This used to be such an active group. What happened? Was it the

retirement of of Lance Armstrong that put everyone to bed here? Are

we all at various bike forums?



OK - I have a ride report for the recent Tour de Frog (the Sierra

Century), which began and ended in the little town of Murphys, which

is in the heart of California's historic Gold Rush country.



Although I only rode the half century, it included 5400 feet of

climbing. There were consistent 15% grades, and some of those grades

went on for ridiculously implausible distances.



The full century included 12,000 feet of gain.



I've posted the report, with photographs, here:



http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=427577

We're still here! I guess that the proliferation of web-based bike chat

sites has silenced KOM.



Thanks for the report! That was my "home" century a few years ago. What

a great place for riding that is! The quaint Gold Country towns, quiet

roads, clean air. The terrain is so varied, you can ride hard, pine

forested mountains, or rolling vineyards.



You had great weather (as usual). We still aren't getting summer in the

UK. It's 15 celcius, grey, windy and rainy. :(



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I asked this question about 6 months ago and got two replies!

I'm still here and my interest is as strong as it was in 1988 when I

first rode the French Alps. At present I'm under seige with two kids

under the age of 4 so my nice trips to mountains have somewhat

disappeared.

I'm planning a comeback at 40 though!

Darren



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Sent: 17 June 2008 18:13

To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [kom_] Where is Everyone?



This used to be such an active group. What happened? Was it the

retirement of of Lance Armstrong that put everyone to bed here? Are we

all at various bike forums?



OK - I have a ride report for the recent Tour de Frog (the Sierra

Century), which began and ended in the little town of Murphys, which is

in the heart of California's historic Gold Rush country.



Although I only rode the half century, it included 5400 feet of

climbing. There were consistent 15% grades, and some of those grades

went on for ridiculously implausible distances.



The full century included 12,000 feet of gain.



I've posted the report, with photographs, here:



http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=427577

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Hi,



I'm in similar situation as Darren. Since my second child my cycling

activities are very limited. The only difference is that I can not

plan comeback at 40 because I'm 43 already. I plan comeback rather at

50 :-)



Jiri





> I asked this question about 6 months ago and got two replies!

> I'm still here and my interest is as strong as it was in 1988 when I

> first rode the French Alps. At present I'm under seige with two kids

> under the age of 4 so my nice trips to mountains have somewhat

> disappeared.

> I'm planning a comeback at 40 though!

> Darren

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> Subject: [kom_] Where is Everyone?

>

> This used to be such an active group. What happened? Was it the

> retirement of of Lance Armstrong that put everyone to bed here? Are we

> all at various bike forums?

>

> OK - I have a ride report for the recent Tour de Frog (the Sierra

> Century), which began and ended in the little town of Murphys, which is

> in the heart of California's historic Gold Rush country.

>

> Although I only rode the half century, it included 5400 feet of

> climbing. There were consistent 15% grades, and some of those grades

> went on for ridiculously implausible distances.

>

> The full century included 12,000 feet of gain.

>

> I've posted the report, with photographs, here:

>

> http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=427577

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Well, I was 46 yesterday, and I'm under siege from an enormous mortgage

on a large new (well, old and ramshackle and in need of *complete*

remodelling) house.



Consequently, I'm chained to my home desk 3 hours per evening and 10

hours per day at weekends doing extra private software consultancy to

pay the bills and the workmen, and avoid falling into the credit black

hole that seems to be consuming the world.



I still get to ride to my day job, so I get about 30 miles per day in,

but I feel flat and exhausted, and get dropped by my commuting partners

on the slightest of rises.



I plan to make a comeback in a couple of years when I have fixed the

house up and paid that scary debt down. I plan to work all the hours g*d

sends until autumn 2010. Then have a calm winter's training, allow

myself a training camp in a wram weather resort, and get back into the

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Hi Jiri

 

Remember that you're going to be losing your physical capabilities markedly over

the period 43yrs to 50 yrs if you're not training hard.  And you'll only regain

a small portion of them if you restart.  And it's very much more difficult to

restart a hard sport than to continue it.  That's why the number of over-50s

(50-59) and over-60s (60+) is so much smaller thay over 40s (40-49). It's quite

common to see past elite standard riders being dropped by formerly mediocre

riders of the same age.

 

Mike





 

 

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Hi everyone,



I'm back in Italy after a long NJ winter, lots of work, and little

cycling--and no climbing, of course. Due to a series of negative

circumstances starting in '05, I've ended my seasons here a bit less

fit than than the year before, thus started the following seasons less

fit, and as a result have been sliding backwards. We all know how hard

we have to work and suffer to function at the level we wish, and so

getting back to my 2004 level seems daunting. But it occurred to me,

apropos Mike's comment



> Remember that you're going to be losing your physical capabilities

> markedly over the period 43yrs to 50 yrs if you're not training

> hard.  And you'll only regain a small portion of them if you restart.



that this is precisely the time (at 61 years old) that I need to give

it all I've got, because if I get discouraged and slack off now, I'm

lost for good! I didn't really have a goal or motive to train hard

recently, but now I do: to once again be able to do any climb, any

ride I wish (within reason, of course), and enjoy doing it. I am

recalling the wonderful sensations and emotions I've felt riding in

the mountains, my reason for riding, and I want to experience those

highs again. I am so fortunate to live in a climbing paradise and want

to continue to experience and savor it to the fullest.



So, citius, altius, fortius!



Good to hear from everyone again.



April







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I also wondered what had happened with such a passionate group of climbers. 

Sorry to hear how some have slipped a bit.  I, on the other hand, have continued

over the last few years with hard, fast brevets and endurance rides....the

hillier the better.  This year, however, I did have to cut back on the longer

rides, as I've upped the intensity via racing.  Don't justify reduced fitness

and ability with a higher number representing your age.  This is my first year

as a licensed racer, at 57, and not only is it fun but the results are good

(except for last evening, when I was forced to the pavement).  If you do crash,

it's best to be in good physical condition to dissipate the nasty forces.



