Louie,

I had really planned to go to Luneta Easter Sunday but things came up, didn't
get to see you guys. I've made sure about this Sunday though and I hope I
remember to bring Tony's old passport as that may be needed to get him a new
one.

See you guys,
Romy

----- Start Original Message -----
Sent: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:25:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Luis Pellicer <custom1911@...>
To: kalis-ilustrisimo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [kalis-ilustrisimo] (unknown)

>
> Hi Rom,

Will be in Luneta this Sunday. If you want, I can see how I can help with
the passport, getting Tony out etc. Would also like a chance to talk with
you, I've been tampo and out of training too long. :-)



romeo_macapagal@... wrote:

   Louie,

   I read my mail infrequently and get time to answer even less. Anyway,
   thanks for the offer.

   Off hand, the main activity, I think, you can help out with is to
   convince Tony to at least get his passport done. I have his old
   passport but can't get him to get his NSO and present himself at the
   DFA.

   Both Serge in France and Roy Harris in San Diego have been after Tony
   to go and visit with them. Especially with Roy, there's a major way
   that he can promote Ilustrisimo through Tony and actually expected
   Tony to be able to make it last February for seminars in San Diego
   and Connecticut.

   I did this but I am not the material that the audience want. I have
   the know how and skill but cannot present in the way that Tony does.
   He is a teacher. I am not. I am hoping that you will be able to
   perusade him and get him out of his shyness to present Ilustrisimo to
   the world instead of the various proponents who have been trying to
   do so.

   I am sorry that my Sundays have been occupied by attending to clients
   who only have the weekends for therapy. I'll try to make it to Luneta
   more often.

   Regards to Mitch and the kids,
   Romy

   ----- Start Original Message -----
   Sent: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:23:55 -0000
   From: "Luis Pellicer" <custom1911@...>
   To: kalis-ilustrisimo@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [kalis-ilustrisimo] (unknown)

   >
   > Hi John,
   Great to be in touch again! It feels good to be back.

   ----- End Original Message -----


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Louie,

I read my mail infrequently and get time to answer even less. Anyway, thanks for the offer.

Off hand, the main activity, I think, you can help out with is to convince Tony to at least get his passport done. I have his old passport but can't get him to get his NSO and present himself at the DFA.

Both Serge in France and Roy Harris in San Diego have been after Tony to go and visit with them. Especially with Roy, there's a major way that he can promote Ilustrisimo through Tony and actually expected Tony to be able to make it last February for seminars in San Diego and Connecticut.

I did this but I am not the material that the audience want. I have the know how and skill but cannot present in the way that Tony does. He is a teacher. I am not. I am hoping that you will be able to perusade him and get him out of his shyness to present Ilustrisimo to the world instead of the various proponents who have been trying to do so.

I am sorry that my Sundays have been occupied by attending to clients who only have the weekends for therapy. I'll try to make it to Luneta more often.

Regards to Mitch and the kids,
Romy

----- Start Original Message -----
Sent: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:23:55 -0000
From: "Luis Pellicer" <custom1911@yahoo.com>
To: kalis-ilustrisimo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [kalis-ilustrisimo] (unknown)

>
> Hi John,
Great to be in touch again! It feels good to be back.

----- End Original Message -----

Louie,

I read my mail infrequently and get time to answer even less. Anyway, thanks for
the offer.

Off hand, the main activity, I think, you can help out with is to convince Tony
to at least get his passport done. I have his old passport but can't get him to
get his NSO and present himself at the DFA.

Both Serge in France and Roy Harris in San Diego have been after Tony to go and
visit with them. Especially with Roy, there's a major way that he can promote
Ilustrisimo through Tony and actually expected Tony to be able to make it last
February for seminars in San Diego and Connecticut.

I did this but I am not the material that the audience want. I have the know how
and skill but cannot present in the way that Tony does. He is a teacher. I am
not. I am hoping that you will be able to perusade him and get him out of his
shyness to present Ilustrisimo to the world instead of the various proponents
who have been trying to do so.

