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This live event is dedicated to martial artists who preserve the old school
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Promoted on YouTube in an Internet reality show, this is a challenge between
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The live bout will be Friday, December 18, 2009
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I'm
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eventually became a book for both martial artists and self-defense
practitioners. What's really unique about this book is....

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Greetings!

The Taekwon-Joe action figure is going fast!  There's still time to order your
figure before they are sold out and before the holidays.

Visit:  www.taekwon-joe.com

(Note:  Although the figure comes with an ITF patch on the left chest and a USTF
patch on the right chest, the patches are removable.)

Greetings!  I'm pleased to inform you that the original TKD action figure
"Taekwon-Joe" has returned for a limited time.  These figures are 12" tall (like
a GI-Joe) and are fully poseable.  They come complete with an official ITF 4th
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the ITF on the left chest.  (Patches are removable so, if you don't want the
USTF badge, you can peel it off.)

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"... I will repeat my call to ANY seriously interested group in the USA who
wants to participate in the World Cup next October to contact me privately.
We will see what we can do to allow your participation."



Mr Young,



Good to read, good to read.



Thomas Gordon
Master's Seminars April 16-18, 2010
www.GordonMartialArts.com/april
www.facebook.com/tgkick





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Hello,

It was made very clear at the last IIC in New York that the ITF wants the USA to
get it's act together and work together to promote ITF Taekwon-do.  Now, with
respect to Mr. Weston's opinion, I will repeat my call to ANY seriously
interested group in the USA who wants to participate in the World Cup next
October to contact me privately.  We will see what we can do to allow your
participation.

Also, if you are interested in joining us for the IIC in Denver, please let me
know.

The ITF is hosting the above noted events in the US, because they feel they have
a good, democratic organization that would be well supported here.

So, let's move forward shall we?

Taekwon,

Travis G. Young
A-6-104



--- In itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Gordon" <tgordon@...> wrote:
>
> The way I read that, it basically boils down to ITF-V no longer needs
> other ITF practitioners to pay for their events.  It's as if they are
> saying, "Now that we are financially solvent, we don't need you.  Either
> join us or stay away."
>
> I personally don't care for Vegas and couldn't make that trip anyway. So
> it doesn't bother me, just calling em as I see em.
>
> ITF-C/US-ITF has been a bit more open to other ITF practitioners.  And it
> may be a money thing, I don't know.
>
> Thomas Gordon
> Master's Seminars April 16-18, 2010
> www.GordonMartialArts.com/april
> www.facebook.com/tgkick
>

Ok, now lets ee if I have this right:
It appears that the ITF-V & the ITF-NK met in Vienna Austria on Sept 12, 2009.
There were apparently 2 representatives from the ITF-V & 3 from the ITF-NK. The
ITF-NK reports back to their Bd of Directors & congress in October of 2009.
Apparently the news is well received & they are given the permission to meet
again to further the talks. The ITF-V does the same in November of 2009. However
their congress says no, we don't want you to talk any further, even though their
own Bd of Directors wanted to continue talks, just talks.

Can someone explain this to me like I am a 9 year old, as I am having a very
hard time following this or the reason why more talks was not embraced. We are
talking about only having further discussions right? They weren't voting on any
merger where they?

--- In itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com, steve weston <tasitf@...> wrote:
>
> I am still travelling in Argentina but i was in the congress meeting. The
decisions made at congress reflected the feeling that was very strong about the
distrust of the North korean government which controls ITF NK. Even those people
who wanted to delay the court case and enter negotiations with ITF NK didn't
trust them to fulfill their words. So the decision not to enter negotiations was
about the philosophical stand against the behavior of the NK group.
> As for the World cup, it is my understanding that only those members of the
Tran Quan group will be allowed to compete in Las Vegas. I believe that we have
the numbers now to sustain the event by itself without opening it to anyone
else.
> Regards
> steve weston
>
>
>
>      
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There is the problem -- ploitics and maybe more importantly money.

________________________________

From: itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of enzyme229
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:26 AM
To: itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [itf-taekwondo] Re: Looks like ITF-V & ITF-NK are looking to
merge





Setting political agendas aside, having these two groups join together
would be an overwhelming accomplishment and win for its members.






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Setting political agendas aside, having these two groups join together would be
an overwhelming accomplishment and win for its members.

