Sorry sir. It appears that my other email account is not sending messages
out. Did you receive the ones I sent you directly?

Let me know,
Robert Martin
A-4-336

-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry Meyour
To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
Sent: 1/6/01 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan

Thank you, but I could not find the file section on the webpage of the
group. Could you guide me step by step, or send me the pics by Private
e.mail.

Thanks,

Thierry Meyour
------------------------------------------------------
Thierry MEYOUR,
FL-5-2
Black Eagle Taekwon-Do
Juvankatu 56B7, 33710, Tampere, FINLAND
Tel/Fax: +358 331 60907
GSM: +358 40 712 6810
e.mail: srtmf@...
www.blackeagletkd.com
------------------------------------------------------

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Martin <kickerfour@...>
To: <itf-taekwondo@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan


> Sir, I have uploaded some pics to the itf-taekwondo@egroups web site.
Just go into the files section and you can download them from there.
>
> Hope they help.
> Robert Martin
> A-4-336
>
> PS: One of my engineering buddies is going to take the pics and
convert them to drawings. When that's done, we'll upload them also.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Thierry Meyour
>   To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:08 AM
>   Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan
>
>
>   THIS WOULD BE PERFECT: thanks
>
>   Thierry Meyour
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Robert Martin <kickerfour@...>
>   To: <itf-taekwondo@egroups.com>
>   Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:27 PM
>   Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan
>
>
>   > Sir, I don't have plans but I have a very nice holder. I would be
happy to take some digital picutures of it for you and give you some
basic deminisions. Do you think this would help?
>   >
>   > Regards,
>   > Robert Martin
>   > A-4-336
>   >
>   > We've been meaning to do plans but just haven't had the time!
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Thierry Meyour
>   >   To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
>   >   Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:18 AM
>   >   Subject: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan
>   >
>   >
>   >   Dear friends,
>   >
>   >   Would it be possible to get the plans for a board holder as we
have purchased plastic boards and we need a board holder to be able to
break them. It is quite urgent. I would need a wood board holder.
>   >
>   >   Yours,
>   >
>   >   Thierry Meyour
>   >   ------------------------------------------------------
>   >   Thierry MEYOUR,
>   >   FL-5-2
>   >   Black Eagle Taekwon-Do
>   >   Juvankatu 56B7, 33710, Tampere, FINLAND
>   >   Tel/Fax: +358 331 60907
>   >   GSM: +358 40 712 6810
>   >   e.mail: srtmf@...
>   >   www.blackeagletkd.com
>   >   ------------------------------------------------------
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >         eGroups Sponsor
>   >
>   >
>   >   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>   >   itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   >
>   >
>   > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>   > itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>
>         eGroups Sponsor
>
>
>   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>   itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>


To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com

Thank you, but I could not find the file section on the webpage of the group.
Could you guide me step by step, or send me the pics by Private e.mail.

Thanks,

Thierry Meyour
------------------------------------------------------
Thierry MEYOUR,
FL-5-2
Black Eagle Taekwon-Do
Juvankatu 56B7, 33710, Tampere, FINLAND
Tel/Fax: +358 331 60907
GSM: +358 40 712 6810
e.mail: srtmf@...
www.blackeagletkd.com
------------------------------------------------------

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Martin <kickerfour@...>
To: <itf-taekwondo@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan


> Sir, I have uploaded some pics to the itf-taekwondo@egroups web site. Just go
into the files section and you can download them from there.
>
> Hope they help.
> Robert Martin
> A-4-336
>
> PS: One of my engineering buddies is going to take the pics and convert them
to drawings. When that's done, we'll upload them also.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Thierry Meyour
>   To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:08 AM
>   Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan
>
>
>   THIS WOULD BE PERFECT: thanks
>
>   Thierry Meyour
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Robert Martin <kickerfour@...>
>   To: <itf-taekwondo@egroups.com>
>   Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:27 PM
>   Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan
>
>
>   > Sir, I don't have plans but I have a very nice holder. I would be happy to
take some digital picutures of it for you and give you some basic deminisions.
Do you think this would help?
>   >
>   > Regards,
>   > Robert Martin
>   > A-4-336
>   >
>   > We've been meaning to do plans but just haven't had the time!
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Thierry Meyour
>   >   To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
>   >   Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:18 AM
>   >   Subject: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan
>   >
>   >
>   >   Dear friends,
>   >
>   >   Would it be possible to get the plans for a board holder as we have
purchased plastic boards and we need a board holder to be able to break them. It
is quite urgent. I would need a wood board holder.
>   >
>   >   Yours,
>   >
>   >   Thierry Meyour
>   >   ------------------------------------------------------
>   >   Thierry MEYOUR,
>   >   FL-5-2
>   >   Black Eagle Taekwon-Do
>   >   Juvankatu 56B7, 33710, Tampere, FINLAND
>   >   Tel/Fax: +358 331 60907
>   >   GSM: +358 40 712 6810
>   >   e.mail: srtmf@...
>   >   www.blackeagletkd.com
>   >   ------------------------------------------------------
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >         eGroups Sponsor
>   >
>   >
>   >   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>   >   itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   >
>   >
>   > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>   > itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>
>         eGroups Sponsor
>
>
>   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>   itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>

Sir, I have uploaded some pics to the itf-taekwondo@egroups web site. Just go
into the files section and you can download them from there.

Hope they help.
Robert Martin
A-4-336

PS: One of my engineering buddies is going to take the pics and convert them to
drawings. When that's done, we'll upload them also.

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Thierry Meyour
   To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
   Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:08 AM
   Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan


   THIS WOULD BE PERFECT: thanks

   Thierry Meyour
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Robert Martin <kickerfour@...>
   To: <itf-taekwondo@egroups.com>
   Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:27 PM
   Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan


   > Sir, I don't have plans but I have a very nice holder. I would be happy to
take some digital picutures of it for you and give you some basic deminisions.
Do you think this would help?
   >
   > Regards,
   > Robert Martin
   > A-4-336
   >
   > We've been meaning to do plans but just haven't had the time!
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: Thierry Meyour
   >   To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
   >   Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:18 AM
   >   Subject: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan
   >
   >
   >   Dear friends,
   >
   >   Would it be possible to get the plans for a board holder as we have
purchased plastic boards and we need a board holder to be able to break them. It
is quite urgent. I would need a wood board holder.
   >
   >   Yours,
   >
   >   Thierry Meyour
   >   ------------------------------------------------------
   >   Thierry MEYOUR,
   >   FL-5-2
   >   Black Eagle Taekwon-Do
   >   Juvankatu 56B7, 33710, Tampere, FINLAND
   >   Tel/Fax: +358 331 60907
   >   GSM: +358 40 712 6810
   >   e.mail: srtmf@...
   >   www.blackeagletkd.com
   >   ------------------------------------------------------
   >
   >
   >
   >         eGroups Sponsor
   >
   >
   >   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
   >   itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >
   >
   > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
   > itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
   >
   >
   >


         eGroups Sponsor


   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
   itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

GREAT WORDS!!!

Regards to all

MArcelo

At 12.11 05/01/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>To the list,
>
>The message below is taken from the December 2000 USTF Quarterly
newsletter. (Some of you will have gotten this already - sorry.)
>
>Something for us all to thing about!
>
>Taekwon,
>Robert Martin
>A-4-336
>
>".....I would like to talk to each of you to get some ideas on how we can
get back to our original brotherhood of Black Belts. In the past, we all
looked out for each other, protected each others dignity, no matter the
cost, and treated each other like family.
>
>    We have always been a family, a Taekwondo family. Lately, I have
noticed some very bad signs of this family splitting apart at the seams.
Instead of being excited for someone's success, I see students and
instructors showing signs of poor sportsmanship, bad etiquette, and using
no common sense when it comes to the basic courtesy we should be showing to
everyone, including each other.
>
>    This is a new year, lets make it a good one by going back to the very
basics that has made us all ladies and gentlemen. A simple greeting to each
other at events would be a first step.
>
>    I was sincere when I asked for all of your help. In order for this
family to survive, we need your help........
>
>Grand Master Charles E. Sereff"
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>

To the list,

The message below is taken from the December 2000 USTF Quarterly newsletter.
(Some of you will have gotten this already - sorry.)

