Thank you for you comments Moontyger. I was shamed to see
dishonorable words forced upon you that were ment for me. I hope that
any other outburst of emotion will be directed to me by email off the
site to my email same name @yahoo.com. I do not think anyone joined
to pass harsh words or undiserved judgements.

Ancient master where not known only for there martial arts they were
also great thinkers and philosophers and kept informed of the world
around them so when they were not training,recovering from training
(meditation), working to pay some kind of empiral tax, they would
train there minds. What good is all that energy and movement without
purpose and imagination to utilze it.

Just as they would not turn down a good sparring match, they would
not turn down as good friendly debate or others notions to ponder.