thanks bud
i will try it that way and lmao i know what you mean about slamming
into the wet stuff it is a lot more forgiving than a beach
and your advice is a lot more useful than some comments i got
and your right water launch is a new exp for me but i should get the
hang of it quick
nice one again bud.
chris
--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, Steve <stevesgroups@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Dude -
>
> First off - make a control bar for one of your smaller 2-3 meter - four
> line stunt kites and play with it a bit. It's not much different but
> you'll save wear and tear on your X4. fronts go to your harness and
> rears to the bar ends. The biggest diff between that type of trainer
and
> a X4 is that on the X4 when you pull on the bar you get more power not
> less. You can't stall an X4 - so set up your line lengths so you can't
> stall the trainer kite to get the right feel
>
> 2nd - go look at some 5 line control bars - that's what you need.  They
> are pretty cheap these days -Your best bet is a Naish 5 line control
> bar.  Next would be some other brand. I like and use North bars on
Naish
> kites. Harness - if your waist is smaller than your chest get a waist
> harness.  If it is bigger get a seat harness.
>
> 3rd- don't start on land with the 16, there is no point - you know how
> to fly a kite right?  Get out in the water so if you get slammed you
hit
> water- much softer and what you need to learn right off is how to do a
> water relaunch, you've never had a kite that could do that.
>
> Steve
> Carson City, Nevada, USA
>
> lord_stone_monkey wrote:
> >
> > thanks for the advice even though i know your probably right i will
> > probably ignore it (i do that allot)
> > i had some lessons given to me for my "ehemh cough" birthday.lol but
> > theay went tits up as a company.
> > i am the kind of nut that grabs the bull by the horns much to the
> > amusement of my mates.
> > when i flew my nassa for the first time as i was dragged and bumped
> > over the rocks at llanaber north wales in A 15 mph of shore,
> > never used break lines before and didn't see the need for the things.
> > (any how the bruise that went down the right hand side of my body from
> > face to shin healed in about 5 or 6 weeks no biggy)
> > the reason i got my nassa was because the guy in the shop said the
> > smaller version killed a guy the week before.
> > (dragged him through a wall)
> > i was thinking YES REAL POWER as i handed him the cash.
> > i can fly and jump it now using my old climbing harness tied to my
> > bars lol bit daft i know but,
> > acting with out thinking can be entertaining at times.
> > using my nassa to power my kayak across the lake at bala when i lost
> > wind half way across, i ended up with a wet kite, and dumbo, thought
> > there was no need to take the paddle, so ended up swimming towing a
> > boat and 10 mtrs of soggy kite.
> > try it its kind of fun on a warm day.
> > so what can you advise to minimise death? lol
> > death makes you antisocial, i had a mate that caught death he never
> > comes round or calls any more.
> > having someone put me in the right direction would be nice so i dont
> > waist cash on stuff i dont need .
> > i do fully intend to use it on land before i take to the sea start off
> > small in ponds(on short lines) and work my way up.
> > and as for the safety of others i dont intend to have a crowd to watch
> > the fool for the first time (apart from me mate dave, my old climbing
> > partner, who takes great delight watching the stone monkey getting
> > banged up on rocks.
> > take it easy
> > chris
> >
> > --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com <mailto:kitesurf%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > George <ynotkite@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > I'm glad to hear you're getting (or getting back ) into flying
> > kites. However, much has
> > > changed over the years...
> > > Kitesurfing can be dangerous. Search on 'kiteforum.com' for
> > 'fatalities' and you'll see what
> > > I mean.
> > > For your safety (and the safety of others) and your enjoyment,
> > > I recommend that you take lessons first. Your life is valuable!
> > During the lessons, many of your
> > > questions will be answered, and the money you spend will be well
> > worth it...
> > >
> > >
> > > Have fun!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_monkey@>
> > > To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com <mailto:kitesurf%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:09:56 AM
> > > Subject: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E
L P plz
> > >
> > >
> > > HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish
x4 16m
> > > (off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
> > > flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33
years
> > > ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa
wing for
> > > my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
> > > the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
> > > before.
> > > TO THE QUESTION :
> > > can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
> > > kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
> > > And why you would recommend it.
> > > am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
> > > set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only
confuses the
> > > issue further.
> > > it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
> > > paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
> > > but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before
deciding
> > > to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years
wage on
> > > a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
> > > thanks in advance
> > > stone monkey
> > > chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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7/7/2008 7:40 AM
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>