I am sorry that my Sundays have been occupied by attending to clients who only
have the weekends for therapy. I'll try to make it to Luneta more often.

Regards to Mitch and the kids,
Romy

----- Start Original Message -----
Sent: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:23:55 -0000
From: "Luis Pellicer" <custom1911@...>
To: kalis-ilustrisimo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [kalis-ilustrisimo] (unknown)

>
> Hi John,
Great to be in touch again! It feels good to be back.




----- End Original Message -----

Hi John,
Great to be in touch again! It feels good to be back.

Hello all,

I pray that everyone is well and in good health.

Shamim Haque will be in the US in september, the 2nd and 3rd, and
will be holding his first seminar.

Kind Regards,

Abul Kalam.

Details are below...

Kalis Ilustrisimo Seminar
SEPT 2nd & 3rd 2006
Time : 10 am - 3pm

VENUE :
Multiplex Center
1005 Fifth Street
Wichita Falls
TX 76302
USA

Cost :
$75 for One Day.
$80 at the door.
$150 for Two Days.
$175 at the door for Two Days.

Concessions
Instructors bring 3 students and you train free.
The first 10 student will pay $50.00 per 1 day and $100.00 for two
days.

The seminar will be in the US, in Texas.

This is Guru Shamim's First Seminar in the US.

For More information please call Guru James Thornton (940)642-4112
or email gurujames322000@....

Hello friends,
Just to let you people know that we are in the process of arranging
for either of Tony Diego or Romy Macapagal to visit Australia late
August/September 2006. Duration is about 1 month. There will be a
series of workshops.

Warmest regards,
John chow

Gentlemen,

I appreciate all of your sentiments to get Tony travelling and teaching. It will
be mutualy beneficial to all.

Right now, we are working on Tony's passport requirements which involve proving
that he is a Pillipine citizen. This may appear simple but as mentioned
previously, Tony's birth and baptismal records are unretrievable. He was born
about the end of WWII in a war ravaged Manila that was flattened by carpet
bombing and large conflarations.

While Tony has an old passport, it was acquired at a time when rules were not so
strict as now(brought about by terrorism, illegal immigration, etc.) imposed by
first world countries.

A liaison man and a lawyer have been engaged for this document reconstruction,
after which, passporting is a simple three day job. Then there will be the
matter of visas for the countries to be visited, all of which are uptight
concerning possible illegal immigration.

To this end, any host must be prepared to guarantee the return of Antonio R.
Diego to the Phillipines on the expiry of visa of the host country. This must
contain an undertaking that the host will supervise movement and travel and stay
24 hours with Tony. A commitment to provide board, lodging, and other needs is
comforting to the host country also.

romeo

Hi Serge,

greta to hear from you. 
Your view on not opening to variants of Kalis Ilustrisimo is noted.

This is a Kalis Ilustrisimo discussion group where we chat and discuss things intrernal to Kalis Ilustrisimo. I agree.


Warmest regards,
John Chow


Serge Gilette <sgilette@...> wrote:

Hello everyone.

I have already planned for a few months to invite Tony next summer to France
the small group i have settle there really want him to join us for a while. We are preparing a special trip with him. I have involved in the process a friend of mine who is the head and heir of a famous chinese schoool. He is well aware of the seminars process and business and will help organise things in France. I plan to discuss that matters with Tony in a few weeks.

As far as i am concern opening this mailing list to variant of the Ilustrismo style is not a good option. I notice that in the past many tensions arose around our style as it became fashionable. I despise these attitudes and i fear that for many people, Martial art is just a business like another. I have often encounter people like that and i became more cautious about people year after year.

On the matter of helping Tony. I will continue to do what i always did : send him money on a regular basis, or bring him money whenever i see him. I have to arrange things in order to have this done on a regular basis. For the past years i've been able to send roughly 100 euros a month. Some years less, some years more... I plan to increase that amount to roughly 200 by next october. If people around here contribute just 20 dollars a month we can garanty Tony a decent living. I am teaching for free and i will continue that way, so this money comes directly from my work. My students are poor but they will contribute at their level to help Tony.

ingat ka

Serge

John Chow <vajra_master@...> wrote:

Hi Kalam, and everybody,

Welcome Kalam, to this forum which is dedicated to Kalis Ilustrisimo.

