Hi Jan,
You enquired about the kitesurfing status in California? Well, there
are quite a few kitesurfing areas in the southern California area. The
kitesurf areas that I know about are: Belmont Shores (in Long Beach), Sunset
Beach (near Seal Beach), and Cabrillo Beach (in San Pedro). Last Saturday I
went to Sunset Beach and there were a lot of kitesurfers. If you want more
info, contact Steve Kent @ Kites Etc.
phone number - 562/592-5483
No , I have Just returned from a stay at a friends house on Kileua Beach,Hawaii.
I've seen the Kites for the first time and took a lesson out of Robby Naish's
shop. Also saw a prototype like 15m 4 line wing. Looked good. I'
m sold. Both my daughter & I took the lesson and it was great. San
Diego is a light wind area. So I'm looking around to see if anyone is riding.
No luck so Far. If you hear of anyone selling, lessons,ect let me know.
"Jan H. Blaesild" wrote:
Hey..
anyone knows anything about the Kitesurf status in CA??
Jan, denmark
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Hello,
I've been flying a quad line kite (Predator) on standard quad line handles
for a while now. I have just bough a 4.9m Blade that I would eventually
like to use kite surfing (at the moment I use them in conjunction with a
mountain board on the beach). I know that the Blade can be flown as a
two-line kite from a bar rather than handles. It seems that most people use
bars rather than handles when kite-surfing, so is it possible to fly any
quad-line kite (including my Predator) from a bar?? If so, how do you do
it, and if not, then why not if the Blade can be flown in this fashion.
Also, does anyone out there kite-surf with handles, or does everyone use
bars..What are the main arguments for and against bars and handles.
Al.
****************************************
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University of Wales
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Lots of people kitesurf with handles. You can jump, jibe, cruise, etc.
Maybe they're a little less suited to extreme aerial stunts, can't say since
I'm a long way from doing that stuff. However, very few (if any) of the
kitesurfing "elite" use handles. If you look in the magazines all you see
is bars - "Gotta use what Robby uses, right? I wanna be just like Robby!!"
Anyway, have a look in the archives on the kitesurf e-group, there was just
a lot of debate on this and lots of pros/cons were discussed. It should
help.
Most 4-line kites can be flown off a bar. Again, look in the archives,
there's lots of info.
dave
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From: "ALAN RICHARD COLE" <arc94@...>
To: <ksurfschool@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 8:02 AM
Subject: [ksurfschool] Handles and bars
> Hello,
> I've been flying a quad line kite (Predator) on standard quad line handles
> for a while now. I have just bough a 4.9m Blade that I would eventually
> like to use kite surfing (at the moment I use them in conjunction with a
> mountain board on the beach). I know that the Blade can be flown as a
> two-line kite from a bar rather than handles. It seems that most people
use
> bars rather than handles when kite-surfing, so is it possible to fly any
> quad-line kite (including my Predator) from a bar?? If so, how do you do
> it, and if not, then why not if the Blade can be flown in this fashion.
>
> Also, does anyone out there kite-surf with handles, or does everyone use
> bars..What are the main arguments for and against bars and handles.
>
> Al.
>
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> Institute of Geography and Earth Studies
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Dave Raue wrote:
> Lots of people kitesurf with handles. You can jump, jibe, cruise, etc.
> Maybe they're a little less suited to extreme aerial stunts, can't say since
> I'm a long way from doing that stuff. However, very few (if any) of the
> kitesurfing "elite" use handles. If you look in the magazines all you see
> is bars - "Gotta use what Robby uses, right? I wanna be just like Robby!!"
The reason is that those "elite" already had similar skills in windsurfing, wake
boarding or water
skiing (they all used bars in their other sports). It did not take them much
time to adapt those
skills in kitesurfing and of course they will will choose bars over handles.
Those I would consider
"old guards".
Hopefully the younger generation of kitesurfers would have no such "restriction"
and will experiment
with many different types of control devices. Kane Hartill, one of those
younger kitesurfers, uses
handles and yet he can challenge a number of bar "elite"
When I first learned snowboarding in the late 80's most of the riders were much
younger than I was.
Now I start kitesurfing (12 years latter!), most of the kitesurfers are either
within my generation
or older. This is a scary though! We need to attract more younger people into
kitesurfing.
