To prevent spam, the group is temporarily put into moderated mode.

Hung.

Thanks Hung,
George Warner


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Has anyone tried the new north vegas kites? Everyone is hyping them
up. How about the ocean rodeo one kites?? Which is better? I like the
fact that ocean rodeo stuff is built to last more than 6 months.
I have vegas05 kites that work great.

I'd be very grateful for some advice about boards suitable for learning on.
Despite looking
all round the web, most of the descriptions of boards seem to be filled with
marketing
hype, and I just can't work out what I should be looking for.

1) I'm 85Kg, very tall (wide stance), with 15 years windsurfing experience on
wave.
2) I have some limited kiting experience on an old wipika 15m, with a 6 foot 8
directional.
I've also had a few lessons.
3) I've just purchased a 2nd hand Slingshot Fuel 13m for learning. (It may not
be the best
option but I'm constrained on funds.)
4) I will sail on the UK coast on rocky/stony beaches, so durability is
important. No real
waves but plenty of chop.
5) I just want a board for learning, zoooming around on, learning to go upwind
and
progressing. Nothing fancy at this stage.

So what should I be looking for in a board and the dimensions baffle me since
beginners
boards seem to come in a range of sizes?
If I was to buy new, I would get an Airush Square 3, but not sure what boards I
should be
going for if I try to get one second hand. SHould I just go for anything with
similar
dimensions thats not too old? I'd prefer to get something good rather than a
cheap thing
which a shop just wants to get off its shelves.

Many thanks for any help you might be able to offer.

Jonathan M

I was in La Ventana last week and demo'd the Vegas '06.  I loved it!  I
currently ride Rhino '04s and prior to that I learned on Rhino '02s (and
survived).  I rode a 10M while I had been on my 12 Rhino.  Very stable, quick,
slt less bar pressure than the Rhino, great going upwind.  I need to replace at
least my 12M this season and am seriously considering the Vegas. I want to demo
the Rhino '06 and slingshot fuels.  I tried the SS Octane and felt it was too
twitchy for my level of learning tricks (I can jump and do a backrolls only to
date).  Tried the Best Waru (sp?) which was my first time on a Bow kite.  Too
much bar pressure in my opinion, but only spent 30 min on it and didn't fool
with tuning.  Great price!
Never tried Ocean Rodeo kites.
I ride mostly in the Gorge and am looking for a kite with wide wind range and
that can handle gusts.  Feedback is welcome.

-----Original Message-----
From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of fatkidonline
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:19 PM
To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ksurf] Vegas 06 kites


Has anyone tried the new north vegas kites? Everyone is hyping them
up. How about the ocean rodeo one kites?? Which is better? I like the
fact that ocean rodeo stuff is built to last more than 6 months.
I have vegas05 kites that work great.





If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
to the most frequently asked questions.

=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
===
Yahoo! Groups Links








DISCLAIMER:
This message is intended for the sole use of the addressee, and may contain
information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under
applicable law. If you are not the addressee you are hereby notified that you
may not use, copy, disclose, or distribute to anyone the message or any
information contained in the message. If you have received this message in
error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete this
message.

Find a Slingshot LFT. TONS of upwind confidence. Fairly light. EASY up
on plane. Not too huge. I had one and LOVED it. I think it was 167cm or
so. I got mine for $200. Ride fast. Take a lot of chances.
Erik
On Jan 31, 2006, at 8:42 AM, pjminor_uk wrote:

I'd be very grateful for some advice about boards suitable for learning
on. Despite looking
all round the web, most of the descriptions of boards seem to be filled
with marketing
hype, and I just can't work out what I should be looking for.

1) I'm 85Kg, very tall (wide stance), with 15 years windsurfing
experience on wave.
2) I have some limited kiting experience on an old wipika 15m, with a 6
foot 8 directional.
I've also had a few lessons.
3) I've just purchased a 2nd hand Slingshot Fuel 13m for learning. (It
may not be the best
option but I'm constrained on funds.)
4) I will sail on the UK coast on rocky/stony beaches, so durability is
important. No real
waves but plenty of chop.
5) I just want a board for learning, zoooming around on, learning to go
upwind and
progressing. Nothing fancy at this stage.

So what should I be looking for in a board and the dimensions baffle me
since beginners
boards seem to come in a range of sizes?
If I was to buy new, I would get an Airush Square 3, but not sure what
boards I should be
going for if I try to get one second hand. SHould I just go for
anything with similar
dimensions thats not too old? I'd prefer to get something good rather
than a cheap thing
which a shop just wants to get off its shelves.

Many thanks for any help you might be able to offer.

Jonathan M








If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
to the most frequently asked questions.

=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
Yahoo! Groups Links

Jonathan, with out trying to sound too much like a wise guy, the best way to
avoid "marketing hype" is to build your own boards from plywood.  I've used
fin-less plywood boards for a couple years and they are great for everyday
use.

I've even cut them down in size to try new shapes. GL...
----- Original Message -----
From: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:54 AM
Subject: [ksurf] Digest Number 3514


There are 4 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

       1. Vegas 06 kites
            From: "fatkidonline" <fatkidonline@...>
       2. Beginner's boards - advice?
            From: "pjminor_uk" <jonathan@...>
       3. RE: Vegas 06 kites
            From: "Klotz, Michael  MD" <michael.klotz@...>
       4. Re: Beginner's boards - advice?
            From: Erik Mermagen <mermagen@...>


________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 1
    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 04:18:37 -0000
    From: "fatkidonline" <fatkidonline@...>
Subject: Vegas 06 kites

Has anyone tried the new north vegas kites? Everyone is hyping them
up. How about the ocean rodeo one kites?? Which is better? I like the
fact that ocean rodeo stuff is built to last more than 6 months.
I have vegas05 kites that work great.





