Hey Tony,

thank you very much. I will definitely call this doctor.

Nora


--- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, Fleckworld <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Nora,
>
> I have some info for you. I did email them but never got a response
> so I decided to call them today, fortunately they have a toll free #
> and were very helpful. They do have one practitioner in your area.
> Dr. Arne Herbert phone # +31-77-3201919. I firmly believe ART
> helped me get over ITBS. I hope it works for you. Good luck Tony
>
> --- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, "Nora Reich" <nora11@> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, Tony, that is really great!
> > I live in the "state"(or region) called Northrhine-Westphalia.
> Cities are Bonn, Cologne (in German: Köln), Aachen, Dusseldorf.
> >
> > Thank you so much.
> >
> > Nora
> >
> >
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:43:44 -0000
> > Von: Fleckworld <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > An: itbs@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [itbs] Re: Foam roller and strap dont help anymore
> >
> > > --- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, "Nora Reich" <nora11@> wrote:
> > > >Hi Nora,
> > >
> > > I will email them for info if you like and see if I have better
> > > luck. I would need to know what area or region of Germany you
> want
> > > me to relay to them. Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thank you, Tony.
> > > > I checked out activerelease.com and try to search for
> providers in
> > > Germany. But I tried so many cities and did not get a result.
> Then I
> > > emailed to activerelease to ask if they can give me a list of
> German
> > > providers, and my email returned with an automatic reply, that
> it
> > > was not accepted because it could be a spam. Then I re-wrote it
> and
> > > again it was sent back to me.
> > > > So no help from this site.
> > > >
> > > > I will call some chiropractors (don't know the right word in
> > > engl.) in my city and ask if they know someone. But when I
> googled
> > > active release for German pages I did not get helpful results.
> > > > Or I have to find out the German word for it.
> > > >
> > > > Nora
> > > >
> > > > PS: Do you wear the itbs strap when swimming?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > > Datum: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:54:31 -0000
> > > > Von: Fleckworld <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > An: itbs@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Betreff: [itbs] Re: Foam roller and strap dont help anymore
> > > >
> > > > > Nora,
> > > > >
> > > > > Check out the website activerelease.com, I was just there
> and
> > > they
> > > > > have a search option for providers and Germany is included.
> > > This
> > > > > may be your answer. Lots of luck.... Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, "nhmreich" <nora11@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem is, I live in Germany, and I have not found
> out
> > > yet
> > > > > what active release therapy
> > > > > > is in German and whether I can get it somewhere here. But
> I
> > > will
> > > > > try to find out.
> > > > > > I have the feeling "just time" does not help, because the
> > > > > remaining pain has been stable
> > > > > > for so long. I think I need to do something to release my
> it
> > > band
> > > > > more. But without a
> > > > > > prescription for physical therapy - what should I do?
> Except
> > > for
> > > > > keeping rolling...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nora
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, Fleckworld <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Nora,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You should find a Dr. who does ART (Active Release
> > > Technique),
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > chiropracter does it thats how I found it. It took 2-3
> > > months
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > he was finally able to loosen the itb up. It is very
> > > aggressive
> > > > > > > stretching and hurts a bit but I know it worked for me.
> You
> > > > > have to
> > > > > > > find what your itb will respond to. I also tried
> > > stretching,
> > > > > PT,
> > > > > > > drugs and nothing worked too well. There was also a
> stretch
> > > I
> > > > > found
> > > > > > > at a Rice univ website that to me stretched the itb the
> > > best. I
> > > > > > > couldnt attach it here but I belive this is the address:
> > > > > > > www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/itband.V2.html. This is an
> > > insidious
> > > > > > > malady but you just have to keep working at it. I didnt
> run
> > > at
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > for 6 mos. and after finally loosening up the itb and
> > > gradual
> > > > > > > increases in mileage I am now back running and running
> > > hard.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > one thing I changed in my training is I now religously
> > > stretch
> > > > > 3x
> > > > > > > per week for about 45 minutes, I never used to stretch
> much
> > > but
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > 52 I now have to I guess. Lots of luck and hang in.
> Tony
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In itbs@yahoogroups.com, "nhmreich" <nora11@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A few weeks ago I ordered a foam roller and an itbs
> strap.
> > > I
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > the roller every day (1-3
> > > > > > > > times) and I wear the strap when I walk or ride the
> bike.
> > > I
> > > > > also
> > > > > > > have physical therapy, but
> > > > > > > > today will be the last appointment, and my doctor said
> he
> > > does
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > prescribe me any more
> > > > > > > > pt.
> > > > > > > > With the roller my itbs got better, but there is some
> > > resedual
> > > > > > > pain. I have the feeling that
> > > > > > > > neither the roller nor the strap nor the pt nor
> > > aquajogging
> > > > > can do
> > > > > > > something about it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What else can I do?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hoping for suggestions
> > > > > > > > Nora
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PS: of course I stretch a little every day.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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