Cheers.................Nate





> To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> From: biciveneto@...

> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:57:30 +0200

> Subject: Re: [kom_] Where is Everyone?

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm back in Italy after a long NJ winter, lots of work, and little

> cycling--and no climbing, of course. Due to a series of negative

> circumstances starting in '05, I've ended my seasons here a bit less

> fit than than the year before, thus started the following seasons less

> fit, and as a result have been sliding backwards. We all know how hard

> we have to work and suffer to function at the level we wish, and so

> getting back to my 2004 level seems daunting. But it occurred to me,

> apropos Mike's comment

>

>> Remember that you're going to be losing your physical capabilities

>> markedly over the period 43yrs to 50 yrs if you're not training

>> hard. And you'll only regain a small portion of them if you restart.

>

> that this is precisely the time (at 61 years old) that I need to give

> it all I've got, because if I get discouraged and slack off now, I'm

> lost for good! I didn't really have a goal or motive to train hard

> recently, but now I do: to once again be able to do any climb, any

> ride I wish (within reason, of course), and enjoy doing it. I am

> recalling the wonderful sensations and emotions I've felt riding in

> the mountains, my reason for riding, and I want to experience those

> highs again. I am so fortunate to live in a climbing paradise and want

> to continue to experience and savor it to the fullest.

>

> So, citius, altius, fortius!

>

> Good to hear from everyone again.

>

> April

>

>

>

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The riding here in Colorado just gets more fun every year as I get more familiar

with the roads along the front range. There is always another climb to discover

just around the next corner.



The only real issue that we have is the shear volume of riders that have

negatively impacted the relationship between riders and the locals on some of

the more popular roads, which happen to be the access to the hills. The riders

are just as much at fault as the impatient drivers as riding 3 abreast and not

using the shoulder are not cool when a driver may have to deal with this

multiple times during the drive home.



To that point, I was hit by a car and left in the road unconcious last July 4th

on a route that I ride part of almost every week. Waking up in the hospital with

no idea how you got there is quite a drag! I found out later that the police had

the suspision that the person that found me may have had more to do with the

accident then just coming upon me in the road but no proof that things did not

happen as claimed.



All is well now though and while I don't normally like riding with thousands of

other riders my sister's (April) affinity for Gran Fondos got me interested in

riding the Triple Bypass. The ride is right around the corner and can either be

a pleasure or hell on earth depeding upon the wheather in a given year .



Keep the pressure on the pedals and the tires on the road...



Mike









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> From: Nate Morgenstern <nmorgenstern@...>

> Subject: RE: [kom_] Where is Everyone?

> To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 3:16 PM

> I also wondered what had happened with such a passionate

> group of climbers.  Sorry to hear how some have slipped a

> bit.  I, on the other hand, have continued over the last

> few years with hard, fast brevets and endurance

> rides....the hillier the better.  This year, however, I did

> have to cut back on the longer rides, as I've upped the

> intensity via racing.  Don't justify reduced fitness

> and ability with a higher number representing your age.

> This is my first year as a licensed racer, at 57, and not

> only is it fun but the results are good (except for last

> evening, when I was forced to the pavement).  If you do

> crash, it's best to be in good physical condition to

> dissipate the nasty forces.

>

> Cheers.................Nate

>

>

> > To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> > From: biciveneto@...

> > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:57:30 +0200

> > Subject: Re: [kom_] Where is Everyone?

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I'm back in Italy after a long NJ winter, lots of

> work, and little

> > cycling--and no climbing, of course. Due to a series

> of negative

> > circumstances starting in '05, I've ended my

> seasons here a bit less

> > fit than than the year before, thus started the

> following seasons less

> > fit, and as a result have been sliding backwards. We

> all know how hard

> > we have to work and suffer to function at the level we

> wish, and so

> > getting back to my 2004 level seems daunting. But it

> occurred to me,

> > apropos Mike's comment

> >

> >> Remember that you're going to be losing your

> physical capabilities

> >> markedly over the period 43yrs to 50 yrs if

> you're not training

> >> hard. And you'll only regain a small portion

> of them if you restart.

> >

> > that this is precisely the time (at 61 years old) that

> I need to give

> > it all I've got, because if I get discouraged and

> slack off now, I'm

> > lost for good! I didn't really have a goal or

> motive to train hard

> > recently, but now I do: to once again be able to do

> any climb, any

> > ride I wish (within reason, of course), and enjoy

> doing it. I am

> > recalling the wonderful sensations and emotions

> I've felt riding in

> > the mountains, my reason for riding, and I want to

> experience those

> > highs again. I am so fortunate to live in a climbing

> paradise and want

> > to continue to experience and savor it to the fullest.

> >

> > So, citius, altius, fortius!

> >

> > Good to hear from everyone again.

> >

> > April

> >

> >

> >

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Good to hear from this group.  Similar to some of the responses I too have not

been riding as much due to nagging injuries.  Doing some climbing in the US

looking for new climbs and thinking about a trip to Italy...



Anyone heard from Francois lately??



JHS



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The riding here in Colorado just gets more fun every year as I get more familiar

with the roads along the front range. There is always another climb to discover

just around the next corner.



The only real issue that we have is the shear volume of riders that have

negatively impacted the relationship between riders and the locals on some of

the more popular roads, which happen to be the access to the hills. The riders

are just as much at fault as the impatient drivers as riding 3 abreast and not

using the shoulder are not cool when a driver may have to deal with this

multiple times during the drive home.



To that point, I was hit by a car and left in the road unconcious last July 4th

on a route that I ride part of almost every week. Waking up in the hospital with

no idea how you got there is quite a drag! I found out later that the police had

the suspision that the person that found me may have had more to do with the

accident then just coming upon me in the road but no proof that things did not

happen as claimed.



All is well now though and while I don't normally like riding with thousands of

other riders my sister's (April) affinity for Gran Fondos got me interested in

riding the Triple Bypass. The ride is right around the corner and can either be

a pleasure or hell on earth depeding upon the wheather in a given year .