The way I read that, it basically boils down to ITF-V no longer needs
other ITF practitioners to pay for their events.  It's as if they are
saying, "Now that we are financially solvent, we don't need you.  Either
join us or stay away."

I personally don't care for Vegas and couldn't make that trip anyway. So
it doesn't bother me, just calling em as I see em.

ITF-C/US-ITF has been a bit more open to other ITF practitioners.  And it
may be a money thing, I don't know.

Thomas Gordon
Master's Seminars April 16-18, 2010
www.GordonMartialArts.com/april
www.facebook.com/tgkick

That is a shame it would be a much better competition if it was open to everyone
so long as they follow all the rules.

Dena Martin

--- On Thu, 12/3/09, steve weston <tasitf@...> wrote:


From: steve weston <tasitf@...>
Subject: [itf-taekwondo] (unknown)
To: itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 7:56 AM


 



I am still travelling in Argentina but i was in the congress meeting. The
decisions made at congress reflected the feeling that was very strong about the
distrust of the North korean government which controls ITF NK. Even those people
who wanted to delay the court case and enter negotiations with ITF NK didn't
trust them to fulfill their words. So the decision not to enter negotiations was
about the philosophical stand against the behavior of the NK group.
As for the World cup, it is my understanding that only those members of the Tran
Quan group will be allowed to compete in Las Vegas. I believe that we have the
numbers now to sustain the event by itself without opening it to anyone else.
Regards
steve weston


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Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7.
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I am still travelling in Argentina but i was in the congress meeting. The
decisions made at congress reflected the feeling that was very strong about the
distrust of the North korean government which controls ITF NK. Even those people
who wanted to delay the court case and enter negotiations with ITF NK didn't
trust them to fulfill their words. So the decision not to enter negotiations was
about the philosophical stand against the behavior of the NK group.
As for the World cup, it is my understanding that only those members of the Tran
Quan group will be allowed to compete in Las Vegas. I believe that we have the
numbers now to sustain the event by itself without opening it to anyone else.
Regards
steve weston



      
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__
Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7.
Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/

I recall a couple of quotes which makes your case

If you want peace, train for war - Sun Tzu

And this one I do not recall, but

To a warrior, pacifism  is a choice

Rick
Review of Martial Arts Games for Kids
With both a martial
arts background and a degree in Physical Education, I admit to being
skeptical when I read Martial Arts Games for Kids by Aaron Perry. I
found some excellent games for education and maintaining student
interest, loyalty and promotion of your martial arts school. I also
found some points in the book I believe could be improved. Read on
....

http://martialarts808.com/index.php/topic,153.msg193.html#msg193





----- Original Message ----
From: Jye nigma <kingjye@...>
To: the_dojang@...
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 11:52:46 AM
Subject: [itf-taekwondo] From another group: Train For the Fight of Your Life!


> The other night over dinner we had a bit of a family reunion.
> My relative wanted to catch up with my exploits, and there was one topic in
which she seemed unusually interested: my martial arts training. Knowing I was a
black belt, she insisted on hearing how last summer I stomped a rattlesnake to
death on my backyard steps, just as it was threatening to strike.
> "We train for that," I remarked, dryly.
> "To kill snakes with your feet?" she teased.
> "Not exactly. To kill PEOPLE with our feet or hands or with whatever is
convenient," I clarified, not amused by her levity.
> My wife chimed in, having been trained, too; that our discipline relies on
using "empty hands," or weaponless warfare.
> Suddenly, I recognized we had departed from the bounds of dinner table
conversation, so I shifted to another topic.
> But I could see my relative was stuck pondering the idea that we train to
kill. It was unsettling and somehow offensive to her.
> "Aren't the martial arts about PEACE?" she asked, about two minutes later, her
head filled with images of Steven Seagal, "The Karate Kid" and old "Kung Fu" TV
episodes.
> "Yes, peace is the goal," I revved. "But if that isn't possible, and your life
is threatened, or that of someone you are with, you need to use your training to
quickly terminate the danger. Knowing you are ready to do that makes you a more
tranquil person," I said with a note of finality, and a few extra RPM's.
> This exchange reminded me of the time I was at a school mixer when a mom,
crossing her legs ultra-slowly in her tiny white skirt, confided she didn't play
much tennis, "But I LOVE the clothes!"
> Some people trivialize martial arts training in much the same way. Wearing a
uniform and a snappy belt will make them feel good, kind of sexy, and that's why
they signed-up, right?
> What else can you come away with from a storefront operation that may be
squeezed between a 7-11 and an auto parts store: A cheap thrill every now and
then?
> What I didn't get a chance to say, what remained uncomfortably tacit is the
essential idea that we don't fight unless survival is on the line. I didn't
stomp the snake because I'd look cool, or earn a great "rep" for doing it.
> I did it because it was the most effective response I could summon in a life
and death situation. I had perfected the stomp through thousands of repetitions
over the years. My leg and foot and balance knew precisely what to do.
> The stomp "simply came out," as my dojo instructors predicted it would, when a
proper level of provocation confronted me. The timing and the tool, the "man and
the sword," were one.
> If each time you enter the dojo you aren't training for the fight of your
life, you're training the wrong way, or for the wrong reasons.
> My relative wasn't through with me.
> "Why do people get into the martial arts?" she asked.
> "Fear," I replied.
> On that unexpected note, we ended our little chat.




