From where i stand, i can't see why they've been changed at all to be perfectly honest. A team that drops a pull (either indoor, or outdoor), deserves to have the opposition attack them from point blank range for making that mistake. If you tried to pick up and carry on outdoor, you'd be laughed off the field. Why make it different for indoors? As Kev and Dale have said, it makes things confusing for beginners. Take it from someone who teaches beginners multiple times per week, it's disheartening when they get confused with the rule differences between the two games.
Don't forget that it's supposed to be the same game, scaled down, played indoors. Having rules like this implemented now, i don't feel are the way forward. As mentioned already, the new rules (regardless of spirit), do encourage teams to launch the disc quickly at the weakest players on the opposing side. This therefore means that they're likely to get out of the way, causing a back-endzone start. What has that tuaght the opposition? Dangerous throws and unspirited play will win vital yards. We shouldn't be encouraging either of those factors into our game.
The way i look at it, if a team drops on their endzone line, it's a turnover, regardless of if it's a pull, or mid-play. i really can't see a difference. If the new rules are implemented across the board, we may as well not pull at all, and let the O team start with the disc, because the D team really has no point to accomplish by pulling to them.
I agree with wanting to keep discs in better shape. I agree with wanting to encourage beginners to touch the disc. But there are better ways than changing the rules to get that result. Having a height rule is logical, yes, but height varies person to person. It's just as unfair to pull the disc 1foot from the ground to someone who's 6'7", because they've still got to catch at an awkward angle. Just as someone who's 4' whatever has to jump and catch a few feet above his head. There are lots of juniors 6' + , so why change the already changed rules, to allow for less height?
If a team is small, they know it's a disadvantage in one way, and an advantage in others. I have a tall team prettymuch. We average about 6ft. So catching with the new rule isn't a problem. if it's changed, catching at knee level will be more difficult. So either way, you can't win.
I see the point of trying to encourage faster play, and not breaking discs on the backwall, but i fail to see the point in playing a nice disc, if, when it's dropped, the O gets no reward from it.
People know the old rules. People thought them fair. My opinion is that we stick with them for Nationals, simply because very few of us know the new rules, and therefore, if a dispute arises (and it will), there will be very few people who could solve it. Why bother? Keep the old rules ![]()
That's just my outlook, i'd appreciate more feedback.
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Scott, Catch Those
(Junior Indoor Nationals Organiser)
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