thanks bud
i will try it that way and lmao i know what you mean about slamming
into the wet stuff it is a lot more forgiving than a beach
and your advice is a lot more useful than some comments i got
and your right water launch is a new exp for me but i should get the
hang of it quick
nice one again bud.
chris
--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, Steve <stevesgroups@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Dude -
>
> First off - make a control bar for one of your smaller 2-3 meter - four
> line stunt kites and play with it a bit. It's not much different but
> you'll save wear and tear on your X4. fronts go to your harness and
> rears to the bar ends. The biggest diff between that type of trainer
and
> a X4 is that on the X4 when you pull on the bar you get more power not
> less. You can't stall an X4 - so set up your line lengths so you can't
> stall the trainer kite to get the right feel
>
> 2nd - go look at some 5 line control bars - that's what you need.  They
> are pretty cheap these days -Your best bet is a Naish 5 line control
> bar.  Next would be some other brand. I like and use North bars on
Naish
> kites. Harness - if your waist is smaller than your chest get a waist
> harness.  If it is bigger get a seat harness.
>
> 3rd- don't start on land with the 16, there is no point - you know how
> to fly a kite right?  Get out in the water so if you get slammed you
hit
> water- much softer and what you need to learn right off is how to do a
> water relaunch, you've never had a kite that could do that.
>
> Steve
> Carson City, Nevada, USA
>
> lord_stone_monkey wrote:
> >
> > thanks for the advice even though i know your probably right i will
> > probably ignore it (i do that allot)
> > i had some lessons given to me for my "ehemh cough" birthday.lol but
> > theay went tits up as a company.
> > i am the kind of nut that grabs the bull by the horns much to the
> > amusement of my mates.
> > when i flew my nassa for the first time as i was dragged and bumped
> > over the rocks at llanaber north wales in A 15 mph of shore,
> > never used break lines before and didn't see the need for the things.
> > (any how the bruise that went down the right hand side of my body from
> > face to shin healed in about 5 or 6 weeks no biggy)
> > the reason i got my nassa was because the guy in the shop said the
> > smaller version killed a guy the week before.
> > (dragged him through a wall)
> > i was thinking YES REAL POWER as i handed him the cash.
> > i can fly and jump it now using my old climbing harness tied to my
> > bars lol bit daft i know but,
> > acting with out thinking can be entertaining at times.
> > using my nassa to power my kayak across the lake at bala when i lost
> > wind half way across, i ended up with a wet kite, and dumbo, thought
> > there was no need to take the paddle, so ended up swimming towing a
> > boat and 10 mtrs of soggy kite.
> > try it its kind of fun on a warm day.
> > so what can you advise to minimise death? lol
> > death makes you antisocial, i had a mate that caught death he never
> > comes round or calls any more.
> > having someone put me in the right direction would be nice so i dont
> > waist cash on stuff i dont need .
> > i do fully intend to use it on land before i take to the sea start off
> > small in ponds(on short lines) and work my way up.
> > and as for the safety of others i dont intend to have a crowd to watch
> > the fool for the first time (apart from me mate dave, my old climbing
> > partner, who takes great delight watching the stone monkey getting
> > banged up on rocks.
> > take it easy
> > chris
> >
> > --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com <mailto:kitesurf%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > George <ynotkite@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > I'm glad to hear you're getting (or getting back ) into flying
> > kites. However, much has
> > > changed over the years...
> > > Kitesurfing can be dangerous. Search on 'kiteforum.com' for
> > 'fatalities' and you'll see what
> > > I mean.
> > > For your safety (and the safety of others) and your enjoyment,
> > > I recommend that you take lessons first. Your life is valuable!
> > During the lessons, many of your
> > > questions will be answered, and the money you spend will be well
> > worth it...
> > >
> > >
> > > Have fun!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_monkey@>
> > > To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com <mailto:kitesurf%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:09:56 AM
> > > Subject: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E
L P plz
> > >
> > >
> > > HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish
x4 16m
> > > (off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
> > > flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33
years
> > > ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa
wing for
> > > my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
> > > the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
> > > before.
> > > TO THE QUESTION :
> > > can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
> > > kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
> > > And why you would recommend it.
> > > am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
> > > set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only
confuses the
> > > issue further.
> > > it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
> > > paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
> > > but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before
deciding
> > > to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years
wage on
> > > a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
> > > thanks in advance
> > > stone monkey
> > > chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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>

Chris,
 
First of all, I applaud you for your tenacity to hang in there and keep active
and enjoying
life despite your challenges.  That's awesome! 
 
