Hi All

Does anybody know an insurance company that will insure kiters
against liability etc in Australia?

Its been suggested I try www.aksa.com.au who claim that:

"The initial reason behind forming the association was to provide
members with a nationally recognised insurance policy that covers the
liabilty of the member whilst kite surfing."

But then neglect to actually show policy details on their site! Is
there anyone else other than AKSA?

Jay

Scott,

That's a REALLY good point and question to pose to the marketing and
advertising folks at Naish!   :-)

cheers

jp



> If it's the wrong sport for 99%
> of the population then Naish wouldn't be making much money and the
> sport wouldn't be as popular as it is becoming.
> Scott

The aksa is it as far as I am aware, unless you wanted to aproach
insurance companys yourself - but that'll cost you a bit more than
the $50 to join aksa.

Have you contacted aksa and asked them for details about the policy?
there must be email addresses on the website...

Callum

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "ozkiter <ozkiter@y...>"
<ozkiter@y...> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Does anybody know an insurance company that will insure kiters
> against liability etc in Australia?
>
> Its been suggested I try www.aksa.com.au who claim that:
>
> "The initial reason behind forming the association was to provide
> members with a nationally recognised insurance policy that covers
the
> liabilty of the member whilst kite surfing."
>
> But then neglect to actually show policy details on their site! Is
> there anyone else other than AKSA?
>
> Jay

$60.00 now-and why wouldn't you join?
Shit, doubt you could do any better via a broker.
Hope I NEVER need the coverage.

Hey, Callum wanna buy a light wind board? ;-)
Matt


----- Original Message -----
From: <callum_downie@...>
To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 3:47 PM
Subject: [ksurf] Re: Kite Insurance in Australia


> The aksa is it as far as I am aware, unless you wanted to aproach
> insurance companys yourself - but that'll cost you a bit more than
> the $50 to join aksa.
>
> Have you contacted aksa and asked them for details about the policy?
> there must be email addresses on the website...
>
> Callum
>
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "ozkiter <ozkiter@y...>"
> <ozkiter@y...> wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > Does anybody know an insurance company that will insure kiters
> > against liability etc in Australia?
> >
> > Its been suggested I try www.aksa.com.au who claim that:
> >
> > "The initial reason behind forming the association was to provide
> > members with a nationally recognised insurance policy that covers
> the
> > liabilty of the member whilst kite surfing."
> >
> > But then neglect to actually show policy details on their site! Is
> > there anyone else other than AKSA?
> >
> > Jay
>
>
> to unsubscribe send a message to kitesurf-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

I see you have the old boat for sale Matt... good luck!
I have a new yellow underground lightwind board thats doing me just
fine thank you very much!
You must be about due to come out this way and get your butt spanked
by some surf!

Callum

Ohh and happy new year!

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "MLJ" <flightcorro@h...> wrote:
> $60.00 now-and why wouldn't you join?
> Shit, doubt you could do any better via a broker.
> Hope I NEVER need the coverage.
>
> Hey, Callum wanna buy a light wind board? ;-)
> Matt
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <callum_downie@h...>
> To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 3:47 PM
> Subject: [ksurf] Re: Kite Insurance in Australia
>
>
> > The aksa is it as far as I am aware, unless you wanted to aproach
> > insurance companys yourself - but that'll cost you a bit more than
> > the $50 to join aksa.
> >
> > Have you contacted aksa and asked them for details about the
policy?
> > there must be email addresses on the website...
> >
> > Callum
> >
> > --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "ozkiter <ozkiter@y...>"
> > <ozkiter@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > Does anybody know an insurance company that will insure kiters
> > > against liability etc in Australia?
> > >
> > > Its been suggested I try www.aksa.com.au who claim that:
> > >
> > > "The initial reason behind forming the association was to
provide
> > > members with a nationally recognised insurance policy that
covers
> > the
> > > liabilty of the member whilst kite surfing."
> > >
> > > But then neglect to actually show policy details on their site!
Is
> > > there anyone else other than AKSA?
> > >
> > > Jay
> >
> >
> > to unsubscribe send a message to kitesurf-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >

UK only please :-)
Please email for details ::

    john.glazebrook<--AT-->idesta.com

replace the <--AT--> with an @ :-)

hey,

i am ~85kg and use the WT 137 with all my Gaastra GXR (8-20m²).
it could work for me as one and only board, but for light winds with
flat water i have got an Underground FD 138x40.
so i think the wt142 or the 137 is perfect for you!
- take the 137  :-)

Frank

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "kitesurf73 <kitesurf73@y...>"
<kitesurf73@y...> wrote:
> Hello and merry chrismas and happy new year.......
>
> Just wondering about the sizes of the wave trays,,,,,
>
> I can only afford one wave tray so wich size ?????On the
underground
> site they recomd the 147  but if yore lighter weight than average
> wich i am 73 kg they recomend the 142 .....
>
> But 142 in my mind thats a small board rather a high wind board??
>
> But since i never have tried the wave tray???? ..and im not going
to
> be able to try one cause theres no dealers for about 300 miles that
> sell them here........
>
> So any info on size would be great!!!!
>
> Average wind in my area is about 10-24 knots and im using a 11,8
> wipika and a cabrinha 9,4 blactip and a naish AR3 5 thats
collecting
> dust on a shelf:)
>
>
> HAppy hollidays and wind......
>
>
> PS:I would be happy to start a kite/board shop in Sweden  if
someone
> help me with a little financing:)With underground boards of
> course........
>
>
> ANd

Palanning a trip down to Hatteras the end of March/first of April. Can anyone
offer some input as to what the conditions would normally be like and where
would be a good, inexpensive place to stay?

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "campbelljmcintyre
<campbell.mcintyre@n...>" <campbell.mcintyre@n...> wrote:
> Anyone got any good suggestions for wetsuits for use in cold water (
> Scotland )? My current thinking is 5/4mm semi dry with slick cuffs,
> chill cheater undergarments and dry gloves / boots. Anyone using a
> drysuit or are they to restrictive?

You'll want a good pair of mits for sure. Something that won't tear if you have
to pull your kite in with one of the lines. I ruined a new pair of gloves doing
just
that last month.

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "John Penxa <johnpenxa@h...>" <johnpenxa@h...>
wrote:
> Scott,
>
> That's a REALLY good point and question to pose to the marketing and
> advertising folks at Naish!   :-)
>
> cheers
>
> jp
>
>
>
> > If it's the wrong sport for 99%
> > of the population then Naish wouldn't be making much money and the
> > sport wouldn't be as popular as it is becoming.
> > Scott

Huh?  ... the world has a population of around 6.3 billion ... I think
Naish's marketing and advertising folks should be capable of grabbing
a big enough enough market share out of the 63 millon people they
didn't exclude ;-)

Steve T.

Hi everyone,

I'm starting data collection for a research project about the
Internet and
sports information.

If you have ever used the Internet to look up any information
pertaining to
sports, I would appreciate if you would fill out my survey.  It
should take
between 11- 15 minutes to complete and you could win a prize!!

http://apps.ws.utk.edu/sportsweb/

As part of the convenience sampling procedures we've including
a "snowball"
option - we're asking you to please send the survey on to your
friends and
family who also go online for sports information.  There's a form
at the
end of the survey on which you'll enter your friends' email
addresses and
they'll be whisked the URL.

Thanks so much for your help.

Happy holidays,

TJ

I have no need to defend the 2002 Cabrinha's their performance speaks
for themselves.

I just have one question for "hot" zlz2au@....

If the 2002 BT's are crap then what do you refer to as good?

