Didn't take long to get this group active again so good to hear that
folks are still around. I recently returned from a New England trip
where I was able to get on some steep hills that I had never been on
before (Frank, I also was able to climb Beech Mt and Roan Mt (north
side) in Sept).

I would hope that this forum would be kept alive simply because of its
climbing discussions. As mentioned there are many cycling forums but
none that evolved around climbing specifically (at least that I am aware
of) which is my main interest within the sport.

On that note, I was approached to consider putting together a book about
road bike climbing, including listing the top US climbs in some fashion,
and was wondering if the interest level was out there. Anyone think
that information would be useful?

JHS

-----Original Message-----
From: kom_@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kom_@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Nige White
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:20 AM
To: kom_@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [kom_] Re: No posts

Brian Tomlin wrote:

>there are plenty of such forums around, and maybe that's part of why
>things are so quiet here now. But the atmosphere of most forums is
>different and you risk losing direct contact (or at least feeling) with

>prominent participants. Kom is more about Francois and Nigel than about

>Ventoux and Rosedale, if you get my drift.
>
>Other such groups are feeling the pinch too. My suggestion would be to
>merge with some similar group and try to regain critical mass without
>losing all identity.
>
>An obvious candidate is Eurobike, which is in many ways a sister group,

>with many common posters, very similar interests, fairly similar
>atmosphere, identical location on yahoogroups and similar (although not

>yet as severe) problem of declining volume of posts.
>Eurobike has a strong tradition of getting members together to ride and

>is also a bit more sophisticated about "forum" features like photos and

>votes. It might be a profitable marriage for both groups.
>The alternatives look bleak to me.
>
>Thoughts, anyone?
>
I know what you mean about the other forums available. They tend to be
racing-orientated, and look down upon touring, and riding just for fun!

They also seem not to take seriously issues which I take seriously such
as problems with motorized traffic.

The Yahoo groups web interface is very clunky compared to the more
modern forum software available. the php forum software used by
veloriders and others maintains threads ordered by date of last posting,
so that current discussions stay at the top of the first page until they
drift down.

A few cycling forums (cyclingplus.co.uk) have attracted resident
petrolhead trolls and have become unfriendly.

I like the idea of a merger with Eurobike - European touring appeals to
me.

Speaking of which, who wants to take over the Trento Bike Pages? Andreas
Caranti has stopped maintaining them, and nothing new has been put on
them for months!

Nigel

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