Personally, I use a reel bar with my inflatables and handles with my foils.
Whatever device you
choose to use, make sure you have a working safety release system (I am not sure
how to build a
safety release system for a 2 line foil so if you have to fly a foil with a bar,
make sure you use a
3 or 4 line bar).
Hung.
Anyone know anything about Stonker kiteboards from Axel Air?? Can you get
them in the UK? how much do they cost (UK pounds). Where can I egt them
from. Are they any good??
Al.
****************************************
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Postgraduate Research Student
Institute of Geography and Earth Studies
University of Wales
Aberystwyth
Ceredigion
SY23 3DB
(01970) 621523 Daytime only
(07974) 392605 24 hr.
****************************************
No , I have Just returned from a stay at a friends house on Kileua Beach,Hawaii. I've seen the Kites for the first time and took a lesson out of Robby Naish's shop. Also saw a prototype like 15m 4 line wing. Looked good. I' m sold. Both my daughter & I took the lesson and it was great. San Diego is a light wind area. So I'm looking around to see if anyone is riding. No luck so Far. If you hear of anyone selling, lessons,ect let me know.
"Jan H. Blaesild" wrote:
Hey..
anyone knows anything about the Kitesurf status in CA??
Jan, denmark
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Hi Ariel,
There are two kitesurfing schools in the Kailua area that I know about.
There is Naish Hawaii (808/262-6068) and Kailua Windsurfing Center. Have fun.
Nelson
I have just made the "spring" update to the Kitesurfing school web site. I have
also included a
reprint of two articles from the Kiteboarding Magazine - a jibing article by
Robby Naish and a
jumping article by Elliot Leboe. These articles are posted with a temporary
permission from the
Kiteboarding Magazine and can be found in the HowTo section of the Kitesurfing
School web site (
http://www.netcom.ca/~hungvu/kitesurfing.htm ).
Hung.
Hello
My wife is going to San Diago California this April for a week long
training. I was wondering if there are any kitesurfing schools there?
If there are I may make plans to go with her.
Thanks
Kelly
Hi; Mike-San Diego,
I envy you. The season in Hawaii is wet, cool & breezy. Of coarse
you will have to contend with the 75-80' temperature. Water temp is pleasant
as well but if you have a spring suit or shorty you might want to take
it along. You will get sun burnt without lotion.
Naish has a shop in Kailua. They will sell you a kite & I
believe Lesson are included or you can just buy a set of lessons.
(All new equipment and friendly people.) But no rentals!
They, as well as all other shops that have Kites, do not have
a "Beach Permit " to rent .The word is that they (Naish) are concerned
(with beach walkers, swimmers, & wind surfers) that Kites pose a potential
danger to others. The Politics Of permit submission and granting is part
of it. But I also see their point. For launching from the Beach you just
need space, especially if you are learning.( as Mackenzie & I ).The
sheering force of kite lines under tension in the power window could cause
damage. Compounding this is the fact that the sport is so new that everyone
and I mean everyone that walks by stops and watches. It is great ! (I lived
and learned windsurfing on that same beach so long ago & it was the
same then) People are curious. They walk up and talk and ask questions.
I think it may be the thrill , the newness of the sport and the innate
satisfaction of harnessing the wind to do our bidding. Just like the beginnings
of windsurfing Who doesn't get a kick from flying a kite. There are web
sites for both Naish's & Maui Kite stuff.( I tried to do a hyper link
for you but I screwed it up - sorry)
If you have some flexibility look in to going to Maui. I heard
lessons & rentals are to be had there.
Enjoy the Plate Lunches:
Mike
MIKE: I am planning a trip to Kailua,
HI for kitersufing. How is it? are there any rental? schools? I thank
every advice. Ariel
No , I have Just returned from a stay at a friends house on Kileua Beach,Hawaii.
I've seen the Kites for the first time and took a lesson out of Robby Naish's
shop. Also saw a prototype like 15m 4 line wing. Looked good. I'
m sold. Both my daughter & I took the lesson and it was great. San
Diego is a light wind area. So I'm looking around to see if anyone is riding.
No luck so Far. If you hear of anyone selling, lessons,ect let me know.
"Jan H. Blaesild" wrote:
Hey..
anyone knows anything about the Kitesurf status in CA??