Josh also expressed interest. I think we have about sufficient
interest in different countries to do this, so let us start the process.

I am thinking of this September for Melbourne. I need to go to
China/Taiwan/Malaysia in October, so early September for Tony Diego
is a better date for me.

Shamim can host the UK side. Serge can host the France side. I heard
we have somebody in Germany? True? Please extend him the invitation
to join us. Josh takes care of Canada. Roy Harris takes care of USA.

If required, I will take Tony to Malaysia! :):):) Tony asked me to
set up and train a Malaysian team to take part in the Aean GAmes.
Well, I have conducted 2 workshops for Tai Chi people in Malaysia, and
if Tony comes, we will try to set up a team which he can come over
once in a few months to supervise on my behalf as Manila is not too
far away. Romy can also help if he is not busy.

Mang Romy, can you please press on with effort to get Tony his
passport please? Thanks in advance. :):):)

My club is very small. But if Tony comes, I will invite other
martial arts schools (Karate, Kungfu, Tai Chi, etc) to join in the
seminars. I am starting to get active in the martial art federation
now. I have just been invited to be a committee member of the
Australian Kungfu & Wushu Federation. I think we will not make a loss
and can give Tony some money to take home. :):):)

If you know of any Kalis Ilustrisimo practitioner (must be Kalis
Ilustrisimo, not a variant of Kalis Ilustrisimo - because this forum
is dedicated to Kalis ilustrisimo) please invite him to join our
forum. Only when the membership of this forum is firmly and strongly
CORE Kalis Ilustrisimo, then I will open it to Kalis Ilustrisimo
variants.

Warmest regards,
John Chow

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Hello everyone.

I have already planned for a few months to invite Tony next summer to France
the small group i have settle there really want him to join us for a while. We are preparing a special trip with him. I have involved in the process a friend of mine who is the head and heir of a famous chinese schoool. He is well aware of the seminars process and business and will help organise things in France. I plan to discuss that matters with Tony in a few weeks.

As far as i am concern opening this mailing list to variant of the Ilustrismo style is not a good option. I notice that in the past many tensions arose around our style as it became fashionable. I despise these attitudes and i fear that for many people, Martial art is just a business like another. I have often encounter people like that and i became more cautious about people year after year.

On the matter of helping Tony. I will continue to do what i always did : send him money on a regular basis, or bring him money whenever i see him. I have to arrange things in order to have this done on a regular basis. For the past years i've been able to send roughly 100 euros a month. Some years less, some years more... I plan to increase that amount to roughly 200 by next october. If people around here contribute just 20 dollars a month we can garanty Tony a decent living. I am teaching for free and i will continue that way, so this money comes directly from my work. My students are poor but they will contribute at their level to help Tony.

ingat ka

Serge

John Chow <vajra_master@...> wrote:

Hi Kalam, and everybody,

Welcome Kalam, to this forum which is dedicated to Kalis Ilustrisimo.

Josh also expressed interest. I think we have about sufficient
interest in different countries to do this, so let us start the process.

I am thinking of this September for Melbourne. I need to go to
China/Taiwan/Malaysia in October, so early September for Tony Diego
is a better date for me.

Shamim can host the UK side. Serge can host the France side. I heard
we have somebody in Germany? True? Please extend him the invitation
to join us. Josh takes care of Canada. Roy Harris takes care of USA.

If required, I will take Tony to Malaysia! :):):) Tony asked me to
set up and train a Malaysian team to take part in the Aean GAmes.
Well, I have conducted 2 workshops for Tai Chi people in Malaysia, and
if Tony comes, we will try to set up a team which he can come over
once in a few months to supervise on my behalf as Manila is not too
far away. Romy can also help if he is not busy.