Keep the pressure on the pedals and the tires on the road...



Mike









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> From: Nate Morgenstern <nmorgenstern@...>

> Subject: RE: [kom_] Where is Everyone?

> To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 3:16 PM

> I also wondered what had happened with such a passionate

> group of climbers.  Sorry to hear how some have slipped a

> bit.  I, on the other hand, have continued over the last

> few years with hard, fast brevets and endurance

> rides....the hillier the better.  This year, however, I did

> have to cut back on the longer rides, as I've upped the

> intensity via racing.  Don't justify reduced fitness

> and ability with a higher number representing your age.

> This is my first year as a licensed racer, at 57, and not

> only is it fun but the results are good (except for last

> evening, when I was forced to the pavement).  If you do

> crash, it's best to be in good physical condition to

> dissipate the nasty forces.

>

> Cheers.................Nate

>

>

> > To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> > From: biciveneto@...

> > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:57:30 +0200

> > Subject: Re: [kom_] Where is Everyone?

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I'm back in Italy after a long NJ winter, lots of

> work, and little

> > cycling--and no climbing, of course. Due to a series

> of negative

> > circumstances starting in '05, I've ended my

> seasons here a bit less

> > fit than than the year before, thus started the

> following seasons less

> > fit, and as a result have been sliding backwards. We

> all know how hard

> > we have to work and suffer to function at the level we

> wish, and so

> > getting back to my 2004 level seems daunting. But it

> occurred to me,

> > apropos Mike's comment

> >

> >> Remember that you're going to be losing your

> physical capabilities

> >> markedly over the period 43yrs to 50 yrs if

> you're not training

> >> hard. And you'll only regain a small portion

> of them if you restart.

> >

> > that this is precisely the time (at 61 years old) that

> I need to give

> > it all I've got, because if I get discouraged and

> slack off now, I'm

> > lost for good! I didn't really have a goal or

> motive to train hard

> > recently, but now I do: to once again be able to do

> any climb, any

> > ride I wish (within reason, of course), and enjoy

> doing it. I am

> > recalling the wonderful sensations and emotions

> I've felt riding in

> > the mountains, my reason for riding, and I want to

> experience those

> > highs again. I am so fortunate to live in a climbing

> paradise and want

> > to continue to experience and savor it to the fullest.

> >

> > So, citius, altius, fortius!

> >

> > Good to hear from everyone again.

> >

> > April

> >

> >

> >

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I'm doing more skiing than cycling at the moment.



After 6 months of skiing (I was a complete beginner, not even having

roller skated as a kid) I realise how weak my ankles and lower legs

were when all I did was ride a bike a lot for exercise. Getting better

now though.



Doing 2 hours of rolling terrain or hill intervals on the roller-skis

seems more attractive than spending the same time on the bike, as it

is only 10 minutes to the park where I train (Greenwich) but I need 30

minutes to get out of London suburb into the countryside.



That said, I did travel to the northern Alps for a week of chalet

living and road riding recently, though it coincided badly with a

passing weather system that became ensnared on the peaks around Mont

Blanc - report below:







The week was spent in the vicinity of Geneva and Chamonix, exploring

this part of the northern French Alps, an area much less familiar to

me than the better-known cols further south between Grenoble and Briançon.



Poor weather meant that a couple of mid-week days were spent off the

bike, so some rides west towards Annecy and north to Morzine and Col

du Joux Plane will have to wait for another time. However a 100km ride

down through the Route des Gorges du Borne was stunning and another to

the Alpine valley town of Beaufort and up the awesome Cormet de

Roseland was also impressive. Very challenging climb that one, yet

rewarded with scenic views. A very difficult ride back over the long

Col des Saisies in cold rain though, but it had to be done in order to

get home.



In the Time-Megève itself there were three choices of circuit: 80 km

(Col de la Colombiere, Col des Aravis -- climbing 2850 m); 110 km

(Colombiere, Aravis, Saisies -- climbing 3930 m); 140 km (Colombiere,

Aravis, two different ascents of Saisies -- climbing 4810 m).



Interestingly, the route is designed so that the total amount of

climbing on the longest course exactly equals the height of nearby

Mont Blanc, the highest mountain in the Alps and for which the event

is named. Very clever, these French.



To complete this long course participants have to have reached control

points before certain cut-off times, otherwise they are re-directed on

to the shorter versions of the route. This is possible because the

routes of the three courses share the same initial and final sections,

but the longer routes also incorporate various additional detours on

the truly challenging Col des Saisies, a place that always seemed to

attract poor weather. Sometimes narrow and very deeply cracked by

frost damage in places, the road was also shrouded in low visibility

cloud on the day.



I was very focussed, eating/drinking regularly – something I'm not

always so diligent about, so this was a good sign – and benefiting

from having ridden all the climbs during the preceding week (often in

wet conditions), surprised at the relatively slow pace of most riders

along the initial 15 km of valley highway (compared with what would

happen in a similar Italian event on such a straight flat section

before the first main climb) and pleased with my ascent and descent of

the Col de la Colombiere, as I had misjudged the profile earlier in

the week when I first rode it from that side.



This 16 km climb went from moderately difficult to easy as it reached

and began following an upland valley river. Deceptively easy, in fact,

as it quickly went back to uncomfortably challenging once through the

village of le Reposoir, and finished with a grueling coup de grâce

that hugged a cliff and was made more desperate by the view of a small

hut on the crest of the col. When you first see it you think "ah, at

last, there's the top. I'll soon be up by that little shepherd's hut,"

but it seemed to take an age to get any nearer. Then, some 20 minutes

later, after the hut had revealed itself to actually be a 2 storey

house and the preceding kilometers of toil had been a relentless 10%

gradient along a bumpy, rockfall-dented road, the climbing was finally

done with for the moment.