Although 'loco4olas' expressed himself in a rather
harsh way, I think he (like myself) is concerned about people going out
without knowing what to do, injuring others, and closing down beaches
because of their carelessness.  We've seen this happen many times already
so kiters are now sensitive to this issue (again, just log onto 'kiteforum.com'
and
you'll see).
 
If you really meant what you wrote below:
 
......you got one life no rehearsals,
live it,
how ever you want,
as long as you dont harm, mess, or interfere with others lives unless
they want you to.

 
then you also know that your actions CAN affect other people, so please
be considerate.
 
 
George.



----- Original Message ----
From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_monkey@...>
To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 4:36:09 AM
Subject: Re: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E L P plz


aimed specifically at loco4olas
and to everyone else that reads this i apologise for my harsh tone in
advance
NO i aint a tough guy
i got Spina bifida and I laugh at that,and im dyslexic as well and
laugh at that to
will that do for you??? ..
(richard)
it is my disability that pushes me to enjoy myself and do these
things..IT HAS NOT TURNED ME INTO A FULL CRIPP YET BUT IT WILL.
OR am i supposed to sit in a bath chair on Hastings beach with a
blanket warped round my legs with all the other cripps??pleading with
god everyday to kill me now.
while i can, i will do all i can, for excitement and fun.
WHEN i can not stand no more to surf walk or ride my bike,
i can go back to my buggies or get a kite boat,give up climbing, and
carry on paddling,
things you can do with useless legs.
I wont be entering no ruining events.
Something i aint going to do is whine and bitch that i can not walk no
more.
crawl into a hole and say woe is me my life is over .
FCUK THAT

i came for advice not a lecture of some snotty nose rich kid
I was NOT laughing at a mates death or any ones for that matter. (i
did not know him but that is beside the point)
it was a recognition of the kites power.

you got no adventure ?
THE type of guy that hangs about on beaches that puts his kite up,
and never launches it?
with the excuses there is not enough/to much wind or you don't have
the correct kite with you or wrong set up cord to long /short
sitting on the beach full of your own self importance,
with the latest gear and board fashions.
AND without the balls to say what you say on line in real life.
you get people like that in all sports.
its like people that go to the gym to socialise,not to work out and
disturb you, when your trying to.

Question to you.
who taught the first guy to try kite surfing? or did he just "have a go"
where would the world be without pioneers?
no invention would have ever been invented with out the men to test
them (perhaps invented but not tested.) and you would not be on this
thing running of ya mouth

i go free climbing and white water kayaking in spain round la
coruna(galica) costa del morte (coast of death) as well.
so what's wrong with that in your opinion? you are bound to have one
your type always do.
nobody taught me to climb either,but im in e/3-4 climbing grades and
started off bouldering.
purchased a nice pair of mythos boots and headed for wales

sombody did teach me to Eskimo (ops sorry Inuit) role in me boat.
I had the 8th EVER DUEL LINE KITE SOLD IN UK (peter powell)in about
1973/4/5.(i forget exact date im getting old)it had the serial no of
8, wooden strutted yellow plastic bag type efort thing.
I got it from peter powell`s house before he had a factory and was a 1
man operation.
OH yes i tried paragliding as well but didn't like it.
im not saying any of this to try and make myself out to be a action man,
i aint,on the contrary,
but i will have a go and try anything once. twice if i like it .

you got one life no rehearsals,
live it,
how ever you want,
as long as you dont harm, mess, or interfere with others lives unless
they want you to.
OR You can sit on the beach watching every one ells

what's wrong with excepting death as part of life?
AND no i don't want to die or do i have a death wish.
its the only guarantee from the day your born in it,death.
As for laughing at it,what's the alternative crying about it? why
would you do that?

