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so who's got boots and can play next week?   Message List  
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Re: [irishrugby] Re: so who's got boots and can play next week?

The ref is still poor bur better than last 2 tests. The BeAst still
allowed to drive in at an angle. Much better All around- I think a
full Irish team would whip these boys !!!

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On 04/07/2009, at 3:04, "Donal" <obriaind@...> wrote:

>
>
> November in Croker will be interesting. Will the Boks send a full
> strength team north? No excuses not to. If they do, the likes of
> Ferris, Flannery, O'Leary, Rory Best will feel they have as much to
> prove as BOD, POC, and the other lads who played in the tests.
>
> --- In irishrugby@yahoogroups.com, <patrick.mccutcheon@...> wrote:
> >
> > On the basis of the first two test, a full strength Ireland could
> - though not necessarily would beat the Boks. we have beaten the
> Boks in the recent past and could do nso again. whether we actually
> do depends on refereeing decisions and whether we are able to boss
> them.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: irishrugby@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:irishrugby@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Tomas Corcoran
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:10 AM
> > To: irishrugby@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [irishrugby] so who's got boots and can play next week?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So, now that this tour is dead- two questions.
> >
> > How many think that a full strength Ireland would beat the boks
> >
> > When will Kidney get a shot at the Lions ?
> >
> > T
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 01/07/2009, at 11:33, "Myles Byrne" <mbyrne@... <mailto:mbyrne
> %40cbmprojects.com> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I can't see that happening to be honest. Shaw and Croft will
> start, in
> > > Shaw's case it's now understandable and correct but DOC should
> be on
> > > the
> > > bench. Croft's inclusion in the second test was because McG didn't
> > > have
> > > the balls to drop him, he hasn't grown a pair in the last week so
> > > Croft
> > > will start again.
> > >
> > > Darcy and Roberts would be my center pairing too, if Roberts
> doesn't
> > > make it , then Bowe and Darcy.
> > >
> > > From: irishrugby@yahoogroups.com <mailto:irishrugby
> %40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:irishrugby@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:irishrugby%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > > On
> > > Behalf Of jehjr112@... <mailto:jehjr112%40aol.com>
> > > Sent: June-30-09 7:32 PM
> > > To: irishrugby@yahoogroups.com <mailto:irishrugby
> %40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [irishrugby] so who's got boots and can play next
> week?
> > >
> > > Nobody said that Shaw walked on water. I think the consensus was
> > > only he
> > > was the right selection in a tricky situation. If anything, I
> would
> > > simply say Shaw played to his limits or beyond his limitations.
> > > Do I believe he can do it once again? Yes? Do I think he will be
> > > selected? No.
> > > I think that you may get your wish with DOC.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard Powell <RichardPowell@... <mailto:RichardPowell
> %40shaw.ca>
> > > <mailto:RichardPowell%40shaw.ca> >
> > > To: irishrugby@yahoogroups.com <mailto:irishrugby
> %40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:irishrugby%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2009 9:26 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [irishrugby] so who's got boots and can play next
> week?
> > >
> > > I think it would be very unwise to risk Vickery after the Beast
> ate
> > > him
> > > for dinner in their last encounter - especially considering that
> the
> > > same officiating group will be involved yet again - albeit with
> > > Dickinson (he of the bizarre decisions anyway) as the man in the
> > > middle.
> > > I think the Bull stands a real chance of being on the bench. I'd
> also
> > > expect POC to be back on the bench after the (non) appearance of
> AWJ
> > > on
> > > Saturday. That was a bizarre substitution by McGeechan at a time
> when
> > > Martyn Williams could surely have been more valuable. McGeechan
> > > compounded that error by bringing on MW for Wallace when surely
> the
> > > man
> > > to go should have been Croft, marked 'as lathair' (that's 'absent'
> > > Stu)
> > > yet again when the going got tough.
> > > The subs bench last week was all wrong and I expect it will be a
> > > case of
> > > 'who's got boots?' indeed Stu.
> > > I hope the centre partnership is NOT Flutey and anyone. because
> his
> > > two
> > > more recent appearances have been characterized by selfish,
> > > visionless,
> > > ball-hogging charges into oblivion, denying his partners any
> > > opportunity
> > > to contribute or to improve the overall team performances.
> > > I hope Roberts plays and I'd be more inclined to put D'Arcy with
> him,
> > > keeping in mind his was a fairly limited performance last day
> also. A
> > > bolter for that position might be Earls.
> > > I have no doubt we will see Flutey, Shane Williams yet again, and
> > > Vickery in some capacity proving beyond a reasonable doubt that
> McG,
> > > Gatland and Edwards are simply out of touch with the talent at
> their
> > > disposal and the means whereby it should be deployed. They've
> bottled
> > > their selections thus far - and I am ONE who does not think Shaw
> > > walked
> > > on water at all last week, so maybe I'm the one who is out of
> touch.
> > > My team:
> > > Sheridan, Mears (only because he can throw past the #2 jumper),
> Bull,
> > > POC, DOC
> > > Williams, Wally, Heaslip
> > > Philips (sadly nobody else), Jones, Roberts, D'Arcy, Fitzy, Bowe,
> > > Kearney
> > > Subs, Rees/Ford not much difference, Payne, Hines, Worsley, Hook,
> > > Earls,
> > > Ellis.
> > > That's the way I see it.
> > > However, I expect to see: Sheridan, Rees, Vickery, Shaw, POC,
> Croft,
> > > Williams, Heaslip, Phillips, Jones, Roberts, Flutey, Fitz, Bowe,
> > > Kearney; subs Vickery, Ford, AWJ/Hines, Wallace, Hook, Williams,
> > > Ellis.
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: STUART FLINT
> > > To: irishrugby@yahoogroups.com <mailto:irishrugby