________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 2
    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:42:17 -0000
    From: "pjminor_uk" <jonathan@...>
Subject: Beginner's boards - advice?

I'd be very grateful for some advice about boards suitable for learning on.
Despite looking
all round the web, most of the descriptions of boards seem to be filled with
marketing
hype, and I just can't work out what I should be looking for.

1) I'm 85Kg, very tall (wide stance), with 15 years windsurfing experience
on wave.
2) I have some limited kiting experience on an old wipika 15m, with a 6 foot
8 directional.
I've also had a few lessons.
3) I've just purchased a 2nd hand Slingshot Fuel 13m for learning. (It may
not be the best
option but I'm constrained on funds.)
4) I will sail on the UK coast on rocky/stony beaches, so durability is
important. No real
waves but plenty of chop.
5) I just want a board for learning, zoooming around on, learning to go
upwind and
progressing. Nothing fancy at this stage.

So what should I be looking for in a board and the dimensions baffle me
since beginners
boards seem to come in a range of sizes?
If I was to buy new, I would get an Airush Square 3, but not sure what
boards I should be
going for if I try to get one second hand. SHould I just go for anything
with similar
dimensions thats not too old? I'd prefer to get something good rather than a
cheap thing
which a shop just wants to get off its shelves.

Many thanks for any help you might be able to offer.

Jonathan M








________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 3
    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:01:09 -0800
    From: "Klotz, Michael  MD" <michael.klotz@...>
Subject: RE: Vegas 06 kites

I was in La Ventana last week and demo'd the Vegas '06.  I loved it!  I
currently ride Rhino '04s and prior to that I learned on Rhino '02s (and
survived).  I rode a 10M while I had been on my 12 Rhino.  Very stable,
quick, slt less bar pressure than the Rhino, great going upwind.  I need to
replace at least my 12M this season and am seriously considering the Vegas.
I want to demo the Rhino '06 and slingshot fuels.  I tried the SS Octane and
felt it was too twitchy for my level of learning tricks (I can jump and do a
backrolls only to date).  Tried the Best Waru (sp?) which was my first time
on a Bow kite.  Too much bar pressure in my opinion, but only spent 30 min
on it and didn't fool with tuning.  Great price!
Never tried Ocean Rodeo kites.
I ride mostly in the Gorge and am looking for a kite with wide wind range
and that can handle gusts.  Feedback is welcome.

-----Original Message-----
From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of fatkidonline
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:19 PM
To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ksurf] Vegas 06 kites


Has anyone tried the new north vegas kites? Everyone is hyping them
up. How about the ocean rodeo one kites?? Which is better? I like the
fact that ocean rodeo stuff is built to last more than 6 months.
I have vegas05 kites that work great.





If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
to the most frequently asked questions.

=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
Yahoo! Groups Links








DISCLAIMER:
This message is intended for the sole use of the addressee, and may contain
information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure
under applicable law. If you are not the addressee you are hereby notified
that you may not use, copy, disclose, or distribute to anyone the message or
any information contained in the message. If you have received this message
in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete
this message.


________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 4
    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:44:55 -0500
    From: Erik Mermagen <mermagen@...>
Subject: Re: Beginner's boards - advice?

Find a Slingshot LFT. TONS of upwind confidence. Fairly light. EASY up
on plane. Not too huge. I had one and LOVED it. I think it was 167cm or
so. I got mine for $200. Ride fast. Take a lot of chances.
Erik
On Jan 31, 2006, at 8:42 AM, pjminor_uk wrote:

I'd be very grateful for some advice about boards suitable for learning
on. Despite looking
all round the web, most of the descriptions of boards seem to be filled
with marketing
hype, and I just can't work out what I should be looking for.

1) I'm 85Kg, very tall (wide stance), with 15 years windsurfing
experience on wave.
2) I have some limited kiting experience on an old wipika 15m, with a 6
foot 8 directional.
I've also had a few lessons.
3) I've just purchased a 2nd hand Slingshot Fuel 13m for learning. (It
may not be the best
option but I'm constrained on funds.)
4) I will sail on the UK coast on rocky/stony beaches, so durability is
important. No real
waves but plenty of chop.
5) I just want a board for learning, zoooming around on, learning to go
upwind and
progressing. Nothing fancy at this stage.

So what should I be looking for in a board and the dimensions baffle me
since beginners
boards seem to come in a range of sizes?
If I was to buy new, I would get an Airush Square 3, but not sure what
boards I should be
going for if I try to get one second hand. SHould I just go for
anything with similar
dimensions thats not too old? I'd prefer to get something good rather
than a cheap thing
which a shop just wants to get off its shelves.

Many thanks for any help you might be able to offer.

Jonathan M








If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
to the most frequently asked questions.

=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
Yahoo! Groups Links








________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________


If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
to the most frequently asked questions.

=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links




------------------------------------------------------------------------



---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude/F-Prot Virus]


---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude/F-Prot Virus]

For a comprehensive FAQ on kitesurfing read:
http://www.kitesurfingschool.org/faqs.htm

Take a good read at this FAQ and then search the groups past discussions for
more information (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitesurf/messages).

To unsubscribe, send a message to kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

=====

Here are some basic recommendations for this list in terms of netiquette:

1 No Spam - send mail to the list ONLY about kitesurfing, kiteskiing,
kitesnowboarding or things related to Kites, Boards or Sports.

2 When Replying
- Try not to copy the whole message you are replying and reduce it with <snips>
or just quote the relevant part (this is useful to reduce download times)
- Reply only to the sender (not the whole list) if its something specific to
that person.  Please note that when you click reply, the message automatically
goes to the whole list.

3 Avoid making unconstructive comments about certain equipment - The equipment
manufacturers are on the list and they may not appreciate it.