On with wind jacket and over the top, no time to waste on the

well-stocked and rather busy first feed stop everyone else seemed

interested in -- too early to lose time here, we'd only done about 35

km. Now's the chance to grab back some of the places lost to those

annoying compact chainset spinners who had eased past me earlier on

and were now caught up in a bike-entangled scrum for cheap energy

drink, bits of fruit and biscuits.



The initial descent on the other side isn't very hard, just lots of

straightish sections and hairpins, so I again passed more riders,

especially when the road widened and levelled out through the ski

village of le Chinaillon, about halfway down the mountain. Deciding I

didn't want to be stuck in slow traffic on the more winding lower half

to Grand-Bornand I upped the speed briefly to 60, picking off a good

number of plodders with a smooth weaving line before we began to

plunge downhill again.



Almost immediately after reaching valley bottom and Grand-Bornand we

began the drag up to the next climb, Aravis, which began proper at the

ski town of la Clusaz. Where the road was flattish I coast a bit and

eat but once through la Clusaz it was time to concentrate on staying

with other riders. From this side the ascent is a relatively short one

of 8 km and a gentle gradient most of the way compared to the

Colombiere. The climb reminded me of the one to Passo Gardena in the

Maratona dles Dolomites -- not difficult, just a question of being

patient. Quite a large crowd of cheering spectators lined the roadside

from the last hairpin to the inevitable summit gift-shops, so as a

gesture to the fans (or my ego) I popped it onto the 53 and big-ringed

it for the final km to the top, thereby passing yet another clutch of

hefty mittel-Europeans in cow-patterned Assos kit.



The descent on the other side of Aravis is much steeper, longer, and

also very twisty compared with the Colombiere. Lots of official

photographers here too, perched on the tight corners, so another

reason to take care. Concentrate on looking cool; don't want any

mishaps recorded for posterity. The lower part after the village of la

Giettaz is a nice run along the side of a steep gorge. By now this was

the third time I had ridden it during the week, so I could take this

part quite fast and ride hard on the brief uphill stretch, knowing

that it would only last a corner or three before the road went

downhill again.



At about 70 km, we reached the village of Flumet, with its ancient

stone bridge spanning the ravine, where longer courses separated from

the short course for extra climbs over the Col des Saisis. It was here

I found I had a mechanical issue -- cracked rear brake caliper -- so

decided not to risk the alloy completely failing on another long

descent and opted for the short course and an early queue for the

dollops of overcooked pasta, stewed chicken and red wine they served

up at the finish.



Have since been wondering whether I would have been alright to do the

110 km route if I took the descent slow and smooth, as I was putting

in a good ride up till then.... Still, did a reasonable time, so am

happy enough, considering the circumstances.





80km // Overall placing 135/802 // Category placing 50 // Time 03:23:45

Everyone is gone?



Just rumbling through Yahoo memberships and checking on groups that

I'd set on 'quiet'.

Wouldn't you know that the last time I rode for more than 25K was

slightly more than 6 years ago. Last substantial hills climbed was

August 2003 when I participated in PBP (Paris-Brest-Paris).

Alas, I've been unable to ride a bicycle for over 3 years after

getting ill early 2004 (a rare bacterial infection in the spine and

psoas muscle did me in).



What really did me in was starting a business in 2005 (Pasio

Ingredients) , buying a car (2006) and .. falling in love with both a

guy and strength training. As of late 2008 even weight lifting.

Looking & feeling better than ever before, but alas, cycling is

not .. yet part of the equation.



Revamped the bike though late October, but the cycling bug hasn't yet

reinfected me.

Anyone who can rekindle the fire? The only thing that inspires me now

to resume cycling is the fact I'm at least 10kg lighter than before

and would henceforth go up hills far more easily than before. Alas,

leg strength also isn't what it used to be. For example, late 2003 I

could leg press 220kg for 20 reps with 1 leg and for 40 reps with 2

legs!  Now I full squat (ass to grass) 60kg, clean 40kg and snatch

30kg.

In case anyone still doubts whether strength training has its'

purpose for cycling, I saw a small video of Lance Armstrong doing a

hang clean (not entirely perfect though, but hey he's not a weight

lifter). Olympic lifting as well as just generic strength training

(preferably free weights) can really offer a a truly wonderful

strength base to improve on explosive strength.



Oh well, I'll be quiet again. Will you be quiet too? Or is the group

just dead and buried?



Yvana

I haven't ridden 100 miles in well over two years.



Riding to and from work is all I manage now. 30 miles a day means I'm

not getting too fat, but I'm no longer competetive.



With the credit crunch, all my evenings and weekends aer taken up with

freelance web development work to keep the mortgage giong and pay for

the house to be brought from the status of "wreck" to "vaguely habitable".



So no KOM points for me for the next couple of years.



:(



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Hi Nige, ONLY 30 mile a day!

You really are old school in training terms, mind you whatever you did

was pretty successful so I guess that it worked for you.

I'm sticking to my 30 mile a week routine.

Regards

Darren





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Sent: 12 February 2009 11:12

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Subject: Re: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?







I haven't ridden 100 miles in well over two years.



Riding to and from work is all I manage now. 30 miles a day means I'm

not getting too fat, but I'm no longer competetive.



With the credit crunch, all my evenings and weekends aer taken up with

freelance web development work to keep the mortgage giong and pay for

the house to be brought from the status of "wreck" to "vaguely

habitable".



So no KOM points for me for the next couple of years.



:(



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I'm also still here...

Due to the constantly cold (coldest in 15 years) winter of Holland

I'm off the bike for 3 months now... Trying to keep up in the fitness

school.. Good days will come!



--- In kom_@yahoogroups.com, "Darren Earp" <darren.earp@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Nige, ONLY 30 mile a day!

> You really are old school in training terms, mind you whatever you

did

> was pretty successful so I guess that it worked for you.

> I'm sticking to my 30 mile a week routine.

> Regards

> Darren

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: kom_@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kom_@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf

Of

> Nige White

> Sent: 12 February 2009 11:12

> To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?