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This email group is in no way associated with any
web site and it is not an official part of the ITF.
Yahoo! Groups Links

> The other night over dinner we had a bit of a family reunion.
> My relative wanted to catch up with my exploits, and there was one topic in
which she seemed unusually interested: my martial arts training. Knowing I was a
black belt, she insisted on hearing how last summer I stomped a rattlesnake to
death on my backyard steps, just as it was threatening to strike.
> "We train for that," I remarked, dryly.
> "To kill snakes with your feet?" she teased.
> "Not exactly. To kill PEOPLE with our feet or hands or with whatever is
convenient," I clarified, not amused by her levity.
> My wife chimed in, having been trained, too; that our discipline relies on
using "empty hands," or weaponless warfare.
> Suddenly, I recognized we had departed from the bounds of dinner table
conversation, so I shifted to another topic.
> But I could see my relative was stuck pondering the idea that we train to
kill. It was unsettling and somehow offensive to her.
> "Aren't the martial arts about PEACE?" she asked, about two minutes later, her
head filled with images of Steven Seagal, "The Karate Kid" and old "Kung Fu" TV
episodes.
> "Yes, peace is the goal," I revved. "But if that isn't possible, and your life
is threatened, or that of someone you are with, you need to use your training to
quickly terminate the danger. Knowing you are ready to do that makes you a more
tranquil person," I said with a note of finality, and a few extra RPM's.
> This exchange reminded me of the time I was at a school mixer when a mom,
crossing her legs ultra-slowly in her tiny white skirt, confided she didn't play
much tennis, "But I LOVE the clothes!"
> Some people trivialize martial arts training in much the same way. Wearing a
uniform and a snappy belt will make them feel good, kind of sexy, and that's why
they signed-up, right?
> What else can you come away with from a storefront operation that may be
squeezed between a 7-11 and an auto parts store: A cheap thrill every now and
then?
> What I didn't get a chance to say, what remained uncomfortably tacit is the
essential idea that we don't fight unless survival is on the line. I didn't
stomp the snake because I'd look cool, or earn a great "rep" for doing it.
> I did it because it was the most effective response I could summon in a life
and death situation. I had perfected the stomp through thousands of repetitions
over the years. My leg and foot and balance knew precisely what to do.
> The stomp "simply came out," as my dojo instructors predicted it would, when a
proper level of provocation confronted me. The timing and the tool, the "man and
the sword," were one.
> If each time you enter the dojo you aren't training for the fight of your
life, you're training the wrong way, or for the wrong reasons.
> My relative wasn't through with me.
> "Why do people get into the martial arts?" she asked.
> "Fear," I replied.
> On that unexpected note, we ended our little chat.




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Review of Martial Arts Games for Kids

With both a martial
arts background and a degree in Physical Education, I admit to being
skeptical when I read Martial Arts Games for Kids by Aaron Perry. I
found some excellent games for education and maintaining student
interest, loyalty and promotion of your martial arts school. I also
found some points in the book I believe could be improved. Read on
....

tags: martial arts games, teaching self-defense to kids, children martial arts
classes, getting students,promotion

http://martialarts808.com/index.php/topic,153.msg193.html#msg193

Hello,

I have just returned from an amazing event in Argentina.  The USA did well
earning a 7th place in the medal points, and a 5th place in the medal count out
of 47 countries and 750 athletes in attendance.