aimed specifically at loco4olas
and to everyone else that reads this i apologise for my harsh tone in
advance
NO i aint a tough guy
i got Spina bifida and I laugh at that,and im dyslexic as well and
laugh at that to
will that do for you??? ..
(richard)
it is my disability that pushes me to enjoy myself and do these
things..IT HAS NOT TURNED ME INTO A FULL CRIPP YET BUT IT WILL.
  OR  am i supposed to sit in a bath chair on Hastings beach with a
blanket warped round my legs with all the other cripps??pleading with
god everyday to kill me now.
while i can, i will do all i can, for excitement and fun.
WHEN i can not stand no more to surf walk or ride my bike,
i can go back to my buggies or get a kite boat,give up climbing, and
carry on paddling,
things you can do with useless legs.
I wont be entering no ruining events.
Something i aint going to do is whine and bitch that i can not walk no
more.
crawl into a hole and say woe is me my life is over .
FCUK THAT

i came for advice not a lecture of some snotty nose rich kid
  I was NOT laughing at a mates death or any ones for that matter. (i
did not know him but that is beside the point)
it was a recognition of the kites power.

you got no adventure ?
THE type of guy that hangs about on beaches that puts his kite up,
and never launches it?
with the excuses there is not enough/to much wind or you don't have
the correct kite with you or wrong set up cord to long /short
sitting on the beach full of your own self importance,
with the latest gear and board fashions.
AND without the balls to say what you say on line in real life.
you get people like that in all sports.
its like people that go to the gym to socialise,not to work out and
disturb you, when your trying to.

Question to you.
who taught the first guy to try kite surfing? or did he just "have a go"
where would the world be without pioneers?
no invention would have ever been invented with out the men to test
them (perhaps invented but not tested.) and you would not be on this
thing running of ya mouth

i go free climbing and white water kayaking in spain round la
coruna(galica)costa del morte (coast of death) as well.
so what's wrong with that in your opinion? you are bound to have one
your type always do.
nobody taught me to climb either,but im in e/3-4 climbing grades and
started off bouldering.
purchased a nice pair of mythos boots and headed for wales

sombody did teach me to Eskimo (ops sorry Inuit) role in me boat.
I had the 8th EVER DUEL LINE KITE SOLD IN UK (peter powell)in about
1973/4/5.(i forget exact date im getting old)it had the serial no of
8, wooden strutted yellow plastic bag type efort thing.
I got it from peter powell`s house before he had a factory and was a 1
man operation.
OH yes i tried paragliding as well but didn't like it.
im not saying any of this to try and make myself out to be a action man,
i aint,on the contrary,
but i will have a go and try anything once. twice if i like it .

you got one life no rehearsals,
live it,
how ever you want,
as long as you dont harm, mess, or interfere with others lives unless
they want you to.
OR You can sit on the beach watching every one ells

what's wrong with excepting death as part of life?
AND no i don't want to die or do i have a death wish.
its the only guarantee from the day your born in it,death.
As for laughing at it,what's the alternative crying about it? why
would you do that?