Jan, denmark
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Hi Mike-San Diego
Sorry can't be of help. I've called around to a few places here and just
got dumb looks. That's Hard over the phone. I did gleen this off the
e-group:
You inquired about the kitesurfing status in California? Well, there
are quite a few kitesurfing areas in the southern California area. The
kitesurf areas that I know about are: Belmont Shores (in Long Beach),
Sunset
Beach (near Seal Beach), and Cabrillo Beach (in San Pedro). Last Saturday
I
went to Sunset Beach and there were a lot of kitesurfers. If you want more
info, contact Steve Kent @ Kites Etc.
phone number - 562/592-5483
I'm looking in that direction now,. Good luck!
Mike
Kelly Levely wrote:
> Hello
>
> My wife is going to San Diago California this April for a week long
> training. I was wondering if there are any kitesurfing schools there?
> If there are I may make plans to go with her.
>
> Thanks
>
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Hi,
unfortunately I do not know much about kitesurfing in Tenerife or Lanzarote.
Even though there are probably a few good location, these islands are not renown
for their watersports, more for their party atmosphere.
I have been to Fueterventura on a few occasions and this is the Canary island
where you want to go. There is a beach called flag beach which is very famous
for world championship speed windsurfing. The conditions are ideal. Very long
sandy beach with a huge lagoon that is always flat. It is on the East coast
about 3/4 of the way south. You can also catch a ferry to the island from
Tenerife as they are very near to each other.
I am hoping to go again, this time taking my kite surfing equipment. It is
ideal for learning and there is always wind, hence it's not extremely popular
with people wanting to sun bathe.
This is the place for all water sports especially Windsurfing and kitesurfing.
I hope this helps
Martyn
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Does anybody know about Kitesurfing ( schools, banned areas, ...) in Tenerife
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Does anybody know about Kitesurfing ( schools, banned areas, ...) in Tenerife and Gran Canaria?
Hi, unfortunately I do not know much about kitesurfing in Tenerife or Lanzarote. Even though there are probably a few good location, these islands are not renown for their watersports, more for their party atmosphere.
I have been to Fueterventura on a few occasions and this is the Canary island where you want to go. There is a beach called flag beach which is very famous for world championship speed windsurfing. The conditions are ideal. Very long sandy beach with a huge lagoon that is always flat. It is on the East coast about 3/4 of the way south. You can also catch a ferry to the island from Tenerife as they are very near to each other.
I am hoping to go again, this time taking my kite surfing equipment. It is ideal for learning and there is always wind, hence it's not extremely popular with people wanting to sun bathe.
This is the place for all water sports especially Windsurfing and kitesurfing. I hope this helps Martyn
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I had to learn this the hard way... I have a mosquito 9+ and the way to make a three line kite is by taking the two blue brake lines that are on the kite and extending them by a couple of feet with kite line... On the leader bridals from the kite, put a metal ring on both of them where all of the lines come together.. Once you have the rings on there, run the two extended brake lines through the rings and then tie them together.. Your brake lines should now form a V...
From the bar, you want to add an eight foot extention for starters up the middle of the bar... It needs to be a rope like line 5mm in diameter and you should evenly space knots on the line for brake tension adjustment.. now you connect your brake kite line to the extension line on your bar and connect it to the V you made with the brake bridal lines..
You can hook a leash to the middle line as well for a kill system on the kite.. It will help the kite relaunch when it lands upside down as well...
Anyone seen rewiev on kite board.
Or do any of you have some recommendations? or advice on what to keep away from
i'm 70 kg and the board should be used mainly when i'm not windsurfing ;-) flat
water light wind.
-thorbjørn, denmark
hello
would you send the dimension to me too ;-)
i have newer tried to make my own board and know very little about this and
would like to have a "flying start" in shaping my own board, therefor it would
be great if you would send me some guiding dimension.
if you have several different board sizes it would be great if you send one in
the size 215cm or bigger.
i have seen a program where it was possible to store your own shapes, dont
remember the name but i can find it again, maybe you could send a document for a
similiar program and then i could print it at my office.
-thorbjørn, denmark
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Fra: Olivier BRUNNER [mailto:Olivier.Brunner@...]