4 Be helpful and constructive in your responses. Avoid sending a message to the
whole list replying "I don't know".

5 If you are a person involved in the Commerce of kitesurfing equipment , it is
recommended that you add COM to the subject line of messages when commenting on
equipment. Better yet, tell people what you do (e.g, Dealer of so and so kites)

6 Files cannot be sent directly to the list - It is better to post them on the
FILES section of the group or on a web page.

7 To unsubscribe send a message to kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com.

8. Personal attacks should not be on the list. If you can't be nice and you have
to insult someone then do it OFF the list.

Welcome and live with the legend...

I agree on the plywood. Sounds like you need something in the 165 to 180
range with from 15 to 18" width.
If you can find Okume or Maranti marine plywood you can make them out of
3/8" or 9mm. This stuff is much stronger, more uniform and less warpy than
regular plywood. From 1 sheet you can make 3 boards.

It is really strong and has the right amount of flex. You can ride them  flat
in light wind and then they flex into a rockered shape as the wind picks up
and you push into them.

Fins are not required but when you start out they might help in the middle
of the heel side.
small ones on the tips are useful as well.
Fins on the toe-side will be of no use until you ride toe side.... not very
soon.
Where are you located?
George


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

A FYI for you. I don't use a board leash normally, but,
I found I had to come into shore the other day instead of re-launching my
kite from the water because I didn't want to let go of my board (un leashed
to me).
and swim for it later and/or possibly lose it

A friend of mine said he has a short temporary use leash for this kind of
thing.

So now i keep a short thin leash for temporary board attachment to me,
while I swim to my kite in order for it to set up properly to relaunch from
the water.
Haven't used it yet, but not anxious to either.
Good luck


Scott
Imagine Positive Experiences
for Positive Changes


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jonathan,

I have had great success with the Cabrinha Prodigy 158 kiteboard.  I like
this board over other boards because it is large enough to be a forgiving
beginner board, but the edges(rails) are not all big and fat like other big
boards so you can also ride this board with advanced skills and really edge
the board to control your speed.  Big surfboard style rails are going to
equate to super sonic speed in higher winds that will be uncontrollable.  Be
careful with something too large and something with big fat rails..

I have been extremely pleased with the Cabrinh Prodigy 158 twintip.  I would
not suggest a directional as it is much harder to learn to gybe a
directional than to do a reverse heel side slide with a twintip!

Hope this helps!


Chris Moore
www.khkkiteboarding.com
Kiteboarding Instructor


    From: "pjminor_uk" <jonathan@...>
Subject: Beginner's boards - advice?

I'd be very grateful for some advice about boards suitable for learning on.
Despite looking all round the web, most of the descriptions of boards seem
to be filled with marketing hype, and I just can't work out what I should be
looking for.

1) I'm 85Kg, very tall (wide stance), with 15 years windsurfing experience
on wave.
2) I have some limited kiting experience on an old wipika 15m, with a 6 foot
8 directional.
I've also had a few lessons.
3) I've just purchased a 2nd hand Slingshot Fuel 13m for learning. (It may
not be the best option but I'm constrained on funds.)
4) I will sail on the UK coast on rocky/stony beaches, so durability is
important. No real waves but plenty of chop.
5) I just want a board for learning, zoooming around on, learning to go
upwind and progressing. Nothing fancy at this stage.

So what should I be looking for in a board and the dimensions baffle me
since beginners boards seem to come in a range of sizes?
If I was to buy new, I would get an Airush Square 3, but not sure what
boards I should be going for if I try to get one second hand. SHould I just
go for anything with similar dimensions thats not too old? I'd prefer to get
something good rather than a cheap thing which a shop just wants to get off
its shelves.

Many thanks for any help you might be able to offer.

Jonathan M

Hello, Jonathan.
I'm about your weight, 84 kg, but not tall, however I
had the same problem as yours, and now have three
boards... :-)
Well, now I've been using a Best board (Drive), it is
131 x 39 cm , and I'm able to go upwind with a 15 kite
when the wind is blowing at 14 knots at least. I'm
quite satisfied, but still keep my old 165 cm mutant
for those light wind days.
As you have a wide stance, maybe all you need is to
adjust the distance between the pads, to the largest
distance possible. In
fact, I've glued my Best pads to the board. There was
sand being
deposited between the pads and the board, and this was
wearing faster the bottom side of the pads.
Although short in length, the Drive is wide enough to
keep me going upwind even in light winds. So, my
opinion is, what is more important is the board
breadth, not the length. A good dimension for you, as
a beginner, may be something between a length of 135
to 142 cm, and at least a breadth of 40 cm.

And go for a twin board. I also have a North mutant,
but I got
scoliosis from riding toeside to the left all the
time!  :-)

Andre Soares

--- pjminor_uk <jonathan@...> wrote:

> I'd be very grateful for some advice about boards
> suitable for learning on. Despite looking
> all round the web, most of the descriptions of
> boards seem to be filled with marketing
> hype, and I just can't work out what I should be
> looking for.
>
> 1) I'm 85Kg, very tall (wide stance), with 15 years
> windsurfing experience on wave.
> 2) I have some limited kiting experience on an old
> wipika 15m, with a 6 foot 8 directional.
> I've also had a few lessons.
> 3) I've just purchased a 2nd hand Slingshot Fuel 13m
> for learning. (It may not be the best
> option but I'm constrained on funds.)
> 4) I will sail on the UK coast on rocky/stony
> beaches, so durability is important. No real
> waves but plenty of chop.
> 5) I just want a board for learning, zoooming around
> on, learning to go upwind and
> progressing. Nothing fancy at this stage.
>
> So what should I be looking for in a board and the
> dimensions baffle me since beginners
> boards seem to come in a range of sizes?
> If I was to buy new, I would get an Airush Square 3,
> but not sure what boards I should be
> going for if I try to get one second hand. SHould I
> just go for anything with similar
> dimensions thats not too old? I'd prefer to get
> something good rather than a cheap thing
> which a shop just wants to get off its shelves.
>
> Many thanks for any help you might be able to offer.
>
> Jonathan M
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the
> answers
> to the most frequently asked questions.
>
> === to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com

