeco Field, with one distinguishable difference the front of their jerseys will say "Marineros," the Spanish translation of the team name

ALSO:

http://tinyurl.com/69vjs7

05/28/2008 2:33 PM ET
Seattle Mariners & Safeco pay tribute to contributions of Latin American baseball players
Saturday, May 31 at Safeco Field is Salute to Latin American Bisbol Day

The Seattle Mariners and Safeco pay tribute to the contributions Latin American players have made to the game of baseball on Saturday, May 31, when the Mariners take on the Detroit Tigers. Game time is 12:55pm.



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#719 From: Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...>
Date: Fri May 30, 2008 6:52 pm
Subject: Mariners to celebrate Latino heritage 		salazar8017
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http://tinyurl.com/5cba4q

"Marineros" jerseys part of Mariners' salute to Latin American players
By José Miguel Romero

Seattle Times staff reporter


The Mariners have celebrated Latinos in baseball annually in recent years. In
2008, they will do so as Los Marineros.

Players will don the same white home uniforms Saturday afternoon against the
Detroit Tigers at Safeco Field, with one distinguishable difference — the
front of their jerseys will say "Marineros," the Spanish translation of the team
name


ALSO:

http://tinyurl.com/69vjs7

05/28/2008 2:33 PM ET
Seattle Mariners & Safeco pay tribute to contributions of Latin American
baseball players
Saturday, May 31 at Safeco Field is Salute to Latin American Béisbol Day

The Seattle Mariners and Safeco pay tribute to the contributions Latin American
players have made to the game of baseball on Saturday, May 31, when the Mariners
take on the Detroit Tigers. Game time is 12:55pm.

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#718 From: Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...>
Date: Mon May 19, 2008 7:59 pm
Subject: Fwd: [Business of Baseball] Fired Sox scouting director was on fast track -- ChicagoSports.com 		salazar8017
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Latin American scouting director fired in skimming
probe -- thanks for Greg Spira for the post.

Anthony

--- Greg Spira <gregspira@...> wrote:

> To: businessofbaseball@yahoogroups.com
> From: Greg Spira <gregspira@...>
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:45:34 -0400
> Subject: [Business of Baseball] Fired Sox scouting
> director was on fast track -- ChicagoSports.com
>
>
>   Fired Sox scouting director was on fast track
>
>
>     Wilder viewed as future GM until skimming probe
>
> By Mark Gonzales and Phil Rogers |Tribune reporters
>     12:15 AM CDT, May 18, 2008
>
>
> SAN FRANCISCO - After playing for highly successful
> college coach Augie
> Garrido at Cal State Fullerton during the Titans'
> ascent to national
> prominence in the early 1980s and spending five
> formative years in the
> Atlanta organization during the Braves' climb to
> dominance in the early
> 1990s, David Wilder appeared destined for a
> prominent executive role in
> Major League Baseball.
>
> But his career path has been sidetracked
> dramatically. The White Sox
> fired Wilder on Friday, a move likely to have
> repercussions in an
> organization that takes great pride in loyalty and
> commitment to its
> front-office staff members and scouts.
>
> That Wilder and two scouts were terminated amid an
> ongoing federal
> investigation of scouting and signing procedures in
> Latin America speaks
> loudly about the severity of the findings that
> revealed "violations of
> club policy and standards," according to the White
> Sox statement on the
> matter.
>
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-080517-white\
-sox-fire-wilder-scouting-director,1,7373042.story
>
>

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#717 From: Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...>
Date: Tue May 13, 2008 5:57 pm
Subject: Research request 		salazar8017
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Good morning,

Bill Nowlin is heading up a book project dealing with
the 1959 Chicago White Sox.  He's looking for a writer
to put together a BioProject biography on Rudy Arias.

Bill indicates that Arias is still living, so there's
a chance of a possibility for an interesting
interview, too.  Additionally, the biographer would
most likely see their work in print this coming year.

To get started, here's a quick link to his numbers:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/a/ariasru01.shtml

Please contact Bill at bnowlin@... if you are
interested.  Your assistance would be great
appreciated.


mil gracias!
Anthony

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#716 From: Alberto Rondon <titorondon2002@...>
Date: Thu May 8, 2008 2:30 am
Subject: Research request 		titorondon2002
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To Adam Ulrey:

Actually, this pertains to life before Organized
Baseball for Cuellar. I hope you will find it useful.
Written by Guillermo Segundo Uriarte "El Kaiser" in
"Revista de la Liga Profesional de Beisbol de
Nicaragua", a booklet that came out in December of
1956, after the first pro season in Nicaragua.