SO if you carnt say any thing constructive please stay silent as a
closed mouth gathers no foot.

sorry to the rest of you a noobie to the groop having a go at a regular
and if i get booted so be it.
but i aint a noobie to kites (about 35 years exp) the power of kites
or flying 4 lined kites.
just to bar flying and setting the thing up.
i understand water currents,thanks to kayaking from the age of 8 and a
bit of surfing (not much granted).

if nobody is prepaid to help that's fine.but i aint as mad as the
Italian that took it out in 150 mts swell was it?
then bit the bullet.
i would think 4 or 5 times before taking my boat out in that,
and i got loads of exp at that in Canada,Wales, Spain,France just to
name a few and nearly every beach i visit wherever it is.
sorry but (that richard) annoyed me.
C

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroup s.com, "loco4olas" <loco4olas@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> Hmmm-tough guy hey-laughs at death?
> How about quad or paraplegia-laugh at that too?
> You're not some tough guy hero-making wise cracks at your mate who died.
> You're just stupid-keep the fuck away from me at the beach-I'll be
the one saying "I told you so" when the ambos cart your fucked up body
off.
> Good luck fool-you'll need it.
> Good riddance.
>
>
> ************ ********* ***
>
>
>
> From: lord_stone_monkey
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:56 AM
> To: kitesurf@yahoogroup s.com
> Subject: Re: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E
L P plz
>
>
> thanks for the advice even though i know your probably right i will
> probably ignore it (i do that allot)
> i had some lessons given to me for my "ehemh cough" birthday.lol but
> theay went tits up as a company.
> i am the kind of nut that grabs the bull by the horns much to the
> amusement of my mates.
> when i flew my nassa for the first time as i was dragged and bumped
> over the rocks at llanaber north wales in A 15 mph of shore,
> never used break lines before and didn't see the need for the things.
> (any how the bruise that went down the right hand side of my body from
> face to shin healed in about 5 or 6 weeks no biggy)
> the reason i got my nassa was because the guy in the shop said the
> smaller version killed a guy the week before.
> (dragged him through a wall)
> i was thinking YES REAL POWER as i handed him the cash.
> i can fly and jump it now using my old climbing harness tied to my
> bars lol bit daft i know but,
> acting with out thinking can be entertaining at times.
> using my nassa to power my kayak across the lake at bala when i lost
> wind half way across, i ended up with a wet kite, and dumbo, thought
> there was no need to take the paddle, so ended up swimming towing a
> boat and 10 mtrs of soggy kite.
> try it its kind of fun on a warm day.
> so what can you advise to minimise death? lol
> death makes you antisocial, i had a mate that caught death he never
> comes round or calls any more.
> having someone put me in the right direction would be nice so i dont
> waist cash on stuff i dont need .
> i do fully intend to use it on land before i take to the sea start off
> small in ponds(on short lines) and work my way up.
> and as for the safety of others i dont intend to have a crowd to watch
> the fool for the first time (apart from me mate dave, my old climbing
> partner, who takes great delight watching the stone monkey getting
> banged up on rocks.
> take it easy
> chris
>
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroup s.com, George <ynotkite@> wrote:
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > I'm glad to hear you're getting (or getting back ) into flying
> kites. However, much has
> > changed over the years...
> > Kitesurfing can be dangerous. Search on 'kiteforum.com' for
> 'fatalities' and you'll see what
> > I mean.
> > For your safety (and the safety of others) and your enjoyment,
> > I recommend that you take lessons first. Your life is valuable!
> During the lessons, many of your
> > questions will be answered, and the money you spend will be well
> worth it...
> >
> >
> > Have fun!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_ monkey@>
> > To: kitesurf@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:09:56 AM
> > Subject: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E L
P plz
> >
> >
> > HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish x4 16m
> > (off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
> > flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33 years
> > ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa wing for
> > my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
> > the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
> > before.
> > TO THE QUESTION :
> > can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
> > kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
> > And why you would recommend it.
> > am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
> > set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only confuses the
> > issue further.
> > it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
> > paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
> > but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before deciding
> > to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years wage on
> > a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
> > thanks in advance
> > stone monkey
> > chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I agree.
its just the way the fool put it.
now for the hippy shit lol.
i usually use beaches witch are people void, as i hate crowdy beaches.
a beach with 10 people in a mile is pushing it for me(that's including
mates) i like the solitude to be with my own thoughts. and the sound
of the kite strings.
that's why i like sun rise and sun set, not so many people and i will
walk the extra mile or so to attain this, and as you know the winds
are obviously different.
i tend to keep of the main tourist routes,beaches and subsequently
have found a few beautiful spots around Europe, fer a beer,smoke and
launch a kite or boat especially round spain galica.
my other half is from that part of the world,her sisters still live
there,so do her folks moved back 15 years ago, and i got good mates there.
one of her sisters boyfriends is a fisherman and shown me some
beautiful beaches that the public don't use, that stretch for miles
not even a foot print only the ones you leave.
i spent 5 hours on one, left, and saw nobody,apart from the four of us.
i have got mate of mate in hastings (was @ mates wedding)that teaches
kite surfing.
( so to save any more trouble of you guys(light hearted ) or other
half(not so light hearted i have to live with her lol)