SO if you carnt say any thing constructive please stay silent as a
closed mouth gathers no foot.

sorry to the rest of you a noobie to the groop having a go at a regular
and if i get booted so be it.
but i aint a noobie to kites (about 35 years exp) the power of kites
or flying 4 lined kites.
just to bar flying and setting the thing up.
i understand water currents,thanks to kayaking from the age of 8 and a
bit of surfing (not much granted).

if nobody is prepaid to help that's fine.but i aint as mad as the
Italian that took it out in 150 mts swell was it?
then bit the bullet.
i would think 4 or 5 times before taking my boat out in that,
and i got loads of exp at that in Canada,Wales,Spain,France just to
name a few  and nearly every beach i visit wherever it is.
sorry but (that richard) annoyed me.
C

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "loco4olas" <loco4olas@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hmmm-tough guy hey-laughs at death?
> How about quad or paraplegia-laugh at that too?
> You're not some tough guy hero-making wise cracks at your mate who died.
> You're just stupid-keep the fuck away from me at the beach-I'll be
the one saying "I told you so" when the ambos cart your fucked up body
off.
> Good luck fool-you'll need it.
> Good riddance.
>
>
> ************************
>
>
>
> From: lord_stone_monkey
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:56 AM
> To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E
L P plz
>
>
> thanks for the advice even though i know your probably right i will
> probably ignore it (i do that allot)
> i had some lessons given to me for my "ehemh cough" birthday.lol but
> theay went tits up as a company.
> i am the kind of nut that grabs the bull by the horns much to the
> amusement of my mates.
> when i flew my nassa for the first time as i was dragged and bumped
> over the rocks at llanaber north wales in A 15 mph of shore,
> never used break lines before and didn't see the need for the things.
> (any how the bruise that went down the right hand side of my body from
> face to shin healed in about 5 or 6 weeks no biggy)
> the reason i got my nassa was because the guy in the shop said the
> smaller version killed a guy the week before.
> (dragged him through a wall)
> i was thinking YES REAL POWER as i handed him the cash.
> i can fly and jump it now using my old climbing harness tied to my
> bars lol bit daft i know but,
> acting with out thinking can be entertaining at times.
> using my nassa to power my kayak across the lake at bala when i lost
> wind half way across, i ended up with a wet kite, and dumbo, thought
> there was no need to take the paddle, so ended up swimming towing a
> boat and 10 mtrs of soggy kite.
> try it its kind of fun on a warm day.
> so what can you advise to minimise death? lol
> death makes you antisocial, i had a mate that caught death he never
> comes round or calls any more.
> having someone put me in the right direction would be nice so i dont
> waist cash on stuff i dont need .
> i do fully intend to use it on land before i take to the sea start off
> small in ponds(on short lines) and work my way up.
> and as for the safety of others i dont intend to have a crowd to watch
> the fool for the first time (apart from me mate dave, my old climbing
> partner, who takes great delight watching the stone monkey getting
> banged up on rocks.
> take it easy
> chris
>
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, George <ynotkite@> wrote:
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > I'm glad to hear you're getting (or getting back ) into flying
> kites. However, much has
> > changed over the years...
> > Kitesurfing can be dangerous. Search on 'kiteforum.com' for
> 'fatalities' and you'll see what
> > I mean.
> > For your safety (and the safety of others) and your enjoyment,
> > I recommend that you take lessons first. Your life is valuable!
> During the lessons, many of your
> > questions will be answered, and the money you spend will be well
> worth it...
> >
> >
> > Have fun!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_monkey@>
> > To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:09:56 AM
> > Subject: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E L
P plz
> >
> >
> > HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish x4 16m
> > (off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
> > flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33 years
> > ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa wing for
> > my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
> > the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
> > before.
> > TO THE QUESTION :
> > can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
> > kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
> > And why you would recommend it.
> > am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
> > set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only confuses the
> > issue further.
> > it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
> > paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
> > but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before deciding
> > to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years wage on
> > a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
> > thanks in advance
> > stone monkey
> > chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hmmm-tough guy hey-laughs at death?
How about quad or paraplegia-laugh at that too?
You're not some tough guy hero-making wise cracks at your mate who died.
You're just stupid-keep the fuck away from me at the beach-I'll be the one
saying "I told you so" when the ambos cart your fucked up body off.
Good luck fool-you'll need it.
Good riddance.


