-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  KPWT Press Release 2006
Date:  Sun, 14 May 2006 10:23:24 +0200
From:  KPWT <kiteboarding@...>
To:  <kiteboarding@...>



2006 Kiteboard Pro World Tour - since 1999
FIAT Freestyle Kiteboard World Cup
Colico Fun Center, Cremia - Como Lake - Italy
27 May / 4 June -  Freestyle - Speed Crossing - Super Session - Sliders

FIAT  HANG TIME
FIAT  BEST TRICKS
MISULTINE  ZONE SPEED CROSSING

The Lake of Como, Italy, has been chosen as site for the Como Lake Kiteboard
World Cup, kick off of the 2006 KPWT season !!!!

At only 20 days from the event, with 70 riders, everything is set to host the
KPWT Team, that will organize the event with the collaboration of its local
partners, Logos Style, and the support of the event main sponsors :  Fiat

This event will be the first leg of the KPWT 06, and as such is sure to attact
numerous spectators & medias that will attend a great show offered by a best and
dream casting of competitors, who will perform five disciplines : Freestyle,
Speed Crossing, Best Tricks, Hang Time contest, Sliders.

Indeed, among the international top pro riders expected at Como, the
representatives of 25 nationalities, among whom some "big sizes" of the
worldwide kiteboarding scene :

The World Champion of kiteboarding, Thomas Cocquelet, will have to defend his
title face to the champions of various european countries : Mickael Fernandez
(FR), KPWT 2004 world champion, Max Di Cicco, Italian Champion, Abel Lago &
Ruben Salvador, Soufiane Hamaini Champion of Morocco..

They will all have to count on other serious challengers : The french Antoine
Auriol, the Brazilian Joseph Carneiro (Br) South American Champion, Miguel
Willis (Aus).......
Other countries will be highly represented : South Africa with Rowlins Tyrone,
Cabo Verde with Mittou, Holland with Sender Lenten......
A great international casting that will face the local leaders : the italians,
Piercarlo Ricasoli, Lorenzo Giovanelli...

The women board is also quite promising :
Will the young spanish phenomenon Gisela Pulido, 2005 world champion, confirm
her leadership on this first leg of the 2006 world cup tour ? What we can say is
that she will have to count with some of the best
female competitors of the moment :  Noelia Nunez Macias KPWT vice champion 2005,
the Turkish champion Julie Simsar, Marta Lobato Portuguese Champion, Perine
Scelland new Caledonian
champion........

Furthermore, this event will be the opportunity for the many spectators expected
at FIAT FREESTYLE KITEBOARD WORLD CUP 2006 to enjoy various exciting open air
activities like the simulator of kite,
The Freestyle Moto Cross, and to enjoy thrilling shows, like the parachute,
wakeboard, skateboard and nautical skiing exhibitions, DJs sets, Concerts...





For further information :
please visit : www.kiteboardpro.com
And/or contact Frédéric Gravoille, Promoter of the Tour: kiteboarding@...
or Jean Charles Joguet, Event Manager and Coordinator : kpwt@...
Tel / Fax : 00 33 (0) 1 46 44 46 94 More informations and the 2006 KPWT Calendar
: www.kiteboardpro.com

We hope to see you all for the Como Lake Kiteboard World Cup!!!!!



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I moded my 12 crossbow a couple weeks ago and i love it very much less
bar pressure as well as a pretty significant turning speed.

bryan


--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "ekulst" <ekulst@...> wrote:
>
> Interested to see if anyone on the list has tried the bridle
> modifications recently described for the Crossbow.  I just performed
> the modification described in the second link below; it was easy to
> do, but I haven't had any wind the last few days to get out yet...
>
>
> http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2322178&start=30
>
>
http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2324595&postdays=0&postorder=asc&\
highlight=crossbow+bar+pressure&start=20
>
> Erik
>

I had our first lesson of the season using the Waroo 12m in the week-end
and it was excellent.

The student was twice my weight (255 lbs .vs. 125 lbs) and we shared the
same 12m Waroo no problem.

The water relaunch was so easy and that's really boosted the student's
confident level.  We also went through the relaunching technique using
both the flat kite technique and the the classic kite technique (the
student obviously prefer the flat kite technique as it was simpler).

The "submarine pull" was reduced by more than half.

The body drag upwind was easy.

The student originally wanted to buy a used 16m classic kite from the
school (for budget reason) and after the session, wanted to go for new
flat kite as he liked it so much (even though a new Waroo 16m is twice
as expensive as the school used 16m classic LEI).

Overall, I saw many advantages of teaching/learning using flat kite and
not any disadvantage except for the fact that the student may get
addicted to the flat kite and may not want to use classic kite.

Hung.

I did the mod. The Xbow is an incredible kite with the mod! Without
it, there is way too much bar pressure.

The kites are advancing all the time. I wonder just how good they can
get.

I saw a contra this weekend. It had one pump, better construction, and
the same mod stock.

I can emagin that if the tech keeps getting better, there are going to
be spinoff sports that are related, but not exactly the same thing as
kiteboarding.

It's like the evolution of a species to flight. I can't help but have
that go through my head everytime I send the Xbow, and sheet in.

Homo Sapien -> Homo Legaignaut

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, bhsu24 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I moded my 12 crossbow a couple weeks ago and i love it very much less
> bar pressure as well as a pretty significant turning speed.
>
> bryan
>
>
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "ekulst" <ekulst@> wrote:
> >
> > Interested to see if anyone on the list has tried the bridle
> > modifications recently described for the Crossbow.  I just performed
> > the modification described in the second link below; it was easy to
> > do, but I haven't had any wind the last few days to get out yet...
> >
> >
> > http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2322178&start=30
> >
> >
>
http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2324595&postdays=0&postorder=asc&\
highlight=crossbow+bar+pressure&start=20
> >
> > Erik
> >
>

For 10-25 knots and 85 kg I would recommend a quiver of 16 and 12. If you
skip the lightest winds you could even opt for 14 and 9. I'm talking bows
here, not C-kites, but bows is obviously what you want. The advantage of a
14/9 quiver are: better handling and you gain a lot more high end (maybe 15
knots) by sacrificing a bit of low end (say 3 knots) . Also for a beginner
it is better to be a bit underpowered, hence the 9m, which is the kite you
should buy first then.