Mang Romy, can you please press on with effort to get Tony his
passport please? Thanks in advance. :):):)

My club is very small. But if Tony comes, I will invite other
martial arts schools (Karate, Kungfu, Tai Chi, etc) to join in the
seminars. I am starting to get active in the martial art federation
now. I have just been invited to be a committee member of the
Australian Kungfu & Wushu Federation. I think we will not make a loss
and can give Tony some money to take home. :):):)

If you know of any Kalis Ilustrisimo practitioner (must be Kalis
Ilustrisimo, not a variant of Kalis Ilustrisimo - because this forum
is dedicated to Kalis ilustrisimo) please invite him to join our
forum. Only when the membership of this forum is firmly and strongly
CORE Kalis Ilustrisimo, then I will open it to Kalis Ilustrisimo
variants.

Warmest regards,
John Chow

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Hi Kalam, and everybody,

Welcome Kalam, to this forum which is dedicated to Kalis Ilustrisimo.

Josh also expressed interest. I think we have about sufficient
interest in different countries to do this, so let us start the process.

I am thinking of this September for Melbourne. I need to go to
China/Taiwan/Malaysia in October, so early September for Tony Diego
is a better date for me.

Shamim can host the UK side. Serge can host the France side. I heard
we have somebody in Germany? True? Please extend him the invitation
to join us. Josh takes care of Canada. Roy Harris takes care of USA.

If required, I will take Tony to Malaysia! :):):) Tony asked me to
set up and train a Malaysian team to take part in the Aean GAmes.
Well, I have conducted 2 workshops for Tai Chi people in Malaysia, and
if Tony comes, we will try to set up a team which he can come over
once in a few months to supervise on my behalf as Manila is not too
far away. Romy can also help if he is not busy.

Mang Romy, can you please press on with effort to get Tony his
passport please? Thanks in advance. :):):)

My club is very small. But if Tony comes, I will invite other
martial arts schools (Karate, Kungfu, Tai Chi, etc) to join in the
seminars. I am starting to get active in the martial art federation
now. I have just been invited to be a committee member of the
Australian Kungfu & Wushu Federation. I think we will not make a loss
and can give Tony some money to take home. :):):)

If you know of any Kalis Ilustrisimo practitioner (must be Kalis
Ilustrisimo, not a variant of Kalis Ilustrisimo - because this forum
is dedicated to Kalis ilustrisimo) please invite him to join our
forum. Only when the membership of this forum is firmly and strongly
CORE Kalis Ilustrisimo, then I will open it to Kalis Ilustrisimo
variants.

Warmest regards,
John Chow

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Hi Kalam, and everybody,

Welcome Kalam, to this forum which is dedicated to Kalis Ilustrisimo.

Josh also expressed interest.  I think we have about sufficient
interest in different countries to do this, so let us start the process.

I am thinking of this September for Melbourne. I need to go to
China/Taiwan/Malaysia in October,  so early September for Tony Diego
is a better date for me.

Shamim can host the UK side. Serge can host the France side. I heard
we have somebody in Germany?  True?  Please extend him the invitation
to join us. Josh takes care of Canada. Roy Harris takes care of USA.

If required, I will take Tony to Malaysia!  :):):)  Tony asked me to
set up and train a Malaysian team to take part in the Aean GAmes.
Well, I have conducted 2 workshops for Tai Chi people in Malaysia, and
if Tony comes,  we will try to set up a team which he can come over
once in a few months to supervise on my behalf as Manila is not too
far away. Romy can also help if he is not busy.

Mang Romy,  can you please press on with effort to get Tony his
passport please?  Thanks in advance. :):):)

My club is very small.  But if Tony comes,  I will invite other
martial arts schools (Karate, Kungfu, Tai Chi, etc) to join in the
seminars. I am starting to get active in the martial art federation
now.  I have just been invited to be a committee member of the
Australian Kungfu & Wushu Federation. I think we will not make a loss
and can give Tony some money to take home. :):):)

If you know of any Kalis Ilustrisimo practitioner (must be Kalis
Ilustrisimo, not a variant of Kalis Ilustrisimo - because this forum
is dedicated to Kalis ilustrisimo) please invite him to join our
forum. Only when the membership of this forum is firmly and strongly
CORE Kalis Ilustrisimo, then I will open it to Kalis Ilustrisimo
variants.