I did not attend the Congress meeting that happened over 6 hours, on Friday
morning and evening.  I was busy working with the competitors for which I was
responsible.  So the following is related to you from me as a secondary source. 
Grand Master Van Bynh and Master Suarez from the United States were the only US
representatives at the congress meeting, and I would suggest you contact them if
you want it straight from "the horses mouth" so to speak.

Essentially, the key to resolution between the two groups is an ongoing lawsuit
concerning the ownership and occupation of a building in Vienna and a copyright
infringement case on the use of the ITF name and logos.  The copyright case is
complete (in Vienna only), and the Chang Ung group has modified their uniforms
and logo slightly, but not the ITF insignia and name.  The building is currently
occupied by the North Korean Group and Grand Master Tran's ITF would like them
removed.  This lawsuit is costing both groups a lot of money that could be put
to better use elsewhere.

The Board of GM Tran's ITF would like to have the lawsuit dropped, so that
further deliberations concerning the joint participation of both groups in
future World Cup and World Championships could be obtained for the betterment of
TKD competitors around the world.

GM Tran's ITF is a democracy, and the member countries have voted to continue
the lawsuit at this time.  The vote was split, with (from what I hear) about 55%
voting to continue, and 45% voting to stop the lawsuit.

So this means that there will be in all likelyhood no further discussions
concerning joint championships until the lawsuit is settled.  The ITF Congress
meets every two years, so perhaps things will have moved along a bit more, and a
new vote will be taken in New Zealand in 2011 to move forward with better
relations.

That's all I know at this time.  I would note that the World Cup is to be held
in Las Vegas this next October, and this event can be attended by ANY blue belt
and above who practices the ITF system.  So even non-member groups can be
accepted to this event if they request to do so.  Consider this an invitation to
all those out there in the USA who might want some international competition for
their students, but for whatever reason are not members of GM Tran's ITF. 
Please contact me privately for more information.

Further, there will be an International Instructor Course held by GM Tran's ITF
in Denver next year in April for anyone interested in attending and finding out
what our group is all about.

Taekwon,

Travis G. Young
A-6-104

--- In itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com, "itf.worldwide" <itf.worldwide@...> wrote:
>
> Mr. Young:
> Any news yet to report on?
>

For the search term martial arts ebooks I am presently ranked number one and
number two on Google.
That took a little work to say the least.

Rick
http://newbieservices.com/Ebooks/TopSe_in.htm

I believe GM Tran said this was just a prelimanary meeting to find out what
ITF-NK's expectations are. Being that both sa they are the legit ITF it is going
to be hard to merge without an election by both groups for President.



Taekwon!!

Mike



To: itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com
From: itf.worldwide@...
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:51:50 +0000
Subject: [itf-taekwondo] Re:Looks like ITF-V & ITF-NK are looking to merge





Mr. Young:
Any news yet to report on?

--- In itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com, Travis Young <traviarch2000@...> wrote:
>
> I find this very interesting. The World cup will be held in Las Vegas next
October. I wonder if we could try and get the many ITF factions in the USA to
attend.
>
> I'll be in in Argentina this November. I'll let this group know what the
congress discusses and proposes concerning this merger.
>
> Taekwon,
>
> Travis Young
> A-6-104
>





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Mr. Young:
Any news yet to report on?

--- In itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com, Travis Young <traviarch2000@...> wrote:
>
> I find this very interesting. The World cup will be held in Las Vegas next
October. I wonder if we could try and get the many ITF factions in the USA to
attend.
>
> I'll be in in Argentina this November. I'll let this group know what the
congress discusses and proposes concerning this merger.
>
>  Taekwon,
>
> Travis Young
> A-6-104
>

Anyone know of any ITF schools in Monterrey California?



I will be there from 11/23 - 12/02



Dan





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Hello everyone.  We are currently looking for an ITF instructor at our
school in Crestview, FL.  Salary based on teaching experience.  If you're
interested, drop me an email at tgordon@...



