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SK - Some thoughts...

Wed Dec 27 17:04:05 2000<br><br><br>In looking at
the effort to come up with the best of the NE it
seemed sad that the history of the Javelin was so
lacking as to require memory to establish what was.
<br><br>It was also obvious that the older throwers were
able to reconstruct a bit of the history. Since I am
for sure I'm the oldest, at least in the NE area, I
thought I might interject as to the beginning.<br><br>The
World record in 1950 was set by Matti Jarvinan at
253'41/2" on 6/18/36 mainly because throwers around the
world were only just coming away from the terrors of
World War II (August 15 1945). They first started to
reach 240' by the late 40's. <br><br>Bill Miller who
threw for Arizona State at Tempe between 48-50 (I was
in his conference) reached this level in college as
did Cy Young, Steve Seymour, Phil Conley and Bud
Held.<br><br>Although Bill was from NJ he spend most of his throwing
career on the west coast. I know since I entered every
major meet in the NE and only in 1955 at the Eastern
championship did we meet again. The previous time being in '50
where I took second (182") to his 220'+. To show the
level of throwing during this time I broke a 14 year
old Met AAU record in 1954 with 214'9.5". Up until
1955 there were no throwers in the NE over 240'. Bill
and I hit this when we competed in the '55 Eastern's
in Baltimore (he threw 241.5 to my 240'2" (p.s. he
beat me on his last throw)).<br><br>Again so you
envision the level of throwing at that time my throw was
for the year 1955 7th in the US and 25th in the
world.<br><br>Starting in '54 Bud Held developed technigue and Dick Held
in creating a better mouse trap (javelin) which lead
an explosion of increasing distances. Bud and Bill
started to break the world record reguarly. Bill Miller
threw 266'8.5" on 8/21/54 for a World Record which was
in short order broken many times in the ensuing few
years. <br><br>In 1956, Bill Alley, from NJ, threw
242'6" while AL Cantello reached 249' in 58 and later
set the World Record at 288".<br><br>Another NE
thrower, was a NY youngster I coached, who broke my Met
AAU record of 238' in, I think, 1963, with a 250'
throw but his name has passed from my memory.<br><br>In
any event the above at leasts takes you thru 1965 in
the NE. From there you have to tap the memory of
someone else to see the picture.<br><br>SK




Thu Dec 28, 2000 12:56 am

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From the Forum - Tue Dec 26 06:39:40 2000<br><br>Jan had succeed throu rhytm and frequence.<br>Besides of his great throwing technique, his best advantage is...
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Wed Dec 27 17:04:05 2000<br><br><br>In looking at the effort to come up with the best of the NE it seemed sad that the history of the Javelin was so lacking as...
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BP - Zelezny training schedule<br>Tue Jan 2 14:55:12 2001<br><br>B) Period of speed-Strength Training<br>January-February: long-term stay in warm...
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BP - Zelezny training schedule<br>Tue Jan 2 14:55:12 2001<br><br>1. PLAN OF A YEAR TRAINING CYCLE<br><br>A) Period of Conditioning<br><br>a) Mid-September: end...
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Bob Roggy, AL Cantello and Duncan Atwood <br>Mike Chapman, Scottsdale Arizona - From The forum - More for you. - Thu Sep 28 02:36:51 ...
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Bob Roggy, AL Cantello and Duncan Atwood <br>Mike Chapman, Scottsdale Arizona - From The forum - More for you. - Thu Sep 28 02:36:51 ...
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Marty / Your Email didn't work, so....<br>Sat Jan 13 10:43:07 2001<br><br><br>Hello. In the follow through motion, the muscles of the rotator cuff at the ...
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What you explain are the common mecs of the arm.<br>BUT there is a big "but" the tears normaly came from a too early stop of the move and not because of a ...
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What you explain are the common mecs of the arm.<br>BUT there is a big "but" the tears normaly came from a too early stop of the move and not because of a ...
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Mon Jan 15 03:45:13 2001 - From The forum By: Harri Autero<br><br>Hi!<br><br>Last year read a finnish research on how, fast, strong etc. you had to be to throw...
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Wed Mar 7 13:51:47 2001<br><br>A half miler runs heel toe and they go faster then you need to run down the javelin runway.<br><br>It's not so much how fast you...
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Tue Mar 6 16:05:23 2001<br><br>I think trying one crossover is probably to fast to allow your body to go a full 180 degrees. One or two will get the body...
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Tue Mar 6 14:50:01 2001<br><br>Probably all of what you mentioned. <br><br>Warmups is stretching the muscles out that not only means limbering up exercises but...
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I was told recently to do Olympic Lifts in place of much of my current workout. What exactly is meant by this?...
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To answer your question please explain what kind of lifts are you doing now....
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To answer your question please explain what kind of lifts are you doing now....
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NGC - Mon Mar 19 18:45:38 2001<br>how can i really "nail" the soft-step plant?<br>hi fellas,<br>just wondering, can anybody recommend a good "thought" process...
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Javelin Thowers, athletes and coaches looking to exchange information and ideas about the Javelin Throw here is the link to the Javelin Discussion Forum ...
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The most important lifts for the javelin are:<br>Snatch ( Light weight )<br>Straight arm pull over ( quick and light weigth), Squat (full & half) ( Mix with ...
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take a few very slow steps and just gently throw the javelin out there it seems to "float" very nicely and straight. however as soon as i try to really give it...
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First stick the javelin as deep into the V as you can get it. Make sure the front fingers are firm on the shaft and keep the shaft against the thumb ...
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Fri Feb 2 19:37:45 2001<br><br>This is a subject I feel that needs to be addressed. "My opinion of course." The olympic lifts are the most athletic form of ...
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Arm<br>-&gt; MF That's exactly right -&gt;from The Forum<br>Thu Mar 22 12:12:18 2001<br><br><br>I am not a fan of the phrase "over the top". The correct ...
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Fri Mar 23 18:51:18 2001 <br>Ok...I have some time to list a couple of drills<br><br>Target throwing. This is the first thing you should do each year when you...
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Tue Mar 27 17:54:02 2001 - Edited from the forum<br><br>First thing you need to do is use logic and common sense.<br><br>If you feel you are getting physically...
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Tom Pukstys - Thu Mar 8 23:55:45 2001<br><br>This is the time of year when you will begin to venture out for some throws in the cold climate schools, and the...
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Discus/Javelin - Fri Dec 15 15:33:35 2000<br><br>I have seen more javelin throwers ruined by discus than any other combination. Unfortunatly coaches want ...
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Rule and New Rule Javelin - Sun Mar 11 09:50:28 2001<br><br>Being a bit older and having seen some big time throws and throwers, heres my take-<br>Petranoff-...
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Harri Autero, thrower&coach <br>Mon Jan 8 05:34:46 2001<br><br>I think the present direction in javelin throwers weight training is away from normal squats. I...
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