As for the choice between Wipika Matrix and Best Waroo: I did not find any
relevant information about the Wipika Matrix on the web and hardly anything
negative about the Waroo. I even wonder if there is such thing as a Matrix
2006 kite. So if the choice is between those two: Waroo. I can hardly
imagine that you ever would regret the purchase.

So for your first year you shouldn't take a small and radical board, but you
don't need a ship either. Later you could use it as your light wind board.
With your size I would recommend a bidirectional board with length 132-140
(4'4"- 4'7") and width 39-43 cm. ( 15.5"-17"). I would not recommend a
board less wide as 38.5 cm. A wide board goes well with a bow/SLE
kite, because you will never need to edge hard. A wide board increases your
low-end and eases planing.

I studied the boards you mention, and I was most impressed by the LF Drop
136. The Proof 151 is the biggest board you mention, so it will be the
easiest in the beginning probably, but you will soon outgrow it and I think
it is even too big to be comfortable in light winds once you are advanced.

To make things more complicated: Have a look at the North Dragon Large
(134×43). Never set my foot on a board that planed so early and still could
turn easy. A friend of mine (100+ kg) just learned kiting on this board.

And then the last advice: Buy (or better borrow) a big and cheap (<$100)
beginners board for your very first sessions, then once you can stay on
it, try the boards mentioned above, choose the one you like and get rid of
the big thing again. Pass it on to a novice.



On 5/14/06, dvisionca <dvisionca@...> wrote:
>
> I weight 85 KG and am 6 foot tall.  I will be riding flat and choppy
> conditions. Average 10-25 knots fairly stable winds.
>
> Looking for 100% depower and will limit my quiver to 2 kites since I
> will be buying everything at once.
> ...


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-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: IS THERE GOOD KITE BOARDING IN BAHAMAS???
Date:  Tue, 16 May 2006 19:54:12 -0000
From:  crossshore <crossshore@...>
To:  kitesurf-owner@yahoogroups.com



sorry for the late message but yes there is great kiteboarding in the
bahamas Nassau is where I am and I have been rippen it up for a few
years here.
            aj

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, jsails1974 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
> Very little is on the web related to kiteboarding in bahamas.
> I am going there Jan 3-9th staying on Paradise Island off Grand
> Bahama Island. Can anyone give me beta where to kite/what to expect??
> THANKS in advanced!!
> J
>









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I'm looking to upgrade my quiver so i'm trying to sell
my existing kites
1. 05 16.0m  Cabrinha CO2 - $400.00 USD w/ bar and
lines(Fairly used)
2. 05 18.0m Flexifoil Storm 3 - $300.00 USD w/o bar
and lines( fairly used)
3. 03 12.0m Cabrinha CO2 - $150.00 USD w/o Bar and
lines( minor repairs required)

images are available upon request.
cheers


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hola

i'm selling a 12m Caution Answer (black) Hybrid/Bow
kite.$1050. Used three times. excellent condition.
Plus it has an after market 2 pump system. the only
Answer to have one. retail price $1400. still has the
feel of a C kite but all the depower and range of a
bow kite. really jumps like a C kite.

email: cattlebone@...

--- Robert Thompson <rydestillruff@...> wrote:

> I'm looking to upgrade my quiver so i'm trying to
> sell
> my existing kites
> 1. 05 16.0m  Cabrinha CO2 - $400.00 USD w/ bar and
> lines(Fairly used)
> 2. 05 18.0m Flexifoil Storm 3 - $300.00 USD w/o bar
> and lines( fairly used)
> 3. 03 12.0m Cabrinha CO2 - $150.00 USD w/o Bar and
> lines( minor repairs required)
>
> images are available upon request.
> cheers
>
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Why are you selling?

Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "MARQ MORRISON" <cattlebone@...>
To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: [ksurf] kites for sale


> hola
>
> i'm selling a 12m Caution Answer (black) Hybrid/Bow
> kite.$1050. Used three times. excellent condition.
> Plus it has an after market 2 pump system. the only
> Answer to have one. retail price $1400. still has the
> feel of a C kite but all the depower and range of a
> bow kite. really jumps like a C kite.
>
> email: cattlebone@...
>
> --- Robert Thompson <rydestillruff@...> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to upgrade my quiver so i'm trying to
>> sell
>> my existing kites
>> 1. 05 16.0m  Cabrinha CO2 - $400.00 USD w/ bar and
>> lines(Fairly used)
>> 2. 05 18.0m Flexifoil Storm 3 - $300.00 USD w/o bar
>> and lines( fairly used)
>> 3. 03 12.0m Cabrinha CO2 - $150.00 USD w/o Bar and
>> lines( minor repairs required)
>>
>> images are available upon request.
>> cheers
>>
>>
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Hi all,

   Again this year Surf Culture Canada will be hosting kitestock at Mitchell's
Bay on
June 3 & 4th.  All the major brand reps will be there to demo the 2006 gear and
top local riders and a few international team riders will be present for the
boardercross and expression session thru our secret slick spots, transported
there on our 40ft pontoon boat.

   Saturday evening from  8pm - 1 am, the riders party sponsored by redbull will
be held at Bob N Bouys Restaurant 50 meters from the beach.  We have a ton of
door prizes and will be raffling off a kite from best, drysuit a board or 2 and
harnesses, etc, etc...
The band Ruth's Hat will be rocking the house during the evening as always.

   For more info check out our the site www.kitestock,ca and our local forum
www.learntokite.com for more details.