>

>

>

> I haven't ridden 100 miles in well over two years.

>

> Riding to and from work is all I manage now. 30 miles a day means

I'm

> not getting too fat, but I'm no longer competetive.

>

> With the credit crunch, all my evenings and weekends aer taken up

with

> freelance web development work to keep the mortgage giong and pay

for

> the house to be brought from the status of "wreck" to "vaguely

> habitable".

>

> So no KOM points for me for the next couple of years.

>

> :(

>

> Nige

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Hi all,



I'm here too. Still spending the winters in NJ and the cycling season

in NE Italy, leading rides for two cycling camps--though with the

current economic situation, I haven't had much work from them...so I

just enjoy riding on my own and with friends :^), doing the occasional

gran fondo, and writing.  Each year seems to bring a new setback that

limits my riding: some, like moving, are good, others, like breaking

my ankle (hiking) last August, bad. But hope springs eternal and I'm

determined to return to my former levels of mileage and fitness,

knowing that if I don't make the effort now, I'll continue to go

downhill and will find myself no longer able to do what I love to do

most, and regretting it forever. Riding for me is all about

accumulating sensations, emotions, and experiences to hold on to and

cherish. It's my drug, my communion, and my antidote to all things

negative, and I need it! So suffer I shall!





I invite you all to visit my gallery, where you'll find lots of Giro

and mountain photos.



April





Biroto ergo sum

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OK - here's where I've been:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=512173



Photos of a short, but sweet climb into the Santa Monica mountains.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Since I've been racing more the last 3 years, I've been less obsessed about

climbing and exploring new climbs.  But, the fall/winter always reminds me of

beautiful climbs.



In the recent past I've referenced this site http://www.climbbybike.com/ and

John's book, http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Guide-Climbing-Bike/dp/0979257107.



My own climbing site, http://www.mountainmapper.com/sarc.htm, has fallen away

and is in need of a cosmetic and technology overhaul!



Frank





----- Original Message ----

From: Dave Wyman <dave@...>

To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:12:46 PM

Subject: [kom_] Where is Everyone?





This used to be such an active group. What happened? Was it the

retirement of of Lance Armstrong that put everyone to bed here? Are

we all at various bike forums?



OK - I have a ride report for the recent Tour de Frog (the Sierra

Century), which began and ended in the little town of Murphys, which

is in the heart of California's historic Gold Rush country.



Although I only rode the half century, it included 5400 feet of

climbing. There were consistent 15% grades, and some of those grades

went on for ridiculously implausible distances.



The full century included 12,000 feet of gain.



I've posted the report, with photographs, here:



http://www.bikeforu ms.net/showthrea d.php?t=427577













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I'm always cycling but at a 'cruising' than 'racing' effort, medium but not

hard.

 

My rides are now mainly on the flat as I can't be bothered to go to Europe,

Peak/Lake Districts, it's too much travel/preparation.  In August I'm going up

to the Peak District to ride the Phil&Friends 2600metres ride.  When I rode the

etapes/marmottes 5 years ago my heart rate used to average 119-121BPM.  2 weeks

ago in 125mile/3000m Highclere event I averaged 117BPM.  I now ride mostly long

rides 85-150 miles and have started having rest days between rides for obvious

reasons.



Mike Fletcher



--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Frank Obusek <fobusek@...> wrote:



From: Frank Obusek <fobusek@...>

Subject: Re: [kom_] Where is Everyone?

To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 5:42 PM













Since I've been racing more the last 3 years, I've been less obsessed about

climbing and exploring new climbs. But, the fall/winter always reminds me of

beautiful climbs.



In the recent past I've referenced this site http://www.climbbyb ike.com/ and

John's book, http://www.amazon. com/Complete- Guide-Climbing- Bike/dp/09792571

07.



My own climbing site, http://www.mountain mapper.com/ sarc.htm, has fallen away

and is in need of a cosmetic and technology overhaul!



Frank



----- Original Message ----

From: Dave Wyman <dave@icyclist. com>

To: kom_@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:12:46 PM

Subject: [kom_] Where is Everyone?



This used to be such an active group. What happened? Was it the

retirement of of Lance Armstrong that put everyone to bed here? Are

we all at various bike forums?



OK - I have a ride report for the recent Tour de Frog (the Sierra

Century), which began and ended in the little town of Murphys, which

is in the heart of California's historic Gold Rush country.



Although I only rode the half century, it included 5400 feet of

climbing. There were consistent 15% grades, and some of those grades

went on for ridiculously implausible distances.



The full century included 12,000 feet of gain.



I've posted the report, with photographs, here:



http://www.bikeforu ms.net/showthrea d.php?t=427577



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I am here.  FaceBook seems to be the online place to hang out....maybe we could

start a KOM group there.  I'm still riding and loving the climbs here in Western

North Carolina USA.  I've been racing the last several years and not enjoying

the climbs as much as I used to, but I can hear and feel them calling me

back.....along with the mtn bike.  I have not updated my Southern Appalachian

Road Climbs website....been wanting to do that, but just dont have the time

right now. http://www.mountainmapper.com/sarc.htm  But, maybe one day.



Hope everyone is doing well.



Frank









________________________________

From: Ivana <yvana@...>

To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:15:07 AM

Subject: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?





Everyone is gone?



Just rumbling through Yahoo memberships and checking on groups that

I'd set on 'quiet'.

Wouldn't you know that the last time I rode for more than 25K was

slightly more than 6 years ago. Last substantial hills climbed was

August 2003 when I participated in PBP (Paris-Brest- Paris).

Alas, I've been unable to ride a bicycle for over 3 years after

getting ill early 2004 (a rare bacterial infection in the spine and

psoas muscle did me in).



What really did me in was starting a business in 2005 (Pasio

Ingredients) , buying a car (2006) and .. falling in love with both a

guy and strength training. As of late 2008 even weight lifting.

Looking & feeling better than ever before, but alas, cycling is

not .. yet part of the equation.



