Hey Dude -

First off - make a control bar for one of your smaller 2-3 meter - four
line stunt kites and play with it a bit. It's not much different but
you'll save wear and tear on your X4. fronts go to your harness and
rears to the bar ends. The biggest diff between that type of trainer and
a X4 is that on the X4 when you pull on the bar you get more power not
less. You can't stall an X4 - so set up your line lengths so you can't
stall the trainer kite to get the right feel

2nd - go look at some 5 line control bars - that's what you need. They
are pretty cheap these days -Your best bet is a Naish 5 line control
bar. Next would be some other brand. I like and use North bars on Naish
kites. Harness - if your waist is smaller than your chest get a waist
harness. If it is bigger get a seat harness.

3rd- don't start on land with the 16, there is no point - you know how
to fly a kite right? Get out in the water so if you get slammed you hit
water- much softer and what you need to learn right off is how to do a
water relaunch, you've never had a kite that could do that.

Steve
Carson City, Nevada, USA

lord_stone_monkey wrote:
>
> thanks for the advice even though i know your probably right i will
> probably ignore it (i do that allot)
> i had some lessons given to me for my "ehemh cough" birthday.lol but
> theay went tits up as a company.
> i am the kind of nut that grabs the bull by the horns much to the
> amusement of my mates.
> when i flew my nassa for the first time as i was dragged and bumped
> over the rocks at llanaber north wales in A 15 mph of shore,
> never used break lines before and didn't see the need for the things.
> (any how the bruise that went down the right hand side of my body from
> face to shin healed in about 5 or 6 weeks no biggy)
> the reason i got my nassa was because the guy in the shop said the
> smaller version killed a guy the week before.
> (dragged him through a wall)
> i was thinking YES REAL POWER as i handed him the cash.
> i can fly and jump it now using my old climbing harness tied to my
> bars lol bit daft i know but,
> acting with out thinking can be entertaining at times.
> using my nassa to power my kayak across the lake at bala when i lost
> wind half way across, i ended up with a wet kite, and dumbo, thought
> there was no need to take the paddle, so ended up swimming towing a
> boat and 10 mtrs of soggy kite.
> try it its kind of fun on a warm day.
> so what can you advise to minimise death? lol
> death makes you antisocial, i had a mate that caught death he never
> comes round or calls any more.
> having someone put me in the right direction would be nice so i dont
> waist cash on stuff i dont need .
> i do fully intend to use it on land before i take to the sea start off
> small in ponds(on short lines) and work my way up.
> and as for the safety of others i dont intend to have a crowd to watch
> the fool for the first time (apart from me mate dave, my old climbing
> partner, who takes great delight watching the stone monkey getting
> banged up on rocks.
> take it easy
> chris
>
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com <mailto:kitesurf%40yahoogroups.com>,
> George <ynotkite@...> wrote:
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > I'm glad to hear you're getting (or getting back ) into flying
> kites. However, much has
> > changed over the years...
> > Kitesurfing can be dangerous. Search on 'kiteforum.com' for
> 'fatalities' and you'll see what
> > I mean.
> > For your safety (and the safety of others) and your enjoyment,
> > I recommend that you take lessons first. Your life is valuable!
> During the lessons, many of your
> > questions will be answered, and the money you spend will be well
> worth it...
> >
> >
> > Have fun!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: lord_stone_monkey <lord_stone_monkey@...>
> > To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com <mailto:kitesurf%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 2:09:56 AM
> > Subject: [ksurf] NAISH X4 16M KITESURING KITE controle setup H E L P plz
> >
> >
> > HI i was wandering if any one could help me i just got a naish x4 16m
> > (off my other half as a prezzie) and although im a old hand at kite
> > flying having one of the first peter powle stunt kites (about 33 years
> > ago lol)and one of the original flexifoil 10 footer and nassa wing for
> > my buggy (slow but powerful) and a few foils in between i understand
> > the dynamics of the wind but NEVER used a bar for controlling a kite
> > before.
> > TO THE QUESTION :
> > can any one recommend a decent control bar and harness for this
> > kite(in the cheap ish bracket)as it has not got one. (kite only).
> > And why you would recommend it.
> > am i better of with 4 or 5 line set up or even if i can use a 5 line
> > set up. i have explored the net for answers but this only confuses the
> > issue further.
> > it all started with me geting a side winder board out of my local
> > paper about 7 years ago for 10£.
> > but i want to give it the best of British try any how, before deciding
> > to go for the mega bucks dogs nuts thing, and spending a years wage on
> > a set up lol. any advice at this stage would be good.
> > thanks in advance
> > stone monkey
> > chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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