************************



From: lord_stone_monkey
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:56 AM
To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E L P plz


thanks for the advice even though i know your probably right i will
probably ignore it (i do that allot)
i had some lessons given to me for my "ehemh cough" birthday.lol but
theay went tits up as a company.
i am the kind of nut that grabs the bull by the horns much to the
amusement of my mates.
when i flew my nassa for the first time as i was dragged and bumped
over the rocks at llanaber north wales in A 15 mph of shore,
never used break lines before and didn't see the need for the things.
(any how the bruise that went down the right hand side of my body from
face to shin healed in about 5 or 6 weeks no biggy)
the reason i got my nassa was because the guy in the shop said the
smaller version killed a guy the week before.
(dragged him through a wall)
i was thinking YES REAL POWER as i handed him the cash.
i can fly and jump it now using my old climbing harness tied to my
bars lol bit daft i know but,
acting with out thinking can be entertaining at times.
using my nassa to power my kayak across the lake at bala when i lost
wind half way across, i ended up with a wet kite, and dumbo, thought
there was no need to take the paddle, so ended up swimming towing a
boat and 10 mtrs of soggy kite.
try it its kind of fun on a warm day.
so what can you advise to minimise death? lol
death makes you antisocial, i had a mate that caught death he never
comes round or calls any more.
having someone put me in the right direction would be nice so i dont
waist cash on stuff i dont need .
i do fully intend to use it on land before i take to the sea start off
small in ponds(on short lines) and work my way up.
and as for the safety of others i dont intend to have a crowd to watch
the fool for the first time (apart from me mate dave, my old climbing
partner, who takes great delight watching the stone monkey getting
banged up on rocks.
take it easy
chris

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, George <ynotkite@...> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I'm glad to hear you're getting (or getting back ) into flying
kites. However, much has
> changed over the years...
> Kitesurfing can be dangerous. Search on 'kiteforum.com' for
'fatalities' and you'll see what
> I mean.
> For your safety (and the safety of others) and your enjoyment,
> I recommend that you take lessons first. Your life is valuable!
During the lessons, many of your
> questions will be answered, and the money you spend will be well
worth it...
>
>
> Have fun!
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_monkey@...>
> To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:09:56 AM
> Subject: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E L P plz
>
>
> HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish x4 16m
> (off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
> flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33 years
> ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa wing for
> my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
> the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
> before.
> TO THE QUESTION :
> can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
> kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
> And why you would recommend it.
> am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
> set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only confuses the
> issue further.
> it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
> paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
> but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before deciding
> to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years wage on
> a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
> thanks in advance
> stone monkey
> chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Hi Mike - please send photos, google maps link etc - thanks


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mike03812
	 Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 2:53 AM
	 To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
	 Subject: [ksurf] Beach House, Oliva Beach Spain. Kiteboard Mecca.



	 Has to be sold (sob sob). Great pad with loads of space for parking
	 and storage of gear. 2 bedrooms, large lounge/diner/kitchen. Private
	 access to beach, secure gate to road access. Brick built garden store.
	 Internal staircase to large roof solarium for private tanning or more
	 safe board storage. great weather. Use your board 12 MONTHS A YEAR.
	 Perfectly rentable. Why not form a syndicate. This property is
	 freehold, clean and currently English owned. Totally rebuilt 4 years
	 ago and in perfect condition. Private sale, no sharks involved.
	 For photos e-mail 47mike2@... <mailto:47mike2%40gmail.com>
	 Reduced from â'¬235,000. to â'¬175,000 negotiable. Must be sold!!
	 Oliva beach just north of Denia is a perfect location. There is also a
	 kite surfing school here too as well as wind surfers.
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Hey Dude -

First off - make a control bar for one of your smaller 2-3 meter - four
line stunt kites and play with it a bit. It's not much different but
you'll save wear and tear on your X4. fronts go to your harness and
rears to the bar ends. The biggest diff between that type of trainer and
a X4 is that on the X4 when you pull on the bar you get more power not
less. You can't stall an X4 - so set up your line lengths so you can't
stall the trainer kite to get the right feel

2nd - go look at some 5 line control bars - that's what you need.  They
are pretty cheap these days -Your best bet is a Naish 5 line control
bar.  Next would be some other brand. I like and use North bars on Naish
kites. Harness - if your waist is smaller than your chest get a waist
harness.  If it is bigger get a seat harness.

