thanks bud
i will try it that way and lmao i know what you mean about slamming
into the wet stuff it is a lot more forgiving than a beach
and your advice is a lot more useful than some comments i got
and your right water launch is a new exp for me but i should get the
hang of it quick
nice one again bud.
chris
--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, Steve <stevesgroups@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Dude -
>
> First off - make a control bar for one of your smaller 2-3 meter - four
> line stunt kites and play with it a bit. It's not much different but
> you'll save wear and tear on your X4. fronts go to your harness and
> rears to the bar ends. The biggest diff between that type of trainer
and
> a X4 is that on the X4 when you pull on the bar you get more power not
> less. You can't stall an X4 - so set up your line lengths so you can't
> stall the trainer kite to get the right feel
>
> 2nd - go look at some 5 line control bars - that's what you need. They
> are pretty cheap these days -Your best bet is a Naish 5 line control
> bar. Next would be some other brand. I like and use North bars on
Naish
> kites. Harness - if your waist is smaller than your chest get a waist
> harness. If it is bigger get a seat harness.
>
> 3rd- don't start on land with the 16, there is no point - you know how
> to fly a kite right? Get out in the water so if you get slammed you
hit
> water- much softer and what you need to learn right off is how to do a
> water relaunch, you've never had a kite that could do that.
>
> Steve
> Carson City, Nevada, USA
>
> lord_stone_monkey wrote:
> >
> > thanks for the advice even though i know your probably right i will
> > probably ignore it (i do that allot)
> > i had some lessons given to me for my "ehemh cough" birthday.lol but
> > theay went tits up as a company.
> > i am the kind of nut that grabs the bull by the horns much to the
> > amusement of my mates.
> > when i flew my nassa for the first time as i was dragged and bumped
> > over the rocks at llanaber north wales in A 15 mph of shore,
> > never used break lines before and didn't see the need for the things.
> > (any how the bruise that went down the right hand side of my body from
> > face to shin healed in about 5 or 6 weeks no biggy)
> > the reason i got my nassa was because the guy in the shop said the
> > smaller version killed a guy the week before.
> > (dragged him through a wall)
> > i was thinking YES REAL POWER as i handed him the cash.
> > i can fly and jump it now using my old climbing harness tied to my
> > bars lol bit daft i know but,
> > acting with out thinking can be entertaining at times.
> > using my nassa to power my kayak across the lake at bala when i lost
> > wind half way across, i ended up with a wet kite, and dumbo, thought
> > there was no need to take the paddle, so ended up swimming towing a
> > boat and 10 mtrs of soggy kite.
> > try it its kind of fun on a warm day.
> > so what can you advise to minimise death? lol
> > death makes you antisocial, i had a mate that caught death he never
> > comes round or calls any more.
> > having someone put me in the right direction would be nice so i dont
> > waist cash on stuff i dont need .
> > i do fully intend to use it on land before i take to the sea start off
> > small in ponds(on short lines) and work my way up.
> > and as for the safety of others i dont intend to have a crowd to watch
> > the fool for the first time (apart from me mate dave, my old climbing
> > partner, who takes great delight watching the stone monkey getting
> > banged up on rocks.
> > take it easy
> > chris
> >
> > --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com <mailto:kitesurf%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > George <ynotkite@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > I'm glad to hear you're getting (or getting back ) into flying
> > kites. However, much has
> > > changed over the years...
> > > Kitesurfing can be dangerous. Search on 'kiteforum.com' for
> > 'fatalities' and you'll see what
> > > I mean.
> > > For your safety (and the safety of others) and your enjoyment,
> > > I recommend that you take lessons first. Your life is valuable!
> > During the lessons, many of your
> > > questions will be answered, and the money you spend will be well
> > worth it...
> > >
> > >
> > > Have fun!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_monkey@>
> > > To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com <mailto:kitesurf%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:09:56 AM
> > > Subject: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E
L P plz
> > >
> > >
> > > HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish
x4 16m
> > > (off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
> > > flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33
years
> > > ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa
wing for
> > > my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
> > > the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
> > > before.
> > > TO THE QUESTION :
> > > can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
> > > kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
> > > And why you would recommend it.
> > > am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
> > > set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only
confuses the
> > > issue further.
> > > it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
> > > paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
> > > but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before
deciding
> > > to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years
wage on
> > > a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
> > > thanks in advance
> > > stone monkey
> > > chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
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