i will find out his number and give him a bell.
but i could still do with knowing what kit i will need to get so i can
turn up with working kit for kite
and he can then show me how to throw it together.

But PLEASE dont be thinking i aint got no respect for the wind or sea
or have any doubts that it can chew up and spit out bigger guys than me.
i know its concern for safety whether yours or mine.
but i can say almost 100%, i wouldn't be on the beach where you guys
are any how.(not meant in a nasty way)
cause the other thing i hate (apart from people lol) is politics.

it dont matter if it`s beach,county,country or world politics it all
crap.
i carnt change it no matter how many times i vote or who for.
so i keep away from it.
man `o` peace me lol and dont like fighting getting in the way of my
"out side thang" nd spoiling it,if on a mountain in a river or on the
beach.
i live in a well pollutid part of uk with wannabe 12 year old
gangsters roaming the streets trashing the aria and cars and
threatening other kids and adults with blades.
no threat to me but rather not have to deal with it.
I want to spend good quality peaceful time
not dealing with politics at all eva lol.
this is why im /we are considering a move to spain.

so any help you could give me with what kit to get before i contact my
mate (cause that in its self is a pain in the ass) would be helpful .
sod me i waffle lol
chris


--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, George <ynotkite@...> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> First of all, I applaud you for your tenacity to hang in there and
keep active and enjoying
> life despite your challenges.  That's awesome!
>
> Although 'loco4olas' expressed himself in a rather
> harsh way, I think he (like myself) is concerned about people going out
> without knowing what to do, injuring others, and closing down beaches
> because of their carelessness.  We've seen this happen many times
already
> so kiters are now sensitive to this issue (again, just log onto
'kiteforum.com' and
> you'll see).
>
> If you really meant what you wrote below:
>
> ......you got one life no rehearsals,
> live it,
> how ever you want,
> as long as you dont harm, mess, or interfere with others lives unless
> they want you to.
>
>
> then you also know that your actions CAN affect other people, so please
> be considerate.
>
>
> George.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_monkey@...>
> To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 4:36:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E
L P plz
>
>
> aimed specifically at loco4olas
> and to everyone else that reads this i apologise for my harsh tone in
> advance
> NO i aint a tough guy
> i got Spina bifida and I laugh at that,and im dyslexic as well and
> laugh at that to
> will that do for you??? ..
> (richard)
> it is my disability that pushes me to enjoy myself and do these
> things..IT HAS NOT TURNED ME INTO A FULL CRIPP YET BUT IT WILL.
> OR am i supposed to sit in a bath chair on Hastings beach with a
> blanket warped round my legs with all the other cripps??pleading with
> god everyday to kill me now.
> while i can, i will do all i can, for excitement and fun.
> WHEN i can not stand no more to surf walk or ride my bike,
> i can go back to my buggies or get a kite boat,give up climbing, and
> carry on paddling,
> things you can do with useless legs.
> I wont be entering no ruining events.
> Something i aint going to do is whine and bitch that i can not walk no
> more.
> crawl into a hole and say woe is me my life is over .
> FCUK THAT
>
> i came for advice not a lecture of some snotty nose rich kid
> I was NOT laughing at a mates death or any ones for that matter. (i
> did not know him but that is beside the point)
> it was a recognition of the kites power.
>
> you got no adventure ?
> THE type of guy that hangs about on beaches that puts his kite up,
> and never launches it?
> with the excuses there is not enough/to much wind or you don't have
> the correct kite with you or wrong set up cord to long /short
> sitting on the beach full of your own self importance,
> with the latest gear and board fashions.
> AND without the balls to say what you say on line in real life.
> you get people like that in all sports.
> its like people that go to the gym to socialise,not to work out and
> disturb you, when your trying to.
>
> Question to you.
> who taught the first guy to try kite surfing? or did he just "have a
go"
> where would the world be without pioneers?
> no invention would have ever been invented with out the men to test
> them (perhaps invented but not tested.) and you would not be on this
> thing running of ya mouth
>
> i go free climbing and white water kayaking in spain round la
> coruna(galica) costa del morte (coast of death) as well.
> so what's wrong with that in your opinion? you are bound to have one
> your type always do.
> nobody taught me to climb either,but im in e/3-4 climbing grades and
> started off bouldering.
> purchased a nice pair of mythos boots and headed for wales
>
> sombody did teach me to Eskimo (ops sorry Inuit) role in me boat.
> I had the 8th EVER DUEL LINE KITE SOLD IN UK (peter powell)in about
> 1973/4/5.(i forget exact date im getting old)it had the serial no of
> 8, wooden strutted yellow plastic bag type efort thing.
> I got it from peter powell`s house before he had a factory and was a 1
> man operation.
> OH yes i tried paragliding as well but didn't like it.
> im not saying any of this to try and make myself out to be a action
man,
> i aint,on the contrary,
> but i will have a go and try anything once. twice if i like it .
>
> you got one life no rehearsals,
> live it,
> how ever you want,
> as long as you dont harm, mess, or interfere with others lives unless
> they want you to.
> OR You can sit on the beach watching every one ells
>
> what's wrong with excepting death as part of life?
> AND no i don't want to die or do i have a death wish.
> its the only guarantee from the day your born in it,death.
> As for laughing at it,what's the alternative crying about it? why
> would you do that?
>
> SO if you carnt say any thing constructive please stay silent as a
> closed mouth gathers no foot.
>
> sorry to the rest of you a noobie to the groop having a go at a regular