"Miguel Angel Cuellar Santana.- Victimized by surgery
that caused his leaving the team (Ed. note: 5
Estrellas), which in spite of its powerful offense
showed that his lefty arm was needed. In a short time
he has shown that he has started a splendid
professional career. He is weak with runners on,
specially at third. His record was 10-3 and 2.95. He
started playing ball in 1954 with the team "Regimiento
No. 3", and closed out his first season with a no hit
no run game. He belongs to the Sugar Kings reserves.
The announcement that he was coming (Ed. note: to
Nicaragua) assured him of many victories. He was born
in Calle Union, province of Santa Clara, Cuba, on May
5, 1936; he is 5-10, 158."

Note the archaic language, terribly hard to translate
(presumably, Uriarte interviewed Cuellar)!

Cuellar came back to Nicaragua in 1962-1963 to pitch
for Boer, and with an 8-2, 1.92 record helped the team
become champion by winning both rounds of the
competition. The financial loss caused by the absence
of the Final Series made the league adopt a point
system for the following years.

Note that when Cuellar made the Cuban Sugar Kings team
for the 1957 season he took a year off his date of
birth; I am not clear on which day (5 or 8) he was
born. I also know that one day he tried to pitch with
a blister on one finger. They tried to hide it with
tape but it was too obvious so somebody else
pitched... Tough, we wanted to see him.

Hope it helps,
Tito


      
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#715 From: Alberto Rondon <titorondon2002@...>
Date: Thu May 8, 2008 1:57 am
Subject: Astros TV in Spanish 		titorondon2002
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Houston Chronicle

Astros broadcaster gets fresh start at 78

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/5759885.html


      
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#714 From: Tony Menendez <menendeztony@...>
Date: Wed May 7, 2008 5:52 pm
Subject: RE: Research request 		menendeztony@...
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My advise if he can contact someone in Miami, Florida (his residence), probably the best contact will be baseball beat writer Jorge Ebro from El Nuevo Herald (The Miami Herald in Spanish) will have information how to contact him.
 
I only can add he is a great personality and loves to talk about baseball, he worked last spring with the Baltimore Orioles as pitcher instructor and he plays in the off-season in a lot of celebrity golf tournaments here in Miami.
 
Other note, after his big league years for several seasons he worked as a pitcher coach in the Puerto Rico Winter League.
 
Unfortunately I do not have neither a phone numbe or e-mail for him.
 
Best Luck!


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From: salazar8017@...
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:37:06 -0700
Subject: [latinobaseball] Research request

Good morning,

Fellow SABR member Adam Ulrey is writing a biography
on Mike Cuellar for team books on the 1964 Cardinals
and the 1970 Orioles.

He is looking for some information from the Latino
community that one would not find in a book or the
Sporting News. It may pertain to his life after
baseball, his family and any other info one could
find. If anyone knows a fellow Latino resource he
could reach out to for an interview, please contact
him. Thanks!

Contact Adam Ulrey at ajulrey@yahoo.com

mil gracias,
Anthony

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#713 From: Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...>
Date: Wed May 7, 2008 5:37 pm
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Good morning,

Fellow SABR member Adam Ulrey is writing a biography
on Mike Cuellar for team books on the 1964 Cardinals
and the 1970 Orioles.

He is looking for some information from the Latino
community that one would not find in a book or the
Sporting News. It may pertain to his life after
baseball, his family and any other info one could
find.  If anyone knows a fellow Latino resource he
could reach out to for an interview, please contact
him.  Thanks!

Contact Adam Ulrey at ajulrey@...

mil gracias,
Anthony





      
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#712 From: Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...>
Date: Wed May 7, 2008 3:17 pm
Subject: Mariners doing well in Latin America 		salazar8017
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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/362054_mfarm07.html



M's Farm Report: Pitcher Ramirez rounding into quality
prospect
By JASON A. CHURCHILL
SPECIAL TO THE P-I

With Yuniesky Betancourt of Cuba and Jose Lopez and
Felix Hernandez of Venezuela already entrenched with
the Mariners, director of international scouting Bob
Engle and his staff are continuing to scour Latin
America for top-shelf talent.

Among the latest finds is right-handed starting
pitcher Juan Ramirez, a native of Nicaragua. Ramirez
logged 75 1/3 innings at short-season Class A Everett
last summer, stamping himself as one of the
organization's top prospects.



      
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#711 From: "Rod Nelson" <rodericnelson@...>
Date: Mon May 5, 2008 2:20 pm
Subject: Education Fund for Latin Players Quietly Changes Lives 		rockymtnsabr
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An interesting story by Alan Schwarz on Dan Odermann, who has helped finance the education of several Caribbean ball players.

 
Thanks to Brian Borawski for sharing this link.
 
