HI,
New to this group, but no stranger to ITP problems.  Thinking abou the
surgery.  Wanting to know who has had it, what the result was, the
recovery and anything else...
You feedback is greatly appreicated!!!!!
Sara

Sara,
     I had surgery to lengthen my ITBand a year ago  January. But, I tried
many other options before surgery (PT, cortisone, rest).  Recovery is taking a
long time. Before surgery I was an avid cyclist and it was  probably an overuse
injury that caused the problem. I won't really find out if  I'm "cured" until
I try cycling my old routes again when the weather is warmer,  which will be
soon, I hope. My leg, close to my knee, still feels achy much of  the time. I'm
wondering if I will be able to do the hills around where I live  without the
same pain as before.
     After the surgery I had PT and I've been going  to a gym to strengthen my
muscles. I did ride some over last summer, but not  hills, usually only
fairly flat ground from 12 to 25 miles at a time a few days  a week at the most.
I
always stretch. At first I iced after every workout. Now,  I'll probably start
out icing after I do a strenuous workout on my "real" bike.  Since the cooler
weather I've been using the semi-recumbent bicycle at the  gym.
     I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but I'm feeling  unsure of what the
actual outcome will be when I get on my bike again. Think  carefully about
choosing
surgery, and try all other options first.
Good luck.
Cheryl


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I'm thinking more and more about it too! I'm going on 6 months with no
relief in sight. (I've tried everything!) A few days ago I went for some
deep tissue work. Now I'm bruised, swollen and my knee hurts in places it
hasn't before. Today it hurt to walk down stairs. (something I haven't
experienced since the original injury). I know Paul has had the surgery with
good results.
Keep me posted on your decision Sara.
jacqui


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    Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:51:29 -0000
    From: "runninggirl2356" <sarapick@...>
Subject: surgery

HI,
New to this group, but no stranger to ITP problems.  Thinking abou the
surgery.  Wanting to know who has had it, what the result was, the recovery
and anything else...
You feedback is greatly appreicated!!!!!
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Hello,
   I have had ITBS on both knees for a couple of years now.
   I have seen that my pain is more when I sit with my knees bent, sort of in a
crouched position. in this position my knees are over stretched on both ends and
this causes a problem in the back of my knee. I dont know if this is connected
to the itbs pain that I get when running long distances(at about the 90 minute
mark) and has gotten progressively worse.
   I have been to boulder center for sports medicine (BCSM) and have gotten
therapy for a while. They did a MRI to see if its a meniscus tear and that came
back -ve. However, my problem doesnt go away. ITBS is here to stay and seems
like I a gonna have to respect that and tune my running(which I havent much of
in a while) to that.
   finally they said that it could be a combination of Patello-femoral-syndrome
and ITBS all conspiring together to make my running hell!.
   I usualy roll on a foam roller and that gives me the best relief. However that
does not help me run longer or faster.
   Any suggestions are welcome. I see that there is some hope in ART.

   anybody with any ideas?
   I want to run a half marathon this year without pain. I used to do that last
year with pain and that aggravated my injury all the more.

   regards
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I also had the surgery and now after a year and a half I am still having pain.
So I agree be careful about getting the surgery.  If there is anything else that
you haven't tried I would try it.  I my experience I was back running with in
about 2 weeks and did not go through PT.  That was a mistake by my Dr. and now I
am suffering through my long hilly runs and I take meds to weaken the pain.



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To: itbs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:19:22 EDT
Subject: Re: [itbs] surgery


Sara,
     I had surgery to lengthen my ITBand a year ago  January. But, I tried
many other options before surgery (PT, cortisone, rest).  Recovery is taking a
long time. Before surgery I was an avid cyclist and it was  probably an overuse
injury that caused the problem. I won't really find out if  I'm "cured" until
I try cycling my old routes again when the weather is warmer,  which will be
soon, I hope. My leg, close to my knee, still feels achy much of  the time. I'm
wondering if I will be able to do the hills around where I live  without the
same pain as before.
     After the surgery I had PT and I've been going  to a gym to strengthen my
muscles. I did ride some over last summer, but not  hills, usually only
fairly flat ground from 12 to 25 miles at a time a few days  a week at the most.
I
always stretch. At first I iced after every workout. Now,  I'll probably start
out icing after I do a strenuous workout on my "real" bike.  Since the cooler
weather I've been using the semi-recumbent bicycle at the  gym.
     I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but I'm feeling  unsure of what the
actual outcome will be when I get on my bike again. Think  carefully about
choosing
surgery, and try all other options first.
Good luck.
Cheryl


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I had surgery in October of last year - so a year & a half ago... I've run 2
half marthathons, and done a Half-ironman triathlong.  My recover was LONG.. I
did PT for about 6 months, then started SLOWLY running.  I would say it took
about a year until I was 100% comfortable that my knee was good to go!

ashleyrunner@... wrote:
   I also had the surgery and now after a year and a half I am still having pain.
So I agree be careful about getting the surgery.  If there is anything else that
you haven't tried I would try it.  I my experience I was back running with in
about 2 weeks and did not go through PT.  That was a mistake by my Dr. and now I
am suffering through my long hilly runs and I take meds to weaken the pain.