Something for us all to thing about!

Taekwon,
Robert Martin
A-4-336

".....I would like to talk to each of you to get some ideas on how we can get
back to our original brotherhood of Black Belts. In the past, we all looked out
for each other, protected each others dignity, no matter the cost, and treated
each other like family.

     We have always been a family, a Taekwondo family. Lately, I have noticed
some very bad signs of this family splitting apart at the seams. Instead of
being excited for someone's success, I see students and instructors showing
signs of poor sportsmanship, bad etiquette, and using no common sense when it
comes to the basic courtesy we should be showing to everyone, including each
other.

     This is a new year, lets make it a good one by going back to the very basics
that has made us all ladies and gentlemen. A simple greeting to each other at
events would be a first step.

     I was sincere when I asked for all of your help. In order for this family to
survive, we need your help........

Grand Master Charles E. Sereff"


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

THIS WOULD BE PERFECT: thanks

Thierry Meyour
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Martin <kickerfour@...>
To: <itf-taekwondo@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan


> Sir, I don't have plans but I have a very nice holder. I would be happy to
take some digital picutures of it for you and give you some basic deminisions.
Do you think this would help?
>
> Regards,
> Robert Martin
> A-4-336
>
> We've been meaning to do plans but just haven't had the time!
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Thierry Meyour
>   To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:18 AM
>   Subject: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan
>
>
>   Dear friends,
>
>   Would it be possible to get the plans for a board holder as we have
purchased plastic boards and we need a board holder to be able to break them. It
is quite urgent. I would need a wood board holder.
>
>   Yours,
>
>   Thierry Meyour
>   ------------------------------------------------------
>   Thierry MEYOUR,
>   FL-5-2
>   Black Eagle Taekwon-Do
>   Juvankatu 56B7, 33710, Tampere, FINLAND
>   Tel/Fax: +358 331 60907
>   GSM: +358 40 712 6810
>   e.mail: srtmf@...
>   www.blackeagletkd.com
>   ------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>         eGroups Sponsor
>
>
>   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>   itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>

Sir, I don't have plans but I have a very nice holder. I would be happy to take
some digital picutures of it for you and give you some basic deminisions. Do you
think this would help?

Regards,
Robert Martin
A-4-336

We've been meaning to do plans but just haven't had the time!
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Thierry Meyour
   To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
   Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:18 AM
   Subject: [itf-taekwondo] Board Holder plan


   Dear friends,

   Would it be possible to get the plans for a board holder as we have purchased
plastic boards and we need a board holder to be able to break them. It is quite
urgent. I would need a wood board holder.

   Yours,

   Thierry Meyour
   ------------------------------------------------------
   Thierry MEYOUR,
   FL-5-2
   Black Eagle Taekwon-Do
   Juvankatu 56B7, 33710, Tampere, FINLAND
   Tel/Fax: +358 331 60907
   GSM: +358 40 712 6810
   e.mail: srtmf@...
   www.blackeagletkd.com
   ------------------------------------------------------



         eGroups Sponsor


   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
   itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear friends,

Would it be possible to get the plans for a board holder as we have purchased
plastic boards and we need a board holder to be able to break them. It is quite
urgent. I would need a wood board holder.