Rooster

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, hot <z1z2au@y...> wrote:
> good luck but the 2002 were such a crap kite any
> improvement would be good
> shame you don't have something decent to compare your
> new kite too
>
> --- kiteboardingjapan <nick@h...> wrote:
> > --- In kitesurf@y..., "Chris Auld" <Chris@n...>
> > wrote:
> > > I picked up a 14 the other day (I also have a 02
> > 9.4 and 15.5). I
> > > haven't had a good go on the 14 yet. Build quality
> > is a bit better
> > > again- there wasn't all that much they could
> > imporve on- my only
> > gripe
> > > is that they haven't pur reinforcing caps on the
> > end of the LE
> > bladder.
> > >
> > > It flys faster than my 9.4 (13m equiv). Haven't
> > had enough time on
> > the
> > > board to say much more than that....
> > > Oh... But the Powerlock ROCKS and the new
> > lightweight carbon bars
> > are
> > > good too- about time on the bars.
> >
> > What do you think about the depower strap? Also,
> > could you let us
> > know if the kite leash releases okay from the
> > harness?
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > to unsubscribe send a message to
> > kitesurf-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
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>
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Kitexcite is offering a IKO certification course Jan 20-24 with the
opportunity to teach at the school afterward to put your newly
learned skills to practice:-)  Cost is $550/pp.  Lodging will be
provided by Kite Beach Hotel.  Room rates vary from $23 for a budget
room, $26 standard room, $60 junior suite.  All rates are for single
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contact me!

Does anyone have a link or know of someone with a comprehensive list of
upcoming kitesurfing events in the US or elsewhere?

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------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Come join our thriving community of kiteflyers!

With disappointment, I am writing to inform you of the official
RESCHEDULING of Red Bull Kite Freeze.  Previously scheduled for January
17-19, due to lack of snow we will be unable to hold the event on those
dates and have rescheduled for Feb. 14-16, 2003.

The ice conditions are questionable right now, there is no snow and no
major storms forecasted in the near future.  Suffice to say these
conditions do not present the riding conditions we desire or, in fact,
need to safely and enjoyably hold Red Bull Kite Freeze.  While
disappointed that we find ourselves needing to reschedule the event once
again, we remain as committed as ever to the kiting community and look
forward to a successful winter kiting event on Feb. 14-16.

Warmest Regards,

Red Bull Kite Freeze Management

Check out www.realkiteboarding.com and talk to Llew Simmons!

Rob
www.capesport.co.za
South Africa


----- Original Message -----
From: <fownesy@...>
To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:22 PM
Subject: [ksurf] Cape Hatteras


Palanning a trip down to Hatteras the end of March/first of April. Can
anyone
offer some input as to what the conditions would normally be like and where
would be a good, inexpensive place to stay?


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You are heading down the best time of year. April is their
windiest month. If you are there for at least a week it should be a
good trip. Wind wise you should see a range from 10 to 30 knts so
bring all your stuff to cover all the bases. The water in the sound
is very mellow. Even in winds up to 25-30 knts it doesn't get bigger
than a foot or 2. The water temp in the sound is totally dependent on
the weather. If it is a warm week ie wind out of the south it's
conceivable that you could be in a shorty maybe even just a swim
suit. If it's cold ie wind out of the north you will definitely be
most comfortable in a steamer. The Ocean will probably require a full
suit no matter what ( around 50-60 degrees) and the surf can be
mellow to macking.
    As far as accomodations go renting a house is by far the best deal
if you have enough people to share the cost. You can rent a place in
any town on the cape but I suggest you get one in Avon. It's central
and all the shops are there where you can get plenty of advice on
where to kite. Here's a good site for rentals.
http://www.hatterasrealty.com/

Have a great trip,
Ace

> Palanning a trip down to Hatteras the end of March/first of April.
Can anyone
> offer some input as to what the conditions would normally be like
and where
> would be a good, inexpensive place to stay?

Hi Guys,
         Heres another 2 cents.
when was the last time you looked in any magazine and saw your
average joe somebody in his budgie smugglers smiling at the camera.
When did you last see an average looking individual on the cover of
cosmopolitan magazine.