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From: cherylkurt@...
To: itbs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:19:22 EDT
Subject: Re: [itbs] surgery


Sara,
     I had surgery to lengthen my ITBand a year ago  January. But, I tried
many other options before surgery (PT, cortisone, rest).  Recovery is taking a
long time. Before surgery I was an avid cyclist and it was  probably an overuse
injury that caused the problem. I won't really find out if  I'm "cured" until
I try cycling my old routes again when the weather is warmer,  which will be
soon, I hope. My leg, close to my knee, still feels achy much of  the time. I'm
wondering if I will be able to do the hills around where I live  without the
same pain as before.
     After the surgery I had PT and I've been going  to a gym to strengthen my
muscles. I did ride some over last summer, but not  hills, usually only
fairly flat ground from 12 to 25 miles at a time a few days  a week at the most.
I
always stretch. At first I iced after every workout. Now,  I'll probably start
out icing after I do a strenuous workout on my "real" bike.  Since the cooler
weather I've been using the semi-recumbent bicycle at the  gym.
     I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but I'm feeling  unsure of what the
actual outcome will be when I get on my bike again. Think  carefully about
choosing
surgery, and try all other options first.
Good luck.
Cheryl


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Hi,
I had the surgery (IT band release)exactly 5 wks. ago today! Rehab is
slow and theres a clicking in my knee but its from scar tissue (I
think). I am in PT and have been for a few weeks. I am able to x-
train about 20 min on the elliptical and do some pool workouts. I
haven't been able to run yet....I was told 6 weeks. (But I am hoping
I can run tomorrow at PT so I can tell the doc something on Monday)
Honestly can't tell if the pain is gone or not bc it hurts a lot
around the scar area but I hope it is just the scar! I can tell the
band is A LOT looser!! I'd love to hear other ppl's stories too!!

--- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, Krista LaPan <kristaeverett@...> wrote:
>
> I had surgery in October of last year - so a year & a half ago...
I've run 2 half marthathons, and done a Half-ironman triathlong.  My
recover was LONG.. I did PT for about 6 months, then started SLOWLY
running.  I would say it took about a year until I was 100%
comfortable that my knee was good to go!
>
> ashleyrunner@... wrote:
>   I also had the surgery and now after a year and a half I am still
having pain.  So I agree be careful about getting the surgery.  If
there is anything else that you haven't tried I would try it.  I my
experience I was back running with in about 2 weeks and did not go
through PT.  That was a mistake by my Dr. and now I am suffering
through my long hilly runs and I take meds to weaken the pain.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cherylkurt@...
> To: itbs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:19:22 EDT
> Subject: Re: [itbs] surgery
>
>
> Sara,
>     I had surgery to lengthen my ITBand a year ago  January. But, I
tried
> many other options before surgery (PT, cortisone, rest).  Recovery
is taking a
> long time. Before surgery I was an avid cyclist and it was
probably an overuse
> injury that caused the problem. I won't really find out if
I'm "cured" until
> I try cycling my old routes again when the weather is warmer,
which will be
> soon, I hope. My leg, close to my knee, still feels achy much of
the time. I'm
> wondering if I will be able to do the hills around where I live
without the
> same pain as before.
>     After the surgery I had PT and I've been going  to a gym to
strengthen my
> muscles. I did ride some over last summer, but not  hills, usually
only
> fairly flat ground from 12 to 25 miles at a time a few days  a week
at the most.
> I
> always stretch. At first I iced after every workout. Now,  I'll
probably start
> out icing after I do a strenuous workout on my "real" bike.  Since
the cooler
> weather I've been using the semi-recumbent bicycle at the  gym.
>     I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but I'm feeling  unsure of what
the
> actual outcome will be when I get on my bike again. Think
carefully about
> choosing
> surgery, and try all other options first.
> Good luck.
> Cheryl
>
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just be careful about jumping back into running so quickly!  Listen to your
body... You will feel the scar tissue for a while...

t_bird_0123 <bishopt@...> wrote:  Hi,
I had the surgery (IT band release)exactly 5 wks. ago today! Rehab is
slow and theres a clicking in my knee but its from scar tissue (I
think). I am in PT and have been for a few weeks. I am able to x-
train about 20 min on the elliptical and do some pool workouts. I
haven't been able to run yet....I was told 6 weeks. (But I am hoping
I can run tomorrow at PT so I can tell the doc something on Monday)
Honestly can't tell if the pain is gone or not bc it hurts a lot
around the scar area but I hope it is just the scar! I can tell the
band is A LOT looser!! I'd love to hear other ppl's stories too!!

--- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, Krista LaPan <kristaeverett@...> wrote:
>
> I had surgery in October of last year - so a year & a half ago...
I've run 2 half marthathons, and done a Half-ironman triathlong.  My
recover was LONG.. I did PT for about 6 months, then started SLOWLY
running.  I would say it took about a year until I was 100%
comfortable that my knee was good to go!
>
> ashleyrunner@... wrote:
>   I also had the surgery and now after a year and a half I am still
having pain.  So I agree be careful about getting the surgery.  If
there is anything else that you haven't tried I would try it.  I my
experience I was back running with in about 2 weeks and did not go
through PT.  That was a mistake by my Dr. and now I am suffering
through my long hilly runs and I take meds to weaken the pain.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cherylkurt@...
> To: itbs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:19:22 EDT
> Subject: Re: [itbs] surgery
>
>
> Sara,
>     I had surgery to lengthen my ITBand a year ago  January. But, I
tried
> many other options before surgery (PT, cortisone, rest).  Recovery
is taking a
> long time. Before surgery I was an avid cyclist and it was
probably an overuse
> injury that caused the problem. I won't really find out if
I'm "cured" until
> I try cycling my old routes again when the weather is warmer,
which will be
> soon, I hope. My leg, close to my knee, still feels achy much of
the time. I'm
> wondering if I will be able to do the hills around where I live
without the
> same pain as before.
>     After the surgery I had PT and I've been going  to a gym to
strengthen my
> muscles. I did ride some over last summer, but not  hills, usually
only
> fairly flat ground from 12 to 25 miles at a time a few days  a week
at the most.
> I
> always stretch. At first I iced after every workout. Now,  I'll
probably start
> out icing after I do a strenuous workout on my "real" bike.  Since
the cooler
> weather I've been using the semi-recumbent bicycle at the  gym.
>     I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but I'm feeling  unsure of what
the
> actual outcome will be when I get on my bike again. Think
carefully about
> choosing
> surgery, and try all other options first.
> Good luck.
> Cheryl
>
>
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Don't mind me, I'm new.  I'm a once a year ITBS sufferer and it usually
goes away after resting up for a coupla weeks, but, I'm wondering if
massage therapy would help with the scar tissue.