3rd- don't start on land with the 16, there is no point - you know how
to fly a kite right?  Get out in the water so if you get slammed you hit
water- much softer and what you need to learn right off is how to do a
water relaunch, you've never had a kite that could do that.

Steve
Carson City, Nevada, USA

lord_stone_monkey wrote:
>
> thanks for the advice even though i know your probably right i will
> probably ignore it (i do that allot)
> i had some lessons given to me for my "ehemh cough" birthday.lol but
> theay went tits up as a company.
> i am the kind of nut that grabs the bull by the horns much to the
> amusement of my mates.
> when i flew my nassa for the first time as i was dragged and bumped
> over the rocks at llanaber north wales in A 15 mph of shore,
> never used break lines before and didn't see the need for the things.
> (any how the bruise that went down the right hand side of my body from
> face to shin healed in about 5 or 6 weeks no biggy)
> the reason i got my nassa was because the guy in the shop said the
> smaller version killed a guy the week before.
> (dragged him through a wall)
> i was thinking YES REAL POWER as i handed him the cash.
> i can fly and jump it now using my old climbing harness tied to my
> bars lol bit daft i know but,
> acting with out thinking can be entertaining at times.
> using my nassa to power my kayak across the lake at bala when i lost
> wind half way across, i ended up with a wet kite, and dumbo, thought
> there was no need to take the paddle, so ended up swimming towing a
> boat and 10 mtrs of soggy kite.
> try it its kind of fun on a warm day.
> so what can you advise to minimise death? lol
> death makes you antisocial, i had a mate that caught death he never
> comes round or calls any more.
> having someone put me in the right direction would be nice so i dont
> waist cash on stuff i dont need .
> i do fully intend to use it on land before i take to the sea start off
> small in ponds(on short lines) and work my way up.
> and as for the safety of others i dont intend to have a crowd to watch
> the fool for the first time (apart from me mate dave, my old climbing
> partner, who takes great delight watching the stone monkey getting
> banged up on rocks.
> take it easy
> chris
>
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com <mailto:kitesurf%40yahoogroups.com>,
> George <ynotkite@...> wrote:
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > I'm glad to hear you're getting (or getting back ) into flying
> kites. However, much has
> > changed over the years...
> > Kitesurfing can be dangerous. Search on 'kiteforum.com' for
> 'fatalities' and you'll see what
> > I mean.
> > For your safety (and the safety of others) and your enjoyment,
> > I recommend that you take lessons first. Your life is valuable!
> During the lessons, many of your
> > questions will be answered, and the money you spend will be well
> worth it...
> >
> >
> > Have fun!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_monkey@...>
> > To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com <mailto:kitesurf%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:09:56 AM
> > Subject: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E L P plz
> >
> >
> > HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish x4 16m
> > (off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
> > flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33 years
> > ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa wing for
> > my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
> > the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
> > before.
> > TO THE QUESTION :
> > can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
> > kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
> > And why you would recommend it.
> > am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
> > set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only confuses the
> > issue further.
> > it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
> > paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
> > but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before deciding
> > to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years wage on
> > a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
> > thanks in advance
> > stone monkey
> > chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
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thanks for the advice even though i know your probably right i will
probably ignore it (i do that allot)
i had some lessons given to me for my "ehemh cough" birthday.lol but
theay went tits up as a company.
i am the kind of nut that grabs the bull by the horns much to the
amusement of my mates.
when i flew my nassa for the first time as i was dragged and bumped
over the rocks at llanaber north wales in A 15 mph of shore,
never used break lines before and didn't see the need for the things.
(any how the bruise that went down the right hand side of my body from
face to shin healed in about 5 or 6 weeks no biggy)
the reason i got my nassa was because the guy in the shop said the
smaller version killed a guy the week before.
(dragged him through a wall)
i was thinking YES REAL POWER as i handed him the cash.
i can fly and jump it now using my old climbing harness tied to my
bars lol bit daft i know but,
acting with out thinking can be entertaining at times.
using my nassa to power my kayak across the lake at bala when i  lost
wind half way across, i ended up with a wet kite, and dumbo, thought
there was no need to take the paddle, so ended up swimming towing a
boat and 10 mtrs of soggy kite.
try it its kind of fun on a warm day.
so what can you advise to minimise death? lol
death makes you antisocial, i had a mate that caught death he never
comes round or calls any more.
having someone put me in the right direction would be nice so i dont
waist cash on stuff i dont need  .
i do fully intend to use it on land before i take to the sea start off
small in ponds(on short lines) and work my way up.
and as for the safety of others i dont intend to have a crowd to watch
the fool for the first time (apart from me mate dave, my old climbing
partner, who takes great delight watching the stone monkey getting
banged up on rocks.
take it easy
chris