   Tim Blanchard
   Surf Culture Canada
   www.SurfCultureCanada.ca


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my friend is selling me his 1st genration crossbow
dirt cheap as in $275. i'm strapped for cash and i
need to clear my charge plate. i'd rather keep it but
i got to eat.

--- loco4olas <loco4olas@...> wrote:

> Why are you selling?
>
> Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MARQ MORRISON" <cattlebone@...>
> To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [ksurf] kites for sale
>
>
> > hola
> >
> > i'm selling a 12m Caution Answer (black)
> Hybrid/Bow
> > kite.$1050. Used three times. excellent condition.
> > Plus it has an after market 2 pump system. the
> only
> > Answer to have one. retail price $1400. still has
> the
> > feel of a C kite but all the depower and range of
> a
> > bow kite. really jumps like a C kite.
> >
> > email: cattlebone@...
> >
> > --- Robert Thompson <rydestillruff@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm looking to upgrade my quiver so i'm trying to
> >> sell
> >> my existing kites
> >> 1. 05 16.0m  Cabrinha CO2 - $400.00 USD w/ bar
> and
> >> lines(Fairly used)
> >> 2. 05 18.0m Flexifoil Storm 3 - $300.00 USD w/o
> bar
> >> and lines( fairly used)
> >> 3. 03 12.0m Cabrinha CO2 - $150.00 USD w/o Bar
> and
> >> lines( minor repairs required)
> >>
> >> images are available upon request.
> >> cheers
> >>
> >>
> >>
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He is doing you a big favor. Don't expect that kind of price anywhere
else. Those kites are still selling at almost MSRP with the new ones
expected sometime in August.

If I were you I would take that deal whether you can get rid of the
other kites or not. Put the bridal mod on, and you will have one hell
of a kite for 1/5th the price anyone else is going to get.


--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, MARQ MORRISON <cattlebone@...> wrote:
>
> my friend is selling me his 1st genration crossbow
> dirt cheap as in $275. i'm strapped for cash and i
> need to clear my charge plate. i'd rather keep it but
> i got to eat.
>
> --- loco4olas <loco4olas@...> wrote:
>
> > Why are you selling?
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "MARQ MORRISON" <cattlebone@...>
> > To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ksurf] kites for sale
> >
> >
> > > hola
> > >
> > > i'm selling a 12m Caution Answer (black)
> > Hybrid/Bow
> > > kite.$1050. Used three times. excellent condition.
> > > Plus it has an after market 2 pump system. the
> > only
> > > Answer to have one. retail price $1400. still has
> > the
> > > feel of a C kite but all the depower and range of
> > a
> > > bow kite. really jumps like a C kite.
> > >
> > > email: cattlebone@...
> > >
> > > --- Robert Thompson <rydestillruff@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm looking to upgrade my quiver so i'm trying to
> > >> sell
> > >> my existing kites
> > >> 1. 05 16.0m  Cabrinha CO2 - $400.00 USD w/ bar
> > and
> > >> lines(Fairly used)
> > >> 2. 05 18.0m Flexifoil Storm 3 - $300.00 USD w/o
> > bar
> > >> and lines( fairly used)
> > >> 3. 03 12.0m Cabrinha CO2 - $150.00 USD w/o Bar
> > and
> > >> lines( minor repairs required)
> > >>
> > >> images are available upon request.
> > >> cheers
> > >>
> > >>
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It has been a great spring, the winds "may" be shifting gears into summer
patterns at present.  Still, what a great season it has been.  There is a
lot to checkout since the last update in February including ...

- KITE 4 GIRLS 2006 In Photos --> PART I & Video!!!
   Enough said, the images speak volumes.

- DONE - 2700 MILES ACROSS AN OCEAN BY KITE!!!
   Manu Bertin goes were no kiter has ever gone before, all the WAY ACROSS
THE ATLANTIC!

- Billy Da Man!
   Local rider, Bill Park hits the big time and winds second in the PKRA!

- Review of AERIAL ASSAULT from KITEFLIX!!!
   George and Dimitri have put together an highly entertaining DVD.  Check it
out

- Something New ... WATERBOARDS
   A new concept in kiteboards, worth a read, and ride!

- Flat (Hybrid) Kite Safety
   An article from SBC Kiteboard looking at the new flat kites.

- NEW Ft. Pierce Beachfront Kiteshop
   GK of Globerider takes it to the beach with a new shop, next to a hot
beach bar.  With the wind and      waves at this destination, what a
concept!

All this and more at:
http://fksa.org/viewforum.php?f=73

***

KITEBOARDING TRAVEL DISASTERS - Avoiding Them!
This is the time of year a number of us start to travel.  This article is
definitely worth a read.
at http://fksa.org/viewtopic.php?t=1231

***

St. Petersburg/Tampa Bay Forum
The guys in this new forum are going OFF!  Loads of talent and input on
local conditions and riding in general can be found in this active group at:
   http://fksa.org/viewforum.php?f=107

Bahamian Kiteboarding Forum
It's better in the Bahamas!  True story, in many ways, so why not dial into
to this forum dedicated to the Family Islands?
http://fksa.org/viewforum.php?f=98

Southeast Florida
TESTING, TESTING ... is this working or not???  There are more riders in SE
Florida than much of the rest of the east coast of the USA.  WHERE are you?
http://fksa.org/viewforum.php?f=67

There are forums for the rest of Florida and beyond for questions, ideas or
justing shooting the breeze after sessions.

***

HOW To Start Kiteboarding, Training, Retailers
That says it all, ideas on getting in HERE, http://fksa.org/index.php?c=28

***

WAY TO GO - Kiteboarder Rescues!
Big news here about dramatic kiteboarder rescues, (that is us doing the
rescuing!).  Interesting stories here, check it out.
http://fksa.org/viewforum.php?f=92


and a great deal more.  The wind is good and the riding fine, here anyway.
Come on down.