Just wondering, and best wishes for a full recovery everyone.

Kuan

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just be careful about jumping back into running so quickly!  Listen to
your body... You will feel the scar tissue for a while...

t_bird_0123 <bishopt@...> wrote:  Hi,
I had the surgery (IT band release)exactly 5 wks. ago today! Rehab is
slow and theres a clicking in my knee but its from scar tissue (I
think). I am in PT and have been for a few weeks. I am able to x-
train about 20 min on the elliptical and do some pool workouts. I
haven't been able to run yet....I was told 6 weeks. (But I am hoping
I can run tomorrow at PT so I can tell the doc something on Monday)
Honestly can't tell if the pain is gone or not bc it hurts a lot
around the scar area but I hope it is just the scar! I can tell the
band is A LOT looser!! I'd love to hear other ppl's stories too!!

--- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, Krista LaPan <kristaeverett@...> wrote:
>
> I had surgery in October of last year - so a year & a half ago...
I've run 2 half marthathons, and done a Half-ironman triathlong.  My
recover was LONG.. I did PT for about 6 months, then started SLOWLY
running.  I would say it took about a year until I was 100%
comfortable that my knee was good to go!
>
> ashleyrunner@... wrote:
>   I also had the surgery and now after a year and a half I am still
having pain.  So I agree be careful about getting the surgery.  If
there is anything else that you haven't tried I would try it.  I my
experience I was back running with in about 2 weeks and did not go
through PT.  That was a mistake by my Dr. and now I am suffering
through my long hilly runs and I take meds to weaken the pain.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cherylkurt@...
> To: itbs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:19:22 EDT
> Subject: Re: [itbs] surgery
>
>
> Sara,
>     I had surgery to lengthen my ITBand a year ago  January. But, I
tried
> many other options before surgery (PT, cortisone, rest).  Recovery
is taking a
> long time. Before surgery I was an avid cyclist and it was
probably an overuse
> injury that caused the problem. I won't really find out if
I'm "cured" until
> I try cycling my old routes again when the weather is warmer,
which will be
> soon, I hope. My leg, close to my knee, still feels achy much of
the time. I'm
> wondering if I will be able to do the hills around where I live
without the
> same pain as before.
>     After the surgery I had PT and I've been going  to a gym to
strengthen my
> muscles. I did ride some over last summer, but not  hills, usually
only
> fairly flat ground from 12 to 25 miles at a time a few days  a week
at the most.
> I
> always stretch. At first I iced after every workout. Now,  I'll
probably start
> out icing after I do a strenuous workout on my "real" bike.  Since
the cooler
> weather I've been using the semi-recumbent bicycle at the  gym.
>     I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but I'm feeling  unsure of what
the
> actual outcome will be when I get on my bike again. Think
carefully about
> choosing
> surgery, and try all other options first.
> Good luck.
> Cheryl
>
>
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yes - deep tissue work will help with the scar tissue.

Kuan <kuanheidi@...> wrote:  Don't mind me, I'm new.  I'm a once a year
ITBS sufferer and it usually
goes away after resting up for a coupla weeks, but, I'm wondering if
massage therapy would help with the scar tissue.

Just wondering, and best wishes for a full recovery everyone.

Kuan

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From: itbs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:itbs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Krista LaPan
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 9:27 AM
To: itbs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [itbs] Re: surgery



just be careful about jumping back into running so quickly!  Listen to
your body... You will feel the scar tissue for a while...

t_bird_0123 <bishopt@...> wrote:  Hi,
I had the surgery (IT band release)exactly 5 wks. ago today! Rehab is
slow and theres a clicking in my knee but its from scar tissue (I
think). I am in PT and have been for a few weeks. I am able to x-
train about 20 min on the elliptical and do some pool workouts. I
haven't been able to run yet....I was told 6 weeks. (But I am hoping
I can run tomorrow at PT so I can tell the doc something on Monday)
Honestly can't tell if the pain is gone or not bc it hurts a lot
around the scar area but I hope it is just the scar! I can tell the
band is A LOT looser!! I'd love to hear other ppl's stories too!!

--- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, Krista LaPan <kristaeverett@...> wrote:
>
> I had surgery in October of last year - so a year & a half ago...
I've run 2 half marthathons, and done a Half-ironman triathlong.  My
recover was LONG.. I did PT for about 6 months, then started SLOWLY
running.  I would say it took about a year until I was 100%
comfortable that my knee was good to go!
>
> ashleyrunner@... wrote:
>   I also had the surgery and now after a year and a half I am still
having pain.  So I agree be careful about getting the surgery.  If
there is anything else that you haven't tried I would try it.  I my
experience I was back running with in about 2 weeks and did not go
through PT.  That was a mistake by my Dr. and now I am suffering
through my long hilly runs and I take meds to weaken the pain.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cherylkurt@...
> To: itbs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:19:22 EDT
> Subject: Re: [itbs] surgery
>
>
> Sara,
>     I had surgery to lengthen my ITBand a year ago  January. But, I
tried
> many other options before surgery (PT, cortisone, rest).  Recovery
is taking a
> long time. Before surgery I was an avid cyclist and it was
probably an overuse
> injury that caused the problem. I won't really find out if
I'm "cured" until
> I try cycling my old routes again when the weather is warmer,
which will be
> soon, I hope. My leg, close to my knee, still feels achy much of
the time. I'm
> wondering if I will be able to do the hills around where I live
without the
> same pain as before.
>     After the surgery I had PT and I've been going  to a gym to
strengthen my
> muscles. I did ride some over last summer, but not  hills, usually
only
> fairly flat ground from 12 to 25 miles at a time a few days  a week
at the most.
> I
> always stretch. At first I iced after every workout. Now,  I'll
probably start
> out icing after I do a strenuous workout on my "real" bike.  Since
the cooler
> weather I've been using the semi-recumbent bicycle at the  gym.
>     I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but I'm feeling  unsure of what
the
> actual outcome will be when I get on my bike again. Think
carefully about
> choosing
> surgery, and try all other options first.
> Good luck.
> Cheryl
>
>
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I have been struggling with ITBS for over a year now, and basically can't run
at all without pain in my knee, shin splint-like numbness that sometimes goes
into my toes, and basically feeling miserable.

I am trying deep tissue massage, and may also try active release therapy if
the massage helps at all.


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Would doing hard, deep tissue massage over the scar be dangerous??

--- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, jupton5@... wrote:
>
> I have been struggling with ITBS for over a year now, and basically
can't run
> at all without pain in my knee, shin splint-like numbness that
sometimes goes
> into my toes, and basically feeling miserable.
>
> I am trying deep tissue massage, and may also try active release
therapy if
> the massage helps at all.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

So I'm new to the group and everything I'll ask has been answered 100's of
times before.  Sorry about that.  Anyway I'm glad that I found this forum.

Alittle background on the legs/knees.  I've always had knee issues.  Repeted
injuries, etc.  Lots of rehab and the like.  Surgery on the right knee
exactly two years ago.  This is a knee issue and not an itbs issue on the
right side.  However, (why is it there is always a however?) the left
knee/leg is quite the problem for me now.  Through reading I'd pretty much
self-diagonised itbs.  But after about 3 days is severe pain I went to see
the family physician.  He did a very through examination of both knees/legs.
   His conclusion was the same as mine.  However he said the left knee isn't
in good shape and its a matter of time before it needs surgery.  (I knew
that but didn't want to admit to it.)  He also conclued the right knee is
already is bad shape and much looser that he is comfortable with.  His
advise was to not go to the ortho doctor until I am ready to do something to
either side.  He advised heating pad at night in bed, or during the day and
whatever I felt like.  When I asked for something for pain he then was
concerned because I simeply don't give into pain.  He prescribed Lodine when
needed.  I have severe condramaliacia in right knee and moderate in left
knee.

So much for background.  I've recently lost a significant amount of weight.
Since loosing the weight the knees/legs are bad.  Why is that?  And yes I
walk or exercise bike daily but was doing that with the weight on. Any
thoughts on what to do differently?

Maybe someone will have a better idea as to what I need to do.  Sometimes
the pain is awful but if I sit it gets worse and so I simple work though it
by moving constantly.  Is that good or bad?

Thanks for listening and I look forward to some impute on what to expect and
precede.

I just got back into the conversation here...what you are saying
Debbie is exactly what I've experienced - when I ski, my hip and IT
band begin to feel better - and a tight IT band has actually
negatively affected my skiing in the past until I realized how all
of this fits together.  It was so tight I could not drop my right
hip at all so I could get on edge and turn to the right.  With the
help of a truly phenomenal ski instructor, I did some exercises
right on slope to get the feel of stretching that hip and I felt
BETTER at the end of the day!  No sore knees either!

But now its bicycling and hiking season and it all the stretching
and exercising starts over.





--- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, "Debbie Laxague" <dlaxague@...> wrote:
>
>   I think it's interesting that skiers and ice skating racers are
not found
> here -- mainly bicyclists and runners.
>
> I think that you're implying that skiers aren't found here because
skiing
> develops the quads more equally?  My experience is that skiing
(x/c skate
> skiing, specifically) does not bother my ITBS at all, and I think
it's
> simply the leg position - never fully extending the leg, always
somewhat
> hunched.  The first few winters, I thought that skiing had in fact
cured the
> ITBS because it doesn't bother me all winter, but it returns
immediately and
> as bad or worse as soon as the snow melts and I begin hiking
again.
>
> Debbie Laxague
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

But now its bicycling and hiking season and it all the stretching
and exercising starts over.

