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Re: [latinobaseball] Retiring #21

Thanks for the note, Jorge.

There is a certain 'larger-than-life' aspect to
consider, as the Robinson integration has been called
(by some) the beginning of the civil rights movement.


Does Clemente fit that bill? Is it apples and
oranges?

--- Jorge Colón Delgado <jcolondelgado@...>
wrote:

> I think that what Jackie Robinson did, change not
> only baseball, but US history. If Robinson failed,
> Clemente would not had participate in the Majors.
> You are talking about a man who was the inspiration
> of Martin Luther King. Leave him alone.
>
> Jorge Colon Delgado
>
> Anthony Salazar <salazar8017@...> escribió:
> Has anyone been following the movement to
> retire the
> nubmer 21 from baseball? Organizing have been
> pushing
> this for a number of months, much to the chagrin on
> Sharon Robinson, Jackie Robinson's widow. She feels
> this would diminish the honor (of number 42 being
> retired) bestowed upon Robinson back in 1987.
>
> I suspect that the movement will be receiving a
> little
> more attention with the All Star Game being played
> in
> Pittsburgh.
>
> What do people think about retiring #21 in honor of
> Roberto Clemente?
>
> It may be interesting to note the origins of the #42
> honor to begin with, as baseball sought to honor the
> 40th (?) anniversary of Jackie's integration. This
> came at the heels of the Campanis episode, followed
> by
> MLB hiring Dr. Harry Edwards to looks into
> baseball's
> affirmative action programs and the Jesse Jackson
> threat to boycott baseball.
>
> Again, do you think there's validity to the movement
> to retire #21 from ballparks across the nation, akin
> to Jackie Robinson's #42?
>
> thanks,
> Anthony
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Has anyone been following the movement to retire the nubmer 21 from baseball? Organizing have been pushing this for a number of months, much to the chagrin on...
Anthony Salazar
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Jul 5, 2006
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I think that what Jackie Robinson did, change not only baseball, but US history. If Robinson failed, Clemente would not had participate in the Majors. You...
Jorge Colón Delgado
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Jul 5, 2006
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Thanks for the note, Jorge. There is a certain 'larger-than-life' aspect to consider, as the Robinson integration has been called (by some) the beginning of...
Anthony Salazar
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Jul 5, 2006
11:49 pm

Anthony et al., First of kudos to Anthony and NWSABR for putting on an excellent convention. What a fine experience. I am still in Washington admiring the...
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Jul 6, 2006
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Colleagues - I have to admit that I am a bit shocked by the tone and direction this exchange has taken. Robinson was unquestionably more than a pioneer. The ...
Gabriel A. Terrasa
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Jul 6, 2006
3:56 pm

Thanks for your input, Gabriel and Claudia. The discussion has been enlightening thus far. Interestingly, the comments have been mixed. I've also consulted...
Anthony Salazar
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Jul 6, 2006
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Listers, It was not my intention to denigrate Clemente's achievements, and I wholeheartedly agree that comparing Clemente to Robinson shouldn't be the point....
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Jul 7, 2006
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My idol all my life has been Roberto Clemente. We can not compare Jackie Robinson to anyone, he is one of kind. Retiring Clementes number will bring an issue...
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