FKA, Inc.

transcribed by:
Rick Iossi
http://fksa.org/

Hi!
Forget the higher price of the sonic. For me I can get the Sonic
complete new evem more cheaper than the waroo without the bar!
So... the price is out of question.

For those who have tried both kites, can you tell me what is the best
kite to pick up?
For the Sonic I was thinking about the combo of 11 and 8.
For the Waroo I was thinking about the combo of 14 and the 9.
I´m 75 kilos!

I´d like to know what you think about this two models, in the aspects
of quality of constructuion; Performance, hangtime, jumps, etc, and
the stability, the bar...

Thanks!

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On 26 May 2006 00:45:52 -0000, kitesurf@yahoogroups.com <
kitesurf@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> There is 1 message in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
>   1.  SPAMMISH !!! Difference between Yahoo , Snapfish and   PHOTOMAX  ???
>         From: "Anthony" surferd@...
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello you will find hereafter my newsletter, Special Kite Competition in St
Martin
Welcome to Anguilla, St Barth and St martin
http://www.tropical-paradise.net/Tropical-Paradise-news-May06.html


Enjoy,
Thierry Dehove
http://www.tropical-paradise.net

I am planning to write a section on Kiteboating at the Kitesurfing
School web site http://kiteboardingschool.org/kiteboating.htm so we (2
kiters) tried a standard Laser sailboat with a 12m Waroo in light wind
around 7 knots over the week-end.

After 2 failed attempts of kiteboating with the kite attached to one of
us (we got pull off the boat), we tried attaching the kite to the center
block of the Laser and it worked very nicely.

We could do everything (down wind, upwind, jibe, kiteloop and even stop
the boat by swinging the kite backward) except for relaunching the kite
(the wind was too light perhaps).

We will try it in stronger wind to see how the relaunching will work.

Kiteboating is definitly a great things to do when you want to go kiting
with a friend ...

Hung.

u got me interested!
waiting for pics!

--- hungvu2000@... wrote:

> I am planning to write a section on Kiteboating at
> the Kitesurfing
> School web site
> http://kiteboardingschool.org/kiteboating.htm so we
> (2
> kiters) tried a standard Laser sailboat with a 12m
> Waroo in light wind
> around 7 knots over the week-end.
>
> After 2 failed attempts of kiteboating with the kite
> attached to one of
> us (we got pull off the boat), we tried attaching
> the kite to the center
> block of the Laser and it worked very nicely.
>
> We could do everything (down wind, upwind, jibe,
> kiteloop and even stop
> the boat by swinging the kite backward) except for
> relaunching the kite
> (the wind was too light perhaps).
>
> We will try it in stronger wind to see how the
> relaunching will work.
>
> Kiteboating is definitly a great things to do when
> you want to go kiting
> with a friend ...
>
> Hung.
>
>
> If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the
> answers
> to the most frequently asked questions.
>
> === to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>


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Remember too that there are boats (actually catamarans) designed
specifically for use with a kite that work excellent.  Peter Lynn has been
refining his Kite Cat design for over 15 years and the current version can
be put on a roof rack to be taken to your local spot.  With steering on all
4 corners controlled by your feet similar to in a kite buggy, this style
will turn very quickly and is capable of very high speeds.

Unfortunately, if you want one now, you better stand in line.  It can take
many months to get yours if you order it now.  Attach a side saddle seat and
electric trolling motor for backup propulsion and you can explore a lot of
water.

--Jake
www.WindFlowSports.com

-----Original Message-----
From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of hungvu2000@...
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:26 PM
To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com; ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com;
cankitesurf@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ksurf] Kiteboating

I am planning to write a section on Kiteboating at the Kitesurfing
School web site http://kiteboardingschool.org/kiteboating.htm so we (2
kiters) tried a standard Laser sailboat with a 12m Waroo in light wind
around 7 knots over the week-end.

After 2 failed attempts of kiteboating with the kite attached to one of
us (we got pull off the boat), we tried attaching the kite to the center
block of the Laser and it worked very nicely.

We could do everything (down wind, upwind, jibe, kiteloop and even stop
the boat by swinging the kite backward) except for relaunching the kite
(the wind was too light perhaps).

We will try it in stronger wind to see how the relaunching will work.

Kiteboating is definitly a great things to do when you want to go kiting
with a friend ...

Hung.


If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
to the most frequently asked questions.

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Yahoo! Groups Links

I knew about the Kitecat.  Peter sent me a photo of it a couple years
back and I believe I have posted it on the Kitesurfing FAQ.

I would consider the kitecat as a waterbuggy and the sport waterbuggying.

For kiteboating, I aim at traditional boats of at least 2 persons
(sailboat or others) with kites attached to the boat and as the only
source of power (except for padles or engine in case of nowind or
assisting in relaunching).

Eventually, I want to offer kiteboating lesson to average sailboat sailors.

Hung.

Jake Jacobs wrote:

>Remember too that there are boats (actually catamarans) designed
>specifically for use with a kite that work excellent.  Peter Lynn has been
>refining his Kite Cat design for over 15 years and the current version can
>be put on a roof rack to be taken to your local spot.  With steering on all
>4 corners controlled by your feet similar to in a kite buggy, this style
>will turn very quickly and is capable of very high speeds.
>
>Unfortunately, if you want one now, you better stand in line.  It can take
>many months to get yours if you order it now.  Attach a side saddle seat and
>electric trolling motor for backup propulsion and you can explore a lot of
>water.
>
>--Jake
>www.WindFlowSports.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
>Of hungvu2000@...
>Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:26 PM
>To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com; ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com;
>cankitesurf@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ksurf] Kiteboating
>
>I am planning to write a section on Kiteboating at the Kitesurfing
>School web site http://kiteboardingschool.org/kiteboating.htm so we (2
>kiters) tried a standard Laser sailboat with a 12m Waroo in light wind
>around 7 knots over the week-end.
>
>After 2 failed attempts of kiteboating with the kite attached to one of
>us (we got pull off the boat), we tried attaching the kite to the center
>block of the Laser and it worked very nicely.
>
>We could do everything (down wind, upwind, jibe, kiteloop and even stop
>the boat by swinging the kite backward) except for relaunching the kite
>(the wind was too light perhaps).
>
>We will try it in stronger wind to see how the relaunching will work.
>
>Kiteboating is definitly a great things to do when you want to go kiting
>with a friend ...
>
>Hung.
>
>
>If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
>http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
>to the most frequently asked questions.
>
>=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
>kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
>http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
>to the most frequently asked questions.
>
>=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I've sucessfully done the laser kiting several times, amazing how
close to the wind you can go almost straight up wind, and in so light
wind. here is the video from one of my trips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBHNQh9fvB4