 
Rod Nelson
 
 

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#710 From: Leonte Landino <llandino@...>
Date: Fri May 2, 2008 6:50 am
Subject: RE: Rentera and Cabrera Feud 		leontelandino23
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Friends,

It is a real shame how a reporter can come up with some many words with so much
misinformation.  This is a very inaccurate article which surrounds the
differences between both bigleaguers, which is a very personal matter that just
belong to both of them.

I think this witer broke some of the unwriten "codes" by publishing and make
bigger what is going on between Renteria and Cabrera in a very irresponsible
way.

I personally visited the Colombian league last season and I was very surprised
about what I saw: a developing league witha lot of potential and lots of
enthusiams from each and every person involved.  Their goal is to reach the
Caribbean Series competition and a World Baseball Classic.  The region where
they play is a safe and touristic place (Cartagena and Barranquilla) and has
nothing to do with the Colombian guerrillas, that Arangure made reference, and
it is a very safe place even compared to some other major cities in Latin
America.  The Colombian League has made clear their frustration with this
reporter because they showed him a very positive side of Colombia and the result
was a very deep tergiversation of the story.

I encourage you to get more information and even to visit Colombia and their
winter baseball for you to see their advances and honest baseball work.  The
problems of Cabrera and Renteria are very personal and should not become mixed
with the work of the people who make baseball happen there.

Leonte Landino



> To: latinobaseball@yahoogroups.com
> From: salazar8017@...
> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:39:08 -0700
> Subject: [latinobaseball] Rentera and Cabrera Feud
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> http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3356524
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> It's a feud between Columbians Edgar Rentera and
> Orlando Cabrera.
>
> NOW IT'S PERSONAL
> The two best baseball players ever from Colombia,
> Edgar Renteria and Orlando Cabrera, are engaged in a
> bitter feud and trading verbal attacks. It's going to
> be a long, hot summer in the AL Central.
>
> by Jorge Arangure Jr., ESPN the Magazine
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#709 From: Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...>
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Thanks to Tito for passing this on!


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> Subject: Astros to televise 15 games in Spanish
> To: Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...>
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http://astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080429&content_id=2609131&vkey=news\
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> PHOENIX -- For the first time in club history, the
> Astros will televise several Astros games in Spanish
> in 2008, in an effort to appeal to the growing and
> established Hispanic markets in Houston and South
> Texas.
> FSN Houston will televise 15 games in Spanish this
> year. The first are scheduled for May 7-8 against
> the
> Washington Nationals, with four more slated to run
> in
> May(...)
> Veteran announcer Rene Cardenas, who pioneered
> Astros
> Spanish-language radio broadcasts when the team
> debuted in 1962 and is considered the dean of Major
> League Baseball Spanish announcers, will team with
> Raul Saenz to call the games. Spanish graphics will
> supplement the broadcasts.
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#708 From: Tony Menendez <menendeztony@...>
Date: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:09 pm
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Fellow baseball pals is time to VOTE!.....All-Star Game 2008 voting.....
 
Vote for your favorite Latino Star Today......
 
http://www.baseballlatino.net/id470.htm
 
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All-Star Game, July 15, 2008, Yankee Stadium, New York

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#707 From: Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...>
Date: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:39 pm
Subject: Rentera and Cabrera Feud 		salazar8017
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It's a feud between Columbians Edgar Rentera and
Orlando Cabrera.


NOW IT'S PERSONAL
The two best baseball players ever from Colombia,
Edgar Renteria and Orlando Cabrera, are engaged in a
bitter feud and trading verbal attacks. It's going to
be a long, hot summer in the AL Central.

by Jorge Arangure Jr., ESPN the Magazine


      
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#706 From: Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:04 pm
Subject: Clemente documentary to air tonight: 4/21 		salazar8017
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Dear Committee Members:

Please tune into your local PBS station tonight for
the AMERICAN EXPERIENCE documentary on Roberto
Clemente.

Check the website for listings in your local area  --
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/clemente/


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#705 From: "Ivan Medina" <iamm2000@...>
Date: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:03 pm
Subject: Re: Tejada lied about age 		garrapatas2000
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Esta es una prctica, que aunque se ha limitado en los ltimos aos, hace 10 y ms era comn. El beneficio era para los buscadores de talento, que firmaban a los jugadores disminuyendo su edad, porque tenian bonos adicionales de acuerdo a su ascenso en las ligas menores. Era comn ver a muchos jugadores latinos de carrera corta, firmaban en una temporada y en dos mximo llegaban a AAA y Grandes Ligas, pero su longevidad era corta, porque llegaban a firmar con mas de 20 aos de edad, aunque en sus fichas aparecin con 16 o 17 aos de edad.
 
Estamos revisando algunos datos de SABR Minor Encyclopedia, y actualizaremos esta informacin de algunos jugadores.
 
