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I read the article.<br><br>This article is so
full of errors it is hard to know where to start.
Heck, they can't even read the Bible
correctly!<br><br>They said that Deuteronomy 18:11 forbids us to empty
our minds. The text reads: "Or a charmer, or a
consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a
necromancer."<br><br>Now, we know that when we empty our minds we are
inviting in evil spirits. Christian martial artists don't
practice meditations that empty our minds. But the verse
has nothing to do with emptying the mind!<br><br>I
dispute that the practice of martial arts is of necessity
a religious exercise. I have known many, many very
fine Christian martial artists, and they do things
strictly in a physical fashion. The article talks about
using spiritual forces to break many boards with the
bare hands. The first bit of ignorance shows up here.
If you utilize the ordinary laws of physics, you can
break a surprising number of boards with bare hands and
feet without ever calling on a demon. I myself can
break a board with many different techniques. Because I
am older, I don't have the speed necessary to break
more than one board. My technique is strictly
physical. The Christian Black Belt Association talks about
different kinds of chi (ki). There is spiritual chi which
involves partnership with demons. There is mental chi,
which is simply concentration and mental training
resulting in the muscles behaving properly under the
control of the mind. Then there is physical chi, which
simply involves proper use of the muscles and breathing.
Only spiritual chi is forbidden to the Christian. I
have watched a demonstration which probably involved
the use of spiritual chi. Because of what the man
proposed to do (break over 12 bricks, the narrow kind with
scalloped edges you use to outline gardens, might have been
as much as 20) I decided to pray to prevent him from
using spiritual chi. He pushed the bricks over with his
hand, and a few of them broke on the ground. He looked
very, very puzzled, and tried again. Same result.
Eventually, he broke them all, but he was clearly
embarrassed. I have never seen spiritual chi used successfully
in my presence. That was the only demonstration I
ever saw.<br>Another fallacy in the article is the
idea that Christians learn martial arts in order to
defend themselves, and this is wrong. First of all, I
learned taekwondo so that I could defend OTHERS. I also
learned it so I could avoid trouble. I have never used it
against a violent person. In the second place, I do not
think there is no occasion where a Christian can defend
himself. Jesus told his followers to sell their cloaks and
buy a sword. Clearly, there is a time and a place for
the use of force. The time and place should be
carefully considered and discussed beforehand.<br><br>The
article also talks about worshipping the instructor. This
is clearly wrong, and I have never been asked to do
this. If I were asked, I would refuse. I would do
nothing that RESEMBLES worshipping the instructor. But I
see no harm in ordinary honor of a fellow human
being, especially one who has worked hard to
achieve.<br>Cont.




Wed Sep 22, 1999 11:25 am

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One more thing: The writer of this essay states that we are to sacrifice ourselves for God. Now, I have no problem with this when it comes to standing up for...
pk_warrior
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Sep 21, 1999
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I read the article.<br><br>This article is so full of errors it is hard to know where to start. Heck, they can't even read the Bible correctly!<br><br>They...
pat_goltz3
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Sep 22, 1999
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The article next mentions Yoga. Yoga is NOT a martial art. The Christian should never practice Yoga.<br><br>In martial arts, we often learn of the religious ...
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Sep 22, 1999
11:31 am

One of my sons actually used his martial arts training to help win a boy to Christ.<br><br>Here's what happened. There was a boy who had gotten in trouble with...
pat_goltz3
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Sep 22, 1999
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One of my sons actually used his martial arts training to help win a boy to Christ.<br><br>Here's what happened. There was a boy who had gotten in trouble with...
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Sep 22, 1999
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Well,<br> <br> I've finally found a place where the two things I love most come together in one place. I have high hopes for this club. First let me say a few...
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Sep 30, 1999
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Welcome, tkimm! Not that I should have that honor of welcoming new people - the founders probably should. But I'm excited to hear about how God is working in...
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Sep 30, 1999
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Hi there.....just the club I was looking for as I don't know any other christians who presently practice martial arts. I am a member of the KDS ...
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Oct 2, 1999
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I just joined your club. I am a BB in KajuKenfu Budo Kai Khan. (Part of the tree of Kaju kenbo and Kaju Kenpo). I have recently been asked to teach at the...
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Oct 21, 1999
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Hi eveyone, I'm glad I found a club that is about the martial arts AND is Christ-centered. Here is more about me:<br><br>Name: Ken Sanderson<br>Address: ...
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I just created a photo album. It's called "Members In Action" It's open to any of you who want to post a picture of you, or your friends, or students working...
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A worthless pondering that occurred to me: Notice it is called "Thanksgiving", not "Thankstaking".<br><br>riversidema...
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Nov 27, 1999
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A worthless pondering that occurred to me: Notice it is called "Thanksgiving", not "Thankstaking".<br><br>riversidema...
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Nov 27, 1999
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Just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a happy and safe new year. In the year to come may God use you and your gifts to spread His message and...
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Dec 21, 1999
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Just wanted to say hi and how glad i am to have found this club! Look forward to having contact with you all! Take Care and Happy New Year!...
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He made the martial arts. In fact, he made EVERYTHING. And if you want to argue what he made it or not, don't bother. If you think that humans made the arts, ...
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I thought buddhism created the martial arts for protection.I never knew god had some thing to do with it.ohh well i don't care who created the martial arts i...
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I'm buddhist but i believe in evolotion and science has GOD. and that GOD is not a being but<br>a person made up by humans who could not understand why things...
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Not one person here hates you. If they do, they are not in the right club. <br>Try to remind yourself though that evolution has never been proven. There are ...
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Even science admits that energy cannot be destroyed, just re-formed. Likewise it cannot be created. So, where did the energy come from?<br>If we don't need...
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This is fun to disagree cause there some to write about. In fact sciecist have found dinosaures that are of the same breed of creature but they look different...
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Jan 19, 2000
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Well, it's been awhile since I've been here. I've missed a lot, as I can see...<br><br>Hey Riverside -- You kill me, man ("HWRANG in there")...<br><br>As for ...
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Jan 20, 2000
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That's interesting!!!! nice work dude....
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Jan 21, 2000
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What's up everybody. I'm new here. I was a good christian martial artists, but I lost my way spiritually. I hope ya'll can help me find my way back to...
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What's up everybody. I'm new here. I was a good christian martial artists, but I lost my way spiritually. I hope ya'll can help me find my way back to...
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Feb 3, 2000
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I am just dropping by to let you know that I finally have a section on the martial arts on my web site.<br><br>It isn't much yet, but to see what I have so...
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Feb 15, 2000
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Hi boomshanka,<br><br>I'd be interested in hearing your story - how you came to know Christ, how you think you drifted away from the faith, and where you are...
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Feb 18, 2000
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Greetings! So glad to discover your club tonight. I am a member of Grace Martial Arts Fellowship, Confident Kids Martial Arts Evangelism, Karate for Christ and...
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Hi all!<br><br>I am new here and need some help to ask questions and all. Gotta run now...but thanks for this club! Bye!...
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