Sendt: 11. februar 2000 14:28
Til: ksurfschool@egroups.com
Emne: [ksurfschool] Re: Sv: Kitesurf Boards
Hi,
I would be interested in a 5m second hand Wipika. Concerning Alan's
question, we are shaping our own boards and I can give you the
dimensions.
f you want to shape your own board, you can find useful info @
http://www.shape3d.com/
gibsotho wrote:
>
> The online second hand shop sounds great, i would be able to contribute! I may
> have a few second hand Wipika's, 5,6 and 8mte's possibley.
>
> Jan Harder Blæsild wrote:
>
> > Good idear..
> >
> > lets create a world wide online second hand-shop..
> >
> > ----------
> > >Fra: "Alan Cole" <justal@...>
> > >Til: ksurfschool@egroups.com
> > >Emne: [ksurfschool] Kitesurf Boards
> > >Dato: fre 11. feb 2000 11:47
> > >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > I've been flying kites since January this year, and soon progressed onto
> > > kite-mountanboarding on the beach (I use a 2.8m Predator II kite and an
MBS
> > > Reactor mountainboard). I now want to start kite-surfing properly, so need
a
> > > board.
> > > What is the best route to go as far as a kiteboard is concerned? What
length
> > > is best? (I've been windsurfing and surfing for years, so the board skills
> > > should already be OK).
> > > I don't have a lot of money, and living in the UK, lots of commercial
> > > kiteboard options are not easily accessible.
> > > Should I get on old 7ft pop-out surfboard and put some straps on it
myself?
> > > or would this be a false economy...Would it be better to save somemore
money
> > > and buy a decent board. Production kiteboards in the UK such as Naish,
F-one
> > > and Fanatic boards seem to be £500-£600. I could convert an old pop-out
for
> > > less than £100.
> > > Alternatively, a friend of mine shapes surfboards, and given the exact
> > > dimensions of a kiteboard and all the specs, could probably make me one
for
> > > around £300.
> > > Does anyone have any recommendations??
> > > Can anyone send me dimensions and specifications for a suitable custom
> > > kite-board (The more comprehensive the better)
> > > Does anyone know of anything in the second hand market that would be
> > > suitable.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Al.
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Thorbjørn Brøndum wrote:
> i'm 70 kg and the board should be used mainly when i'm not windsurfing ;-)
flat water light wind.
In light wind, try some boards in the range of 210 to 240 cm.
Hung.
Well it would be great if I had the possibilty to try some boards but, the surf
shop manager that Have the only surf shop in my area, is a really asshole and he
wont let people try the equipment before buying it, therefore it would be great
if I could get some comment from you, or someone else or maybe if a magazine
would or had maded a rewiev guide on some kiteboards.
-Thorbjørn, Denmark
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Sendt: 25. marts 2000 03:42
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Emne: [ksurfschool] Re: rewiev on boards
Thorbjørn Brøndum wrote:
> i'm 70 kg and the board should be used mainly when i'm not windsurfing ;-)
flat water light wind.
In light wind, try some boards in the range of 210 to 240 cm.
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Dringender Aufruf!!!
Urgent calling out!!!
Urgent appel!!!
Kitesurfing ist ein neuer Fun-Sport, der weltweit eine grossen Aufschwung
erlebt.
Kaum sind die ersten Kitesurfer auf den Schweizer Seen, will das Bundesamt
für
Verkehr diesen Sport verbieten.
Kitesurfing is a new funsport, witch has all over the world a big boom.
Just are the first kitesurfer on the lakes of switzerland, the swiss
national departement of
trafic, want to forbid this sport.
Kitesurfing est un nuveau fun-sport, qui a maintenant une grande
augmentation a tout le mond.
Justement, les premiers kitesurfer sont sur les lacs de la Suisse, le
conseil fédérale du trafic, veux
interdire le sport.
In der Binnenschifffahrtsverordnung soll es neu heissen:
Art. 54 Fahren mit Wasserski oder ähnlichen Geräten
Das Schleppen von Fluggeräten (Flugdrachen, Drachenfallschime und ähnlichen
Geräte)
sowie das Geschlepptwerden von solchen Fluggeräten ist verboten.
In the decree of the departement of shipping thei want to write:
Art. 54 Driving with watterskis and simular construktions
The drag of flying objects (kites and other simular products) as to be
draged from a
sutch flying object is forbidden.