I learned on the ubiquitous Slingshot Drake (147cm?) and when I could stay up
wind reasonably well I jumped down to a Jimmy Lewis Dominatrix 135 and my riding
improved dramatically (I usually ride 12 and 8 m kites but also use it with my
16). Last year I bought a Slingshot SX 151 as my lightwind board and it is great
when I cannot stay upwind on the Jimmy.  I would not get too big of a board
(unless dirt cheap) as you may outgrow it in a few sessons.
Michael Klotz
-----Original Message-----
From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Chris M. Moore
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:16 AM
To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ksurf] Beginner kiteboards




Jonathan,

I have had great success with the Cabrinha Prodigy 158 kiteboard.  I like
this board over other boards because it is large enough to be a forgiving
beginner board, but the edges(rails) are not all big and fat like other big
boards so you can also ride this board with advanced skills and really edge
the board to control your speed.  Big surfboard style rails are going to
equate to super sonic speed in higher winds that will be uncontrollable.  Be
careful with something too large and something with big fat rails..

I have been extremely pleased with the Cabrinh Prodigy 158 twintip.  I would
not suggest a directional as it is much harder to learn to gybe a
directional than to do a reverse heel side slide with a twintip!

Hope this helps!


Chris Moore
www.khkkiteboarding.com
Kiteboarding Instructor


    From: "pjminor_uk" <jonathan@...>
Subject: Beginner's boards - advice?

I'd be very grateful for some advice about boards suitable for learning on.
Despite looking all round the web, most of the descriptions of boards seem
to be filled with marketing hype, and I just can't work out what I should be
looking for.

1) I'm 85Kg, very tall (wide stance), with 15 years windsurfing experience
on wave.
2) I have some limited kiting experience on an old wipika 15m, with a 6 foot
8 directional.
I've also had a few lessons.
3) I've just purchased a 2nd hand Slingshot Fuel 13m for learning. (It may
not be the best option but I'm constrained on funds.)
4) I will sail on the UK coast on rocky/stony beaches, so durability is
important. No real waves but plenty of chop.
5) I just want a board for learning, zoooming around on, learning to go
upwind and progressing. Nothing fancy at this stage.

So what should I be looking for in a board and the dimensions baffle me
since beginners boards seem to come in a range of sizes?
If I was to buy new, I would get an Airush Square 3, but not sure what
boards I should be going for if I try to get one second hand. SHould I just
go for anything with similar dimensions thats not too old? I'd prefer to get
something good rather than a cheap thing which a shop just wants to get off
its shelves.

Many thanks for any help you might be able to offer.

Jonathan M










If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
to the most frequently asked questions.

=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
===
Yahoo! Groups Links








DISCLAIMER:
This message is intended for the sole use of the addressee, and may contain
information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under
applicable law. If you are not the addressee you are hereby notified that you
may not use, copy, disclose, or distribute to anyone the message or any
information contained in the message. If you have received this message in
error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete this
message.

I have to agree with Chris here, I have (and still do) use a Prodigy
158.  It has been a really good board for learning and I am really
happy with it.

~pedro

On Feb 02, 2006, at 11:15, Chris M. Moore wrote:

>
>
> Jonathan,
>
> I have had great success with the Cabrinha Prodigy 158 kiteboard.
> I like
> this board over other boards because it is large enough to be a
> forgiving
> beginner board, but the edges(rails) are not all big and fat like
> other big
> boards so you can also ride this board with advanced skills and
> really edge
> the board to control your speed.  Big surfboard style rails are
> going to
> equate to super sonic speed in higher winds that will be
> uncontrollable.  Be
> careful with something too large and something with big fat rails..
>
> I have been extremely pleased with the Cabrinh Prodigy 158
> twintip.  I would
> not suggest a directional as it is much harder to learn to gybe a
> directional than to do a reverse heel side slide with a twintip!
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>
> Chris Moore
> www.khkkiteboarding.com
> Kiteboarding Instructor

On 1/31/06 12:01 PM, "Klotz, Michael  MD" <michael.klotz@...>
wrote:

> I ride mostly in the Gorge and am looking for a kite with wide wind range and
> that can handle gusts.  Feedback is welcome.


Though they may not be the most high performance kites out there, the peter
lynn venom may be just what you're looking for. They have great range and
are second to none in gusty winds.

The smaller sizes are very fast and not much different from an LEI, however,
the larger sizes are less powerful per square meter vs a larger LEI. They do
have a very high top end though.

If you're in the gorge, I'm assuming you'll need small kites, in which case,
do not overlook them. See if you can try one out, I think you'll like it.
They are incredibly stable, eat up gusts like nothing, and require no pumps,
self inflating (ram air). I flew a 10 and fell in love. Top top kites.

Mykl

Ps- also a good kite for year round kiting (water snow land)

--
Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.