Revamped the bike though late October, but the cycling bug hasn't yet

reinfected me.

Anyone who can rekindle the fire? The only thing that inspires me now

to resume cycling is the fact I'm at least 10kg lighter than before

and would henceforth go up hills far more easily than before. Alas,

leg strength also isn't what it used to be. For example, late 2003 I

could leg press 220kg for 20 reps with 1 leg and for 40 reps with 2

legs!  Now I full squat (ass to grass) 60kg, clean 40kg and snatch

30kg.

In case anyone still doubts whether strength training has its'

purpose for cycling, I saw a small video of Lance Armstrong doing a

hang clean (not entirely perfect though, but hey he's not a weight

lifter). Olympic lifting as well as just generic strength training

(preferably free weights) can really offer a a truly wonderful

strength base to improve on explosive strength.



Oh well, I'll be quiet again. Will you be quiet too? Or is the group

just dead and buried?



Yvana















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The chatter does seem to have stopped on this list.  But I, as I presume most,

are still around, and riding in one form or another.  In my case, from seeking

out the toughest climbs in the NJ, NY, PA area and doing competitive distance

rides, setting some records, I've moved in USCA racing, where I had a great

2008.  I still enjoy the hills, but haven't gone out of my way looking for new

ones in awhile.



Cheers...........Nate







> To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> From: fobusek@...

> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:28:37 -0800

> Subject: Re: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?

>

> I am here.  FaceBook seems to be the online place to hang out....maybe we

could start a KOM group there.  I'm still riding and loving the climbs here in

Western North Carolina USA.  I've been racing the last several years and not

enjoying the climbs as much as I used to, but I can hear and feel them calling

me back.....along with the mtn bike.  I have not updated my Southern Appalachian

Road Climbs website....been wanting to do that, but just dont have the time

right now. http://www.mountainmapper.com/sarc.htm  But, maybe one day.

>

> Hope everyone is doing well.

>

> Frank

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Ivana <yvana@...>

> To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:15:07 AM

> Subject: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?

>

>

> Everyone is gone?

>

> Just rumbling through Yahoo memberships and checking on groups that

> I'd set on 'quiet'.

> Wouldn't you know that the last time I rode for more than 25K was

> slightly more than 6 years ago. Last substantial hills climbed was

> August 2003 when I participated in PBP (Paris-Brest- Paris).

> Alas, I've been unable to ride a bicycle for over 3 years after

> getting ill early 2004 (a rare bacterial infection in the spine and

> psoas muscle did me in).

>

> What really did me in was starting a business in 2005 (Pasio

> Ingredients) , buying a car (2006) and .. falling in love with both a

> guy and strength training. As of late 2008 even weight lifting.

> Looking & feeling better than ever before, but alas, cycling is

> not .. yet part of the equation.

>

> Revamped the bike though late October, but the cycling bug hasn't yet

> reinfected me.

> Anyone who can rekindle the fire? The only thing that inspires me now

> to resume cycling is the fact I'm at least 10kg lighter than before

> and would henceforth go up hills far more easily than before. Alas,

> leg strength also isn't what it used to be. For example, late 2003 I

> could leg press 220kg for 20 reps with 1 leg and for 40 reps with 2

> legs!  Now I full squat (ass to grass) 60kg, clean 40kg and snatch

> 30kg.

> In case anyone still doubts whether strength training has its'

> purpose for cycling, I saw a small video of Lance Armstrong doing a

> hang clean (not entirely perfect though, but hey he's not a weight

> lifter). Olympic lifting as well as just generic strength training

> (preferably free weights) can really offer a a truly wonderful

> strength base to improve on explosive strength.

>

> Oh well, I'll be quiet again. Will you be quiet too? Or is the group

> just dead and buried?

>

> Yvana

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Sometime last year I think I started this question. I wish this were a more

active forum.



In a few minutes I'm going to ride my bike up into the Santa Monica Mountains

for 90

minutes or so. I'm glad I can do so, as I had a heart attack two months ago.

Luckily, I

recognized the symptoms and was operated on within 90 minutes. I now have a

stent in

one artery.



I was back - albeit slowly - on my bike five days later, with my doctor's

permission. Three

weeks later, after some tests, my doctor said to do whatever I wanted.



Too many sweets, family history, and stress probably played a role. The only

change I've

made in my lifestyle is to cut down the sweets and increase the consumption of

fruits,

vegetables and protein at the expense of those sweets. This has caused me to

lose some

weight, by the way, without even exercising, probably due in part, at first, to

muscle loss.



Now if it would just stop raining in Los Angeles, I would put some more miles on

my bike.

Today is beautiful, although chilly by S. California standards. And the Santa

Monicas, with

the Hollywood Sign clearly visible in the clean, clear air, beckon me to them.



On tap for me for the rest of this year: two organized California centuries

(Solvang and

Chico), and perhaps the Tour of the California Alps, as well as lots of rides

with friends.

Most of the time, though, I plan to simply pedal up the steepest roads I can

find north of

my home in the flatlands, so that I can know I am still King of the Mountain.

Was in SLO in Dec for my daughter's wedding.  My girlfriend and I rented bikes

from a great little shop in Atascadero, rode up the coast from Morro Bay to the

Lighthouse past Hearst Castle one day, and from SLO through Carpenter Canyon to

Huasna and back via Corbett Canyon the next.  She's not into the very steep

climbs, but also races (NJ Women's CAT 4 Cup Champion 2008).



Cheers............Nate





> To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> From: dave@...

> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:12:06 +0000

> Subject: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?

>

> Sometime last year I think I started this question. I wish this were a more

active forum.

>

> In a few minutes I'm going to ride my bike up into the Santa Monica Mountains

for 90

> minutes or so. I'm glad I can do so, as I had a heart attack two months ago.

Luckily, I

> recognized the symptoms and was operated on within 90 minutes. I now have a

stent in

> one artery.

>

> I was back - albeit slowly - on my bike five days later, with my doctor's

permission. Three

> weeks later, after some tests, my doctor said to do whatever I wanted.