Warmest regards,
John Chow

Hello,

Just wanted to say hello to everyone.
Mang Tony, Mang Romy and Josh should remember me, I came down with
Shamim in 2004.  I am one of his students, my name is Abul Kalam.

It would be good to see Mang Tony / Mang Romy stopover in London for
seminars/classes (if the round the world trip goes ahead).

I hope that all of you are well and in good health.

My warmest regards to you all...

Abul Kalam.

Dear John,

 

 I stay in contact with mang tony frequently. i suggested to him in our last conversation that he should come here to canada to stay with me and train. Also perhaps do some workshops in interested gyms in my province. He told me that Romy was working on a passport for him and that if it came to fruition he would come over to canada. i will be writing a letter of invation to the canadian embassy this summer in hopes that Mang tony could come over this fall of 2006. maybe this counld work into your' world ticklet' thing? any other ideas?

  interesting dream stuff. hungery ghosts eh??? do you think that tatang would be extisting in this existance right now...????? from what i have heard of him from mang tony he seems to be a man of unwaivering voltion. i'm curious of your understanding of these places.

best wishes always,

josh
John Chow <vajra_master@...> wrote:

Dear all,

Tony Diego is coming 60 and retiring sometime in June, next month.

I do not know what his plans are for the future. Years ago, hee
indicated he would love to go to the provinces and spend a quiet time
there. I will try to ascertain a clearer picture if I drop by in July.

I am thinking it is about time to invite him to give workshops in
western countries. We have Kalis Ilustrisimo branches in a few
countries, so if he has a round-the-world ticket, he may perhaps make
a world trip. It gives him something to do, and it would be pleasing
to him to see more people practising Kalis Ilustrisimo. It provides
some income for him too.

The question is  -  how would you, as instructors in Western
countries,  like to sponsor workshops for Tony Diego? 

2nd question -  Tony Diego does not have a current pasport.  Can
somebody assist him in getting one please?  Romy? Tommy?

3rd question is When?  I suppose Tony wants to spend a few months
taking it easy and 'setting up' his new life.  So that will be end of
the year at the earliest.

Warmest regards,
John Chow
Kalis Ilustrisimo Orihinal Repeticion, Melbourne

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Dear all,

Tony Diego is coming 60 and retiring sometime in June, next month.

I do not know what his plans are for the future. Years ago, hee
indicated he would love to go to the provinces and spend a quiet time
there. I will try to ascertain a clearer picture if I drop by in July.

I am thinking it is about time to invite him to give workshops in
western countries. We have Kalis Ilustrisimo branches in a few
countries, so if he has a round-the-world ticket, he may perhaps make
a world trip. It gives him something to do, and it would be pleasing
to him to see more people practising Kalis Ilustrisimo. It provides
some income for him too.

The question is  -  how would you, as instructors in Western
countries,  like to sponsor workshops for Tony Diego? 

2nd question -  Tony Diego does not have a current pasport.  Can
somebody assist him in getting one please?  Romy? Tommy?

3rd question is When?  I suppose Tony wants to spend a few months
taking it easy and 'setting up' his new life.  So that will be end of
the year at the earliest.

Warmest regards,
John Chow
Kalis Ilustrisimo Orihinal Repeticion, Melbourne

John,

The lottery part of the dream is a sure indication it is Tatang. He liked to
gamble a bit, especially on cockfights. The mourning or burial rites may be a
message to treat his Legacy with more respect and with reference to him. Many of
us have been self-centered lately and have corrupted the very Art that we are
trying to preserve whole.

Perhaps this is a call for a re-examination of what we are doing. We could be
getting lost. EGOs, the small selves. may be using KI to promote themselves
instead of DEVELOPING themselves thru KI.