--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, George <ynotkite@...> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I'm glad to hear you're getting (or getting back ) into flying
kites.  However, much has
> changed over the years...
> Kitesurfing can be dangerous.  Search on 'kiteforum.com' for
'fatalities' and you'll see what
> I mean.
>  For your safety (and the safety of others) and your enjoyment,
> I recommend that you take lessons first.  Your life is valuable!
During the lessons, many of your
> questions will be answered, and the money you spend will be well
worth it...
>
>
> Have fun!
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_monkey@...>
> To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:09:56 AM
> Subject: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E L P plz
>
>
> HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish x4 16m
> (off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
> flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33 years
> ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa wing for
> my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
> the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
> before.
> TO THE QUESTION :
> can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
> kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
> And why you would recommend it.
> am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
> set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only confuses the
> issue further.
> it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
> paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
> but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before deciding
> to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years wage on
> a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
> thanks in advance
> stone monkey
> chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Chris,
 
I'm glad to hear you're getting (or getting back ) into flying kites.  However,
much has
changed over the years... 
Kitesurfing can be dangerous.  Search on 'kiteforum.com' for 'fatalities' and
you'll see what
I mean.
 For your safety (and the safety of others) and your enjoyment,
I recommend that you take lessons first.  Your life is valuable!  During the
lessons, many of your
questions will be answered, and the money you spend will be well worth it...
 
 
Have fun!
 


 
----- Original Message ----
From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_monkey@...>
To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:09:56 AM
Subject: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E L P plz


HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish x4 16m
(off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33 years
ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa wing for
my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
before.
TO THE QUESTION :
can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
And why you would recommend it.
am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only confuses the
issue further.
it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before deciding
to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years wage on
a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
thanks in advance
stone monkey
chris






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HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish x4 16m
(off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33 years
ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa wing for
my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
before.
TO THE QUESTION :
can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
And why you would recommend it.
am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only confuses the
issue further.
it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before deciding
to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years wage on
a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
thanks in advance
stone monkey
chris

updated blog at

www.mazawindsurfing.blogspot.com

www.maza-uefa.blogspot.com

tks

mr_wolly

Has to be sold (sob sob). Great pad with loads of space for parking
and storage of gear. 2 bedrooms, large lounge/diner/kitchen. Private
access to beach, secure gate to road access. Brick built garden store.
Internal staircase to large roof solarium for private tanning or more
safe board storage. great weather. Use your board 12 MONTHS A YEAR.
Perfectly rentable. Why not form a syndicate. This property is
freehold, clean and currently English owned. Totally rebuilt 4 years
ago and in perfect condition. Private sale, no sharks involved.
For photos e-mail 47mike2@...
Reduced from €235,000. to €175,000 negotiable. Must be sold!!
Oliva beach just north of Denia is a perfect location. There is also a
kite surfing school here too as well as wind surfers.
I AM JUST TOO OLD NOW.

