Yes and No

The front lines were on sliders like this but the sliders were much longer.
About 3 feet. They ran from the front attach point to the leading edge near the
2nd struts. If the center strut is no 1 then the struts on either
side of center are number 2. So in Sheet out position it was almost like
holding the leading edge. Near full depower.

This idea looks pretty cool though. If they are right - that it lessends drag
during turning and sheeting in - then it might be worth doing. I'll have to try
it on an old kite.


Steve
Carson City, Nevada, USA



9/21/2003 7:50:50 PM, "hink_trent" <hink_trent@...> wrote:

>Hey Steve, did your experiments look anything like this?
>http://www.usakite.com/lift2.htm
>
>--- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, "hungvuatnetcomdotca"
><hungvu2000@r...> wrote:
>> --- In kitesurf@yahoogroups.com, CC - Steve <kite_head@n...> wrote:
>> > allowed it to fully depower. A 2 line or 4 line sled shape cannot
>> achieve 100% depower unless the front lines can move from the wing
>> tips to a point closer to the center. I experimented with this once
>> with some
>> > limited success a few years ago. I think it may have potential.
>>
>> This can probably be achieved fairly easily with some "integrated"
>> bridle system and some connection points closer to the center. If I
>> have time, I may do some experiments with my Wipika Classic 3.5 (it
>> already has some connection points closer to the center).
>>
>> > The biggest problem with the Seasmik design - from my experience
>was
>> that there was too little bar movement to go from no power to full
>> power and too much bar pressure when at full power. I had some
>ideas
>> for correcting this but did not want to spend the money to fool
>with it.
>>
>> "Too little bar movement to go from no power to full power" is
>> probably common for all foil shape. But if we are being able to do
>it
>> for a sled LEI then it would be the same as now (sheet out to
>depower
>> the kite up to a point - arms fully extended and trim strap fully
>> pulled) and then we'll be able to to simply drop the bar to 100%
>> depower when in trouble (also flip the kite over on the water and
>make
>> it ready to relaunch).
>>
>> "Too much bar pressure when at full power", why can't you simply
>hook in?
>>
>> > I do like the kite on lwheels and snow though. It is great to be
>> able to depower totally and on the fly. You are right that a leash
>is
>> unecesarry with this kite Hung. You can sheet out and fully depower
>> on front lines
>> > only and/or you can stall it and back it to the ground, It is
>> absolutely the most fully controllable kite I have ever flown. the
>> only other that comes close is the Revolution.
>>
>> Sounds like trying to eliminate the leash (very cumbersome to some
>> competitors) this way is MUCH BETTER and SAFER than making it
>a "part
>> time" safety leash.
>>
>> Hung.
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