So, does everyone find that stretching helps?  I have done various stretches
and gained flexibility - the tightness at the outside of my hip has
loosened.  But if anything, my ITBS is more cranky.  Quad stretching can
help get me a few more hundred feet down the trail with less pain, once the
ITBS begins to hurt, but overall the various stretches are not improving the
ITBS.  It kicks in at the same point on the same trail as always.  I am not
a runner.  ITBS bothers me on hikes, specifically on medium (not steep, not
flat) downhills, although if I walk far enough on the flat it will bother me
eventually.  It never troubles me on steep downhill (like with skate skiing,
I think it's because the leg never straightens fully in that situation).  So
I will hike my steep hills up and down and be fine, but I'm missing some of
my favorite spring hikes, afraid to venture too far on those medium grades
and be caught by pain long before I'm back to the start.

On my ITBS side, I've always had hip issues.  Could not, for example, ever
in my life (even as a child) sit indian-style or lotus because the one side
was too tight to open the bent leg.  But that's the opposite of a tight IT
band, right?  After 5 years of gentle but persistent yoga, I've gotten that
side to almost match the other in extension (? - opening) of the bent leg at
the hip - slow but big change there.  Is it coincidence or cause that over
that same time period of increasing hip flexibility, the ITBS has begun, and
worsened?

Still trying to figure it out.  Advice, experience, tips welcome.

Debbie




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For some reason the skating motion tends to tighten the IT band.  When I
get it I take a week off and use a foam roller and self massage in a hot
tub.  I only go toward the knee, never the other way, but I also use
smal motions perpendicular to the direction of the band all up and down
my thigh.   I'm a once or twice a year ITBS sufferer, almost every
spring and some years during the summer, though so mine may not be as
bad as yours, it does stop me in my tracks and I have to walk home.

Kuan


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From: itbs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:itbs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Debbie Laxague
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 8:25 PM
To: itbs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [itbs] Re: ITBS Concerning Hip?



But now its bicycling and hiking season and it all the stretching
and exercising starts over.

So, does everyone find that stretching helps?  I have done various
stretches
and gained flexibility - the tightness at the outside of my hip has
loosened.  But if anything, my ITBS is more cranky.  Quad stretching can
help get me a few more hundred feet down the trail with less pain, once
the
ITBS begins to hurt, but overall the various stretches are not improving
the
ITBS.  It kicks in at the same point on the same trail as always.  I am
not
a runner.  ITBS bothers me on hikes, specifically on medium (not steep,
not
flat) downhills, although if I walk far enough on the flat it will
bother me
eventually.  It never troubles me on steep downhill (like with skate
skiing,
I think it's because the leg never straightens fully in that situation).
So
I will hike my steep hills up and down and be fine, but I'm missing some
of
my favorite spring hikes, afraid to venture too far on those medium
grades
and be caught by pain long before I'm back to the start.

On my ITBS side, I've always had hip issues.  Could not, for example,
ever
in my life (even as a child) sit indian-style or lotus because the one
side
was too tight to open the bent leg.  But that's the opposite of a tight
IT
band, right?  After 5 years of gentle but persistent yoga, I've gotten
that
side to almost match the other in extension (? - opening) of the bent
leg at
the hip - slow but big change there.  Is it coincidence or cause that
over
that same time period of increasing hip flexibility, the ITBS has begun,
and
worsened?

Still trying to figure it out.  Advice, experience, tips welcome.

Debbie




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>Kuan said:  For some reason the skating motion tends to tighten the IT
band.

Hmm.  Okay, sherlock.  Maybe I'm blaming the wrong new activity.  The same
five years I've spent loosening the hip to be able to sit almost lotus style
in yoga have also included a new and intensifying interest in skate skiing.
And the ITBS tends to be the worst in the spring when I first begin hiking
again (after a winter of skate skiing).  Regular diagonal stride x/c skiing
( I now call it plodding) did not have this effect.  It doesn't seem like
skate skiing would tighten the IT band itself but I can see how it might
over-strengthen the tfl in relation to the glutes, which would have the same
result.  At least that's the theory I'm going to try working with for
awhile, as simple stretching doesn't seem to be it for me.

It's confusing to look around the internet and see so many conflicting
statements regarding ITBS.  It's simply a tight band.  No, it's excessive
pronation. No, not that - it's muscle strength imbalance.  Or not.
Stretching will fix it.  No, the roller is the answer.  Nope, Patt strap.
Nothing worked but surgery.  Or strengthening.

What this tells me is that it's not the same cause for every person bothered
by ITBS and we have to sample from the cafeteria of choices and hope that
one of the choices works for us.  I wish that we didn't have this problem
but I'm glad that we do have it now, in the era of the internet, because 20
years ago, we'd have been stuck with what our local therapist knew (or
didn't know).

Regards,
Debbie


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Hi Debbie, I now see a Sports Injury specialist who is also a
chiropractor.  He does the Graston Technique on my IT band, which
basically is taking a metal rod with massage oil and rubbing it up
and down my IT band.  It breaks up the scar tissue and knots and
lengthens the muscles and tendons.  What happens is you get red dots
that appear where the tissue has been broken up and the next day I
am quite sore.  I was extremely sore the first few treatments - like
needed Advil sore.  Until I had this type of treatment, no ammount
of stretching did any good at all.  I think its because the scar
tissue and knots would just undo anything that stretching
accomplished right away or it would not allow the muscles and
tendons to release to begin with.  Now, I can do IT band stretches
anywhere and it is making a difference.  Yoga is making a difference
now as well.  Before I could stretch till I was purple and it did no
good.