Unfortunately aesthetics as it is commonly known as is the heart and
soul of the advertising world. Magazines only became seperate from
newspapers in the early days because of advertising restrictions.

It really pisses me off to hear males batting for women on the
sexism issue. I am not saying it should be done but I think there is
a fair bit of eye candy for women at any good kiteboarding location.
So why not in a kiteboarding magazine. Oh yeah did I mention sex
sells?

Ok So i'll try and sum up what you want:
1: A magazine that agrees with your opinions on the equipment
reviews of all thier products.
2: A magazine with no witty slogans
3: An uninthusiastic editor
4: A magazine filled with pictures of middle aged men and women
landing thier first backloops.

And what the fuck is wrong with wearing board shorts over your
wetsuit. Sounds to me like you are subscribing to the same morals as
you quite obviously detest. In my opinion you can kiteboard in
whatever you want as long as you are safe.

Now you have got me all pissed off and have clouded the issue with
bullshit. The real issue is not sexism or pants over your wetsuit or
helmet man its safety. Ignoring safety will get you killed sexism at
worst will get you a good slap in the face. I am disgusted to see
that at the beginning of ever kiteboarding magazine on the first
page these words do ot appear.

ATTENTION ALL KITEBOARDERS AND PROSPECTIVES.
KITEBOARDING IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND SHOULD ONLY BE UNDERTAKEN IN
LOCATIONS WHERE IT IS LEGAL TO KITEBOARD, BY INDIVIDUALS WITH THE
CORRECT KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY. ALL KITEBOARDERS FEATURED IN THIS
MAGAZINE ARE PROFESSIONALS AND HAVE ONLY GOT THIS WAY THROUGH
LEARNING IN THE PROPER MANNER. IF YOU ARE KITEBOARDING AMONGST OTHER
KITEBOARDERS YOU MUST WEAR A KITE LEASH. FAILURE TO WEAR A LEASH CAN
LEAD TO DEATH. FAILURE TO ANALYSE A KITEBOARDING LOCATION CORRECTLY
CAN LEAD TO DEATH. FAILURE TO CONSTANTLY ANALYSE CHANGING WEATHER
PATTERNS CAN LEAD TO DEATH. FAILURE TO WEAR ADEQUATE FLOTATION AND
IMPACT PROTECTION DEVICE CAN LEAD TO DEATH. IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE
CONSULT A PROFESSIONAL FOR ADVICE ON LESSONS AND TRAINING BEFORE
ATTEMPTING THIS SPORT. YOU MAY ALSO WANT TO INVESTIGATE WHAT
INSURANCE IS AVAILABLE IN YOUR AREA TO GUARD AGAINST THIRD PARTY
PERSONAL AND PROPERTY DAMAGE LIABILITY. THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN
INJURING OR KILLING YOURSELF IS INJURING OR KILLING SOMEONE ELSE. IF
YOU SEE ANOTHER KITEBOARDER DOING SOMETHING YOU DEEM DANGEROUS GO
AND OFFER ASSISTANCE. PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE.

Now all that jibbering and I hope I got the message through and all
you people see the real picture. We can not stop everyone from
buying a kite, not getting a lesson and going out and doing the
kiteboarding world and themselves an injustice by having an
accident. Next time you have something pertinent to add to the forum
don't cloud it with sexist, opinionated propaganda. Who knows I
might just agree with you.

DRO.

psst... ....

> That's a REALLY good point and question to pose to the marketing and
> advertising folks at Naish!   :-)
>
> cheers
>
> jp
>
> >If it's the wrong sport for 99%
> >of the population then Naish wouldn't be making much money and the
> >sport wouldn't be as popular as it is becoming.
> >Scott

Actually that's a real poor statement . Why?
Robby was probably making a rhetorical point with his comment -
for the Sport of Kiteboarding is WAY LESS THAN 1% OF the World Population.
FYI
what is 1% of 6 billion, (the current approximate
population of the world) ? lets say 60 million.
thats a lot of kiters I hope we never see!- roughly double the population of
California.
Do you honestly believe their are 60 million kiters in the world?
:-0
OR
Let's see if Robby was talking ONLY about the USA-
Or just 1% of the USA - 240 million? say- 2.4 million - about the Population
of the San Fernando Valley in LA.
Again, that's alot of kiters I hope we never see.