Dans le décret de la departement de navigation ils veulent ecrire.
Art. 54 Conduire avec ski nautique et des produits ressemblants.
Trainer avec des objectes volant (cerf-volant et ressemblants produits) come
se laissé trainer
avec ce produits volant est interdite.
Faktisch heisst dass, Kitesurfen ist auf den Schweizer Gewässern ab 1.1.2001
verboten.
Actual this means, kitesurfing is forbidden on Swiss lakes from the 1st
january 2001.
Actuellement ça veut dire, kitesurfing est interdit sur les lacs Suisse
depuis le 1. janvier 2001.
Wir müssen dringend etwas dagegen unternehmen.
Die Vernehmlassung läuft bis zum 19. Mai 2000, dann steht die Verordnung.
We must do urgently something against this law.
The period of protest is running out on the 19th mai 2000, after the law is
fix.
Nous devons urgent faire quelque chause contre cette loi.
La periode de protest est juqu'au 19. mai 2000, aprés le loi est fixé.
Folgenden Punkte möchte ich Euch vorschlagen, was Ihr gegen das Gesetz
unternehmen könnt:
The following way I want to propose you, what you can do against this law:
Les suivants points je veux proposé a vous, quesque vous peut faire contre
la loi:
1. Schickt dieses E-mail an alle Eure Freunde, Kunden, Bekannte und
Verwandte weiter.
Damit wir ein möglichst grosse Zahl an Interessierten erreichen.
1. Send this e-mail to all your friends, clients, and other guys.
That we can reach, a big number of interested people.
1. Envoyez cette e-mail a touts votre amis, clients et d'autres personnes.
Pour s'adresser a une grande nombre de personnes.
2. Macht eine Eingabe in Gruppen oder Einzeln an
Bundesamt für Verkehr, Sektion Schifffahrt, Bollwerk 27, 3003 Bern
e-mail webmaster@...
dass im Art. 54, der Teil
"das Geschleptwerden von solchen Fluggeräten ist verboten"
ersatzlos gestrichen wird.
2. Make a protest in a groupe or for your self, against this law to the
Bundesamt für Verkehr, Sektion Schifffahrt, Bollwerk 27, 3003 Bern
e-mail webmaster@...
that in the Art. 54, the part
"to let somebody drag from a such flying object is forbidden"
has to be canceld.
2. Faites un protest dans un groupe ou individuelle, contre cette loi au
Bundesamt für Verkehr, Sektion Schifffahrt, Bollwerk 27, 3003 Bern
e-mail webmaster@...
que dans Art. 54, la partie
"come se laissé trainer avec ce produits volants est interdite"
doit être suprimé sans remplacement.
3. Versucht Verbände, Medien, Politiker usw., für unser Anligen zu
mobilisieren.
Nur mit starken gemeinsamen Anstrengungen können wir das Gesetz noch
verhindern.
3. Try to get the support of associations, medias, political people and
more, for our subject.
Only with strong and united effort we can prevent this law.
3. Essayez de mobiliser, des associations, medias, politicen etc. pour notre
intérét.
Seulement avec un grand effort réuni nous pouvons empêcher cette loi.
4. Um die nötige Stärke und die finanziellen Mittel für rechtliche Schritte
gegen dieses
Gesetz zu haben, braucht die Swiss Kitesailing Association dringend mehr
Mitglieder.
4. The Swiss Kitesailing Association needs urgently more member, to be
enough strong
and to fight against this law.
4. La Swiss Kitesailing Association a urgentment besoin plus de membres,
pour être forte
et lutter contre cette loi.
Wir bitten Euch um Unterstützung.
We ask you for your support.
Nous demandons pour votre aide.
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Thank you for helping.
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I want to learn how to kitesurf. I plan to use my kite in 8-15 knots,
as I will stick to windsurfing above this. This is within the quoted
wind range of both the 7.0 and 9.0 Naish kites. I weigh approx 80 kg.
Which size would be easier to learn on in these light winds, the more
powerful 9.0 or the (? easier to use) 7.0.
Holger
9.0
holl@... wrote:
> I want to learn how to kitesurf. I plan to use my kite in 8-15 knots,
> as I will stick to windsurfing above this. This is within the quoted
> wind range of both the 7.0 and 9.0 Naish kites. I weigh approx 80 kg.