I've had him work on my hip flexors, arch in my right foot (I have a
leg length discrepancy which is the cause of all this crap) and cast
me for orthotics.


The other thing that works wonders for me is that IT band roller.  I
bought the PVC pipe covered in foam.  It was about $35 from Perform
Better.  It takes some getting used to and you need to learn how to
use your body weight and strength to achieve the correct massage
strength - sometimes you are too sore and have to lift yourself of a
little.  But this is great for the IT band, glutes, hipflexors,
back, etc.  It just takes a little technique.

I don't know if this helps or not but I just went out hiking (light,
not steep) for an hour and a half and I didn't feel a thing.  This
would not have been the case a year ago, I'd have felt extreme
tightness in my hip and IT band within an hour.

Debbie Wrote:
> So, does everyone find that stretching helps?  I have done various
stretches
> and gained flexibility - the tightness at the outside of my hip has
> loosened.  But if anything, my ITBS is more cranky.  Quad
stretching can
> help get me a few more hundred feet down the trail with less pain,
once the
> ITBS begins to hurt, but overall the various stretches are not
improving the
> ITBS.  It kicks in at the same point on the same trail as always.
I am not
> a runner.  ITBS bothers me on hikes, specifically on medium (not
steep, not
> flat) downhills, although if I walk far enough on the flat it will
bother me
> eventually.  It never troubles me on steep downhill (like with
skate skiing,
> I think it's because the leg never straightens fully in that
situation).  So
> I will hike my steep hills up and down and be fine, but I'm
missing some of
> my favorite spring hikes, afraid to venture too far on those
medium grades
> and be caught by pain long before I'm back to the start.
>
> On my ITBS side, I've always had hip issues.  Could not, for
example, ever
> in my life (even as a child) sit indian-style or lotus because the
one side
> was too tight to open the bent leg.  But that's the opposite of a
tight IT
> band, right?  After 5 years of gentle but persistent yoga, I've
gotten that
> side to almost match the other in extension (? - opening) of the
bent leg at
> the hip - slow but big change there.  Is it coincidence or cause
that over
> that same time period of increasing hip flexibility, the ITBS has
begun, and
> worsened?
>
> Still trying to figure it out.  Advice, experience, tips welcome.
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

"What this tells me is that it's not the same cause for every person
bothered
> by ITBS and we have to sample from the cafeteria of choices and hope
that
> one of the choices works for us.  I wish that we didn't have this
problem
> but I'm glad that we do have it now, in the era of the internet,
because 20
> years ago, we'd have been stuck with what our local therapist knew
(or didn't know)"

So true!  I've felt the same way.  I've had several DC's and one
podiatrist tell me they are surprised I have these problems in my
right side and not my left, makes no sense to them because my right
leg is the short one and supposedly the longer leg is the one that
most people have ITBS in.  Oh well.  Have to just keep going forward
and trying new things I guess.

Hi all,

I wrote in a few weeks ago with ITBS-like symptoms wondering if they
coincided with what other people had experienced.  I just wanted to follow
up with what has happened since then.

The chiropractor I use practices neuro-muscular reeduction (find
practicioners here: http://www.nmrseminars.com/) and when I went into see
her about my knee pain (which had been very sporadic:  it would hurt at one
point and then 5 minutes later not at all), she worked on my leg and found
that my fibula, particularly at the proximal tibiofibular joint (the place
just below the knee where the tibia and fibula meet), didn't have as much
movement as she expected it to, and far less movement than my non-injured
leg.  She worked on it for a few minutes and did some adjustments and when
she went to test its movement again even I could feel a big difference.  I
have run once since the adjustment and haven't had any knee pain.  After
doing some internet research about the proximal tibiofibular joint and knee
pain it seems that this is a possible knee problem that is often overlooked
and that has similar symptoms to ITBS.  Anyway, I just thought I would post
my experience here, another possible avenue to look into.  Hopefully I can
continue to run without knee pain...

Here are a couple of links about the tibiofibular joint and associated knee
pain:
http://www.ptupdate.com/FreeSection/Art23.htm
http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/11/13/10.html

thanks,
Emma


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How much does avarge ART cost? I saw prices close to 800 on their
site...that's expensive but would be worth it for getting rid off this
terrible ITB..how many sessions do you get for that price? I live In
Philadelphia can someone recommend an ART center near by? Is there
anyone out there who was not helped by ART or who had things get worse?

I posted a while ago about my fight with ITBS and long distance
cycling.  I was visiting a PT and the hip strengthening exercises and
stretches he recommended seemed to be working.  However, on the 19th
of April, I was trying out some recommended exercises using the lying
leg curl nmachine and I felt a popping in the ITBS-afflicted leg.
Since then it seems that the pain is worse than ever - I'm feeling it
even on short rides.

Any thoughts?  I've just bought a foam roller in the hope that adding
it to my ITBS exercises will help.

Have you ever had a massage?  If not, it definitely helps.  I would stay away
from the machine that gave you the pain.   Stretching is so important, before
and after the run and icing as much as possible.

Bravewolf <bravewolf_ca@...> wrote:  I posted a while ago about my fight
with ITBS and long distance
cycling.  I was visiting a PT and the hip strengthening exercises and
stretches he recommended seemed to be working.  However, on the 19th
of April, I was trying out some recommended exercises using the lying
leg curl nmachine and I felt a popping in the ITBS-afflicted leg.
Since then it seems that the pain is worse than ever - I'm feeling it
even on short rides.

Any thoughts?  I've just bought a foam roller in the hope that adding
it to my ITBS exercises will help.