Here's a good ass-scratching question=

  What are the REAL estimate numbers of kiteboarders in the world?

Its Fool the Guesser time....

  Karter


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I do kite repair. Top results. Fair prices, fast turn arround. ( Com )

ok, ok, ok, as long as we're getting technical about this.... i just
checked my naish t-shirt again, and it actually says "99.9% of the
world's population" so we're talking about 6 million, not 60 million.

now 6 million is still probably more than the real number...especially
when you consider that they came out with that ad/line a couple years
ago before kiteboarding started to explode. and even though it may come
off as elitist or full of attitude, the statement is pretty much true.
all things considered (cost, safety, access, interest, etc.) it is
absolutely, positively the wrong sport for 99.9% of the world's
population.


On Saturday, January 4, 2003, at 02:56 AM, LA2WNDSRF@... wrote:

> psst... ....
>
>> That's a REALLY good point and question to pose to the marketing and
>> advertising folks at Naish!   :-)
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> jp
>>
>>> If it's the wrong sport for 99%
>>> of the population then Naish wouldn't be making much money and the
>>> sport wouldn't be as popular as it is becoming.
>>> Scott
>
> Actually that's a real poor statement . Why?
> Robby was probably making a rhetorical point with his comment -
> for the Sport of Kiteboarding is WAY LESS THAN 1% OF the World
> Population.
> FYI
> what is 1% of 6 billion, (the current approximate
> population of the world) ? lets say 60 million.
> thats a lot of kiters I hope we never see!- roughly double the
> population of
> California.
> Do you honestly believe their are 60 million kiters in the world?
> :-0
> OR
> Let's see if Robby was talking ONLY about the USA-
> Or just 1% of the USA - 240 million? say- 2.4 million - about the
> Population
> of the San Fernando Valley in LA.
> Again, that's alot of kiters I hope we never see.
>
> Here's a good ass-scratching question=
>
>  What are the REAL estimate numbers of kiteboarders in the world?
>
> Its Fool the Guesser time....
>
>  Karter



~~~~~
Hello, my name is Randy, and I am a windaholic...

Can y go backwards on a mutant 4.8 ?

I want do buy a mutant 4.8 because of its fins and edging abilities
for more speed and higher jumps.....
But as I will not want to jibe everytime, I would like to know if I
can ride it backwards like a TT ?!
Or is there any other mutant whith these abilities??


Thanks
Lars

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, KiteBoard@a... wrote:
> You can use nylon tent repair tape, from the sporting goods store.
>
> Mel

Im talking about major repair. Like if your kite got trashed in the
surf and is in 2 peices.

You can easily go backwards on the 4.8 (I assume you are talking
about the Naish Mutant 4.8 ?).
Not as pleasant and good trim as a TT of course, but still REALLY
easy.

:-) Peter

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "larsreiles <larsreiles@y...>"
<larsreiles@y...> wrote:
> Can y go backwards on a mutant 4.8 ?
>
> I want do buy a mutant 4.8 because of its fins and edging abilities
> for more speed and higher jumps.....
> But as I will not want to jibe everytime, I would like to know if I
> can ride it backwards like a TT ?!
> Or is there any other mutant whith these abilities??
>
>
> Thanks
> Lars

Where are ya at ?
I have 2 kites in FL need repair
Raul
On Sat, 04 Jan 2003 14:04:06 -0000 "yacmur <mikes@...>"
<mikes@...> writes:
> I do kite repair. Top results. Fair prices, fast turn arround. ( Com
> )
>
>
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>
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Hi Lars,

I ride a Mutant 4'11" as my main board.  Never been on a 4'8".  I do a lot of
wave riding, which is where this board excels.  IMO, it is the best wave-board I
have ever been on.  It is by far my favorite board to ride.

I never jibe it.  It rides backwards very nicely, although less efficiently than