> Which size would be easier to learn on in these light winds, the more
> powerful 9.0 or the (? easier to use) 7.0.
>
> Holger
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Interesting response. I am learning at the moment and I purchased a 7m Naish.
I thought that this would be a good compromise. The Naish kites are nice and
are easy to hold on to when the wind picks up. If you get a 9M you will
probably have to get a second, smaller kite as well which becomes expensive.
It is very difficult to suggest what you should buy. The best advice would be
to have a go of a kite, preferably a couple of different kites, e.g. a foil and
a Naish and then compare. A foil is far more powerful and has a better wind
window but ditch it and your swimming in. However, I have found that when
learning it is best not to go into deep water and because of this you rarely
ditch the kite, especially if you can fly it well on land.
As I said I went for the 7m Naish and I am 85kg. My brother is 105Kg and
struggled with my 7m in about 10-13 knots of wind, I mean he really has to throw
it around to waterstart and then couldn't stay on because lack of power.
If you are certain that you can get these constant winds of 8-15 knots then the
9m would be good. But learning becomes easier when the wind is in the high range
for the kite. If I had my choice again I would still stay with the 7m. Most of
my mates have also compromised and got 6.5m wipikas which they are happy with,
it depends on the wind coniditions and what you are going to get down the beach
each time you go.
jrstudio@... on 06-Apr-2000 09:38
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To: ksurfschool
cc: (bcc: Martyn Gilson-1/DEV/PHRD/SB_PLC)
Subject: Re: [ksurfschool] Naish 7.0 or 9.0
9.0
holl@... wrote:
> I want to learn how to kitesurf. I plan to use my kite in 8-15 knots,
> as I will stick to windsurfing above this. This is within the quoted
> wind range of both the 7.0 and 9.0 Naish kites. I weigh approx 80 kg.
> Which size would be easier to learn on in these light winds, the more
> powerful 9.0 or the (? easier to use) 7.0.
>
> Holger
>
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It all depends on where you live and the wind you get and a few other
factors, like what type of board, etc..
I bought a Naish 7.0 because I was new, and I haven't had the opportunity to
use it with my wake board yet.. The winds here on Oahu are usually from 8 to
15 mph as well, and being 200 pounds with a wake board, I needed something a
lot stronger... I did end up buying a mosquito 9+ which is a foil and is
water relaunchable.. No swimming back in for me :)
If I could do it over again, I would have one kite and that would be the
naish 11.5 and if the winds pick up, you shorten your lines (I have 20,30,
and 40m line sets).. You can fly a bigger kite with shorter lines making it
more affordable to where you only need one kite and not two like I have
right now...
I would definitely stick with a Naish though.. Very easy to control for
beginning.. :)
Good luck and aloha
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: <Martyn_Gilson-1@...>
To: <ksurfschool@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ksurfschool] Naish 7.0 or 9.0
> Interesting response. I am learning at the moment and I purchased a 7m
Naish.
> I thought that this would be a good compromise. The Naish kites are nice
and
> are easy to hold on to when the wind picks up. If you get a 9M you will
> probably have to get a second, smaller kite as well which becomes
expensive.
>
> It is very difficult to suggest what you should buy. The best advice
would be
> to have a go of a kite, preferably a couple of different kites, e.g. a
foil and
> a Naish and then compare. A foil is far more powerful and has a better
wind
> window but ditch it and your swimming in. However, I have found that when
> learning it is best not to go into deep water and because of this you
rarely
> ditch the kite, especially if you can fly it well on land.
>
> As I said I went for the 7m Naish and I am 85kg. My brother is 105Kg and
> struggled with my 7m in about 10-13 knots of wind, I mean he really has to
throw
> it around to waterstart and then couldn't stay on because lack of power.
>
> If you are certain that you can get these constant winds of 8-15 knots
then the
> 9m would be good. But learning becomes easier when the wind is in the high
range
> for the kite. If I had my choice again I would still stay with the 7m.
Most of
> my mates have also compromised and got 6.5m wipikas which they are happy
with,
> it depends on the wind coniditions and what you are going to get down the
beach
> each time you go.