> and if i get booted so be it.
> but i aint a noobie to kites (about 35 years exp) the power of kites
> or flying 4 lined kites.
> just to bar flying and setting the thing up.
> i understand water currents,thanks to kayaking from the age of 8 and a
> bit of surfing (not much granted).
>
> if nobody is prepaid to help that's fine.but i aint as mad as the
> Italian that took it out in 150 mts swell was it?
> then bit the bullet.
> i would think 4 or 5 times before taking my boat out in that,
> and i got loads of exp at that in Canada,Wales, Spain,France just to
> name a few and nearly every beach i visit wherever it is.
> sorry but (that richard) annoyed me.
> C
>
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroup s.com, "loco4olas" <loco4olas@ ..> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hmmm-tough guy hey-laughs at death?
> > How about quad or paraplegia-laugh at that too?
> > You're not some tough guy hero-making wise cracks at your mate who
died.
> > You're just stupid-keep the fuck away from me at the beach-I'll be
> the one saying "I told you so" when the ambos cart your fucked up body
> off.
> > Good luck fool-you'll need it.
> > Good riddance.
> >
> >
> > ************ ********* ***
> >
> >
> >
> > From: lord_stone_monkey
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:56 AM
> > To: kitesurf@yahoogroup s.com
> > Subject: Re: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E
> L P plz
> >
> >
> > thanks for the advice even though i know your probably right i will
> > probably ignore it (i do that allot)
> > i had some lessons given to me for my "ehemh cough" birthday.lol but
> > theay went tits up as a company.
> > i am the kind of nut that grabs the bull by the horns much to the
> > amusement of my mates.
> > when i flew my nassa for the first time as i was dragged and bumped
> > over the rocks at llanaber north wales in A 15 mph of shore,
> > never used break lines before and didn't see the need for the things.
> > (any how the bruise that went down the right hand side of my body from
> > face to shin healed in about 5 or 6 weeks no biggy)
> > the reason i got my nassa was because the guy in the shop said the
> > smaller version killed a guy the week before.
> > (dragged him through a wall)
> > i was thinking YES REAL POWER as i handed him the cash.
> > i can fly and jump it now using my old climbing harness tied to my
> > bars lol bit daft i know but,
> > acting with out thinking can be entertaining at times.
> > using my nassa to power my kayak across the lake at bala when i lost
> > wind half way across, i ended up with a wet kite, and dumbo, thought
> > there was no need to take the paddle, so ended up swimming towing a
> > boat and 10 mtrs of soggy kite.
> > try it its kind of fun on a warm day.
> > so what can you advise to minimise death? lol
> > death makes you antisocial, i had a mate that caught death he never
> > comes round or calls any more.
> > having someone put me in the right direction would be nice so i dont
> > waist cash on stuff i dont need .
> > i do fully intend to use it on land before i take to the sea start off
> > small in ponds(on short lines) and work my way up.
> > and as for the safety of others i dont intend to have a crowd to watch
> > the fool for the first time (apart from me mate dave, my old climbing
> > partner, who takes great delight watching the stone monkey getting
> > banged up on rocks.
> > take it easy
> > chris
> >
> > --- In kitesurf@yahoogroup s.com, George <ynotkite@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > I'm glad to hear you're getting (or getting back ) into flying
> > kites. However, much has
> > > changed over the years...
> > > Kitesurfing can be dangerous. Search on 'kiteforum.com' for
> > 'fatalities' and you'll see what
> > > I mean.
> > > For your safety (and the safety of others) and your enjoyment,
> > > I recommend that you take lessons first. Your life is valuable!
> > During the lessons, many of your
> > > questions will be answered, and the money you spend will be well
> > worth it...
> > >
> > >
> > > Have fun!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_ monkey@>
> > > To: kitesurf@yahoogroup s.com
> > > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:09:56 AM
> > > Subject: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E L
> P plz
> > >
> > >
> > > HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish
x4 16m
> > > (off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
> > > flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33
years
> > > ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa
wing for
> > > my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
> > > the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
> > > before.
> > > TO THE QUESTION :
> > > can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
> > > kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
> > > And why you would recommend it.
> > > am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
> > > set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only
confuses the
> > > issue further.
> > > it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
> > > paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
> > > but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before
deciding
> > > to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years
wage on
> > > a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
> > > thanks in advance
> > > stone monkey
> > > chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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>
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>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "Georgeiw@..." <georgeiw@...> wrote:
>
> Of course you can! Particularly when your kite breaks or the wind
dies
> and you are just swimming. Be safe
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2008, at 6:20 PM, "miquelor" <miquelor@...> wrote:
>
> > hey, anyone has had an encounter with a shark while kiting? the
area
> > where i kite has tiger sharks, but im not sure if you could be
> > attacked
> > while kiting
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
This is what can happen kiteboarding whit shark.Follow the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nza6d7-8NDc&feature=related

