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Elbow bend

Marty<br>From the Forum<br>Sat Oct 28 09:36:34
2000<br><br>I agree that minor elbow bend before the plant is
not crippling. However at the plant the arm should
have achieved as near a full extension as possible. If
the elbow is bent before the plant, as the hips and
shoulders square to the field the bent elbow takes the arm
out along a path to the right. The tip will generally
point right of center where the throw will tend to
land. The height of release is diminished, the power is
less when the throw moves away from the base of
support as the contribution of large central muscles is
diminished (lats, abs), and the elbow is placed at risk as
it snaps the forearm down and back at the plant. In
contrast, a long extended relaxed arm is easier to delay
while the hips and shoulders square to the throw the
arm takes a higher path with the elbow passing closer
to the ear. This allows a higher release, more power
pulling over the base of support and minimizes risk of
injury. Practicing to short arm throws is bad whether it
is from 3 steps, 5 steps or full approach. The more
bend you practice at the elbow, the more you cause a
separation in effort between the hip/shoulder action and the
arm. In the end you are left with mainly what the arm
can still contribute-an arm throw. When I do
technical workouts I do not add to my approach until I can
perform properly from shorter approaches. There should be
attention to the near vertical alignment of the
contributions of hip shoulder and arm to maximize efficiency
and prevent injury. The end point of throwing hand
over plant foot is a useful tool to image.




Sat Oct 28, 2000 5:40 pm

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Marty<br>From the Forum<br>Sat Oct 28 09:36:34 2000<br><br>I agree that minor elbow bend before the plant is not crippling. However at the plant the arm should...
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Levers,<br>The answer as to what muscles is "all"...some more some less. The legs back and shoulder need to be the strongest since the primary throwing motion...
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welihozkiy - Core Exercises - Fri Oct 6 08:13:50 2000<br><br>I'm posting this for the forum to have in it's search data base and for those who are feeling a...
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Mike Chapman, Scottsdale Arizona - Sun Aug 20 20:05:03 2000<br><br>John to achieve this you must practise strengthening movements similar to javelin ...
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Mike Chapman, Scottsdale Arizona - Sun Aug 20 20:05:03 2000<br><br>John to achieve this you must practise strengthening movements similar to javelin ...
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From the Forum - Tue Dec 12 19:54:50 2000<br><br>Upon landing of the plant leg, all athletes tend to be facing the same way, whether they are considered ...
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From The Forum - Tue Dec 12 11:25:31 2000<br><br>When you say you want to have your upper body in "correct position", I assume that you're maybe anticipating...
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From The Forum - Thu Dec 14 11:46:10 2000<br><br>I must say that I went through all this with Juris Terauds and Bob Greger in the 80's and the best advise they...
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from the forum - Mon Dec 18 20:27:56 2000<br><br>The time of year is coming where you should be begining to consider more specific work after getting through...
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From the Forum - Fri Dec 22 05:47:34 2000<br><br>Any gains in physical power can help your javelin results, but you should have the ability to transfer the ...
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Steps: <br>1. Step to the bar and get positioned. Place your feet hip-width apart with the bar directly over the balls of your feet. Set the bar right above ...
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Steps: <br>1. Step to the bar and get positioned. Place your feet hip-width apart, with the bar directly over the balls of your feet. Set the bar right over ...
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From the Forum - Tue Dec 26 06:39:40 2000<br><br>Jan had succeed throu rhytm and frequence.<br>Besides of his great throwing technique, his best advantage is...
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Wed Dec 27 17:04:05 2000<br><br><br>In looking at the effort to come up with the best of the NE it seemed sad that the history of the Javelin was so lacking as...
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BP - Zelezny training schedule<br>Tue Jan 2 14:55:12 2001<br><br>D) Competition Season<br><br>Strong emphasis on subjective assessment of athlete’s current...
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Marty / Your Email didn't work, so....<br>Sat Jan 13 10:43:07 2001<br><br><br>Hello. In the follow through motion, the muscles of the rotator cuff at the ...
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What you explain are the common mecs of the arm.<br>BUT there is a big "but" the tears normaly came from a too early stop of the move and not because of a ...
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What you explain are the common mecs of the arm.<br>BUT there is a big "but" the tears normaly came from a too early stop of the move and not because of a ...
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Mon Jan 15 03:45:13 2001 - From The forum By: Harri Autero<br><br>Hi!<br><br>Last year read a finnish research on how, fast, strong etc. you had to be to throw...
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Wed Mar 7 13:51:47 2001<br><br>A half miler runs heel toe and they go faster then you need to run down the javelin runway.<br><br>It's not so much how fast you...
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