12 Crossbow, 27 meter lines, 2 and 3 persons on the laser.

Bryan


--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, hungvu2000@... wrote:
>
> I knew about the Kitecat.  Peter sent me a photo of it a couple years
> back and I believe I have posted it on the Kitesurfing FAQ.
>
> I would consider the kitecat as a waterbuggy and the sport
waterbuggying.
>
> For kiteboating, I aim at traditional boats of at least 2 persons
> (sailboat or others) with kites attached to the boat and as the only
> source of power (except for padles or engine in case of nowind or
> assisting in relaunching).
>
> Eventually, I want to offer kiteboating lesson to average sailboat
sailors.
>
> Hung.
>
> Jake Jacobs wrote:
>
> >Remember too that there are boats (actually catamarans) designed
> >specifically for use with a kite that work excellent.  Peter Lynn
has been
> >refining his Kite Cat design for over 15 years and the current
version can
> >be put on a roof rack to be taken to your local spot.  With
steering on all
> >4 corners controlled by your feet similar to in a kite buggy, this
style
> >will turn very quickly and is capable of very high speeds.
> >
> >Unfortunately, if you want one now, you better stand in line.  It
can take
> >many months to get yours if you order it now.  Attach a side saddle
seat and
> >electric trolling motor for backup propulsion and you can explore a
lot of
> >water.
> >
> >--Jake
> >www.WindFlowSports.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> >Of hungvu2000@...
> >Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:26 PM
> >To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com; ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com;
> >cankitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [ksurf] Kiteboating
> >
> >I am planning to write a section on Kiteboating at the Kitesurfing
> >School web site http://kiteboardingschool.org/kiteboating.htm so we (2
> >kiters) tried a standard Laser sailboat with a 12m Waroo in light wind
> >around 7 knots over the week-end.
> >
> >After 2 failed attempts of kiteboating with the kite attached to
one of
> >us (we got pull off the boat), we tried attaching the kite to the
center
> >block of the Laser and it worked very nicely.
> >
> >We could do everything (down wind, upwind, jibe, kiteloop and even
stop
> >the boat by swinging the kite backward) except for relaunching the
kite
> >(the wind was too light perhaps).
> >
> >We will try it in stronger wind to see how the relaunching will work.
> >
> >Kiteboating is definitly a great things to do when you want to go
kiting
> >with a friend ...
> >
> >Hung.
> >
> >
> >If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> >http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
> >to the most frequently asked questions.
> >
> >=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> >kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> >http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
> >to the most frequently asked questions.
> >
> >=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Where is that?
SF Bay?
Not really what Hung has in mind, I suspect.

Loco

----- Original Message -----
From: "bhsu24" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:02 PM
Subject: [ksurf] Re: Kiteboating


> I've sucessfully done the laser kiting several times, amazing how
> close to the wind you can go almost straight up wind, and in so light
> wind. here is the video from one of my trips:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBHNQh9fvB4
>
> 12 Crossbow, 27 meter lines, 2 and 3 persons on the laser.
>
> Bryan
>
>
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, hungvu2000@... wrote:
>>
>> I knew about the Kitecat.  Peter sent me a photo of it a couple years
>> back and I believe I have posted it on the Kitesurfing FAQ.
>>
>> I would consider the kitecat as a waterbuggy and the sport
> waterbuggying.
>>
>> For kiteboating, I aim at traditional boats of at least 2 persons
>> (sailboat or others) with kites attached to the boat and as the only
>> source of power (except for padles or engine in case of nowind or
>> assisting in relaunching).
>>
>> Eventually, I want to offer kiteboating lesson to average sailboat
> sailors.
>>
>> Hung.
>>
>> Jake Jacobs wrote:
>>
>> >Remember too that there are boats (actually catamarans) designed
>> >specifically for use with a kite that work excellent.  Peter Lynn
> has been
>> >refining his Kite Cat design for over 15 years and the current
> version can
>> >be put on a roof rack to be taken to your local spot.  With
> steering on all
>> >4 corners controlled by your feet similar to in a kite buggy, this
> style
>> >will turn very quickly and is capable of very high speeds.
>> >
>> >Unfortunately, if you want one now, you better stand in line.  It
> can take
>> >many months to get yours if you order it now.  Attach a side saddle
> seat and
>> >electric trolling motor for backup propulsion and you can explore a
> lot of
>> >water.
>> >
>> >--Jake
>> >www.WindFlowSports.com
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
>> >Of hungvu2000@...
>> >Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:26 PM
>> >To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com; ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com;
>> >cankitesurf@yahoogroups.com
>> >Subject: [ksurf] Kiteboating
>> >
>> >I am planning to write a section on Kiteboating at the Kitesurfing
>> >School web site http://kiteboardingschool.org/kiteboating.htm so we (2
>> >kiters) tried a standard Laser sailboat with a 12m Waroo in light wind
>> >around 7 knots over the week-end.
>> >
>> >After 2 failed attempts of kiteboating with the kite attached to
> one of
>> >us (we got pull off the boat), we tried attaching the kite to the
> center
>> >block of the Laser and it worked very nicely.
>> >
>> >We could do everything (down wind, upwind, jibe, kiteloop and even
> stop
>> >the boat by swinging the kite backward) except for relaunching the
> kite
>> >(the wind was too light perhaps).
>> >
>> >We will try it in stronger wind to see how the relaunching will work.
>> >
>> >Kiteboating is definitly a great things to do when you want to go
> kiting
>> >with a friend ...
>> >
>> >Hung.
>> >
>> >
>> >If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
>> >http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
>> >to the most frequently asked questions.
>> >
>> >=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
>> >kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
>> >http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
>> >to the most frequently asked questions.
>> >
>> >=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
> to the most frequently asked questions.
>
> === to unsubscribe, please send an email to
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>
>
>
>
>