>

> Too many sweets, family history, and stress probably played a role. The only

change I've

> made in my lifestyle is to cut down the sweets and increase the consumption of

fruits,

> vegetables and protein at the expense of those sweets. This has caused me to

lose some

> weight, by the way, without even exercising, probably due in part, at first,

to muscle loss.

>

> Now if it would just stop raining in Los Angeles, I would put some more miles

on my bike.

> Today is beautiful, although chilly by S. California standards. And the Santa

Monicas, with

> the Hollywood Sign clearly visible in the clean, clear air, beckon me to them.

>

> On tap for me for the rest of this year: two organized California centuries

(Solvang and

> Chico), and perhaps the Tour of the California Alps, as well as lots of rides

with friends.

> Most of the time, though, I plan to simply pedal up the steepest roads I can

find north of

> my home in the flatlands, so that I can know I am still King of the Mountain.

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello, I never really contributed any posts as such to this forum as it was more

or less dead when I joined it.I live on the edge of the Alps and ride there, a

little less often than in earlier years. Here are some links showing places

where I have been in recent times: (click "nächstes Bild" to proceed)Stelvio

"Winter-Sunday 5 October 2008"Review 2008Pragelpass - KlausenpassKind regards!

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In case the links don't

work:http://www.quaeldich.de/touren/rundfahrt-stilfser-joch/bilder/?BildID=15707\

http://www.quaeldich.de/touren/rueckblick-2008/bilder/?BildID=18387http://www.qu\

aeldich.de/touren/rundfahrt-illgau-pragel-klausen/bilder/?BildID=19508Just click

"naechstes Bild" each time to proceed to the next piccy.Oh, and for Gavia

fans:http://www.quaeldich.de/touren/herbstwochenende-veltlin/bilder/?BildID=1459\

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Dave, sorry to hear about your health issue but thankfully you still

ride (could be worse).  As you likely know heart disease is ~50% due to

genetic factors so even some fit folks are at risk.  I have been curious

about some of the Santa Monica climbs (I did Latigo Canyon Rd and few

others a few yrs ago) so any idea of the most difficult in that area??



JHS



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From: kom_@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kom_@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

Dave Wyman

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:12 PM

To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?



Sometime last year I think I started this question. I wish this were a

more active forum.



In a few minutes I'm going to ride my bike up into the Santa Monica

Mountains for 90

minutes or so. I'm glad I can do so, as I had a heart attack two months

ago. Luckily, I

recognized the symptoms and was operated on within 90 minutes. I now

have a stent in

one artery.



I was back - albeit slowly - on my bike five days later, with my

doctor's permission. Three

weeks later, after some tests, my doctor said to do whatever I wanted.



Too many sweets, family history, and stress probably played a role. The

only change I've

made in my lifestyle is to cut down the sweets and increase the

consumption of fruits,

vegetables and protein at the expense of those sweets. This has caused

me to lose some

weight, by the way, without even exercising, probably due in part, at

first, to muscle loss.



Now if it would just stop raining in Los Angeles, I would put some more

miles on my bike.

Today is beautiful, although chilly by S. California standards. And the

Santa Monicas, with

the Hollywood Sign clearly visible in the clean, clear air, beckon me to

them.



On tap for me for the rest of this year: two organized California

centuries (Solvang and

Chico), and perhaps the Tour of the California Alps, as well as lots of

rides with friends.

Most of the time, though, I plan to simply pedal up the steepest roads I

can find north of

my home in the flatlands, so that I can know I am still King of the

Mountain.











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Yup, I'm still here.

Still getting enough exercise in and drooling over the soon to be

upgrade to Campagnolo Super Record 11!

Yum yum.

Darren



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John Summerson

Sent: 12 February 2009 22:12

To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?







Dave, sorry to hear about your health issue but thankfully you still

ride (could be worse). As you likely know heart disease is ~50% due to

genetic factors so even some fit folks are at risk. I have been curious

about some of the Santa Monica climbs (I did Latigo Canyon Rd and few

others a few yrs ago) so any idea of the most difficult in that area??



JHS



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Subject: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?



Sometime last year I think I started this question. I wish this were a

more active forum.



In a few minutes I'm going to ride my bike up into the Santa Monica

Mountains for 90

minutes or so. I'm glad I can do so, as I had a heart attack two months

ago. Luckily, I

recognized the symptoms and was operated on within 90 minutes. I now

have a stent in

one artery.



I was back - albeit slowly - on my bike five days later, with my

doctor's permission. Three

weeks later, after some tests, my doctor said to do whatever I wanted.



Too many sweets, family history, and stress probably played a role. The

only change I've

made in my lifestyle is to cut down the sweets and increase the

consumption of fruits,

vegetables and protein at the expense of those sweets. This has caused

me to lose some

weight, by the way, without even exercising, probably due in part, at

first, to muscle loss.



Now if it would just stop raining in Los Angeles, I would put some more

miles on my bike.

Today is beautiful, although chilly by S. California standards. And the

Santa Monicas, with

the Hollywood Sign clearly visible in the clean, clear air, beckon me to

them.



On tap for me for the rest of this year: two organized California

centuries (Solvang and

Chico), and perhaps the Tour of the California Alps, as well as lots of

rides with friends.

Most of the time, though, I plan to simply pedal up the steepest roads I

can find north of

my home in the flatlands, so that I can know I am still King of the

Mountain.



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I am still here as well.  Climbing in the warmer weather, trainer this

winter.  Trying to do a bit of cycling writing for websites when time

permits and continuing to try to compile more US climbs for future

projects.  I am looking forward to the Tour of CA next week which

finally has a true hors climb on the route this year.  Should be

interesting...



JHS



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Nate Morgenstern

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:31 PM

To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?