Thomas Gordon

Master's Seminars April 16-18, 2010

www.GordonMartialArts.com/april

www.facebook.com/tgkick









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Interview with Sensei Ron Quaranta, Creator of Budo Nutrition for Martial
Artists and MMA Fighters

What
we did specifically was to research the vitamins and nutrients needed
to meet the physical and mental requirements for martial artists and
MMA enthusiasts. Working in conjunction with a scientific development
team, a select group of these vitamins and nutrients were chosen that
represent the best combination for muscle recovery, flexibility, joint
health and mental focus....

http://martialarts808.com/index.php?topic=152.msg191#msg191

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Master Wong Kick Power: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfxQ9IkGPo4&feature=sub
 
JKD: JEET KUNE DO (EPS 3 Hand Drill) Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbnyy7NALrY&feature=sub
 
JKD: JEET KUNE DO (EPS 3 Hand Drill) Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSayqJkQ14c&feature=sub 
 




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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UsrDKmUkcY&feature=channel




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MMA rules
 
Jye

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, EWEISSTKD@... <EWEISSTKD@...> wrote:


From: EWEISSTKD@... <EWEISSTKD@...>
Subject: Re: [itf-taekwondo] Video Clip: Meet Sensei Mo
To: itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:01 PM


 



What are the rules of the upcoming contest?

Earl Weiss

In a message dated 11/19/2009 2:53:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,
kingjye@yahoo. com writes:

Martial Arts Challengers: Meet Sensei Mo:Karate Champion-Actor- Martial
Art_http://www.youtube. http://wwwhttp: //www.yo_
(http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=8m4zmTDTuJU)

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What are the rules of the upcoming contest?

Earl Weiss


In a message dated 11/19/2009 2:53:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,
kingjye@... writes:




Martial Arts Challengers: Meet Sensei Mo:Karate  Champion-Actor-Martial
Art_http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m4zmTDTuJU)

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Martial Arts Challengers: Meet Sensei Mo:Karate Champion-Actor-Filmmaker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m4zmTDTuJU




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The mystery surrounding Brock Lesnar's illness has been cleared up a bit. The
UFC heavyweight champion is suffering from a bacterial infection in his
intestinal tract, though it looks like he may be released from the hospital
soon.

"He's in stable condition and should be released soon," UFC president Dana White
said.

White said he spoke with Lesnar on Monday, but he wouldn't reveal which hospital
Lesnar was currently being treated at because he wanted to protect his privacy.

White also said he is encouraging Lesnar to check into the renowned Mayo Clinic
in Minnesota for further treatment, but still doesn't know if Lesnar will fight
again.

"It depends on how serious this is," White said.



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White relayed Lesnar's thanks to all his fans for their support as the champ
tries to battle through this infection. "He's never in good spirits and he's not
in good spirits now," White said.

As reported earlier, Lesnar's possible title defense against Shane Carwin at UFC
108 on Jan. 2 has been postponed indefinitely while Lesnar recovers.


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Shortly after Saturday's UFC 105 card in Manchester, England, concluded, UFC
President Dana White revealed that his promotion's heavyweight champion, Brock
Lesnar, is suffering from serious health problems and will not be able to fight
any time soon.



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"He's in rough shape, he's in really bad shape," White said, according to the
Canadian Press. "He is not well and he is not getting any better. ... He's very,
very sick and he's going to be out for a while. He's got a lot of problems. ...
He's got mono and he's got something else wrong with him.
I know what's wrong with him, he just doesn't want me talking about it."

White didn't say exactly what is wrong with Lesnar, although he did specify that
it is not cancer or AIDS. The UFC had previously said Lesnar was suffering from
mononucleosis, but his illness is apparently more serious than that.

Lesnar had been scheduled to defend his title against Shane Carwin on Nov. 21.
When he first started to feel sick, the UFC tentatively re-scheduled the Carwin
bout for Jan. 2. But it will likely be long after Jan. 2 before Lesnar, who won
the undisputed heavyweight title by defeating Frank Mir at UFC 100, is ready to
fight again.

White made room for the possibility of putting together a fight for an interim
heavyweight title while Lesnar is sidelined, although it's not clear who would
participate in that fight. Carwin is reportedly sidelined with a knee injury,
while another top UFC heavyweight, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, is reportedly
battling a staph infection.

The Lesnar illness is the worst piece of news yet in an autumn that has been
full of bad news for the UFC. Champions Lyoto Machida, Anderson Silva and
Georges St. Pierre have all battled injuries, and one of the promotion's most
marketable stars, Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, says he is quitting the UFC to
pursue an acting career. Even on a day when it had a successful show in England,
the UFC is going through a rough patch.




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Martial Arts Challengers: Karate vs Kung Fu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JH4LeU9g34




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