>
>
>
>
>
> jrstudio@... on 06-Apr-2000 09:38
>
>
>
> Please respond to ksurfschool@egroups.com
>
> To: ksurfschool
> cc: (bcc: Martyn Gilson-1/DEV/PHRD/SB_PLC)
> Subject: Re: [ksurfschool] Naish 7.0 or 9.0
>
>
>
>
> 9.0
>
> holl@... wrote:
>
> > I want to learn how to kitesurf. I plan to use my kite in 8-15 knots,
> > as I will stick to windsurfing above this. This is within the quoted
> > wind range of both the 7.0 and 9.0 Naish kites. I weigh approx 80 kg.
> > Which size would be easier to learn on in these light winds, the more
> > powerful 9.0 or the (? easier to use) 7.0.
> >
> > Holger
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Gary,
It is terribly unfair for you to email the group and to say hurtful things like,
"The winds here in Oahu..."
I didn't realise that places like the Hawaiian Islands existed and I thought
that this is where people went when they died. I thought all the 'photos' in
the magazines are computer generated from dreams people have when they
experience 'near death'. The 'tunnel of light' is the light streaming in to
the wave when viewed from inside the tube!
Cheers for your advice
Martyn
garys@... on 06-Apr-2000 11:35
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To: ksurfschool
cc: (bcc: Martyn Gilson-1/DEV/PHRD/SB_PLC)
Subject: Re: [ksurfschool] Naish 7.0 or 9.0
It all depends on where you live and the wind you get and a few other
factors, like what type of board, etc..
I bought a Naish 7.0 because I was new, and I haven't had the opportunity to
use it with my wake board yet.. The winds here on Oahu are usually from 8 to
15 mph as well, and being 200 pounds with a wake board, I needed something a
lot stronger... I did end up buying a mosquito 9+ which is a foil and is
water relaunchable.. No swimming back in for me :)
If I could do it over again, I would have one kite and that would be the
naish 11.5 and if the winds pick up, you shorten your lines (I have 20,30,
and 40m line sets).. You can fly a bigger kite with shorter lines making it
more affordable to where you only need one kite and not two like I have
right now...
I would definitely stick with a Naish though.. Very easy to control for
beginning.. :)
Good luck and aloha
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: <Martyn_Gilson-1@...>
To: <ksurfschool@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ksurfschool] Naish 7.0 or 9.0
> Interesting response. I am learning at the moment and I purchased a 7m
Naish.
> I thought that this would be a good compromise. The Naish kites are nice
and
> are easy to hold on to when the wind picks up. If you get a 9M you will
> probably have to get a second, smaller kite as well which becomes
expensive.
>
> It is very difficult to suggest what you should buy. The best advice
would be
> to have a go of a kite, preferably a couple of different kites, e.g. a
foil and
> a Naish and then compare. A foil is far more powerful and has a better
wind
> window but ditch it and your swimming in. However, I have found that when
> learning it is best not to go into deep water and because of this you
rarely
> ditch the kite, especially if you can fly it well on land.
>
> As I said I went for the 7m Naish and I am 85kg. My brother is 105Kg and
> struggled with my 7m in about 10-13 knots of wind, I mean he really has to
throw
> it around to waterstart and then couldn't stay on because lack of power.
>
> If you are certain that you can get these constant winds of 8-15 knots
then the
> 9m would be good. But learning becomes easier when the wind is in the high
range
> for the kite. If I had my choice again I would still stay with the 7m.
Most of
> my mates have also compromised and got 6.5m wipikas which they are happy
with,
> it depends on the wind coniditions and what you are going to get down the
beach
> each time you go.
>
>
>
>
>
> jrstudio@... on 06-Apr-2000 09:38
>
>
>
> Please respond to ksurfschool@egroups.com
>
> To: ksurfschool
> cc: (bcc: Martyn Gilson-1/DEV/PHRD/SB_PLC)
> Subject: Re: [ksurfschool] Naish 7.0 or 9.0
>
>
>
>
> 9.0
>
> holl@... wrote:
>
> > I want to learn how to kitesurf. I plan to use my kite in 8-15 knots,
> > as I will stick to windsurfing above this. This is within the quoted
> > wind range of both the 7.0 and 9.0 Naish kites. I weigh approx 80 kg.
> > Which size would be easier to learn on in these light winds, the more
> > powerful 9.0 or the (? easier to use) 7.0.
> >
> > Holger
> >
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