Why you? Well, because you are writing a book about KI and are serious and
sincere about the task. You want solid facts and accurate presentation. That may
be more important than listing his name in a ritual you have lost interest in.

romeo

Dear all,

I used to dream of Tatang in the 1980s when I first heard of him. But
I had not dreamt of him since he passed away.

I had a dream about Tatang this Monday (29 May 2006) night.

He came to me and asked me to help him buy lottery!  And then later,
he came again and handed me a piece of paper with Chinese writing
which he asked me to interpret for him. I asked my mother and she
explained it was a burial rite or for mourning. That's the dream.

I had been putting Tatang's name in our Buddhist 'Liberation'
ceremonies for the 'Hungry Ghost" month in the Chinese temples for a
number of years, and I did not do it for the past 2 years beacuse I
felt that the temple was 'going nowhere' so I withdrew my financial
support. Maybe Tatang wants me to put his name in again.

Dear all,

Tony Diego is coming 60 and retiring sometime in June, next month.

I do not know what his plans are for the future. Years ago, hee
indicated he would love to go to the provinces and spend a quiet time
there. I will try to ascertain a clearer picture if I drop by in July.

I am thinking it is about time to invite him to give workshops in
western countries. We have Kalis Ilustrisimo branches in a few
countries, so if he has a round-the-world ticket, he may perhaps make
a world trip. It gives him something to do, and it would be pleasing
to him to see more people practising Kalis Ilustrisimo. It provides
some income for him too.

The question is  -  how would you, as instructors in Western
countries,  like to sponsor workshops for Tony Diego?

2nd question -  Tony Diego does not have a current pasport.  Can
somebody assist him in getting one please?  Romy? Tommy?

3rd question is When?  I suppose Tony wants to spend a few months
taking it easy and 'setting up' his new life.  So that will be end of
the year at the earliest.

Warmest regards,
John Chow
Kalis Ilustrisimo Orihinal Repeticion, Melbourne

Dear friends,

If you Kalis Ilustrisimo instructors under Tony Diego & Romy
Macapagal) have a website,  please submit to me so that I can put into
our links here.

At the moment,  this group is only for students of Tony Diego and Romy
Macapagal,  because we want to keep it Kalis Ilustrisimo and not
variants of the art.  Tony Diego has indicated to me who the Kalis
Ilustrisimo practitioners are worldwide in November 2005, and there
are not too many (about 20 only).  He and Romy have open doors to
other students of Tatang who wish to update their art and thus be
Kalis Ilustrisimo.

If you know of any other Kalis Ilustrisimo instructors around the
world who fit into Tony Diego's idea of Kalis Ilustrisimo, please send
me their website URL.

I am thinking of dropping by Manila in early July maybe the first 2
weeks of July to see Tony Diego & Romy Macapagal.

Warmest regards,
John Chow
Kalis Ilustrisimo Orihinal Repeticion, Melbourne

Hello,

A warm welcome to all enquirers.

This yahoogroup is meant for discussion and propagation of Kalis
Ilustrisimo.

I have created this forum with the intention that Kalis Ilustrisimo
practitioners all over the world have an easy forum to communicate and
discuss Kalis Ilustrisimo.

This website also serves as means of raising the profile of Kalis
Ilustrisimo and reaching out to the general public.

If you are teaching a class or workshop on Kalis Ilustrisimo, please
feel free to advertise the event here.

I urge Kalis Ilustrisimo instructors to join us and contribute to this
forum.

I request Kalis Ilustrisimo instructors with websites to exchange
reciprocal URL links with this forum as well as each other's websites.

I have provided a link to my own website on this forum.  Please come
join me.

As to what is Kalis Ilustrisimo:-  The escrima of Antonio 'Tatang'
Ilustrisimo (1900 - 1997) taught in its entirety and without
substantial modifications.  Most of the practitioners would be
students of Tony Diego and Romy Macapagal.


Warmest regards,
John Chow