Hey,
There is a great kite spot in Gokova-Turkey.
3.5 km sandy beach and 150 shallow sandy bottom.
14-22 knots onshore-crossshore wind between may-nowember. 
Only 35 minutes from Dalaman Airport and very close to Marmaris night life.
You can contact with local riders from http://www.kiteboardgokova.com/ 
 




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hello everyone , i went to this gorgeous place in the nortth of peru,
check out this place its for sale:
www.hotelsforsale.com/index.php?action=listingview&listingID=2934....


the place is right infront an amazing kite point and perfect waves.

i recomend you all to go!

kevin

hei guys....

am doin a bit for charity & helping out the Children's Society in my
community. Am seeking for donations for the kids at the shelter.

ALL donations directed to the organisation.

go to my blog...

http://www.mazawindsurfing.blogspot.com

wch has a link to the organisation.

Tks guys...

Ur contribution is greatly appreciated.

Mr_Wolly

www.thekitehouse.com  I have video and seq photos on self landing and
more. I have been on the 9, 11, 13 and 16 for awhile.

ask me any questions

Aloha  Paul

Hei dudes & dudettes....

Am doing a survey on the best watersport in the world. Come check out

my blog at...http://mazawindsurfing.blogspot.com/

& vote...

Am wondering if kitesurfing is going to overtake surfing or windsurfing

as the No 1 watersport thrill...EVER!?

hello, i would like some information on travelling to peru i heard
about the north, is it windy enough? where do you recommend to stay?

Hummm...the video only shows the riders, not the kites. The only photo
of the kite is a poorly photoshoped image of a kite with some
bridles...
I would stay away!

[]´s
Tunico

2008/5/14 CATTLEBONE <cattlebone@...>:
>
>
> anyone ever hear of this company? wholesale pricing...not sure whether
> or not the kites are good. probably get what you pay for...
>
> www.dogtownkites.com
>
>



--
Antonio Lage

  (========o]></

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I saw quite a few at Kailua beach in January of this year....
Dean


On May 14, 2008, at 11:52 AM, CATTLEBONE wrote:

>
>
> anyone ever hear of this company? wholesale pricing...not sure whether
> or not the kites are good. probably get what you pay for...
>
> www.dogtownkites.com
>
>
>



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anyone ever hear of this company? wholesale pricing...not sure whether
or not the kites are good. probably get what you pay for...

www.dogtownkites.com

Someone sent me this no wind alternative?



http://wakekite.com <http://wakekite.com/>



Hung.





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I am brand new to kiteboarding and wondering if anyone goes out to Lake
Mead or Mohave?  Are there anyshops giving lessons down here?

Hiya

If I recall correctly, there was a report about 2Y back regarding a kiter
who had his board bitten by a great white off Durban (South Africa) during a
down wind race - he survived with no injuries. If you have seen the video
clips / foto's taken around Cape Agullas area of Great Whites attacking live
seals and a dummy seal towed behind a ski-boat - then imagine how attractive
a nice coloured board must look silhouetted against the surface with nice
speed curves, or even better those nice yummy legs hanging down whilst body
dragging towards yr board!!



Good news is that they generally stay away from aerated water, so stay
inside the surf zone and avoid drop-offs where they like to lurk waiting for
the seals returning from feeding inside the surf zone.



The kiters in Richards Bay, Durban, East London and Muizenburg for sure must
have some experience with Da Whitey and may have some stories / tips.

Cheers



From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Niall Macken, IDE Inc.
Sent: 01 April 2008 10:58 PM
To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ksurf] shark phobia



Hi

I Kitesurf at Waddell Creek (California). Now the Landlord is the Great
White who is feeding mostly on Elephant Seal pups at Ano Nuevo north
about a mile. But I am sure they do cruise by south. I havent seen one.
But they have been sighted along the coast. No one as far as I know has
had issues. I do however think about it sometimes while kiting or
surfing and when I go to China I NEVER eat sharks-fin-soup...bad karma.