Only visiting family, but youtube has some wicked videos and my cousin
surfs a lot out there.

There was an article on Peru in 'Kitesurf' Magazine (UK) a couple of
months ago if you can get hold of a copy.

On 18 May 2008, at 00:32, zurferz wrote:

> hello, i would like some information on travelling to peru i heard
> about the north, is it windy enough? where do you recommend to stay?
>
>
>



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Hi;

Does anyone know if you can use a Cabrinha Omega 2007 bar on a Gaatra
Jekyll 2008 kite? I've got an Omega and have just ordered up a Jekyll
but prefer the bar on the Omega.

Kris

Hello fellow kiters,
I have been SUPsurfing (Stand Up Paddle surfing) as an alternative for
no-wind days.
I made a new website for people who want to know more or join the sport...

    http://www.supsurf.tv


...the site is in portuguese, but if you scroll down the main page you will
find a "english speaking visitors" section.

Good winds to all (and now good no wind days too!)

--
Tunico Lage

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Hey you stole my moniker !! so you owe me at least 6 x Antactica :-)

  Brian

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Suntrax
Tel/fax 27 (0)21 5560044
cell; 0824656696
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Tableview
Cape Town
www.suntrax.co.za
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Subject: [ksurf] New site...



   Hello fellow kiters,
   I have been SUPsurfing (Stand Up Paddle surfing) as an alternative for
   no-wind days.
   I made a new website for people who want to know more or join the sport...

   http://www.supsurf.tv

   ...the site is in portuguese, but if you scroll down the main page you will
   find a "english speaking visitors" section.

   Good winds to all (and now good no wind days too!)

   --
   Tunico Lage

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Hi, sorry for that. I think this moniker is under the "Creative Commons"
license...And what's that bellow your kiteloop? rails or Table Mountain?

