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End of another 6N

Now after the Twickenham turf has been watered by copious champagne and
the Alaister Campbell-style spinning is slowly subsiding we can take
stock of the season. Most of the teams were woeful most of the time.
Ireland struggled to put away Italy, bottled up Scotland but couldn't
score any points, overwhelmed a Welsh rabble but underwhelmed most
spectators and pulled off the biggest heist in England since Tonbridge.
We are left with a propping situation which is only equalled by
Australia, an inability to deal with restarts from either direction, an
unbalanced back-row, a one-dimensional scrum-half and a back line that
cannot align itself and wants to crab laterally towards the stands at
all costs. If anything we have not progressed, our continued success is
because everyone else has regressed.

The memories of yesterday are of the disputed tries and the post-match
celebrations. I will forgive Dickinson the touchline debacle, it was a
difficult call and he owes irish teams something. Leamy (best Irish
player on the pitch) controlled the ball far better than it appeared at
first and BOD may have been ahead of the kicker but then so was Fritz I
suspect for the winning French try. What was disturbing was that Horgan
was given a head start on Moody but was caught easily before the line.
Easterby's sending off confirmed my suspicion that the copious work he
does that goes unnoticed by us also goes unnoticed by the majority of
the opposition. The resulting sole score during this ten minute period,
JOC's indiscretion was courtesy of Whitehouse's usual standard of
referreeing "ball out - tackle situation" then "coming in from the
side".

The post-match celebrations were most memorable for the somewhat
strange sight of EOS wresting the salver from the team and spending a
protracted period waving it at the Irish supporters. It summed up what
I thought this campaign had been all about - the cementing of his
position and his personal vindication. Michael asked some time ago what
constituted success for Ireland, personally winning the triple crown
and defeating the English at Twickenham no longer do it for me. Yes, it
makes my life more enjoyable as I go to work with my England supporting
colleagues but as a concept it has more to do with life pre1990 than
2006. When the triple crown concept was born there were four teams and
it meant a grandslam. It continued to have some meaning in the true
amateur days when I started watching. What I would like is at least one
championship and a semifinal spot at the World Cup and that will
necessitate turning over one or more from France, England, SA,
Australia and New Zealand. We are probably no closer that goal than we
were when Gatland was in charge.

When Tomas and I amongst others seem hypercritical it is not because we
are curmudgeonly or intemperate, rather we fear that moderate success
attained by underachievement from the most talented squad in twenty
years and possibly fifty will be used, as previously, to paper over the
cracks and replace our red, white and blue (interestingly not green)
spectacles with a rosier hue. The performance of the A team is a major
cause for hope if not those of the underage teams. So if we all
celebrate now well and good but lets not engage in the Indo style of
criticism where individual player scores have 3 added to them because
we have pulled off a victory. A medium-sized fish in a big pond is
better than small but how much better to be big and this squad with two
to three additions have the ability to pull off consistent victories
against the big five and make it the big six. By the way I quite liked
the carved lump of coal that was produced by a welsh miner, it seemed
to sum up the true nature of the amateur triple crown when you could
have the crap beaten out of you by any one of a postman, missionary,
solicitor, doctor, optician, accountant or clergyman of any hue.

Andrew




Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:48 pm

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Game still on but all the old failings present to see NO self-belief NO plan B In fact- No plan A And most of all , we have beaten all of these English players...
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Unfortunately this result will be used by EOS to justify his tactics- we have aspired to be mediocre and have over-achieved in this department. We should have...
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it's funny but not one of those tries should have counted. 1: in touch...eng lineout 2: leamy knocks it forward it then touches moody's hand before leamy ...
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I'll celebrate the here and now Tomas but the lack of leadership, the dismal execution by O'Driscoll and Murphy, the folly of having inappropriate cover on the...
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Now after the Twickenham turf has been watered by copious champagne and the Alaister Campbell-style spinning is slowly subsiding we can take stock of the...
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Great post Andrew! You beat me to the punch wrt Leamy, I had said to several people during the game that he was outstanding and should have been awarded MOM....
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Myles, about your 4 players, I agree with you on Murphy and O'Connor. Dempsey and Gleeson are doing all the things they're good at, but doing them better for...
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Let's get the yellow card thing in perspective. DOC was involved in a scuffle with White at a time when the English pack was bullying the Irish pack. Yes he...
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Have a look at how much work G DArcy did and you have not even given him a mention. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Myles, about your 4 players, ... To be honest and I know you won't agree with me on this, but last Saturday's game was precisely the style of game that Gleeson...
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