nm

Gabe Le wrote:
>
> mostly probably not attacked when kiting, but I can imagine sharks
> could attack some butt which is hangin' too long in the water :D
> kidding asside: while the rider is in water (mostly shallow, right?)
> and sharks are near, anything can happen. These creatures are very
> curious, and they react also to splashes (which kitesurfers do).
>
> I personally haven't heard yet of kitesurfers nor windsurfers being
> attacked.
> Nevertheless, knowing an area which HAS sharkies, I'd stay away from
> there.
>
> Anybody else?
>
> Gabe
>
> miquelor <miquelor@... <mailto:miquelor%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:miquelor%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> hey, anyone has had an encounter with a shark while kiting? the area
> where i kite has tiger sharks, but im not sure if you could be attacked
> while kiting
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of
> Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

--

*/Niall Macken, /*/BSME, /

/Senior Project Manager./

*/IDE Incorporated./*

/Product Design & Development/

/269 Mt. Hermon Road, Suite 206/

/Scotts Valley, CA 95066/

/USA/

/831-438-2888 (Voice)/

/831-438-5448 (Fax)/

/www.ideinc.com/ <http://www.ideinc.com>

/nmacken@... <mailto:%2Fnmacken%40ideinc.com>
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Of course you can! Particularly when your kite breaks or the wind dies
and you are just swimming. Be safe


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 31, 2008, at 6:20 PM, "miquelor" <miquelor@...> wrote:

> hey, anyone has had an encounter with a shark while kiting? the area
> where i kite has tiger sharks, but im not sure if you could be
> attacked
> while kiting
>
>
>


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Hi

I Kitesurf at Waddell Creek (California). Now the Landlord is the Great
White who is feeding mostly on Elephant Seal pups at Ano Nuevo north
about a mile. But I am sure they do cruise by south. I havent seen one.
But they have been sighted along the coast. No one as far as I know has
had issues. I do however think about it sometimes while kiting or
surfing and when I go to China I NEVER eat sharks-fin-soup...bad karma.

nm

Gabe Le wrote:
>
> mostly probably not attacked when kiting, but I can imagine sharks
> could attack some butt which is hangin' too long in the water :D
> kidding asside: while the rider is in water (mostly shallow, right?)
> and sharks are near, anything can happen. These creatures are very
> curious, and they react also to splashes (which kitesurfers do).
>
> I personally haven't heard yet of kitesurfers nor windsurfers being
> attacked.
> Nevertheless, knowing an area which HAS sharkies, I'd stay away from
> there.
>
> Anybody else?
>
> Gabe
>
> miquelor <miquelor@... <mailto:miquelor%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> hey, anyone has had an encounter with a shark while kiting? the area
> where i kite has tiger sharks, but im not sure if you could be attacked
> while kiting
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of
> Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

--



*/Niall Macken, /*/BSME, /

/Senior Project Manager./



*/IDE Incorporated./*

/Product Design & Development/

/269 Mt. Hermon Road, Suite 206/

/Scotts Valley, CA 95066/

/USA/

/831-438-2888 (Voice)/

/831-438-5448 (Fax)/

/www.ideinc.com/ <http://www.ideinc.com>

/nmacken@... <mailto:nmacken@...>/





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mostly probably not attacked when kiting, but I can imagine sharks could attack
some butt which is hangin' too long in the water :D
kidding asside: while the rider is in water (mostly shallow, right?) and sharks
are near, anything can happen. These creatures are very curious, and they react
also to splashes (which kitesurfers do).

I personally haven't heard yet of kitesurfers nor windsurfers being attacked.
Nevertheless, knowing an area which HAS sharkies, I'd stay away from there.

Anybody else?

Gabe

miquelor <miquelor@...> wrote:                             hey, anyone has
had an encounter with a shark while kiting? the area
  where i kite has tiger sharks, but im not sure if you could be attacked
  while kiting






---------------------------------
You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total
Access, No Cost.

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hey, anyone has had an encounter with a shark while kiting? the area
where i kite has tiger sharks, but im not sure if you could be attacked
while kiting

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