Yours,

Thierry Meyour
------------------------------------------------------
Thierry MEYOUR,
FL-5-2
Black Eagle Taekwon-Do
Juvankatu 56B7, 33710, Tampere, FINLAND
Tel/Fax: +358 331 60907
GSM: +358 40 712 6810
e.mail: srtmf@...
www.blackeagletkd.com
------------------------------------------------------

Dear Justin:

I received an email asking me if I want to join it.
regards

MArcelo Cataldo
PA-4-8

At 02.04 04/01/2001 -0000, you wrote:
>Dear list members,
>
>I just joined this new list from a link on the School of Taekwon-Do
>Website.
>
>To Master Steiner, Mr Martin, Mr Cataldo, Mr Morrison and other list
>members: Where or how did you find out about this list?
>
>
>Justin Tan
>SI-2-19
>
>--- In itf-taekwondo@egroups.com, Marcelo Cataldo <mcataldo@c...>
>wrote:
>> And who is the moderator or owner? I know the owner of the other
>list
>> Master Steiner and its a person that knows Taekwondo ITF very well.
>> Regards
>> Marcelo
>>
>> At 19.00 27/12/2000 -0000, you wrote:
>> >To the list,
>> >
>> >This is a NEW list. It is in NO WAY an official list sponsored by
>the ITF.
>> >It is not associated with any other list.
>> >
>> >Currently, all messages must be approved by the list moderator.
>The
>> >ownership would like communication kept to a minimum until we
>reach the goal
>> >of 25 members. Currently, we have 15 members.
>> >
>> >Regards
>> >itf-taekwondo-owner@egroups.com
>> >_________________________________________________________________
>> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>> >itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>

Hello Mr. Tan, and all!

>I just joined this new list from a link on the School of Taekwon-Do
>Website.
>
>To Master Steiner, Mr Martin, Mr Cataldo, Mr Morrison and other list
>members: Where or how did you find out about this list?

I just happened to be browsing around egroups, and on a whim, I checked to
see what was available under tae kwon do.  When I found it, I was
interested to see what it was all about.  I am currently not able to be
active, for health reasons, and I very much miss all my TKD friends.

Respectfully,


Susan (the Neon Nurse) Crites
A-1-5937

++++++++++++++++++++++carosue@...+++++++++++++++++++++
Courtesy*Integrity*Perseverance*Self Control*Indomitable Spirit

Greetings...
    I was wondering if anyone knew of a resource (preferably online, for easy
resource) that would have the "standard" pattern definitions in Korean? I
found a site at one time, but I can no longer get to it
(http://www11.inticity.com/chance00/muyea/taegun/taechul.htm). I knew I
should have printed it out then :)
	 Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time and
efforts...

<<bows respectfully>>

- Bert Edens
   Red Belt (and testing on the 13th) / ITF-Style TKD
   Springdale, Arkansas

In a perfect Dojang, in addition to Mr. Martin's square footage desires, I would
also like to be able to hang at least 6 heavy bags that would be permanent yet
not in the way during regular class. A seperate warm up area would be nice as
well.

Good Topic!

Taekwon,
Chris Reid


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I guess I would just like a rough spot were the focus would be on teaching and
learning Taekwon-Do. Our regular meeting place is closed during summer and
various breaks. During those times we meet at a bit of a run down gym owned by
local recreation district. The lighting is poor, the floor is coming apart, and
the restrooms aren't the cleanest but I love the place. (During the rest of the
time it is a teen center. It gets pretty beat up.)


For me, the perfect dojang would be very simple. I would like a gymnasium about
3000 square feet, a bit of storage and a decent place to change clothing. The
most extravagant thing would be mirrors on the wall.

Robert Martin
A-4-336

   Just for fun, what other things would be great to have in a Perfect Dojang?

   Susan (the Neon Nurse) Crites
   A-1-5937




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Good day sir.

I must admit I am slightly baffled as to this myself. I believe that there
was a message on the old list and you had to reply to join. I think that
this is the only explanation that I can come up with.