riding forward.  I also do a lot of toe-side riding when riding left and it
works great.  The one thing I would suggest, though, is to consider the 4'11". 
the 4'8" is geared towards high winds.  It is too small for real world
conditions (too narrow).  Unless you are a tiny rider, a 4'11" is your best bet.

By the way, in your post you say "I want do buy a mutant 4.8 because of its fins
and edging abilities for more speed and higher jumps.....".  If this is your
purpose, and not wave-riding, I'd recommend the 2003 4'9" TT instead.  It is
much better for free-style riding if you don't jibe and are not into waves.  The
Mutants don't jump as well going backwards because it's harder to go fast that
way.

Boaz



>Can y go backwards on a mutant 4.8 ?
>
>I want do buy a mutant 4.8 because of its fins and edging abilities
>for more speed and higher jumps.....
>But as I will not want to jibe everytime, I would like to know if I
>can ride it backwards like a TT ?!
>Or is there any other mutant whith these abilities??
>
>
>Thanks
>Lars
>
>
>to unsubscribe send a message to kitesurf-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
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Thanks for these answers.
I am happy tu hear that backwards riding is posssible, even when it
is not its purpose.
An I weigh 72 Kg, I think, I can go small and take the 4.8 Naish.

You are right. I am not interested in waves. I have allready an 6.6
Skypirat, an 150 naish wake which is too big, then I constructed me
an other wake of 140cm which I like, but it is not fast, and when I
go fast , I lose rapidly the edge and slide.
Concerning the 4.9, I think it is too big for a TT : 12 l volume.

I have folloved the discussions about MUTANTS concerning the
stability and edging in overpovered conditions due to their FINS.
So, I was also interested into the SURF MORF by John Doyle.
I hope that the egging before the jump will be more effective on a
mutant
I even transformed the Wake into a semi-directional, and the edging
was better.

Too cold to kite now......
Lars





--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "AirGear.com" <bo@a...> wrote:
> Hi Lars,
>
> I ride a Mutant 4'11" as my main board.  Never been on a 4'8".  I
do a lot of wave riding, which is where this board excels.  IMO, it
is the best wave-board I have ever been on.  It is by far my
favorite board to ride.
>
> I never jibe it.  It rides backwards very nicely, although less
efficiently than riding forward.  I also do a lot of toe-side riding
when riding left and it works great.  The one thing I would suggest,
though, is to consider the 4'11".  the 4'8" is geared towards high
winds.  It is too small for real world conditions (too narrow).
Unless you are a tiny rider, a 4'11" is your best bet.
>
> By the way, in your post you say "I want do buy a mutant 4.8
because of its fins and edging abilities for more speed and higher
jumps.....".  If this is your purpose, and not wave-riding, I'd
recommend the 2003 4'9" TT instead.  It is much better for free-
style riding if you don't jibe and are not into waves.  The Mutants
don't jump as well going backwards because it's harder to go fast
that way.
>
> Boaz
>
>
>
> >Can y go backwards on a mutant 4.8 ?
> >
> >I want do buy a mutant 4.8 because of its fins and edging
abilities
> >for more speed and higher jumps.....
> >But as I will not want to jibe everytime, I would like to know if
I
> >can ride it backwards like a TT ?!
> >Or is there any other mutant whith these abilities??
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >Lars
> >
> >
> >to unsubscribe send a message to kitesurf-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
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>
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Underground say that a 147cm is a good allround size, and they are
right!  I have a 147 and weigh 72-75, you need to be well powered all
the time to ride something smaller than this, and if you are just
over 6ft tall anything shorter than this feels too short.  If you
have a big 3+ quiver of kites closely spaced and don't have gusty