This is a practice, that although has limited years in the last years (since dominican players they were discovered), does 10 and more common era. The benefit was for scouts, that signed to the players diminishing their age, because has additional bonus according to their ascent in the minor leagues . It was common to see many Latin players of short career, they signed in one season and in two maximum arrived at AAA or Major Leagues, but its longevity was short, because they got to sign with but of 20 years of age, but they are register appear like of 16 or 17.
 
In our revision of SABR Minor Encyclopedia, we updated some of those data.
 
Ivan Medina
 
 
 
 

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#704 From: Tony Menendez <menendeztony@...>
Date: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:31 pm
Subject: RE: Tejada lied about age 		menendeztony@...
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Top of my mind check the bio of P Santiago Casilla (Oakland A's)......
 
Also you can see the enclosed article published by then Baseball Weekly.....
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/bbw/columnist/winston/2004-05-27-minors_x.htm


To: latinobaseball@yahoogroups.com
From: salazar8017@...
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:24:46 -0700
Subject: RE: [latinobaseball] Tejada lied about age

Very true. Adrian Beltre faced similiar questions.
How many others?

Anthony

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> We can create a good discussion about this news
> about Tejada....but was due respect this is not new
> news among Dominican stars......remember that
> nowadays Dominican players (and probably that will
> happen too with Venezuelan players in the future) is
> that they have to come forward with real papers and
> real facts due to US Homeland Security issues.....
>
>
> To: latinobaseball@yahoogroups.comFrom:
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> -0700Subject: [latinobaseball] Tejada lied about age
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> http://tinyurl.com/562937Tejada lied about
> agePHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Houston Astros shortstop
> MiguelTejada has told the team he's actually 33, two
> yearsolder than he's listed in the club's media
> guide andother baseball records.Saying he wanted to
> rid himself of a burden, Tejadaapproached general
> manager Ed Wade and asked tocorrect misinformation
> he gave the Oakland Athleticswhen he signed in
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#703 From: "Rod Nelson" <rodericnelson@...>
Date: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:29 pm
Subject: Re: Tejada lied about age 		rockymtnsabr
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Historically, hundreds if not thousands..
This is something that all subscribers to the SABR Biographical
Committee newsletter well know.

Rod Nelson

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> Very true.  Adrian Beltre faced similiar questions.
> How many others?
>
> Anthony

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Very true.  Adrian Beltre faced similiar questions.
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> We can create a good discussion about this news
> about Tejada....but was due respect this is not new
> news among Dominican stars......remember that
> nowadays Dominican players (and probably that will
> happen too with Venezuelan players in the future) is
> that they have to come forward with real papers and
> real facts due to US Homeland Security issues.....
>
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> To: latinobaseball@...:
> salazar8017@...: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:02:27
> -0700Subject: [latinobaseball] Tejada lied about age
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> http://tinyurl.com/562937Tejada lied about
> agePHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Houston Astros shortstop
> MiguelTejada has told the team he's actually 33, two
> yearsolder than he's listed in the club's media
> guide andother baseball records.Saying he wanted to
> rid himself of a burden, Tejadaapproached general
> manager Ed Wade and asked tocorrect misinformation
> he gave the Oakland Athleticswhen he signed in
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#701 From: Tony Menendez <menendeztony@...>
Date: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:16 pm
Subject: RE: Ivan Rodriguez vs. Clemente.... 		menendeztony@...
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Jossie Alvarado's article was also published in BaseballLatino.net......
 
Enclosed the link......
 
http://www.baseballlatino.net/id438.htm


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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:06:34 +0000
Subject: RE: [latinobaseball] Ivan Rodriguez vs. Clemente....


Friends,

This week fellow SABR member Jossie Alvarado has published a very interesting article about the Clemente-Rodriguez-Alomar controversy. The article is posted on El Juego Perfecto

www.eljuegoperfecto.com

Saludos,

Leo Landino

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> Gracias.
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#700 From: Tony Menendez <menendeztony@...>
Date: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:12 pm
Subject: RE: Tejada lied about age 		menendeztony@...
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We can create a good discussion about this news about Tejada....but was due respect this is not new news among Dominican stars......remember that nowadays Dominican players (and probably that will happen too with Venezuelan players in the future) is that they have to come forward with real papers and real facts due to US Homeland Security issues.....

To: latinobaseball@yahoogroups.com
From: salazar8017@...
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:02:27 -0700
Subject: [latinobaseball] Tejada lied about age

http://tinyurl.com/562937

Tejada lied about age

PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Houston Astros shortstop Miguel
Tejada has told the team he's actually 33, two years
older than he's listed in the club's media guide and
other baseball records.

Saying he wanted to rid himself of a burden, Tejada
approached general manager Ed Wade and asked to
correct misinformation he gave the Oakland Athletics
when he signed in 1993.

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