Yes this is in SF Bay, we have tried it sucessfully with the kite
hooked to me and to the boat it is definatly easier to do while the
kite is attached to the boat.

bryan

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "loco4olas" <loco4olas@...> wrote:
>
> Where is that?
> SF Bay?
> Not really what Hung has in mind, I suspect.
>
> Loco
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bhsu24" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:02 PM
> Subject: [ksurf] Re: Kiteboating
>
>
> > I've sucessfully done the laser kiting several times, amazing how
> > close to the wind you can go almost straight up wind, and in so light
> > wind. here is the video from one of my trips:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBHNQh9fvB4
> >
> > 12 Crossbow, 27 meter lines, 2 and 3 persons on the laser.
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> >
> > --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, hungvu2000@ wrote:
> >>
> >> I knew about the Kitecat.  Peter sent me a photo of it a couple years
> >> back and I believe I have posted it on the Kitesurfing FAQ.
> >>
> >> I would consider the kitecat as a waterbuggy and the sport
> > waterbuggying.
> >>
> >> For kiteboating, I aim at traditional boats of at least 2 persons
> >> (sailboat or others) with kites attached to the boat and as the only
> >> source of power (except for padles or engine in case of nowind or
> >> assisting in relaunching).
> >>
> >> Eventually, I want to offer kiteboating lesson to average sailboat
> > sailors.
> >>
> >> Hung.
> >>
> >> Jake Jacobs wrote:
> >>
> >> >Remember too that there are boats (actually catamarans) designed
> >> >specifically for use with a kite that work excellent.  Peter Lynn
> > has been
> >> >refining his Kite Cat design for over 15 years and the current
> > version can
> >> >be put on a roof rack to be taken to your local spot.  With
> > steering on all
> >> >4 corners controlled by your feet similar to in a kite buggy, this
> > style
> >> >will turn very quickly and is capable of very high speeds.
> >> >
> >> >Unfortunately, if you want one now, you better stand in line.  It
> > can take
> >> >many months to get yours if you order it now.  Attach a side saddle
> > seat and
> >> >electric trolling motor for backup propulsion and you can explore a
> > lot of
> >> >water.
> >> >
> >> >--Jake
> >> >www.WindFlowSports.com
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf
> >> >Of hungvu2000@
> >> >Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:26 PM
> >> >To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com; ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com;
> >> >cankitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> >> >Subject: [ksurf] Kiteboating
> >> >
> >> >I am planning to write a section on Kiteboating at the Kitesurfing
> >> >School web site http://kiteboardingschool.org/kiteboating.htm so
we (2
> >> >kiters) tried a standard Laser sailboat with a 12m Waroo in
light wind
> >> >around 7 knots over the week-end.
> >> >
> >> >After 2 failed attempts of kiteboating with the kite attached to
> > one of
> >> >us (we got pull off the boat), we tried attaching the kite to the
> > center
> >> >block of the Laser and it worked very nicely.
> >> >
> >> >We could do everything (down wind, upwind, jibe, kiteloop and even
> > stop
> >> >the boat by swinging the kite backward) except for relaunching the
> > kite
> >> >(the wind was too light perhaps).
> >> >
> >> >We will try it in stronger wind to see how the relaunching will
work.
> >> >
> >> >Kiteboating is definitly a great things to do when you want to go
> > kiting
> >> >with a friend ...
> >> >
> >> >Hung.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> >> >http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
> >> >to the most frequently asked questions.
> >> >
> >> >=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> >> >kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> >> >http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
> >> >to the most frequently asked questions.
> >> >
> >> >=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> > kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> > http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
> > to the most frequently asked questions.
> >
> > === to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> > kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

We found it is easier attaching the kite to the boat too.

Furthermore, attach the chickenloop to the boat is the way to go for
sure if we want to scale kiteboating up to larger boat.

I can see the one-pump feature with a built-in electric pump on the boat
useful for preparing the kite on the boat, also the turbo launcher.

Hung.

bhsu24 wrote:

>Yes this is in SF Bay, we have tried it sucessfully with the kite
>hooked to me and to the boat it is definatly easier to do while the
>kite is attached to the boat.
>
>bryan
>
>--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "loco4olas" <loco4olas@...> wrote:
>
>
>>Where is that?
>>SF Bay?
>>Not really what Hung has in mind, I suspect.
>>
>>Loco
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "bhsu24" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
>>To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:02 PM
>>Subject: [ksurf] Re: Kiteboating
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I've sucessfully done the laser kiting several times, amazing how
>>>close to the wind you can go almost straight up wind, and in so light
>>>wind. here is the video from one of my trips:
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBHNQh9fvB4
>>>
>>>12 Crossbow, 27 meter lines, 2 and 3 persons on the laser.
>>>
>>>Bryan
>>>
>>>
>>>--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, hungvu2000@ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I knew about the Kitecat.  Peter sent me a photo of it a couple years
>>>>back and I believe I have posted it on the Kitesurfing FAQ.
>>>>
>>>>I would consider the kitecat as a waterbuggy and the sport
>>>>
>>>>
>>>waterbuggying.
>>>
>>>
>>>>For kiteboating, I aim at traditional boats of at least 2 persons
>>>>(sailboat or others) with kites attached to the boat and as the only
>>>>source of power (except for padles or engine in case of nowind or
>>>>assisting in relaunching).
>>>>
>>>>Eventually, I want to offer kiteboating lesson to average sailboat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>sailors.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hung.
>>>>
>>>>Jake Jacobs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Remember too that there are boats (actually catamarans) designed
>>>>>specifically for use with a kite that work excellent.  Peter Lynn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>has been
>>>
>>>
>>>>>refining his Kite Cat design for over 15 years and the current
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>version can
>>>
>>>
>>>>>be put on a roof rack to be taken to your local spot.  With
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>steering on all
>>>
>>>
>>>>>4 corners controlled by your feet similar to in a kite buggy, this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>style
>>>
>>>
>>>>>will turn very quickly and is capable of very high speeds.
>>>>>
>>>>>Unfortunately, if you want one now, you better stand in line.  It
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>can take
>>>
>>>
>>>>>many months to get yours if you order it now.  Attach a side saddle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>seat and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>electric trolling motor for backup propulsion and you can explore a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>lot of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>water.
>>>>>
>>>>>--Jake
>>>>>www.WindFlowSports.com
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com] On
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>Behalf
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Of hungvu2000@
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:26 PM
>>>>>To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com; ksurfschool@yahoogroups.com;
>>>>>cankitesurf@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>Subject: [ksurf] Kiteboating
>>>>>
>>>>>I am planning to write a section on Kiteboating at the Kitesurfing
>>>>>School web site http://kiteboardingschool.org/kiteboating.htm so
>>>>>
>>>>>
>we (2
>
>
>>>>>kiters) tried a standard Laser sailboat with a 12m Waroo in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>light wind
>
>
>>>>>around 7 knots over the week-end.
>>>>>
>>>>>After 2 failed attempts of kiteboating with the kite attached to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>one of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>us (we got pull off the boat), we tried attaching the kite to the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>center
>>>
>>>
>>>>>block of the Laser and it worked very nicely.
>>>>>
>>>>>We could do everything (down wind, upwind, jibe, kiteloop and even
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>stop
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the boat by swinging the kite backward) except for relaunching the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>kite
>>>
>>>
>>>>>(the wind was too light perhaps).
>>>>>
>>>>>We will try it in stronger wind to see how the relaunching will
>>>>>
>>>>>
>work.
>
>
>>>>>Kiteboating is definitly a great things to do when you want to go
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>kiting
>>>
>>>
>>>>>with a friend ...
>>>>>
>>>>>Hung.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
>>>>>http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
>>>>>to the most frequently asked questions.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
>>>>>http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
>>>>>to the most frequently asked questions.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
>>>http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
>>>to the most frequently asked questions.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
>http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
>to the most frequently asked questions.
>
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I also thought of attaching a kite to a hobie cat that I had. It got
destroyed in a hurricane but I was going to connect it with a continuous loop
traveler so that it could be moved from side to side and kept there.

For boat launching to kite board or to kite boat. layout the lines and wind
up one side until the kite is sideways. Then wind  all of the lines  together
from that point.  Fill up the kite, and let it drift down wind. If  you let
the kite and lines out with the lines going through a rope or bar with 4  or 5
caribiners you can be sure that there are no twists between the kite and  the
caribiners.  When all the lines are let out you can untwist the bar if  there
are any twists.  Once you are ready, take the lines out of the  caribiners and
unwind the last segment of line... the kite should be ready  to water launch.
George


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Hi

Any Kitesurfers out there in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia?

azhar

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "makis \"Principia\"" <billias77@...>
wrote:
>
> u got me interested!
> waiting for pics!

Here are some: http://www.dcss.org/speedsl/gallery.html  Also:
http://www.cobrakite.com/jaclad.html

These were taken between 1978 and 1989, all include rigidly attaching
kites to boats, not to the sailors' bodies. This isn't exactly new
stuff, Hung.

FWIW, there's an issue about using kitesurf LEI's with boats. When you
load up the kite (you can put several times more load on the lines
with a boat than with a board), the LEI deforms and pull drops off--a
lot. This is fine for small boats like lasers and hobies, but not for
larger boats. Yes, Don Montegue is having this happen to him, as are
the several European groups trying to tie the wrong kite to the wrong
boat.

In the meantime, the Lynn cat is actually working very well--he solves
the tie-in issue by making the seat sides very high. This allows
realistic kite loads but retains the safety factor--when overpowered
the pilot gets lofted, not the whole boat (hooked-on hobies, lasers
and the like *will* take off and fly if you fall off or get pulled
off--this can be easily as dangerous as other kite surfing accidents.
Imagine being hit by the flying boat as it comes down.)

Ignoring the Lynn boat (as by calling it "not kiteboating", or "water
buggying") is a mistake, IMO. These boats sail circles around
kite-powered hobies or lasers, and can be bought ready-to-go. YMMV. I
am not aware of any delays in shipping the cat--as far as I know,
Peter is still selling them at "introductory" prices ( = just about
their cost). Contact Pelton Windsports in the US:
http://www.peltonwindsports.com/

I don't sell these cats, nor have any commercial tie to them. I can
tell you that they are very simple to launch and to fly. You can drive
them right onto the beach (rudders are bullet proof) and can pick the
whole thing up easily and walk to or from water while your kite is
attached to your harness. These are easily the handiest kite powered
boats I've ever worked with.

Cheers,

Dave

Kiteboating is as old as our civilization so there is nothing new here!

What's new is how to make it more practical and appealing to an average
boat sailor.

With modern flat LEI,  full-depower, easy relaunching, electric pump,
one-pump, Turbo Launcher (or similar idea), kiteboating may become more
practical and not just for the more radical crowd.  We just need to put
all these elements together and see how they all work.