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I cannot stress how important massage is with ITBS!
The knots in my muscles got progressively worse
(making my ITBS worse) but things have gotten a lot
better with both ART and self-massage.  Foam roller
for the side of the leg and butt (knots in the
piriformis) and use a tennis ball or massage stick for
calves/quads/anywhere you can find a knot.   Get
creative :)

Also, a reminder that doing strengthing exercises can
exacerbate the problem when you have very tight
muscles.  You need to work those knots out...and
stretching alone will not do so.

--- Susan Payne <spayne907@...> wrote:

> Have you ever had a massage?  If not, it definitely
> helps.  I would stay away from the machine that gave
> you the pain.   Stretching is so important, before
> and after the run and icing as much as possible.
>
> Bravewolf <bravewolf_ca@...> wrote:  I posted
> a while ago about my fight with ITBS and long
> distance
> cycling.  I was visiting a PT and the hip
> strengthening exercises and
> stretches he recommended seemed to be working.
> However, on the 19th
> of April, I was trying out some recommended
> exercises using the lying
> leg curl nmachine and I felt a popping in the
> ITBS-afflicted leg.
> Since then it seems that the pain is worse than ever
> - I'm feeling it
> even on short rides.
>
> Any thoughts?  I've just bought a foam roller in the
> hope that adding
> it to my ITBS exercises will help.
>
>
>
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THis is probably a dumb question but where do you get these foam rollers for
massage??
   angie

Marnie <skygazer242@...> wrote:
   I cannot stress how important massage is with ITBS!
The knots in my muscles got progressively worse
(making my ITBS worse) but things have gotten a lot
better with both ART and self-massage.  Foam roller
for the side of the leg and butt (knots in the
piriformis) and use a tennis ball or massage stick for
calves/quads/anywhere you can find a knot.   Get
creative :)

Also, a reminder that doing strengthing exercises can
exacerbate the problem when you have very tight
muscles.  You need to work those knots out...and
stretching alone will not do so.

--- Susan Payne <spayne907@...> wrote:

> Have you ever had a massage?  If not, it definitely
> helps.  I would stay away from the machine that gave
> you the pain.   Stretching is so important, before
> and after the run and icing as much as possible.
>
> Bravewolf <bravewolf_ca@...> wrote:  I posted
> a while ago about my fight with ITBS and long
> distance
> cycling.  I was visiting a PT and the hip
> strengthening exercises and
> stretches he recommended seemed to be working.
> However, on the 19th
> of April, I was trying out some recommended
> exercises using the lying
> leg curl nmachine and I felt a popping in the
> ITBS-afflicted leg.
> Since then it seems that the pain is worse than ever
> - I'm feeling it
> even on short rides.
>
> Any thoughts?  I've just bought a foam roller in the
> hope that adding
> it to my ITBS exercises will help.
>
>
>
>
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You can get them from bodytrends.com.  I've bought heart monitors from
them and they're quite reliable.

I use the ones at my YMCA. The round ones are the ones you want for IT
band myofascial release.  You sorta lay down on it sideways and work the
IT band from hip toward the knee.  My massage therapist told me not to
do it the other way.  Don't remember why.   Works great on your calves
and glutes too.

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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:48 PM
To: itbs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [itbs] Lying leg curl aggravating ITBS?


THis is probably a dumb question but where do you get these foam rollers
for massage??
   angie

Marnie <skygazer242@...> wrote:
   I cannot stress how important massage is with ITBS!
The knots in my muscles got progressively worse
(making my ITBS worse) but things have gotten a lot
better with both ART and self-massage.  Foam roller
for the side of the leg and butt (knots in the
piriformis) and use a tennis ball or massage stick for
calves/quads/anywhere you can find a knot.   Get
creative :)

Also, a reminder that doing strengthing exercises can
exacerbate the problem when you have very tight
muscles.  You need to work those knots out...and
stretching alone will not do so.

--- Susan Payne <spayne907@...> wrote:

> Have you ever had a massage?  If not, it definitely
> helps.  I would stay away from the machine that gave
> you the pain.   Stretching is so important, before
> and after the run and icing as much as possible.
>
> Bravewolf <bravewolf_ca@...> wrote:  I posted
> a while ago about my fight with ITBS and long
> distance
> cycling.  I was visiting a PT and the hip
> strengthening exercises and
> stretches he recommended seemed to be working.
> However, on the 19th
> of April, I was trying out some recommended
> exercises using the lying
> leg curl nmachine and I felt a popping in the
> ITBS-afflicted leg.
> Since then it seems that the pain is worse than ever
> - I'm feeling it
> even on short rides.
>
> Any thoughts?  I've just bought a foam roller in the
> hope that adding
> it to my ITBS exercises will help.
>
>
>
>
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There are quite a few sites on the internet that have
them but if you don't want to buy online, Healthy Back
stores and some cycling stores carry them...as well as
other self-massage tools (I admit, I'm an addict).