Hello from Athens of Greece.
I want to ask if u know any guides that can make u
feel comfortable in building my own board.
I know its not a 1-2-3 step tutorial but more than
that.
I m willing to give it a try though ;)

--- Dix Franklin <dix@...> wrote:

> Jonathan, with out trying to sound too much like a
> wise guy, the best way to
> avoid "marketing hype" is to build your own boards
> from plywood.  I've used
> fin-less plywood boards for a couple years and they
> are great for everyday
> use.
>
> I've even cut them down in size to try new shapes.
> GL...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:54 AM
> Subject: [ksurf] Digest Number 3514
>
>
> There are 4 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
>       1. Vegas 06 kites
>            From: "fatkidonline"
> <fatkidonline@...>
>       2. Beginner's boards - advice?
>            From: "pjminor_uk"
> <jonathan@...>
>       3. RE: Vegas 06 kites
>            From: "Klotz, Michael  MD"
> <michael.klotz@...>
>       4. Re: Beginner's boards - advice?
>            From: Erik Mermagen
> <mermagen@...>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 04:18:37 -0000
>    From: "fatkidonline" <fatkidonline@...>
> Subject: Vegas 06 kites
>
> Has anyone tried the new north vegas kites? Everyone
> is hyping them
> up. How about the ocean rodeo one kites?? Which is
> better? I like the
> fact that ocean rodeo stuff is built to last more
> than 6 months.
> I have vegas05 kites that work great.
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
>    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:42:17 -0000
>    From: "pjminor_uk" <jonathan@...>
> Subject: Beginner's boards - advice?
>
> I'd be very grateful for some advice about boards
> suitable for learning on.
> Despite looking
> all round the web, most of the descriptions of
> boards seem to be filled with
> marketing
> hype, and I just can't work out what I should be
> looking for.
>
> 1) I'm 85Kg, very tall (wide stance), with 15 years
> windsurfing experience
> on wave.
> 2) I have some limited kiting experience on an old
> wipika 15m, with a 6 foot
> 8 directional.
> I've also had a few lessons.
> 3) I've just purchased a 2nd hand Slingshot Fuel 13m
> for learning. (It may
> not be the best
> option but I'm constrained on funds.)
> 4) I will sail on the UK coast on rocky/stony
> beaches, so durability is
> important. No real
> waves but plenty of chop.
> 5) I just want a board for learning, zoooming around
> on, learning to go
> upwind and
> progressing. Nothing fancy at this stage.
>
> So what should I be looking for in a board and the
> dimensions baffle me
> since beginners
> boards seem to come in a range of sizes?
> If I was to buy new, I would get an Airush Square 3,
> but not sure what
> boards I should be
> going for if I try to get one second hand. SHould I
> just go for anything
> with similar
> dimensions thats not too old? I'd prefer to get
> something good rather than a
> cheap thing
> which a shop just wants to get off its shelves.
>
> Many thanks for any help you might be able to offer.
>
> Jonathan M
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
>    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:01:09 -0800
>    From: "Klotz, Michael  MD"
> <michael.klotz@...>
> Subject: RE: Vegas 06 kites
>
> I was in La Ventana last week and demo'd the Vegas
> '06.  I loved it!  I
> currently ride Rhino '04s and prior to that I
> learned on Rhino '02s (and
> survived).  I rode a 10M while I had been on my 12
> Rhino.  Very stable,
> quick, slt less bar pressure than the Rhino, great
> going upwind.  I need to
> replace at least my 12M this season and am seriously
> considering the Vegas.
> I want to demo the Rhino '06 and slingshot fuels.  I
> tried the SS Octane and
> felt it was too twitchy for my level of learning
> tricks (I can jump and do a
> backrolls only to date).  Tried the Best Waru (sp?)
> which was my first time
> on a Bow kite.  Too much bar pressure in my opinion,
> but only spent 30 min
> on it and didn't fool with tuning.  Great price!
> Never tried Ocean Rodeo kites.
> I ride mostly in the Gorge and am looking for a kite
> with wide wind range
> and that can handle gusts.  Feedback is welcome.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of fatkidonline
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:19 PM
> To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ksurf] Vegas 06 kites
>
>
> Has anyone tried the new north vegas kites? Everyone
> is hyping them
> up. How about the ocean rodeo one kites?? Which is
> better? I like the
> fact that ocean rodeo stuff is built to last more
> than 6 months.
> I have vegas05 kites that work great.
>
>
>
>
>
> If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the
> answers
> to the most frequently asked questions.
>
> === to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> DISCLAIMER:
> This message is intended for the sole use of the
> addressee, and may contain
> information that is privileged, confidential and
> exempt from disclosure
> under applicable law. If you are not the addressee
> you are hereby notified
> that you may not use, copy, disclose, or distribute
> to anyone the message or
> any information contained in the message. If you
> have received this message
> in error, please immediately advise the sender by
> reply email and delete
>
=== message truncated ===


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com

I got the Slinghsot Drake 147 as my 2nd board (my
first was a Lw 169).  I had a real problem staying
upwing with this board while learning.  It is
quite narrow and has lots of rocker for surf
riding, but not that good for under-powered riding.
However, once you get better and feel more confident
taking a a bigger kite out, it should work OK.  It
edges well, but is very stiff.  (I weigh 160
lbs/73kgs)

George.

--- "Klotz, Michael  MD"
<michael.klotz@...> wrote:

> I learned on the ubiquitous Slingshot Drake (147cm?)
> and when I could stay up wind reasonably well I
> jumped down to a Jimmy Lewis Dominatrix 135 and my
> riding improved dramatically (I usually ride 12 and
> 8 m kites but also use it with my 16). Last year I
> bought a Slingshot SX 151 as my lightwind board and
> it is great when I cannot stay upwind on the Jimmy.
> I would not get too big of a board (unless dirt
> cheap) as you may outgrow it in a few sessons.
> Michael Klotz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:kitesurf@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of Chris M. Moore
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:16 AM
> To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ksurf] Beginner kiteboards
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan,
>
> I have had great success with the Cabrinha Prodigy
> 158 kiteboard.  I like
> this board over other boards because it is large
> enough to be a forgiving
> beginner board, but the edges(rails) are not all big
> and fat like other big
> boards so you can also ride this board with advanced
> skills and really edge
> the board to control your speed.  Big surfboard
> style rails are going to
> equate to super sonic speed in higher winds that
> will be uncontrollable.  Be
> careful with something too large and something with
> big fat rails..
>
> I have been extremely pleased with the Cabrinh
> Prodigy 158 twintip.  I would
> not suggest a directional as it is much harder to
> learn to gybe a
> directional than to do a reverse heel side slide
> with a twintip!
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>
> Chris Moore
> www.khkkiteboarding.com
> Kiteboarding Instructor
>
>
>    From: "pjminor_uk" <jonathan@...>
> Subject: Beginner's boards - advice?
>
> I'd be very grateful for some advice about boards
> suitable for learning on.
> Despite looking all round the web, most of the
> descriptions of boards seem
> to be filled with marketing hype, and I just can't
> work out what I should be
> looking for.
>
> 1) I'm 85Kg, very tall (wide stance), with 15 years
> windsurfing experience
> on wave.
> 2) I have some limited kiting experience on an old
> wipika 15m, with a 6 foot
> 8 directional.
> I've also had a few lessons.
> 3) I've just purchased a 2nd hand Slingshot Fuel 13m
> for learning. (It may
> not be the best option but I'm constrained on
> funds.)
> 4) I will sail on the UK coast on rocky/stony
> beaches, so durability is
> important. No real waves but plenty of chop.
> 5) I just want a board for learning, zoooming around
> on, learning to go
> upwind and progressing. Nothing fancy at this stage.
>
> So what should I be looking for in a board and the
> dimensions baffle me
> since beginners boards seem to come in a range of
> sizes?
> If I was to buy new, I would get an Airush Square 3,
> but not sure what
> boards I should be going for if I try to get one
> second hand. SHould I just
> go for anything with similar dimensions thats not
> too old? I'd prefer to get
> something good rather than a cheap thing which a
> shop just wants to get off
> its shelves.
>
> Many thanks for any help you might be able to offer.
>
> Jonathan M
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the
> answers
> to the most frequently asked questions.
>
> === to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> DISCLAIMER:
> This message is intended for the sole use of the
> addressee, and may contain information that is
> privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure
> under applicable law. If you are not the addressee
> you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy,
> disclose, or distribute to anyone the message or any
> information contained in the message. If you have
> received this message in error, please immediately
> advise the sender by reply email and delete this
> message.
>
>
> If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the
> answers
> to the most frequently asked questions.
>
> === to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com

Eric Wilhelm has some instructions on instructables.com on how to make
boards.
Tim Andesen has some information at zeroprestige.org.
In Greece you should have access to Marine Plywood, british standard 1088,
they are usually called okume or maranti. Both of these plywoods have 7
laminations in 9mm, 3/8", and they are solid plys with no voids, this gives lots
of
strength and a good amount of flex.
Here in the US they come 4' x 8', there they are probably 1meter by 2  meters.
From one sheet make a short board 4' x 16" across the top. From the rest
make one board your 'regular' size say 40 x 158. That will leave room for a big
board up to 190 long and really wide. Don't go overboard but a 180 x 60is not
unreasonable for the lightest days. Fins are not required but if you do add
them  put them on the heel side. Put holes in the middle and you can put the
fins  there for your first 3 or 4 sessions then take them off and fill the holes
with  wax.
There you go an instant quiver. Once you are good you will not use the big
board. You can cut it in half, make it smaller and make a travel board out of
it.
Put varnish, paint or epoxy on the wood to protect it. If you have a  router,
round off the edges. If not do it with very rough sand paper. 40 or 50  grit.
Let us know how it goes.
George


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Im a canadien who has started kiting this winter in la ventana, mx.
Ill be here till april then will be heading to canada again for
summer. I live in the yukon during the summer and am looking for
kiters in the area, whitehorse etc... Write back and Ill hook up with
you this summer for some sesions. peace

with all due respect to the those affected by this sad news, one of the ppl
who posted on kiteforum, hinted something about the mishap kitesurfer's
"unsafe" practices. I wonder what he oberserved.

What's more important, tip toeing around the awkward facts and being
politically correct, or getting to the truth of the kind of behavior this
kitesurfer was in the habit of doing.

In my 6 years of kite surfing, I've seen and heard of ppl doing some crazy
stuff, and hell, I've done some weird stuff that I felt , damn, that was
stupid, but then proud of the fact that I survived doing that stupid thing.

any thoughts about this from the group? thanks and be aware of your self.

----- Original Message -----
From: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:39 AM
Subject: [ksurf] Digest Number 3512


There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

       1. the END of this group ???
            From: "Tunico Lage" <alage@...>
       2. Re: Rider Lost
            From: "Doug Haluza" <dhaluza@...>


________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 1
    Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:22:54 -0200
    From: "Tunico Lage" <alage@...>
Subject: the END of this group ???

To the owner/moderator of this mailing list.

I have been a subscriber of this group since 1998. For many years it has
been a source of information, friendship and fun.
Recently I have been receiving  A LOT of spam from the group.
No news, no conversation...just spam !

I would be very sad to unsubscribe from this list.

Please do something !

Thanks,

Tunico Lage




________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 2
    Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:59:39 -0000
    From: "Doug Haluza" <dhaluza@...>
Subject: Re: Rider Lost

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "Larry_Gorham" <larry_gorham@h...> wrote:
>
> A kite surfer was killed in the Long Island Sound last night according
> to WTNH TV near Lordship Beach.  Kite and board were found last night
> and the body was found around noon today, Jan 22.  His friend reported
> him missing at 5 pm yesterday.  The name has not been released yet.
> Another TV station called it a wind surfing accident?
>

For details, see this thread:

http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2324004







________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________


If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the answers
to the most frequently asked questions.