Some old kiteboating issues may not be applicable to modern flat LEIs...

P.S., The Peter Lynn KiteCat works great and Eric has been using it
around here for a couple years; however, if a kiter want to go solo,
he/she likely wants to grab a board and if they want to go as a team,
they definite want a boat where there is a team effort of kitesailing.

P.P.S., Have Kiteship.com come up with new products other than the
Outleader?  I have an idea for you, send me a private email if you want
to discuss about it.

Hung.

Dave Culp wrote:

>--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "makis \"Principia\"" <billias77@...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>u got me interested!
>>waiting for pics!
>>
>>
>
>Here are some: http://www.dcss.org/speedsl/gallery.html  Also:
>http://www.cobrakite.com/jaclad.html
>
>These were taken between 1978 and 1989, all include rigidly attaching
>kites to boats, not to the sailors' bodies. This isn't exactly new
>stuff, Hung.
>
>FWIW, there's an issue about using kitesurf LEI's with boats. When you
>load up the kite (you can put several times more load on the lines
>with a boat than with a board), the LEI deforms and pull drops off--a
>lot. This is fine for small boats like lasers and hobies, but not for
>larger boats. Yes, Don Montegue is having this happen to him, as are
>the several European groups trying to tie the wrong kite to the wrong
>boat.
>
>In the meantime, the Lynn cat is actually working very well--he solves
>the tie-in issue by making the seat sides very high. This allows
>realistic kite loads but retains the safety factor--when overpowered
>the pilot gets lofted, not the whole boat (hooked-on hobies, lasers
>and the like *will* take off and fly if you fall off or get pulled
>off--this can be easily as dangerous as other kite surfing accidents.
>Imagine being hit by the flying boat as it comes down.)
>
>Ignoring the Lynn boat (as by calling it "not kiteboating", or "water
>buggying") is a mistake, IMO. These boats sail circles around
>kite-powered hobies or lasers, and can be bought ready-to-go. YMMV. I
>am not aware of any delays in shipping the cat--as far as I know,
>Peter is still selling them at "introductory" prices ( = just about
>their cost). Contact Pelton Windsports in the US:
>http://www.peltonwindsports.com/
>
>I don't sell these cats, nor have any commercial tie to them. I can
>tell you that they are very simple to launch and to fly. You can drive
>them right onto the beach (rudders are bullet proof) and can pick the
>whole thing up easily and walk to or from water while your kite is
>attached to your harness. These are easily the handiest kite powered
>boats I've ever worked with.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
>http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
>to the most frequently asked questions.
>
>=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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If anyone is located in the Hood River, OR area and is interested in the
KiteCat, there is a used one located there for sale.  Current owner
purchased it from us in hopes of getting back to kite sports with a failing
lower back but unfortunately he says his back still hurts and he is looking
for a new owner.  If you are interested please contact me directly and I
will put you in touch with the owner.

--Jake

-----Original Message-----
From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of hungvu2000@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:58 PM
To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ksurf] Kiteboating

Kiteboating is as old as our civilization so there is nothing new here!

What's new is how to make it more practical and appealing to an average
boat sailor.

With modern flat LEI,  full-depower, easy relaunching, electric pump,
one-pump, Turbo Launcher (or similar idea), kiteboating may become more
practical and not just for the more radical crowd.  We just need to put
all these elements together and see how they all work.

Some old kiteboating issues may not be applicable to modern flat LEIs...

P.S., The Peter Lynn KiteCat works great and Eric has been using it
around here for a couple years; however, if a kiter want to go solo,
he/she likely wants to grab a board and if they want to go as a team,
they definite want a boat where there is a team effort of kitesailing.

P.P.S., Have Kiteship.com come up with new products other than the
Outleader?  I have an idea for you, send me a private email if you want
to discuss about it.

Hung.

Dave Culp wrote:

>--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "makis \"Principia\"" <billias77@...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>u got me interested!
>>waiting for pics!
>>
>>
>
>Here are some: http://www.dcss.org/speedsl/gallery.html  Also:
>http://www.cobrakite.com/jaclad.html
>
>These were taken between 1978 and 1989, all include rigidly attaching
>kites to boats, not to the sailors' bodies. This isn't exactly new
>stuff, Hung.
>
>FWIW, there's an issue about using kitesurf LEI's with boats. When you
>load up the kite (you can put several times more load on the lines
>with a boat than with a board), the LEI deforms and pull drops off--a
>lot. This is fine for small boats like lasers and hobies, but not for
>larger boats. Yes, Don Montegue is having this happen to him, as are
>the several European groups trying to tie the wrong kite to the wrong
>boat.
>
>In the meantime, the Lynn cat is actually working very well--he solves
>the tie-in issue by making the seat sides very high. This allows
>realistic kite loads but retains the safety factor--when overpowered
>the pilot gets lofted, not the whole boat (hooked-on hobies, lasers
>and the like *will* take off and fly if you fall off or get pulled
>off--this can be easily as dangerous as other kite surfing accidents.
>Imagine being hit by the flying boat as it comes down.)
>
>Ignoring the Lynn boat (as by calling it "not kiteboating", or "water
>buggying") is a mistake, IMO. These boats sail circles around
>kite-powered hobies or lasers, and can be bought ready-to-go. YMMV. I
>am not aware of any delays in shipping the cat--as far as I know,
>Peter is still selling them at "introductory" prices ( = just about
>their cost). Contact Pelton Windsports in the US:
>http://www.peltonwindsports.com/
>
>I don't sell these cats, nor have any commercial tie to them. I can
>tell you that they are very simple to launch and to fly. You can drive
>them right onto the beach (rudders are bullet proof) and can pick the
>whole thing up easily and walk to or from water while your kite is
>attached to your harness. These are easily the handiest kite powered
>boats I've ever worked with.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
>http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
>to the most frequently asked questions.
>
>=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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