--- Kuan <kuanheidi@...> wrote:

> You can get them from bodytrends.com.  I've bought
> heart monitors from
> them and they're quite reliable.
>
> I use the ones at my YMCA. The round ones are the
> ones you want for IT
> band myofascial release.  You sorta lay down on it
> sideways and work the
> IT band from hip toward the knee.  My massage
> therapist told me not to
> do it the other way.  Don't remember why.   Works
> great on your calves
> and glutes too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itbs@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:itbs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Angie Jones
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:48 PM
> To: itbs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [itbs] Lying leg curl aggravating ITBS?
>
>
> THis is probably a dumb question but where do you
> get these foam rollers
> for massage??
>   angie
>
> Marnie <skygazer242@...> wrote:
>   I cannot stress how important massage is with
> ITBS!
> The knots in my muscles got progressively worse
> (making my ITBS worse) but things have gotten a lot
> better with both ART and self-massage.  Foam roller
> for the side of the leg and butt (knots in the
> piriformis) and use a tennis ball or massage stick
> for
> calves/quads/anywhere you can find a knot.   Get
> creative :)
>
> Also, a reminder that doing strengthing exercises
> can
> exacerbate the problem when you have very tight
> muscles.  You need to work those knots out...and
> stretching alone will not do so.
>
> --- Susan Payne <spayne907@...> wrote:
>
> > Have you ever had a massage?  If not, it
> definitely
> > helps.  I would stay away from the machine that
> gave
> > you the pain.   Stretching is so important, before
> > and after the run and icing as much as possible.
> >
> > Bravewolf <bravewolf_ca@...> wrote:  I
> posted
> > a while ago about my fight with ITBS and long
> > distance
> > cycling.  I was visiting a PT and the hip
> > strengthening exercises and
> > stretches he recommended seemed to be working.
> > However, on the 19th
> > of April, I was trying out some recommended
> > exercises using the lying
> > leg curl nmachine and I felt a popping in the
> > ITBS-afflicted leg.
> > Since then it seems that the pain is worse than
> ever
> > - I'm feeling it
> > even on short rides.
> >
> > Any thoughts?  I've just bought a foam roller in
> the
> > hope that adding
> > it to my ITBS exercises will help.
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thanks, looks like a fun website!
   angie

Kuan <kuanheidi@...> wrote:
   You can get them from bodytrends.com.  I've bought heart monitors from
them and they're quite reliable.

I use the ones at my YMCA. The round ones are the ones you want for IT
band myofascial release.  You sorta lay down on it sideways and work the
IT band from hip toward the knee.  My massage therapist told me not to
do it the other way.  Don't remember why.   Works great on your calves
and glutes too.

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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:48 PM
To: itbs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [itbs] Lying leg curl aggravating ITBS?


THis is probably a dumb question but where do you get these foam rollers
for massage??
   angie

Marnie <skygazer242@...> wrote:
   I cannot stress how important massage is with ITBS!
The knots in my muscles got progressively worse
(making my ITBS worse) but things have gotten a lot
better with both ART and self-massage.  Foam roller
for the side of the leg and butt (knots in the
piriformis) and use a tennis ball or massage stick for
calves/quads/anywhere you can find a knot.   Get
creative :)

Also, a reminder that doing strengthing exercises can
exacerbate the problem when you have very tight
muscles.  You need to work those knots out...and
stretching alone will not do so.

--- Susan Payne <spayne907@...> wrote:

> Have you ever had a massage?  If not, it definitely
> helps.  I would stay away from the machine that gave
> you the pain.   Stretching is so important, before
> and after the run and icing as much as possible.
>
> Bravewolf <bravewolf_ca@...> wrote:  I posted
> a while ago about my fight with ITBS and long
> distance
> cycling.  I was visiting a PT and the hip
> strengthening exercises and
> stretches he recommended seemed to be working.
> However, on the 19th
> of April, I was trying out some recommended
> exercises using the lying
> leg curl nmachine and I felt a popping in the
> ITBS-afflicted leg.
> Since then it seems that the pain is worse than ever
> - I'm feeling it
> even on short rides.
>
> Any thoughts?  I've just bought a foam roller in the
> hope that adding
> it to my ITBS exercises will help.
>
>
>
>
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Hi everybody, I'm new to the group. Needed to chat with people who are
experiencing problems with their ITB. Although I know that most common
injuries to the ITB occur from running and cycling and involve the
knee, mine is a little different. I fractured my left femur in 5
places 7 weeks ago while skiing. They put in an IM rod and proximal
and distal screws. I believe that the bone is healing (I go in
tomarrow for a check up) but I am experiencing a popping type pain
that starts around my hip area (where the proximal screws are) and
travels down to my knee. It feels like when I sit down, I am sitting
on a baseball. The pain will subside but it is very painful and
happens when I do certain movements. I was hoping someone out there
has gone through something like this or has read something somewhere.
I need all the information I can get.

John

Hey everyone,
I'm in the need for some advice about ITBS.  I am a 21 year old
female runner who came down with ITB after a twenty mile run
training for my first marathon.  I've done really well in half
marathons and was hoping to BQ at the marathon that I now am unable
to run.  I've rested completely for a month, stretched, iced, bought
a foam roller, gone to massage therapy, taken glucosmaine sulfate
and a prescription anti-inflammatory med. but have gotten minimal
relief.  I saw a chiropractor who realigned my left hip which caused
a leg length descrepancy and that helped relieve the arthritic
feeling in my knee but I'm still in pain when I go up and down
stairs and walk more than 10 minutes.  Lately, iceing seems to
aggravate my symptoms.  Has anyone else experienced this?  Should I
stop icing?  Also, how long does ITBS usually last I've heard
everything from 2 weeks to over 1 year?!?  Any recommendations for
how much/how long I should run for after I return to running?
Sorry, for my list of questions... I'm just extremely frustrated and
confused....I miss running terribly!

Thanks,
Jennifer