=== to unsubscribe, please send an email to
kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links




------------------------------------------------------------------------



---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude/F-Prot Virus]


---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude/F-Prot Virus]

try bigger board..cabrinha has many also!!!!

carlos rudge
Rio de Janeiro, Br

--- Simone Freire <sfreire_@...> wrote:

> Hello, Jonathan.
> I'm about your weight, 84 kg, but not tall, however
> I
> had the same problem as yours, and now have three
> boards... :-)
> Well, now I've been using a Best board (Drive), it
> is
> 131 x 39 cm , and I'm able to go upwind with a 15
> kite
> when the wind is blowing at 14 knots at least. I'm
> quite satisfied, but still keep my old 165 cm mutant
> for those light wind days.
> As you have a wide stance, maybe all you need is to
> adjust the distance between the pads, to the largest
> distance possible. In
> fact, I've glued my Best pads to the board. There
> was
> sand being
> deposited between the pads and the board, and this
> was
> wearing faster the bottom side of the pads.
> Although short in length, the Drive is wide enough
> to
> keep me going upwind even in light winds. So, my
> opinion is, what is more important is the board
> breadth, not the length. A good dimension for you,
> as
> a beginner, may be something between a length of 135
> to 142 cm, and at least a breadth of 40 cm.
>
> And go for a twin board. I also have a North mutant,
> but I got
> scoliosis from riding toeside to the left all the
> time!  :-)
>
> Andre Soares
>
> --- pjminor_uk <jonathan@...> wrote:
>
> > I'd be very grateful for some advice about boards
> > suitable for learning on. Despite looking
> > all round the web, most of the descriptions of
> > boards seem to be filled with marketing
> > hype, and I just can't work out what I should be
> > looking for.
> >
> > 1) I'm 85Kg, very tall (wide stance), with 15
> years
> > windsurfing experience on wave.
> > 2) I have some limited kiting experience on an old
> > wipika 15m, with a 6 foot 8 directional.
> > I've also had a few lessons.
> > 3) I've just purchased a 2nd hand Slingshot Fuel
> 13m
> > for learning. (It may not be the best
> > option but I'm constrained on funds.)
> > 4) I will sail on the UK coast on rocky/stony
> > beaches, so durability is important. No real
> > waves but plenty of chop.
> > 5) I just want a board for learning, zoooming
> around
> > on, learning to go upwind and
> > progressing. Nothing fancy at this stage.
> >
> > So what should I be looking for in a board and the
> > dimensions baffle me since beginners
> > boards seem to come in a range of sizes?
> > If I was to buy new, I would get an Airush Square
> 3,
> > but not sure what boards I should be
> > going for if I try to get one second hand. SHould
> I
> > just go for anything with similar
> > dimensions thats not too old? I'd prefer to get
> > something good rather than a cheap thing
> > which a shop just wants to get off its shelves.
> >
> > Many thanks for any help you might be able to
> offer.
> >
> > Jonathan M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> > http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the
> > answers
> > to the most frequently asked questions.
> >
> > === to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> > kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >     kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
> If you are new to kitesurfing, please visit
> http://www.KitesurfingSchool.org/faqs.htm for the
> answers
> to the most frequently asked questions.
>
> === to unsubscribe, please send an email to
> kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ===
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     kitesurf-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com

It is great to have all these cold front winds to play with.  Who would have
thought those smaller  kites would come in so handy.  Here are some of the
developments on the FKSA.org website:

- JUPITER KITEBOARDING INVASION - YEAR III
The photos are in and the FIRST (of a few) articles is up.  Waves and wind,
life is good, dial in to see just how good.

- TAMPA KITEBOARD MASTERS
This is the first west coast event in over four years but it is a good one.
Part I, the Boardercross was completed last weekend in strong winds.  Lots
of interesting images came out of it and appear in a couple of articles.

BE SURE to checkout the great action video clips from the Jupiter and Tampa
events at:  http://kiteflix.com/  Nobody does it better than George, well
maybe James Bond, but he uses a juried foil!?


- MIAMI BOARDERCROSS COMPETITION
Is scheduled for TOMORROW!  This may even become a regular event from what
Neil tells me.  Tune in and see what is going on.

- History of Safety in Kiteboarding and tips on Florida Riding
Ryan of ASNEWS.NET interviews yours truly in Podcast # 19 about the history
of safety in kiteboarding, why I bother with this stuff and some comments
about riding around Florida

- AERIAL ASSAULT
The latest and greatest from the video gnomes of Kiteflix.com.  George has
out done himself with the talents of Dimitri going off on the water and in
his sons electric toy jeep on impressive road trips.  Stay tuned and
illustrated review is in the works.  Buy your copy at:  http://kiteflix.com/

- Islamorada Invitational
NOT for the Fifth year, sad to say unless ...

- Winter Riding Conditions in Florida
Thinking about a trip to Florida or to a new launch in the state?  Be sure
to stop by here and check things out.

and a great deal more at:
http://fksa.org/viewforum.php?f=73

AND ...

- Watersboards IS LOOKING for team riders
Nice boards, check 'em out and see what Lloyd has to say
and more at:
http://fksa.org/viewforum.php?f=67

AND ...

Thinking about a trip to the Bahamas?
Talk to AJ and the gang, the guys that live, work and ride there at ...
http://fksa.org/viewforum.php?f=98

AND ...

Tired of reefs, need more vegetables in your diving diet?
Checkout the underwater kelp forests of Catalina Island, California in Off
Topic Extreme ..
http://fksa.org/viewforum.php?f=38



Do you have news about how riding has been, upcoming or past events, great
sessions, guys who are really ripping, access concerns, ideas, questions ...

