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Re: [kom_] Peak District Gran Fondo (UK) & Marmotte

E is over 40 years. Luc Alphand seems also interesting. Not extremely long,
but with finish on Granon not easy.

Jiri

> Sportcomm... does not keep its results on the site for very long, just a
> few months.
> You might find older results on dutch websites. Maybe Oege Hiddema would
> know where.
>
> La Galibier (had been "Louison Bobet" at one time) was discontinued largely
> due to traffic problems on the way back from Briançon to the Lautaret. Last
> edition was in 2000 i believe.
> In the Luc Alphand you climb Izoard and Granon to finish.
>
> What is cat E?
> Cheers
> François
>

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Sportcomm... does not keep its results on the site for very long, just a few months. You might find older results on dutch websites. Maybe Oege Hiddema would ...
Francois Siohan
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Jun 7, 2004
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E is over 40 years. Luc Alphand seems also interesting. Not extremely long, but with finish on Granon not easy. Jiri ... Jiri Sehnal...
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follow the critérium du dauphiné live on http://www.criterium.ledauphine.com/criterium04/index.php Cheers françois...
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Jun 8, 2004
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... Thanks Francois it's a very good site. But I can't find the start time - in particular for tomorrow June 10 Mont Ventoux. In the history they seem to miss...
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-55' is also my forecast, by Mayo (if no wind) why? 1999 was just after ... 1998, pharmacists were still scratching their head. Remember Charly Gaul did not...
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I noticed they start right at the bottom of the climb - an uphill TT for the pure climber. None of this 10 K of flats before the climb garbage like in ...
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... Not exactly sure what you mean., Francois. Yes I remember 1998 as the big EPO scandal. Are you saying they didn't know how Vaughters could go so fast w/o ...
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OK I'll be more explicit. In 1999, climbing performances were down quite a bit compared to 91-98 period. That does not mean racers were totally clean, but at...
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... Another rough comparison Gaul (1958) to Vaughters is a 5'30" improvement from 1h2 to 56m50s Looking at flat TT times comparing UK 25 mile TT record times ...
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Here is what i posted yesterday on the wattage list of topica.com I thought i would take pot shots from all sides due to my clear indications that doping has...
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Hi Francois, ... methods and ... It's also worth noting that amateur cyclists are much faster than they were 20 years ago, mainly thanks to increased...
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... Yes Brian, but real EFFECTIVE doping began with blood doping (LA Olympics 1984) and growth hormones in the mid 80's, and to a lesser extent corticoids,...
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... Hi Brian Simpson died from heatstoke. I was 1km up the road when it happened. The day was one of hottest ever. The tar was liquid on the road up from...
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... Yes Mike, but it is well known that amphetamines are extremely dangerous in the heat. He still had plenty of them in his pockets. Mallejac narrowly escaped...
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... wrote: Hi Francois It's also well-known that heatstroke is life threatening Mike ... the ... Ventoux....
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Mike wrote :; ... Mike Simpson died from cardiovascular collapse brought about by amphetamine abuse. There is a very nice article about Tom Simpson in...
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... wrote: Hi Francois Sure, can you scan it and attach to an e-mail. ... At the time most knowledgeable felt it was heat stroke, tho I remember a spectator in...
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... Oh. I forgot. I'm being thick-headed I know. So you're opining that drug use is on the increase again? Karol ============================== Karol E....
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... I'm reading between the lines here. You're saying that Jeff was doping and Lucho wasn't, right? Karol ============================== Karol E. Zielonko Jr. ...
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... Yes, Jef's carreer was full of suspicious up and downs. I have a hard time imagining Lucho, the man with a banana in his pocket (of his cycling jersey of...
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... Agreed. That is certainly true for the U.S, especially in the lower ranks. The average senior IV nowadays is riding so much faster than when I was a senior...
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http://www.criterium.ledauphine.com/criterium04/direct.php?etape=4...
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Ventoux TT Unofficial Mayo 55'51 Hamilton 56'26 Sevilla 56'54 Mercado 57'39 Armstrong 57'49 Leipheimer 59'12 Rasmussen 59'24 Moncoutié 59'50 François...
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i hope that Lance is sandbagging.....giving his adversaries a false sense of security. But, I have a suspicion that Mr. Mayo knows better. Hmmm.... I wonder...
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