Hope this helps,

Regards,

Kris Morrison

GB-1-2078


>From: "Justin Tan" <justintwk@...>
>Reply-To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
>To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
>Subject: [itf-taekwondo] Re: new list
>Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 02:04:16 -0000
>
>Dear list members,
>
>I just joined this new list from a link on the School of Taekwon-Do
>Website.
>
>To Master Steiner, Mr Martin, Mr Cataldo, Mr Morrison and other list
>members: Where or how did you find out about this list?
>
>
>Justin Tan
>SI-2-19
>
>--- In itf-taekwondo@egroups.com, Marcelo Cataldo <mcataldo@c...>
>wrote:
> > And who is the moderator or owner? I know the owner of the other
>list
> > Master Steiner and its a person that knows Taekwondo ITF very well.
> > Regards
> > Marcelo
> >
> > At 19.00 27/12/2000 -0000, you wrote:
> > >To the list,
> > >
> > >This is a NEW list. It is in NO WAY an official list sponsored by
>the ITF.
> > >It is not associated with any other list.
> > >
> > >Currently, all messages must be approved by the list moderator.
>The
> > >ownership would like communication kept to a minimum until we
>reach the goal
> > >of 25 members. Currently, we have 15 members.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >itf-taekwondo-owner@egroups.com
> > >_________________________________________________________________
> > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > >itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

_________________________________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Dear list members,

I just joined this new list from a link on the School of Taekwon-Do
Website.

To Master Steiner, Mr Martin, Mr Cataldo, Mr Morrison and other list
members: Where or how did you find out about this list?


Justin Tan
SI-2-19

--- In itf-taekwondo@egroups.com, Marcelo Cataldo <mcataldo@c...>
wrote:
> And who is the moderator or owner? I know the owner of the other
list
> Master Steiner and its a person that knows Taekwondo ITF very well.
> Regards
> Marcelo
>
> At 19.00 27/12/2000 -0000, you wrote:
> >To the list,
> >
> >This is a NEW list. It is in NO WAY an official list sponsored by
the ITF.
> >It is not associated with any other list.
> >
> >Currently, all messages must be approved by the list moderator.
The
> >ownership would like communication kept to a minimum until we
reach the goal
> >of 25 members. Currently, we have 15 members.
> >
> >Regards
> >itf-taekwondo-owner@egroups.com
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
> >
> >
> >
> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Hello Mr. Martin, and all!

I do not have all that much teaching or personal experience, compared to
most, but if you don't mind an observation from a junior, I will try.

At 01:37 PM 12/29/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>Over the last few months, at tournaments (including at Gen. Choi's Cup),
>testings and the like (including class), I've noticed a very bad situation
>developing with technique. The opposite hand (in other words, the
>non-blocking or punching hand) is not coming back to the belt level.
>Instead, it is floating around the belt level, sometimes palm up and
>sometimes palm in a different position. Has anybody else noticed this?
>
>It seems, to me, that as we teach (and learn) sign wave the opposite hand is
>losing its position.

I started TKD a WAY long time ago, before sine wave, and I recall proper
secondary hand position as being a problem then too.  My GUESS is that for
many beginners, who feel overwhelmed with so very many details to try to
concentrate on with every single new command to advance across the floor,
the "non-active" hand is the one getting the smallest amount of their
concentration at any given moment.

I can remember my instructor calling "Check your feet" frequently, but only
occasional correction of secondary hand placement at the belt.  From what I
know of all types of learning, what gets reinforced the most gets learned
the best....

I got to thinking about this, and it made me imagine a set up that would be
great in the Perfect Dojang (what you could have if you won the Powerball
lotto and had unlimited funds to develop it).

Imagine if you could have a computerized PowerPoint-like display projected
on the front and back wall during class.  Several slides showing foot
position diagrams, a correctly positioned figure with highlights to remind
students to check themselves for accuracy, maybe even occasional reminders
like "Perseverance!" popping up.  It would cover the basics and let the
teacher speak on details and do more personal one on one interaction.

Just for fun, what other things would be great to have in a Perfect Dojang?

Susan (the Neon Nurse) Crites
A-1-5937

++++++++++++++++++++++carosue@...+++++++++++++++++++++
Courtesy*Integrity*Perseverance*Self Control*Indomitable Spirit

Dear list memebers,

We are now at the 23 members. Please feel free to post to the list. Good
topics are questions about technique, patterns, history or philosophy of
Taekwon-Do.

