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Re: RES: [ksurf] Fully sheet out kites - Windwing new system


--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "hungvuatnetcomdotca"
<hungvu2000@r...> wrote:
> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, georgeiw@a... wrote:
> > The way the middle line goes from being a brake line to the B/A line
> > regulator is similar to the way the lines work in the Cabrinha recon
> system where the
> > front and rear lines are a continuos loop with stoppers to lock it
> into the
> > powered position.
>
> I am not sure who comes up with the "back line/front line as a
> continous loop" idea, Flysurfer or Cabrinha (in their RECON system),
> but I can see that this idea can be used for a 100% fully sheet out
> sled LEI kite (which of course eliminates the safety leash and
> automatically flip the kite over on its back ready for relaunch)
>
> P.S., I do hope that the "back line/front line as a continous loop"
> idea is not patented (I don't think it is as you need some very
> specific application for patenting); otherwise, only one company can
> built 100% fully sheet out sled LEI kite.

Well, last year we discussed about this here and it looks like this
year Windwing is coming out with a very similar system allowing 90% to
100% depowerable LEI (see
http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2309240 )

See how the "back line/front line as a continuous loop" and how "fully
sheet out" the kite is?

As usual, it normally discussed on the kitesurf group first and of
course everything here is "patent free"...

P.S., Note my prediction last year: "I do hope that the "back
line/front line as a continous loop" idea is not patented (I don't
think it is as you need some very specific application for patenting);
otherwise, only one company can built 100% fully sheet out sled LEI
kite" ?

Hung.







Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:26 am

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I had this talk with a number of expert kite designers in the past (kite designers with more than 15 years experiences, not 1 to 5 years experience kite...
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Sep 16, 2003
12:38 am

=== good point Hung Vu. When I was in Cabo Verde (Cape Verde) I tried the ADVANCE kite which was similar to the SEASMIK which was similar to some other French...
Stefano Rosso
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Sep 16, 2003
12:37 pm

Stefano, Didn't Seasmik made some good size kite (11.5 m2 or so probably the same range as a 15 LEI)? With some simple integrated bridle system, we may be able...
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Sep 16, 2003
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Stefano, Didn't Seasmik made some good size kite (11.5 m2 or so probably the same range as a 15 LEI)? With some simple integrated bridle system, we may be able...
Stefano Rosso
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Sep 17, 2003
12:34 am

Seasmik did make a LEI that fully sheeted out. I have one. But it was not a sled it was basically a LEI single skin foil. It used a bridle to flatten the...
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Sep 16, 2003
7:32 pm

... achieve 100% depower unless the front lines can move from the wing tips to a point closer to the center. I experimented with this once with some ... This...
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Sep 16, 2003
10:56 pm

Hey Steve, did your experiments look anything like this? http://www.usakite.com/lift2.htm ... was ... ideas ... with it. ... it ... depower ... make ... hook...
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Sep 21, 2003
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Have you guys tried a flysurfer psycho? I have a 15.5 and it is a very powerful kite. If you have a chance to look at a bridle while flying you will be very ...
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Sep 17, 2003
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... system where the ... into the ... I am not sure who comes up with the "back line/front line as a continous loop" idea, Flysurfer or Cabrinha (in their...
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... Well, last year we discussed about this here and it looks like this year Windwing is coming out with a very similar system allowing 90% to 100% depowerable...
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Hello, My new email is windjosue@... ... _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. ...
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Hi everybody, I am complete profane in this and I need proffesional help. Who can explain me the difference between chicken loop and trip loop. Tnx E ... Do...
Emilia Naoumova
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Sep 17, 2003
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Trim loop and Chicken loop are the same... but usually chicken loop ain't a fixed loop Chicken loop, or trim loop, is used to control the power of the kite...
Dreadlord 2
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Sep 17, 2003
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Many tank's Greg! Peace E Dreadlord 2 <dreadlord2@...> wrote: Trim loop and Chicken loop are the same... but usually chicken loop ain't a fixed loop ...
Emilia Naoumova
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Sep 17, 2003
10:28 am

What I did to Seasmikize my Wipi 8.5 Classic was to sew some attach points near center of leading edge, then run lines from standard front attach points to...
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Sep 17, 2003
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Steve, If you add the "front lines and back lines as a continuous loop" idea (from Flysurfer Psycho or RECON - I don't know who copy who) to your design then...
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Sep 17, 2003
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Yes and No The front lines were on sliders like this but the sliders were much longer. About 3 feet. They ran from the front attach point to the leading edge...
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