The chatter does seem to have stopped on this list.  But I, as I presume

most, are still around, and riding in one form or another.  In my case,

from seeking out the toughest climbs in the NJ, NY, PA area and doing

competitive distance rides, setting some records, I've moved in USCA

racing, where I had a great 2008.  I still enjoy the hills, but haven't

gone out of my way looking for new ones in awhile.



Cheers...........Nate







> To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> From: fobusek@...

> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:28:37 -0800

> Subject: Re: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?

>

> I am here.  FaceBook seems to be the online place to hang out....maybe

we could start a KOM group there.  I'm still riding and loving the

climbs here in Western North Carolina USA.  I've been racing the last

several years and not enjoying the climbs as much as I used to, but I

can hear and feel them calling me back.....along with the mtn bike.  I

have not updated my Southern Appalachian Road Climbs website....been

wanting to do that, but just dont have the time right now.

http://www.mountainmapper.com/sarc.htm  But, maybe one day.

>

> Hope everyone is doing well.

>

> Frank

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Ivana <yvana@...>

> To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:15:07 AM

> Subject: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?

>

>

> Everyone is gone?

>

> Just rumbling through Yahoo memberships and checking on groups that

> I'd set on 'quiet'.

> Wouldn't you know that the last time I rode for more than 25K was

> slightly more than 6 years ago. Last substantial hills climbed was

> August 2003 when I participated in PBP (Paris-Brest- Paris).

> Alas, I've been unable to ride a bicycle for over 3 years after

> getting ill early 2004 (a rare bacterial infection in the spine and

> psoas muscle did me in).

>

> What really did me in was starting a business in 2005 (Pasio

> Ingredients) , buying a car (2006) and .. falling in love with both a

> guy and strength training. As of late 2008 even weight lifting.

> Looking & feeling better than ever before, but alas, cycling is

> not .. yet part of the equation.

>

> Revamped the bike though late October, but the cycling bug hasn't yet

> reinfected me.

> Anyone who can rekindle the fire? The only thing that inspires me now

> to resume cycling is the fact I'm at least 10kg lighter than before

> and would henceforth go up hills far more easily than before. Alas,

> leg strength also isn't what it used to be. For example, late 2003 I

> could leg press 220kg for 20 reps with 1 leg and for 40 reps with 2

> legs!  Now I full squat (ass to grass) 60kg, clean 40kg and snatch

> 30kg.

> In case anyone still doubts whether strength training has its'

> purpose for cycling, I saw a small video of Lance Armstrong doing a

> hang clean (not entirely perfect though, but hey he's not a weight

> lifter). Olympic lifting as well as just generic strength training

> (preferably free weights) can really offer a a truly wonderful

> strength base to improve on explosive strength.

>

> Oh well, I'll be quiet again. Will you be quiet too? Or is the group

> just dead and buried?

>

> Yvana

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I am still on the list.

Two years ago we moved away from climbs in New Hampshire to FLAT Ohio.

Now I am president of a local bike club (http://toledoareabicyclists.org/)

with 260 members.

Did do the Death Ride last year - it was very hard with just training in the

flats.



Nate - WHAT IS USCA RACING?



Jim House



-----Original Message-----

From: kom_@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kom_@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate

Morgenstern

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:31 PM

To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?





The chatter does seem to have stopped on this list.  But I, as I presume

most, are still around, and riding in one form or another.  In my case, from

seeking out the toughest climbs in the NJ, NY, PA area and doing competitive

distance rides, setting some records, I've moved in USCA racing, where I had

a great 2008.  I still enjoy the hills, but haven't gone out of my way

looking for new ones in awhile.



Cheers...........Nate







> To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> From: fobusek@...

> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:28:37 -0800

> Subject: Re: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?

>

> I am here.  FaceBook seems to be the online place to hang out....maybe we

could start a KOM group there.  I'm still riding and loving the climbs here

in Western North Carolina USA.  I've been racing the last several years and

not enjoying the climbs as much as I used to, but I can hear and feel them

calling me back.....along with the mtn bike.  I have not updated my Southern

Appalachian Road Climbs website....been wanting to do that, but just dont

have the time right now. http://www.mountainmapper.com/sarc.htm  But, maybe

one day.

>

> Hope everyone is doing well.

>

> Frank

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Ivana <yvana@...>

> To: kom_@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:15:07 AM

> Subject: [kom_] Re: Where is Everyone?

>

>

> Everyone is gone?

>

> Just rumbling through Yahoo memberships and checking on groups that

> I'd set on 'quiet'.

> Wouldn't you know that the last time I rode for more than 25K was

> slightly more than 6 years ago. Last substantial hills climbed was

> August 2003 when I participated in PBP (Paris-Brest- Paris).

> Alas, I've been unable to ride a bicycle for over 3 years after

> getting ill early 2004 (a rare bacterial infection in the spine and

> psoas muscle did me in).

>

> What really did me in was starting a business in 2005 (Pasio

> Ingredients) , buying a car (2006) and .. falling in love with both a

> guy and strength training. As of late 2008 even weight lifting.

> Looking & feeling better than ever before, but alas, cycling is not ..

> yet part of the equation.

>

> Revamped the bike though late October, but the cycling bug hasn't yet

> reinfected me.

> Anyone who can rekindle the fire? The only thing that inspires me now

> to resume cycling is the fact I'm at least 10kg lighter than before

> and would henceforth go up hills far more easily than before. Alas,

> leg strength also isn't what it used to be. For example, late 2003 I

> could leg press 220kg for 20 reps with 1 leg and for 40 reps with 2

> legs!  Now I full squat (ass to grass) 60kg, clean 40kg and snatch

> 30kg.

> In case anyone still doubts whether strength training has its'

> purpose for cycling, I saw a small video of Lance Armstrong doing a

> hang clean (not entirely perfect though, but hey he's not a weight

> lifter). Olympic lifting as well as just generic strength training

> (preferably free weights) can really offer a a truly wonderful

> strength base to improve on explosive strength.

>

> Oh well, I'll be quiet again. Will you be quiet too? Or is the group

> just dead and buried?

>

> Yvana

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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