Thank you for your support.

itf-taekwondo-owner@egroups.com
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Over the last few months, at tournaments (including at Gen. Choi's Cup),
testings and the like (including class), I've noticed a very bad situation
developing with technique. The opposite hand (in other words, the
non-blocking or punching hand) is not coming back to the belt level.
Instead, it is floating around the belt level, sometimes palm up and
sometimes palm in a different position. Has anybody else noticed this?

It seems, to me, that as we teach (and learn) sign wave the opposite hand is
losing its position.

Any comments?

Robert Martin
A-4-336

Just to update you.

We currently have 16 members. We were hoping for 25 members before making
the list active. However, we have decided to go ahead and open the list.
Message will not longer have to be approved by the moderators in order for
them to be posted.

Thank you,

itf-taekwondo-owner@egroups.com
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Sirs, i am slightly confused. Is this  a new list, and if so, how did I/we
manage to become members?

I recognise both Master Steiner, and Marcelo from the 'other' list and this
is my reason for asking.

TaeKwon!

Kris Morrison

GB-1-2078

>From: Ansen <ChiTKD1@...>
>Reply-To: itf-taekwondo@egroups.com
>To: "INTERNET:itf-taekwondo@egroups.com" <itf-taekwondo@egroups.com>
>CC: Ansen <103372.111@...>
>Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] new egroups list
>Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 18:35:12 -0500
>
>Dear Marcelo,
>I read the e-mails just like you and are not the creator of any site except
>www.chitkd.com
>
>Master Steiner
>

_________________________________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Dear Marcelo,
I read the e-mails just like you and are not the creator of any site except
www.chitkd.com

Master Steiner

Dear Master Steiner:

So you are NOT the creator of the [ITF TKD] list?

Regards

Marcelo

At 20.58 27/12/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>I have nothing to do with any list or part of any list. I get the same
>messages as everyone else on this list as well as the other list so I don't
>know where you got your information.
>
>
>Master Steiner
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>

I have nothing to do with any list or part of any list. I get the same
messages as everyone else on this list as well as the other list so I don't
know where you got your information.


Master Steiner

Who is the moderator of this "new" list ?

Master Steiner

And who is the moderator or owner? I know the owner of the other list
Master Steiner and its a person that knows Taekwondo ITF very well.
Regards
Marcelo

At 19.00 27/12/2000 -0000, you wrote:
>To the list,
>
>This is a NEW list. It is in NO WAY an official list sponsored by the ITF.
>It is not associated with any other list.
>
>Currently, all messages must be approved by the list moderator. The
>ownership would like communication kept to a minimum until we reach the goal
>of 25 members. Currently, we have 15 members.
>
>Regards
>itf-taekwondo-owner@egroups.com
>_________________________________________________________________
>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>

To the list,

This is a NEW list. It is in NO WAY an official list sponsored by the ITF.
It is not associated with any other list.

Currently, all messages must be approved by the list moderator. The
ownership would like communication kept to a minimum until we reach the goal
of 25 members. Currently, we have 15 members.

Regards
itf-taekwondo-owner@egroups.com
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Dear Maste Steiner, this is not your list, I thought that you change the
name or something like that.
Kindly Regards

Marcelo

At 12.39 27/12/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Who is in charge of this list ?
>
>Master Steiner
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>

Who is in charge of this list ?

Master Steiner

I thought that we were more than 100 in this list!!!

At 08.11 27/12/2000 -0000, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>You have joined a new egroups list dedicated to the International Taekwon-Do
>Federation and Gen. Choi Hong Hi. Currently they are only 13 or so members
>on the list. We would like to get at least 25 members before making the list
>very active. Your support is appreciated.
>
>Thank you,
>
>itf-taekwondo-owner@egroups.com
>_________________________________________________________________
>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>itf-taekwondo-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>
>

Hello,

You have joined a new egroups list dedicated to the International Taekwon-Do
Federation and Gen. Choi Hong Hi. Currently they are only 13 or so members
on the list. We would like to get at least 25 members before making the list
very active. Your support is appreciated.

Thank you,

itf-taekwondo-owner@egroups.com
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com