2008/10/29 Brian Wilson <brian@...>

>   Hey you stole my moniker !! so you owe me at least 6 x Antactica :-)
>
> Brian
>
> (========o]></
>
> _/\/¯¯¯¯¯¯\--/\_
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Brian Wilson
> Suntrax
> Tel/fax 27 (0)21 5560044
> cell; 0824656696
> 13 Bayside Centre
> Tableview
> Cape Town
> www.suntrax.co.za
> info@... <info%40suntrax.co.za>
> Mon - Fri 9am-7.00pm
> Sat 9am-5pm
> Sun 9.30am- 2.00pm
>
> Subject: [ksurf] New site...
>
>
> Hello fellow kiters,
> I have been SUPsurfing (Stand Up Paddle surfing) as an alternative for
> no-wind days.
> I made a new website for people who want to know more or join the sport...
>
> http://www.supsurf.tv
>
> ...the site is in portuguese, but if you scroll down the main page you will
> find a "english speaking visitors" section.
>
> Good winds to all (and now good no wind days too!)
>
> --
> Tunico Lage
>
> (========o]></
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
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>



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Hi Everyone,

I have started a website called www.revingo.com <http://www.revingo.com>
which aims to be the largest online repository of user-created
kiteboarding equipment reviews (Kites, harnesses, boards).

Please take a minute of your time to rate your kitesurfing gear and if
its not on Revingo then you can easily add it by creating a new listing!

Please let me know what you think of the site, your feedback would be
greatly appreciated.

Happy Kitesurfing!

Sana



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"The corporate kitesurfer" is such a cool video !
Trading a day at the office for a day of kitesurfing..Priceless.
Check it out on www.kiteflix.com or youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpRoAgvYlfk
And if you like it, pass it along to your kite friends

Best location of Turkey for riding and learning. 
IKO instructors and latest school equipments
http://www.kiteboardgokova.com/ 
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I'm a novice and would like some input on the advisability of tethering
yourself to something immovable on the beach while learning to fly full-
sized kites without a "co-pilot".

I think that would be a very very very bad idea...get some lessons and lean the
right way....why risk hurting yourself
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Eric" <rhizuli@...>

Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:56:47
To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ksurf] Novice Question...what about beach tethers?


I'm a novice and would like some input on the advisability of tethering
yourself to something immovable on the beach while learning to fly full-
sized kites without a "co-pilot".





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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, Very bad idea
--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" <rhizuli@...> wrote:
>
> I'm a novice and would like some input on the advisability of
tethering
> yourself to something immovable on the beach while learning to fly
full-
> sized kites without a "co-pilot".
>

Nah good idea-if you wanná get ripped in half!


From: Eric
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:56 AM
To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ksurf] Novice Question...what about beach tethers?


I'm a novice and would like some input on the advisability of tethering
yourself to something immovable on the beach while learning to fly full-
sized kites without a "co-pilot".





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Hello everyone!
First of all, let me say I'm 25, have been kiting for 8 years and
instructing for the last two years in an insured and organized school.
(I have been instructing wakeboarding in the USA  but never mind. I'm
very proficient and refresh my knowledge constantly.) anyhow,
Israel is not affiliated with IKO, not for learning or instructing.
I use KTM's Methodology for my tutoring but I never took the test to
be legislated as an instructor.
I'm now contemplating instructing somewhere around the world; I wonder
if I must get IKO certification for that, or can I find places that
will satisfy with my expertise or by becoming a KTM certificate
Instructor.

Any information that can shed some light over the subject will be
deeply appreciated. I didn't got to kiteboard in many exotic places so
personal recommendations are welcome!

All the best,
Shachar.

To all of the fellow Kitesurfers in South-Africa, Mozambique and Namibia:
Surfstore.co.za, the fastest growing online Kite shop in Africa,
Kiteschool and distributor of Ozone Kiteboarding in South-Africa, is
recruiting! We are looking for local sales representatives, agents,
riders and Kitesurfing instructors in the following areas: West coast
of South-Africa, Cape Town, Port-Elizabeth, East-London, Johannesburg,
Durban, Namibia and Mozambique. Check it out on www.surfstore.co.za!
Cheers,
Patrice

http://www.surfstore.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=9&It\
emid=115

Who said that learning to Kitesurf is expensive? Maybe it is in some
places in the word, but it is definitely not in others. Check this out:
in Muizenberg (Cape Town) Suburb , one just teach you how to Kite-surf
for free! You would think then, what is wrong with people in Muizenberg?
Are they just too nice to ask for money, or do they just want to make
new friends instead of making money? Actually not, and they are even
pretty good in business, the deal being that they will pay back your
kitesurfing lessons when you purchase your first kite. Actually not a
bad deal as the kiteschool giving this deal is importing Ozone Kites
into South-Africa, and Ozone kites cost there averagely 25% less than
anywhere in the world... So at the end of the day, after claiming the
VAT back at the airport on your way back home at the end of your
holidays, you have learned hiow to kite-surf plus buy go back home with
a new kite for almost nothing!