conditions you can go for a 142 or 137, but for light wind even the
147 is not great, you need a flat rockered FD or Smorgasboard! So if
you have to have one board, the 147..

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "rosinfrank <rosinfrank@y...>"
<rosinfrank@y...> wrote:
> hey,
>
> i am ~85kg and use the WT 137 with all my Gaastra GXR (8-20m²).
> it could work for me as one and only board, but for light winds
with
> flat water i have got an Underground FD 138x40.
> so i think the wt142 or the 137 is perfect for you!
> - take the 137  :-)
>
> Frank
>
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "kitesurf73 <kitesurf73@y...>"
> <kitesurf73@y...> wrote:
> > Hello and merry chrismas and happy new year.......
> >
> > Just wondering about the sizes of the wave trays,,,,,
> >
> > I can only afford one wave tray so wich size ?????On the
> underground
> > site they recomd the 147  but if yore lighter weight than average
> > wich i am 73 kg they recomend the 142 .....
> >
> > But 142 in my mind thats a small board rather a high wind board??
> >
> > But since i never have tried the wave tray???? ..and im not going
> to
> > be able to try one cause theres no dealers for about 300 miles
that
> > sell them here........
> >
> > So any info on size would be great!!!!
> >
> > Average wind in my area is about 10-24 knots and im using a 11,8
> > wipika and a cabrinha 9,4 blactip and a naish AR3 5 thats
> collecting
> > dust on a shelf:)
> >
> >
> > HAppy hollidays and wind......
> >
> >
> > PS:I would be happy to start a kite/board shop in Sweden  if
> someone
> > help me with a little financing:)With underground boards of
> > course........
> >
> >
> > ANd

They recommend the 147 for average riders as an only board-and they say
average is 80kg and that anyone lighter could go the 142 as their only
board.

----- Original Message -----
From: <timfriedel@...>
To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:19 AM
Subject: [ksurf] Re: wich size wave tray ???


Underground say that a 147cm is a good allround size, and they are
right!  I have a 147 and weigh 72-75, you need to be well powered all
the time to ride something smaller than this, and if you are just
over 6ft tall anything shorter than this feels too short.  If you
have a big 3+ quiver of kites closely spaced and don't have gusty
conditions you can go for a 142 or 137, but for light wind even the
147 is not great, you need a flat rockered FD or Smorgasboard! So if
you have to have one board, the 147..

--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "rosinfrank <rosinfrank@y...>"
<rosinfrank@y...> wrote:
> hey,
>
> i am ~85kg and use the WT 137 with all my Gaastra GXR (8-20m²).
> it could work for me as one and only board, but for light winds
with
> flat water i have got an Underground FD 138x40.
> so i think the wt142 or the 137 is perfect for you!
> - take the 137  :-)
>
> Frank
>
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "kitesurf73 <kitesurf73@y...>"
> <kitesurf73@y...> wrote:
> > Hello and merry chrismas and happy new year.......
> >
> > Just wondering about the sizes of the wave trays,,,,,
> >
> > I can only afford one wave tray so wich size ?????On the
> underground
> > site they recomd the 147  but if yore lighter weight than average
> > wich i am 73 kg they recomend the 142 .....
> >
> > But 142 in my mind thats a small board rather a high wind board??
> >
> > But since i never have tried the wave tray???? ..and im not going
> to
> > be able to try one cause theres no dealers for about 300 miles
that
> > sell them here........
> >
> > So any info on size would be great!!!!
> >
> > Average wind in my area is about 10-24 knots and im using a 11,8
> > wipika and a cabrinha 9,4 blactip and a naish AR3 5 thats
> collecting
> > dust on a shelf:)
> >
> >
> > HAppy hollidays and wind......
> >
> >
> > PS:I would be happy to start a kite/board shop in Sweden  if
> someone
> > help me with a little financing:)With underground boards of
> > course........
> >
> >
> > ANd


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