> %40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:irishrugby%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:32 PM
> > > Subject: [irishrugby] so who's got boots and can play next week?
> > >
> > > With the injuries to key players (Jenkin's, Adam Jones, Roberts
> and
> > > BOD
> > > in particular) there's a lot of doom and gloom about what sort
> of a
> > > team
> > > are the Lions going to be able to field... But
> > >
> > > Front Row:
> > > Sheridan played well when on as a replacement on Saturday so he'll
> > > have
> > > the number 1 shirt. Rees played well too and should get the nod
> again.
> > > The big question is at tighthead, who's left - Vickery or Hayes?
> Tough
> > > one.
> > >
> > > Second Row:
> > > Shaw and POC to start again. No matter if you agreed with the
> > > selection
> > > or not Shaw put in a fantastic performance.
> > >
> > > Back Row:
> > > Same again. Probably be a question over Wallace / Williams or both
> > > (dropping Croft to the bench), but on balance i'd stick with the
> same.
> > >
> > > Half Backs:
> > > Same again.
> > >
> > > Centres:
> > > This is the ticky one. BOD is definately out, possibly Roberts
> too. If
> > > Roberts is fit it'll be him + 1 (i'd go for D'Arcy or James Hook)
> > > but i
> > > suspect the selectors will plump for Flutey. If Roberts is out
> then
> > > I'd
> > > go for Hook at 12 and D'Arcy at 13.
> > >
> > > Wings:
> > > Bowe and Fitz.
> > >
> > > Full Back:
> > > Kearney.
> > >
> > > The bench will be considerably weaker so better hope for fewer
> > > injuries
> > > this week, but altogether not a bad team.
> > >
> > > -----------------------------
> > > Stuart Flint
> > >
> > > tel +44 (0) 7917 847059
> > > e-mail stuart_flint@... <mailto:stuart_flint%40btinternet.com>
> > > <mailto:stuart_flint%40btinternet.com>
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With the injuries to key players (Jenkin's, Adam Jones, Roberts and BOD in particular) there's a lot of doom and gloom about what sort of a team are the Lions...
STUART FLINT
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I think it would be very unwise to risk Vickery after the Beast ate him for dinner in their last encounter - especially considering that the same officiating...
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Nobody said that Shaw walked on water. I think the consensus was only he was the right selection in a tricky situation. If anything, I would simply say Shaw...
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I can't see that happening to be honest. Shaw and Croft will start, in Shaw's case it's now understandable and correct but DOC should be on the bench. Croft's...
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So, now that this tour is dead- two questions. How many think that a full strength Ireland would beat the boks When will Kidney get a shot at the Lions ? T ...
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I have to be honest that I'm not a huge fan of the Lions concept partly because I'm selfish and think that the Lions doesn't bring anything positive to the...
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Hi Colin i strongly disagree with that.  I think this Lions tour has been a hugely positive experience for all those involved, BOD has said that he really...
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I expect that Colin has been reading Planet Rugby forums again ☺ Nonetheless it is a serious point that Ireland as a team might benefit more from touring on...
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... He sneaked back in some time during the 6N and is showing no signs of going away again... The Lions haven't done anything bad to Ireland this time around....
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I think I might have been after doing the unforgivable...reading a Stephen Jones article. Fair play to the guys yesterday. I only got to see the game earlier ...
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Jones is fantastically one-eyed again today. The man is a moron, no more about it. To: irishrugby@yahoogroups.com From: colin.burkley@... Date: Sun, 5...
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I'd fairly much agree with you, Colin. There is little doubt that guys like Earls, Kearney and Fitgerald will have picked up an awful lot from the older...
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After my earlier mail i came across an article by Keith Wood in the telegraph this morning, link (i'm not sure if you need to be registered) and full article...
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Let’s be a little more careful about what we say. There’s scope for offence whether intended or otherwise and there have been a couple of posts today that...
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Thomas, in answer to your questions, No and Yes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Ireland will have a more coherent defensive strategy, quicker distribution from the base of scrum, ruck and maul; a more flexible and versatile lineout and at...
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On the basis of the first two test, a full strength Ireland could - though not necessarily would beat the Boks. we have beaten the Boks in the recent past and...
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November in Croker will be interesting. Will the Boks send a full strength team north? No excuses not to. If they do, the likes of Ferris, Flannery, O'Leary,...
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The ref is still poor bur better than last 2 tests. The BeAst still allowed to drive in at an angle. Much better All around- I think a full Irish team would...
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Aglimpse of what might have been had we fronted up in the first Two tests. The Boks are filthy without the ball and poor going backwards Oh well - maybe longer...
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The move last week should have been to bring Williams on and put Wally into the centre. Putting Rog in that position was never going to work. Accident waiting...
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That should have read 'bring Martin Williams on'. ________________________________ From: irishrugby@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Brendan McNamara Sent: Mon...
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