Who said that Kite-surfing in not affordable?? ;)

Cheers



Here is the link to the Kite school if you don't believe me ;)

http://www.surfstore.co.za/ <http://www.surfstore.co.za/>


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connect to www.mazawindsurfing.blogspot.com

for watersports info in aisa...

buzzfeed info available too...RSS feed to ur website/blog...

mr_wolly

There are some great trips on offer by 35th Parallel for kitesurfing and
snowkiting - check out this great trip to Bali with Ben Wilson as your
instructor!

http://www.35th.com.au/adventure-tours/oceania/ben-wilson-bali-accelerator-kites\
urf-camp.html

Anyone got any other great spots that would be good for camps?  Ben and his team
are always looking for new destinations... good waves and wind are a must!

Hey,
check this out:  http://www.vimeo.com/4062680

14 years old Forest Bakker is training for PKRA tour in Tarifa Spain. Sponsored
notably by FLEXIFOIL  and KITADDICT-Ethical kitewear, he is going for a full
PKRA tour in 2009 after receiving the Rookie of the Year award PKRA 2008.

After only 2 years of practice ... he ROCKS !!!!!

You can check his website for more pics and videos: www.forestbakker.com

hello guys ,  any news about EVA rails ?

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Kitesurfing Video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9OZn2fNq_A/>

Tristan is one of the intructors at our Kitesurfing School Camber Sands
near London <http://www.thekitesurfcentre.com/>  and the camera work and
editing was done by a previous student



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no video! please repost, thx.

--- On Wed, 6/10/09, thekitesurfcentre <thekitesurfcentre@...> wrote:

From: thekitesurfcentre <thekitesurfcentre@...>
Subject: [ksurf] Wicked video with really cool editing
To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 3:33 AM



















Kitesurfing Video <http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=a9OZn2fNq_ A/>



Tristan is one of the intructors at our Kitesurfing School Camber Sands

near London <http://www.thekites urfcentre. com/>  and the camera work and

editing was done by a previous student



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> To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> From: hungvu2000@...
> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 01:26:16 +0000
> Subject: Re: RES: [ksurf] Fully sheet out kites - Windwing new system
>
>
>
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "hungvuatnetcomdotca"
> <hungvu2000@r...> wrote:
> > --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, georgeiw@a... wrote:
> > > The way the middle line goes from being a brake line to the B/A line
> > > regulator is similar to the way the lines work in the Cabrinha recon
> > system where the
> > > front and rear lines are a continuos loop with stoppers to lock it
> > into the
> > > powered position.
> >
> > I am not sure who comes up with the "back line/front line as a
> > continous loop" idea, Flysurfer or Cabrinha (in their RECON system),
> > but I can see that this idea can be used for a 100% fully sheet out
> > sled LEI kite (which of course eliminates the safety leash and
> > automatically flip the kite over on its back ready for relaunch)
> >
> > P.S., I do hope that the "back line/front line as a continous loop"
> > idea is not patented (I don't think it is as you need some very
> > specific application for patenting); otherwise, only one company can
> > built 100% fully sheet out sled LEI kite.
>
> Well, last year we discussed about this here and it looks like this
> year Windwing is coming out with a very similar system allowing 90% to
> 100% depowerable LEI (see
> http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2309240 )
>
> See how the "back line/front line as a continuous loop" and how "fully
> sheet out" the kite is?
>
> As usual, it normally discussed on the kitesurf group first and of
> course everything here is "patent free"...
>
> P.S., Note my prediction last year: "I do hope that the "back
> line/front line as a continous loop" idea is not patented (I don't
> think it is as you need some very specific application for patenting);
> otherwise, only one company can built 100% fully sheet out sled LEI
> kite" ?
>
> Hung.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
> to the most frequently asked questions.
>
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