Tell us here, at http://fksa.org/


FKA, Inc.

transcribed by:
Rick Iossi

http://fksa.org/
http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=131

I went down on business - there's some great prospects there within a growing
economy
and a fairly stable situaton.  You'll not find the quality of product for export
compared to
China but if you wanted to get in on tourism or retirement, there's some obvious
opportunity.

I checked out the close-in beaches - within a couple of hours of Panama: Rio
Mar,
Coronado and Santa Clara.  None would be on my list.  The trend is to make them
private/
limited access or as in Santa Clara - a weekend beach spot for lots of locals. 
The beaches
are slopy with closeuots and it appears the dry season winds may be mostly
side-off.

About 5 hours away is the BEAUTIFUL Pacific coast.  On the drive, the winds were
about
15kts over land, but went flat when we got to the ocean.  Plenty of breaks for
regular
surfing and one beach - Playa Venado - looked perfect to live out the rest of
your surf life.
Compared to DR, Panama appears totally pristine.

Plane tickets are expensive, car rentals not cheap but it's a great place
without 'that
feeling' you get in some under-developed countries.  I'd go back to Cabarete if
I wanted a
kite spot.

Jim

.....I'll add something that I should have read before I went: 
www.kitesurfpanama.com/

It appears that I drove right past the prime spot, and when I saw the other
beaches nearby
it was at high tide and it did not look very appealing.  Some places like
Cabarete have very
little tide, so only the wind is a consideration.

Jim




--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "jim cancil" <wetstuff@...> wrote:
>
> I went down on business - there's some great prospects there within a growing
economy
> and a fairly stable situaton.  You'll not find the quality of product for
export compared
to
> China but if you wanted to get in on tourism or retirement, there's some
obvious
> opportunity.
>
> I checked out the close-in beaches - within a couple of hours of Panama: Rio
Mar,
> Coronado and Santa Clara.  None would be on my list.  The trend is to make
them
private/
> limited access or as in Santa Clara - a weekend beach spot for lots of locals.
The
beaches
> are slopy with closeuots and it appears the dry season winds may be mostly
side-off.
>
> About 5 hours away is the BEAUTIFUL Pacific coast.  On the drive, the winds
were about
> 15kts over land, but went flat when we got to the ocean.  Plenty of breaks for
regular
> surfing and one beach - Playa Venado - looked perfect to live out the rest of
your surf
life.
> Compared to DR, Panama appears totally pristine.
>
> Plane tickets are expensive, car rentals not cheap but it's a great place
without 'that
> feeling' you get in some under-developed countries.  I'd go back to Cabarete
if I wanted
a
> kite spot.
>
> Jim
>

Hi all,

I shall be going to the west coast of France with the family this
summer, and wondered if there are any good spots on the Vendee coast, or
the south of Brittany? I'm advanced beginner stage - happily cruising up
and down, but no tricks as yet - so no huge shore breaks if possible:)

Julian

--
Julian Luttrell
julian@...

The variety that survives best is the one that best survives

Following the success of the 2005 Winterlude Kite Demonstration event,
the school Kitesurfingschool.org Ottawa (VL Kites) and the NCC again
teamed up to organize a kite demonstration event for Winterlude 2006 on
Feb 11 and 12.  Again, this is the world first large scale winter kite
demonstration event for a very large number of non-kiter audiences,
fully insured with $2,000,000 public liability insurance.  Due to the
large number of surrounding audiences, only instructors or riders with
more than 3-year experiences were invited to ride in the event.

The main objectives of the event are to:

    1.      Show the northern climate way of life
    2.      Promote kiting to a very large group of non-kiters (650,000+)
    3.      Make kiting a legitimate and official sport.

The event was fully supported by the kite manufacturers and the kite
magazines.

Full report and lots of photos at
http://kitesurfingschool.org/Winterlude2006/Winterlude.htm

Hung.

2003 Globerider Lift 17.3M and 2004 Globerider Lift2 12M both
complete: each kite has it own: bag,pump,repair kit,bar/lines.

The 17.3M has a slow leak on one of the smallest bladders but I have
a brand new replacement airtime bladder for it that you just have to
install. Color orange/gery

The 12M is like new, flown only a few times but has a 1.5 inch tear
which has been repaired proffessionaly by North Sails. This 12M is a
super kite and like I mentioned is like new. Color Blue/Neon green.

If you want pics just let me know, I could not get any pics right now
since it is winter outside but if you wanted I will bring them in for
pics.



Total price: $900.00 for both.

Thanks,

Gerard

Been playing with traction kites and a mountain board the last few
weeks.  Today I had a two hour lesson in kiteboarding and put it all
together.  After that, and a few hours of practicing what I learned,
I was able to get onto a plane.

Instructor shows upearly, and I was practicing with my 14m... had
self launched and was able to bring it to the both edges of the wind
window.  He was able to fine tune what I had taught myself, and put
me on track with the correct skills and methods.

For any other newbies to the sport...  a lesson helps keep you safe,
and really accelerates the learning curve.  Having some basic kite
skills already, in two hours I was able to body drag upwind, water
re-launch the kite, self rescue... and get onto a plane!

I could at least hold my position in relation to the shore by the
end of the day... another outing or two, and I bet I can start going
upwind.

But after all those people saying "take a lesson".... now I know why.

Does anyone have a reccomendation for a kiting spot in mexico that
will have decent wind in june or july, have a safe, flatwater place
for my beginer wife to practice, and relatively inexpensive lodging?
2 small children are included in our package...

peace,
Peter

Hi all I'm looking to buy a new kite. I'm looking at the new bow style
kites but are they really worth the extra money? I can get a new 2005
naish V4 16m half the price of one of the new bow kites. I want to use
my kites for flat water as well as wave riding.

I have the following:

2003 naish Aero2 12m
2003 155mm naish twin tip
2005 140mm Cyclone twin tip

Thanks